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post #41 of 221
6/10/08 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by McHuman View Post

Everyone I know here in los angeles has a cold right now. Its going around the west coast cities. I know I for one look like major ASS when I get a bad cold.

But what do you look like when you are well?

My wife, the woman who supposedly loves me, says that on my best days, my best days!, that I look like Lieutenant ASS!
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post #42 of 221
6/10/08 at 2:52pm
If anything does happen to Steve Jobs, I'd be pretty sad . Knowing how much he has done for Apple and knowing how much he gave back to his customers. He truly made Apple "his" and I hope that Apple will keep it that way. I never in my life considered a mac probably until Steve Jobs came around and gave the company his own little twist. I'm proud of him even if its just a cold.
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post #43 of 221
6/10/08 at 2:53pm
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But what do you look like when you are well?

My wife, the woman who supposedly loves me, says that on my best days, my best days!, that I look like Lieutenant ASS!

LMAO!!!

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post #44 of 221
6/10/08 at 2:57pm
To correct the line above about Steve Jobs being a vegan, he isn't. He is a Pescetarian. Big difference and it allows us to avoid that whole "vegans look sick" thing.

To keep on theme, the only "fishy" thing about the announcement IMO was the reference to antibiotics. You don't take antibiotics for a cold, flu, etc. unless you are an idiot and Steve Jobs is no idiot. That alone, if true, is a tad suspicious.

It's clear that he is phasing himself out of the role of being the top presenter at the shows, but that doesn't mean he's sick (although he may be of course.) Bottom line is it's his business and all that crap about the shareholders having a "right to know" is BS in my opinion.
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post #45 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

To correct the line above about Steve Jobs being a vegan, he isn't. He is a Pescetarian. Big difference and it allows us to avoid that whole "vegans look sick" thing.

To keep on theme, the only "fishy" thing about the announcement IMO was the reference to antibiotics. You don't take antibiotics for a cold, flu, etc. unless you are an idiot and Steve Jobs is no idiot. That alone, if true, is a tad suspicious.

It's clear that he is phasing himself out of the role of being the top presenter at the shows, but that doesn't mean he's sick (although he may be of course.) Bottom line is it's his business and all that crap about the shareholders having a "right to know" is BS in my opinion.

I don't agree with you. Jobs' health is Apple's health. Of course, no one is irreplaceable, but a replacement is not as valuable as the original in this case.

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post #46 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:02pm
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In my days of simply lurking on this forum, I read any number of ouragan's tirades about how Steve Jobs didn't deserve his success because he was "the illegitimate child of an unwed mother and a Syrian father," and because he "didn't have the persistence or moral fiber to complete a university education." (Like Bill Gates did, for example?) I've almost been motivated to reply on several occasions, if only to say how offended I am by these arguments, but I usually just say to myself: "Well, everybody's entitled to their opinion."

However: saying that kind of thing on this particular thread is at least bad taste....

I agree.

Maybe it is ironic, but because I had the opportunity to get an advanced degree in engineering, I recognize that there are talents that can best be realized with a bachelor's degree or no degree at all. I liken Steve Jobs and (gack) Bill Gates to Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett -- when you've got that kind of innate talent, what is college going to do for you (except take away four productive years from you)? These people are exceptionally rare, and if you self-select yourself to be among them, you had better be right. Education is the surest way for the vast majority of us to develop marketable skills, but you have to appreciate that a small number of us can afford to by-pass the formal education system. (In fact, you might go so far as to say that some innately talented people get their souls and spirits crushed by the educational system.)

I wish Steve Jobs the best of health. He is an incredible person and I hope for his sake and his family's that he has a long and happy life. His service at Apple, Inc. is just a bonus for the rest of us.
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post #47 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:07pm
Take a look at him just over a year ago at MacWorld 2007:


And earlier this year at MacWorld 2008 in January:


And then yesterday at WWDC:


The man is clearly wasting away- and quickly.
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post #48 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by smokeonit View Post

if you knew how the people died that were poisoned by the putin secret police state people you wouldn't make jokes like that... i think it's one of the worst deaths out there, it's like rotting from the inside, slowly, a VERY painful death... i hope putin and the ones responsible will have to face justice for what they did to those people one day!!!

You're right, that joke is pretty inappropriate. Sorry to any and all who were offended.
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post #49 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:12pm
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post #50 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:12pm
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For those of you in other places - there has been a really bad cold going around CA for the last 4-6 months. The cold last 1 month+. I had it for nearly two months and lost 10 lbs.

10 lbs from a cold? Damn, I should catch a couple of those!
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post #51 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by DestructoTex View Post

Take a look at him just over a year ago at MacWorld 2007....

I'm sorry, but I don't see a whole lot of difference between those photos except that he is clean shaven for the first time in the recent one.

There are differences, and you could convince yourself that he is in fact ill, but there is nothing about them that makes it anything like a certainty IMO. three random pictures from different angles is not enough to show anything one way or the other.

Again, not saying he *isn't* sick, but these pics are a long way from proving anything.

Maybe he just wants to live forever. The best way to live a long life is to be the skinniest guy on the block, everyone knows that. Just as people who keep their weight under control can expect to live ten years longer than the rest, those who actually reduce their calorie intake further can add even more years. If anyone would be focussed on stuff like that it's Steve Jobs.
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post #52 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

To correct the line above about Steve Jobs being a vegan, he isn't. He is a Pescetarian. Big difference and it allows us to avoid that whole "vegans look sick" thing.

To keep on theme, the only "fishy" thing about the announcement IMO was the reference to antibiotics. You don't take antibiotics for a cold, flu, etc. unless you are an idiot and Steve Jobs is no idiot. That alone, if true, is a tad suspicious.

It's clear that he is phasing himself out of the role of being the top presenter at the shows, but that doesn't mean he's sick (although he may be of course.) Bottom line is it's his business and all that crap about the shareholders having a "right to know" is BS in my opinion.

i agree that his health is his thing, no shareholder has the right to ask for his health record!!! that's ridiculous...
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post #53 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by k2director View Post

10 lbs from a cold? Damn, I should catch a couple of those!

That's a fairly common weight loss from a Norovirus (commonly known as Winter Vomiting Bug) or a number of other gastric bugs.

He was a skinny runt to start with. These things seriously reduce your weight over a shocking quick period of time.
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post #54 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:20pm
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You're right, that joke is pretty inappropriate. Sorry to any and all who were offended.

i didn't want be rude or anything, thank you for your understanding!
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post #55 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

I'm sorry, but I don't see a whole lot of difference between those photos except that he is clean shaven for the first time in the recent one.

There are differences, and you could convince yourself that he is in fact ill, but there is nothing about them that makes it anything like a certainty IMO. three random pictures from different angles is not enough to show anything one way or the other.

Again, not saying he *isn't* sick, but these pics are a long way from proving anything.

Maybe he just wants to live forever. The best way to live a long life is to be the skinniest guy on the block, everyone knows that. Just as people who keep their weight under control can expect to live ten years longer than the rest, those who actually reduce their calorie intake further can add even more years. If anyone would be focussed on stuff like that it's Steve Jobs.

there's the example of karl lagerfeld, he went from super overweight to extremely skinny, EXTREME!!! so it could be that steve met karl and karl convinced steve to to the same to himself???

karl lagerfeld owns like hundreds of ipods... he's a big mac fan... i think there's a high chance that the 2 have met and are friends???
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post #56 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:22pm
In the spirit of "Just one more thing...."

If Steve Jobs was treated for pancreatic cancer, however successful the treatment may have been, he's undoubtedly having to take insulin; I have known a number of diabetic people who developed this type of cadaverous physiognomy--it didn't mean they were going to die anytime soon. I certainly hope that's the answer, and he's with us for a long time yet, but I think the vision is in place for the next 10 years at least--it's just waiting for technology to catch up with it.
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post #57 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:24pm
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That's a fairly common weight loss from a Norovirus (commonly known as Winter Vomiting Bug) or a number of other gastric bugs.

He was a skinny runt to start with. These things seriously reduce your weight over a shocking quick period of time.

but why the antibiotics thing??? as we know, there's no treatment against viruses... no matter if a simple cold or a stomach virus... only bacterial infections can be treated with antibiotics... but not viruses...
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post #58 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:28pm
could be the Man Flu! Either way I hope he gets better and I can't see Steve leaving anytime soon, he does look thinner but having a cold can lead to loss of appetite etc.

Get well soon Steve!
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post #59 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:32pm
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but why the antibiotics thing??? as we know, there's no treatment against viruses... no matter if a simple cold or a stomach virus... only bacterial infections can be treated with antibiotics... but not viruses...

"or a number of other gastric bugs"

I was unaware that antibiotics were any use against cancer either. Your point caller?
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post #60 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

It's time for another leader, this time with a university education, to emerge and do so much better than Steve Jobs could ever do:

It's the leaders with university degrees that almost capsized Apple. Why go back to that?
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post #61 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

In my days of simply lurking on this forum, I read any number of ouragan's tirades about how Steve Jobs didn't deserve his success because he was "the illegitimate child of an unwed mother and a Syrian father," and because he "didn't have the persistence or moral fiber to complete a university education." (Like Bill Gates did, for example?) I've almost been motivated to reply on several occasions, if only to say how offended I am by these arguments, but I usually just say to myself: "Well, everybody's entitled to their opinion."

However: saying that kind of thing on this particular thread is at least bad taste....

Steve Jobs is Hank Rearden and he deserves every bit of profit from his company he's earned. Maybe ouragan should go out and start a company that is the embodiment of his ideals and see if it works or sells. I think Microsoft, IBM and Dell have already done what he suggests and they're getting their ass handed to them as far as I'm concerned.

Now, I just did a little research and found out that Steve had a neuroendocrine islet cell tumor removed from his pancreas. It's the exocrine pancreas cancers that are uniformly fatal. So this is reassuring to me. They are indolent in nature and can be cured by surgical resection. They can metastasize to the liver but can be treated there as well with good survival rates.
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post #62 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:44pm
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It's the leaders with university degrees that almost capsized Apple. Why go back to that?

i couldn't agree more!
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post #63 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:46pm
Oh come on, it's not like Apple will die out and go bankrupt if Steve has to leave for health reasons. He's been there for what, 10 years now? I'm sure Forestall, Schiller and others have caught up enough of the "Steveism" to continue his work after he leaves, and run Apple like he would do. Besides, it's not like Steve designs the new MacBook Pro, codes half of Snow Leopard and then goes out to settle yet another iPhone carrier contract. Sure, he takes some major decisions, but I'm pretty confident that if whoever follows him comes from the current top at Apple, there will be a big "WWSD" mentality.
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post #64 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

Maybe he just wants to live forever. The best way to live a long life is to be the skinniest guy on the block, everyone knows that. Just as people who keep their weight under control can expect to live ten years longer than the rest, those who actually reduce their calorie intake further can add even more years. If anyone would be focussed on stuff like that it's Steve Jobs.

This is a very good point. Steve Jobs seems like a very likely convert to Ray Kurzweil's Live Long Enough to Live Forever cult.
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post #65 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:53pm
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Oh come on, it's not like Apple will die out and go bankrupt if Steve has to leave for health reasons. He's been there for what, 10 years now? I'm sure Forestall, Schiller and others have caught up enough of the "Steveism" to continue his work after he leaves, and run Apple like he would do. Besides, it's not like Steve designs the new MacBook Pro, codes half of Snow Leopard and then goes out to settle yet another iPhone carrier contract. Sure, he takes some major decisions, but I'm pretty confident that if whoever follows him comes from the current top at Apple, there will be a big "WWSD" mentality.

Those who have not gone through the process of starting their own company just don't get it. One might think the founder of a company can easily be replaced with any old MBA... dead wrong. A company literally is a living entity to the entrepreneur. Something to be shaped and grown.

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post #66 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:54pm
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Oh come on, it's not like Apple will die out and go bankrupt if Steve has to leave for health reasons.

Yea it is like that.
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post #67 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:56pm
the pics of DestructoTex are notable....re weight, and stunningly, apparently the same clothes, quite miserly, eh?
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post #68 of 221
6/10/08 at 3:58pm
Apple did not deny that Steve is gravely ill. Can't you people see that "Steve had a cold recently" does not contradict "Steve's gravely ill with cancer." I hope not, but he could be.
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6/10/08 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by DestructoTex View Post

Take a look at him just over a year ago at MacWorld 2007:


And earlier this year at MacWorld 2008 in January:


And then yesterday at WWDC:


The man is clearly wasting away- and quickly.


Oh, come on, that's all because of the lighting and focal length of the lens. Look, I dragged the third one into PS, lightened it a little and saturated the reds, and then shortened it to match the proportions of the first photo from 2007. Now, doesn't he look just fine?


I think this is a little sensational. But, just in case, I hope they've got some engineers working on a way to keep his brain alive inside a Mac. haha.
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6/10/08 at 4:00pm
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Those who have not gone through the process of starting their own company just don't get it. One might think the founder of a company can easily be replaced with any old MBA... dead wrong. A company literally is a living entity to the entrepreneur. Something to be shaped and grown.

yes!

good companies depend on a good team leading and having a VISION! just like politics....!!!

no vision, no goal, no growth...

and don't forget experience, taste and all those things... one of the most important things about apple is it's design and to be able to bring products to life that are ahead of the market... most of the apple products were copied somehow for years to come...

just look @ the iphone and how it has been copied by almost any phone manufacturer... but what most people don;t get is that the iphones most important strength is iphone osX! the ability to do everything other phones do, but with ease. apple always has tried to make difficult, tedious things, easy and to bring them to the masses.... they're back on track... that's also wht mobileme is so important, to make all those features easy to use... most people don;t even try to master those things since just spelling the names of the features is almost impossible for the non-geek...
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post #71 of 221
6/10/08 at 4:03pm
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Yea it is like that.

Agreed. Apple, like any company, is bound to be run by idiots. Steve ran Apple in the 1980s, things were great. Other people ran Apple in the 90s, everything went straight to hell.

Steve is the ONLY thing keeping Apple on track. A WWSD mentality is great -- possibly our best hope -- but the dangers of Steve leaving are extreme.

Steve's leadership is not just a philosophy. It's making calls on new ideas. You either make the wrong call or the right call. Nobody has made as many right calls as Steve. Probably no one could. Steve is not a "leadership team." He is one man. His word is final. This has been the key to Apple's success. Integration, singular focus, singular ideas. It's all Steve. IMO
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post #72 of 221
6/10/08 at 4:03pm
he's looked better. i noticed his face, he looked gaunt.

perhaps he is .... aging?


or from the looks of him, maybe schillers been swiping steve's salmon sprout pita wrap from the executive fridge.
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post #73 of 221
6/10/08 at 4:09pm
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Oh, come on, that's all because of the lighting and focal length of the lens. Look, I dragged the third one into PS, lightened it a little and saturated the reds, and then shortened it to match the proportions of the first photo from 2007. Now, doesn't he look just fine?


I think this is a little sensational. But, just in case, I hope they've got some engineers working on a way to keep his brain alive inside a Mac. haha.

Here's a comparison clockwise: March 6 SDK event, WWDC 2008, Special Event Sept. 2007, Macworld 2008.



I noticed this too. It seemed like the aspect ratio of the keynote was off compared to previous keynotes.

I don't think he looks that bad to be honest with you, to me he always looks thinner at WWDC keynotes compared to Macworld keynotes.
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post #74 of 221
6/10/08 at 4:16pm
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I am making coffin right now!

Seriously, this whole article shows Appleinsider in a really poor light. I've always preferred this place to Mac Rumors but I notice they have seen fit not to enter into this idle and, frankly, rather shameful speculation.

Poor show AI.
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post #75 of 221
6/10/08 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by jimerl View Post

perhaps he is .... aging?.

I think you've nailed it. People still think he's the same man he was in the 80's, but look and Bush's pix from 2000 vs now. Age does catch up to people in stressful situations.

Jobs is getting older, and it's starting to show. Someday he will retire. I wouldn't think that would come as a shock to people.
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post #76 of 221
6/10/08 at 4:17pm
I went to my dentist Monday (about four hours before the keynote). My dentist has been battling some type of abdominal cancer for about a year. I couldn't get over how gaunt my dentist appeared since I last saw him six months ago. Jobs looked much like he did. When I first saw Jobs at the keynote, the first word to come to my mind was "cancer."

I think if Jobs was battling some type of flu they would have prefaced it before the show. Anyway, Jobs is entitled to his privacy concerning health. I do wish him well and I hope I am wrong.
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6/10/08 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

It's time for another leader, this time with a university education, to emerge and do so much better than Steve Jobs could ever do

This comment is so stupid, I almost fell over laughing. Yeah, like George Bush, maybe--he's got a degree, right? What an idiotic thing to say. And on this particular thread, totally without a shred of class.

(I have a university education, by the way--a graduate degree from a fairly prestigious university. While the process was worthwhile for me, it sure wasn't necessary for achieving success in business--which I did years *before* I went to university, managing lots of people who had degrees from fancy institutions while I had none.)
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6/10/08 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by red_kola View Post

That's a fairly common weight loss from a Norovirus (commonly known as Winter Vomiting Bug) or a number of other gastric bugs.

He was a skinny runt to start with. These things seriously reduce your weight over a shocking quick period of time.

Those things are seriously bad, and I've had it dozens of times, the one thing I really hate about xmas/new year. over the last ten years I've been almost guaranteed to get a bout of it, some times 2 or three.

Ive actually lost about 14lbs in 30 mins, so, you know, Steve has a way to go IMO.

Calorie Restriction is what I'm thinking now I've had time to mull it over, its like something he'd be into, all about control all about being better, but it can leave you with less energy.
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6/10/08 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by jcsegenmd View Post

I didn't see anyone else notice the the profit margin on a £$200 iPhone is pretty slim

observe, mes amis, a comment by Gregg Keizer, Computerworld July 03, 2007

Apple's iPhone profit margin greater than 50 percent
Tear-down analysis by iSuppli finds that $333 out of the $599 price for the 8GB iPhone is profit for Apple, a margin of nearly 56 percent

Even if they sell 20 million that drastic a drop in price is an oddity, as the profit margin is pretty thin; $299 I could see, even $249, but $199? They'll be selling out at that price and not making a lot of money

why?

They'll be giving away the shavers and charging for the blades (old business axiom)... they can afford to take less of a profit on every iPhone because now they'll be taking a little piece of every software sale... Guess what? This is the same model that made them the biggest seller of music in the world! That seems pretty smart to me.

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6/10/08 at 4:32pm
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Calorie Restriction is what I'm thinking now I've had time to mull it over, its like something he'd be into, all about control all about being better, but it can leave you with less energy.

This is of course possible, but obviously Apple thought it was important to issue a statement to allay investor fears. He's sick with something obviously.

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