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Originally Posted by macFanDave View Post

Er, actually he has two. A Bachelor's degree in God-knows-what from Yale and an MBA from Harvard. I guess that extree book-larnin' gives Dubya what he need to bring dat dang-good presidentin' for all dese nigh-on eight years to Murica and we Muricans.

*snicker* that comment is even funnier cause you're from texas!
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post #122 of 221
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

Nonsense deleted - JL


Doing just that would kill Apple. You just described 1994-1997.
post #123 of 221
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Originally Posted by Celemourn View Post

*snicker* that comment is even funnier cause you're from texas!

Only posting this cause I happen to know it.

The degree is in... history. Not even kidding.
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post #124 of 221
Well, it's fully great that you don't run the company because I'm sure none of us would be here if that were the case.

Without Steve, Apple would just be another company. Hopefully, this is no big deal. Steve's an icon who creates equally iconic products. Gag me if Phil Schiller is the future of keynotes.
post #125 of 221
Whatever makes him weak can only make him stronger, keep up the fight Steve!
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post #126 of 221
I didn't think he looked unhealthy at all..
post #127 of 221
I too noticed that Jobs looked thin when I saw the video of his address on Monday... he looked a bit frail when he moved around on stage. Also, I thought it curious that he had a lot of his Department Heads taking the floor for extended periods. This was before I started to read rumours of his heath online. In addition, a friend of mine was over and asked to see Jobs' keynote and the first thing he said was: "Wow! How old is Jobs now? He looks 80?!

I hope it is what Apple is saying "... that Jobs is under the weather." That and the stress of launching a new product to market must take it's toll. Let's hope that's all it is. The world is a much more interesting place with him around.
post #128 of 221
I'm so glad you aren't the CEO. Those are horrible ideas for multiple reasons.

The only thing you got right was the 30%, but it's not marketshare, its what the stock price would fall to overnight if those poor business decisions were enacted.

God save the Steve!
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post #129 of 221
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Originally Posted by jcsegenmd View Post

I didn't see anyone else notice the the profit margin on a £$200 iPhone is pretty slim

observe, mes amis, a comment by Gregg Keizer, Computerworld July 03, 2007

Apple's iPhone profit margin greater than 50 percent
Tear-down analysis by iSuppli finds that $333 out of the $599 price for the 8GB iPhone is profit for Apple, a margin of nearly 56 percent

Even if they sell 20 million that drastic a drop in price is an oddity, as the profit margin is pretty thin; $299 I could see, even $249, but $199? They'll be selling out at that price and not making a lot of money

why?

Because AT&T is paying out the rear to subsidize the $199 price point. Apple just shifted all the risk to AT&T by getting their money up front vs a cut of the revenue stream. Heck AT&T posted a warning about their margins and earnings due to the new iPhone despite the expected increase in customer base.

Back on topic. Steve does look a bit gaunt but I guess we'll see at the next event if it's just cold+aging or something more dire.
post #130 of 221
He looks fine, the guy was never fat to begin with.

I think if you do all he does, you could be forgiven for catching the odd cold or just stressin yourself out. Big whoop.
post #131 of 221
Just looked at the pictures in this thread and I am absolutely *shocked*. From that I saw, Steve looked like he should be anywhere apart from on that stage.

The last time I saw detailed pictures of a Keynote was in 2005/2006, and the contrast to now is just huge. I really don't want to say it, but at WWDC he reminded of my Dad when he was going through Chemo, and the months afterwards.

Pale, fragile, gaunt, and really hugely thin (and he wasn't exactly fat in 2005!). Seeing his jawline and neck, and how it looks now is just shocking. Emaciated.

I really do hope he is in good health, and it was as Apple have said 'just a cold', and I don't want to be negative, but he really did look in a bad way...

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post #133 of 221
... !

People seem to be using the most unflattering picture of Steve. It's like he's trying desperately to blow a bubble from blu-tac!

I'm sure it's nothing serious. What is?! He's looking a bit thin ... bloody hell, he's not -that- much thinner! If it is something serious I hope to heaven he's ok, but I just don't see it. Fingers crossed.
post #134 of 221
Ok, that's seriously not funny any more.
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post #135 of 221
Ok, actually, the more I think about this, and the more posts I'm reading in retaliation to this one, the more convinced I'm becomming that...
He's a Troll.
I could be wrong, of course, but this is just too perfectly inflammatory. Every single thing he listed is precisely the kind of thing to set us all off.

Soooo... YHBT I bet?

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post #136 of 221
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NOTE: I have no idea why, but every time I "quote" someone my reply is placed in the wrong time position in these threads.... ADMIN!!!

you always seem to have this issue every so often, danged annoying
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post #137 of 221
Probably Steve is just suffering from what many of us suffer from - getting older. The hands are the give away. Bugs have a real way of messing one up the older one gets!
post #138 of 221
I think FSJ has the real scoop on this one:

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/0...nds-today.html

I always go to FSJ when I need to find out what's really going on with Apple (and the Democrat nomination for that matter)

Here's why they didn't announce the new MacBooks on Monday...

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/0...ounce-new.html

So now you know!
post #139 of 221
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While watching the stream of the Keynote, I noticed how gaunt he looked. He also just seemed frail overall, the way he moved, etc.

Ever since he was treated for cancer, Apple has been trotting out other officers in these presentations, trying to plan for a transition. It seemed especially true this time when Jobs did less than half of the Keynote.

While I hope whatever is ailing him (be it transient or serious) is resolved soon.

Sickness asside, how old is Jobs, over 55 isn't he? We're all destined for great looks as we age ya know.

Steve is close to my Dad's age. My Dad is a very driven & active guy, but his body isn't behaving the way it used to anymore. Getting old is a tough thing for someone like Steve, you often push yourself to maintain the same level of activity you always have but your body just isn't able to handle the late nights & long work hours anymore.

I believe Apple, I think Steve just needs to start thinking about a successor & then take a step back just as Bill Gates has. Better to do it before he gets to far along in age so that he's able to hang around a long long time & show he's still a great presence at Apple.
post #140 of 221
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

It's time for another leader, this time with a university education, to emerge and do so much better than Steve Jobs could ever do


What does a "university education" have to do with anything?

Obama graduated from Columbia, has a J. D. from Harvard Law School and give "lectures" at University of Chicago Law School, but this man is dumber than George W. Bush if it were not for someone writing his speeches and a teleprompter!

Don't believe me... ever see this man speak on the fly on subject matter over his head? Although the mainstream media will not highlight these gaffes, it's out there! Oh, it's out there... So you see, you can be "university educated" and still be stupid.

Steve, I wish you good health!

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post #141 of 221
Steve Jobs is to Apple as....

Jerry Garcia was to the Grateful Dead.

when he goes, its done with. People will try to keep the spirit going and the coal car filled, but the train will come to a slow stop and that will be it. No more ideas, nothing new, the people left to lead will fight amongst themselves, and they will end up making a mockery of the whole subject.
post #142 of 221
I found the photo very depressing - never underestimate the quiet courage, stoicism and desire to carry on people seem to be able to call up if they get seriously ill.

I really hope I'm wrong though.

Good luck Steve...
post #143 of 221
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Originally Posted by Stuart Kirby View Post

... !

People seem to be using the most unflattering picture of Steve. It's like he's trying desperately to blow a bubble from blu-tac!

I'm sure it's nothing serious. What is?! He's looking a bit thin ... bloody hell, he's not -that- much thinner! If it is something serious I hope to heaven he's ok, but I just don't see it. Fingers crossed.

Not trying to use unflattering shots... just trying to capture frames in basically the same pose at the same angle. Don't misunderstand - I don't think anyone WANTS anything to be wrong with Steve. I think there's just this underlying concern because he IS Apple, at least the only Apple anyone can really imagine.
post #144 of 221
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

What does a "university education" have to do with anything?

Obama graduated from Columbia, has a J. D. from Harvard Law School and give "lectures" at University of Chicago Law School, but this man is dumber than George W. Bush if it were not for someone writing his speeches and a teleprompter!

Don't believe me... ever see this man speak on the fly on subject matter over his head? Although the mainstream media will not highlight these gaffes, it's out there! Oh, it's out there... So you see, you can be "university educated" and still be stupid.

Steve, I wish you good health!

No offense, but are you retarded?

Didn't Rush Limbaugh mention that Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review as well?

I can't wait until November, when you and the rest of the brain-dead 28% of this country scurry back under your rocks.
post #145 of 221
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Originally Posted by Celemourn View Post

Ok, apparently none of you are aware of the secret insider information I possess. Allow me to enlighten you all. For all photographic evidence, please refer to THIS SITE.
So, here we go. The secret is...

Steve Jobs does not actually have any internal organs or skeletal structure.

How is this possible, you may ask? Ah, it's simple. He is filled with pure, liquified EGO (Executive Growth hOrmone). It's what powers his Reality Distortion Field (the field generator is in the little toe of his left foot - you can see it when he wears sandals). Now, if we go back to 1997, when NeXT was acquired and Steve took over, (please refer to the above link for photos) you'll recall that he was looking quite plump. This is due to the fact that the RDF had been in disuse during the NeXT years, Steve having made relatively few public appearances. As a result, his stockpile of fuel was topped off, and ready to go.

Fast forward to 2003. After successfully deploying his RDF in the launch of the iMac, iPod, and making some very fundamental changes to Apple as a company, we can see that his EGO reserves had been depleted somewhat. He slimmed down, and even lost a bit of hair (follicles contain super high concentrations of EGO). Apple was the better for it.

Now we arrive at 2008. Steve has not only launched the third generation of iPod Nano, intel based Macs, the new form factor for the MacBook and MacBook Pro, the Mac Pro, and all the other wonderful little oddities of the last few years, but he has brought to fruition the iPod Touch and iPhone. These two, doubtless, have required the greatest expenditure of EGO so far, in what has been a monumental reshaping of the Cellular Backwater called America. We can tell by looking at all the phone makers (especially in China!) who are trying to copy the iPhone. The RDF has been working at triple capacity, and been doing double shifts.

So you see, Steve isn't ill. He hasn't even lost much weight (EGO is incredibly buoyant in Earth's atmosphere, and may frequently be mistaken for hot air). He's simply deflating.

So there you have it!



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post #146 of 221
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Originally Posted by haveyoumetmark View Post

Well, it's fully great that you don't run the company because I'm sure none of us would be here if that were the case.

Without Steve, Apple would just be another company. Hopefully, this is no big deal. Steve's an icon who creates equally iconic products. Gag me if Phil Schiller is the future of keynotes.

Even Kentucky Fried Chicken survived without Colonel Sanders.
post #147 of 221
He's not particularly old for a CEO level person. And if he decides he doesn't want to do keynotes any more there's no reason he can't still pull the levers behind the scenes. What Bill Gates did was hand over day to day management to someone else but still may strategic decisions himself for some time. Of course maybe in some ways that's an artificial separation.
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Oh come on, it wasn't THAT bad was it?

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post #149 of 221
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Originally Posted by gmon750 View Post

It's obvious that you and ignorance are bedfellows. Steve Jobs has done more for the industry than any over-educated booksmart individual could ever accomplish. You seem to have a strange definition of what "success" should be. People like Jobs, Gates, Packard,Rockerfeller, etc.. come from a common cloth. The took the risks and laid it all out on the line for something they believed in and made a huge empire out of it. They came from the school of hard knocks and not from some pompous Ivy-league background with a silver-spoon in their mouths. They have taken the risks and chances that most folks would never consider trying.

The world was built from the hard work of people that really had a mission. Of course, while everyone is entitled to their opinion, your rant is of extremely poor taste considering the topic of this forum.

You really need to resist the temptation to escape your parent's basement. Perhaps they need to change the locks to keep you more secure... I mean... "safe".

It's funny how people think they could do so much better than someone who's doing it already, and whose stock is worth close to 8 times as much as Microsoft's.

There are reasons that Mac OS X runs only on Apple computers. Apple has a reason for the things they do; something tells me they really don't care about this guy's opinion.

Learn, don't criticize. Steve Jobs is a veritable genius, which shows from his corporations' successes.
post #150 of 221
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Originally Posted by sillycybin View Post

when he goes, its done with. People will try to keep the spirit going and the coal car filled, but the train will come to a slow stop and that will be it. No more ideas, nothing new, the people left to lead will fight amongst themselves, and they will end up making a mockery of the whole subject.

That's a little over-dramatic, isn't it? NO new ideas? Come on...
post #151 of 221
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Originally Posted by Celemourn View Post

Ok, actually, the more I think about this, and the more posts I'm reading in retaliation to this one, the more convinced I'm becomming that...
He's a Troll.
I could be wrong, of course, but this is just too perfectly inflammatory. Every single thing he listed is precisely the kind of thing to set us all off.

Soooo... YHBT I bet?

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post #152 of 221
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It's funny how people think they could do so much better than someone who's doing it already, and whose stock is worth close to 8 times as much as Microsoft's..

Apple' stock is not valued at 8x MS'. The per share stock price is higher, but that means nothing with out looking at the number of shares each company has. MSFT has 9.31B shares while AAPL has only 881.62M.
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post #153 of 221
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It's funny how people think they could do so much better than someone who's doing it already, and whose stock is worth close to 8 times as much as Microsoft's.

That's an invalid comparison. One should not compare companies based on the cost of a single share, because every company is broken up into differing numbers of shares. Microsoft as a whole is still worth 60% more than Apple is in terms of market capitalization.
post #154 of 221
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Originally Posted by hezekiahb View Post

I believe Apple, I think Steve just needs to start thinking about a successor & then take a step back just as Bill Gates has. Better to do it before he gets to far along in age so that he's able to hang around a long long time & show he's still a great presence at Apple.

Hey, there's a thought.

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Even Kentucky Fried Chicken survived without Colonel Sanders.

Um...

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post #156 of 221
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I believe Apple, I think Steve just needs to start thinking about a successor & then take a step back just as Bill Gates has. Better to do it before he gets to far along in age so that he's able to hang around a long long time & show he's still a great presence at Apple.

You think Steve Ballmer was a good choice?? What is this world coming to!?!

"Frigtard" is all I can think when it comes to Steve Ballmer.
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Even Kentucky Fried Chicken survived without Colonel Sanders.

Hardly a good comparison. Does KFC's recipe change every year?
post #158 of 221
I was at the keynote. Steve looks like one of those rich celebrities that can afford the best dietitians and fitness trainers. I suspect the cancer scare has driven him to eat extremely healthy and to exercise extremely. He was actually quite bronzed and those pics seem to require a bit of colour management. So I think this is all nonsense. He's just healthy slim instead of his beefier look pre-cancer. I wish I was that thin.
post #159 of 221
I suppose this is the picture of health the media is looking for...



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I suppose this is the picture of health the media is looking for...

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Touche!
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