Originally Posted by TBaggins
But some ppl took it further, and were saying things like there was no point to 3G, EDGE was nearly as fast, EDGE has way better latency (not true, btw), etc. etc. Obviously, they were quite wrong about it.
I must admit, I thought the latency was higher on UMTS than GSM. As for the "no point in 3G", many remarks, including mine, were appending with the qualifier "...until AT&T gets a respectable 3G network up and running." Something they have done swimmingly over this past year.
I'm just wondering if it can video-record now. Oh, and MMS?
I see no reaspn why this can't be done via a 3rd-party app as it's all software.
Originally Posted by BlueLaw
\tTheyre selling it as the phone of speed. But youre still not going to able to download a song from the iTunes store via 3G. Why is that? Is it legal red tape? Because its making Apple look stupid.
There is some truth to that comment as downloading music over the carrier's network, which is something they also sell, may violate some agreement somewhere. You can google an article or two about it.
If you really want to do it there are currently simple hacks to trick the iPhone into thinking you are on a network. Jut use the direct IP address of your EDGE network and the iTunes STore app will function.
\tWhy isnt there a file manager so I can save all the PDFs and .jpegs I receive in the mail. What is Apple afraid of, that the filing cabinet wont look Gay Chic?
Did they not mention a way of saving pictures from emails and a Library for storing and viewing all sorts of files like .DOC, .XLS, etc.?
Originally Posted by mrjoec123
Well, it's likely to go up because of the 3G speed. This is a given, though. This is not Apple doing something dastardly to its customers. If you get a 3G Blackberry, you're going to pay more for 3G, too.
I haven't been able to figure out a formula, but it might not go up. Remember that iPhone users are required to get the data plan, even if they use the non-contractual GoPhone plan, while other phones have it as an option. This means that high data usage people will ferintiely buy in on other phones, and those not as likely probably won't. Also, since the iPhone has WiFi which is faster and uses less power, people will use that whenever possible, and WiFI hotspots are growing, and I'm certain AT&T will offer it to iPhones for free again. Anyway, we shall see if this balances out the cost difference.
Funny, how all of a sudden people want to talk about the "life of the contract" instead of the upfront costs. I remember some people getting shot down last year when they rightly pointed out that most $99 Windows mobile devices are actually more expensive than an iPhone over the life of the contract.
I'm not following, both your sentences pose the same side of the argument. Since Balmer's assertion that nobody is going to pay that much for a phone we've had comparisons of rate plans showing the iPhone is actually cheaper over 2 years.
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
Probably only answerable next month.
I'm pretty sure it has the same 620MHz ARM11 CPU that was reported last week. Probably the same amount of RAM, too, though I hope it's more.
Originally Posted by merdhead
3G isn't going to cost the phone companies much more than 2G. 3G has more capacity and lower cost per byte, which already has a marginal cost very close to zero.
Considering the billions AT&T has put into HSDPA this year alone, we are going to need some facts and figures.
Apple will lose money on a non-activated $100 phone, and with the level of unlocking they will lose lots of money. Either they will make locking unbreakable (difficult but ultimately possible) or they will abandon non-activation.
With 70 countries coming on board this year there won't be the international grey market sales were saw this past year. There also won't be any iPhones on Sprint or Verizon, for obvious reasons, and anyone on T-Mobile that wants to use a 3G iPhone will have to abandon T-Mobile to do it. There will be some that will prefer to stay on T-Mobile with an EDGE phone, but I think 3G is a much more powerful draw than deciding which carrier you hate the least.