Originally Posted by wheelhot
Why are they people who is hoping Mac OS X to be on PCs? Cant you see that Apple wants to be in control of the hardware spec of their product.
They acquire PA to develop processor for the iPhone and iPod.
Anyway, I know some PPC users will be hurt with Apple move but hey, maybe the reason Apple is not really going to introduce any new big feature for Snow Leopard is cause they want to let the public know that they are moving towards Intel only support so asking the users to get ready to buy a new Mac the following year (Im talking after SL, Mac OS X 10.7 (Or Mac OS 11))
First off, I skimmed the page wheelhot links to in his/her sig (arguing Apple will never just sell software). Granted, I didn't read the whole thing in detail, but doesn't that author also claim on the same page that the switch to Intel won't happen? Not only is the article quite dated in its view point, it's wrong. Not very compelling.
Another critique on that article:
The only way to see the Mac as unsuccessful is to compare it to Windows on Microsoft’s terms — market share and raw profit. And that’s exactly how analysts and the PC press cover the Mac.
What they miss is that the Mac’s primary purpose is to be better. Windows’s (sic) primary purpose is to be ubiquitous.
Both companies exist to make money, and certainly Apple wants Macs to be better. I think Apple will sell its OS to run on non-Apple hardware. This will make them a lot of money. When they do this, they will also make sure that Macs are better. This is how I see PA Semi fitting in. They will ensure that the OS is optimized for Apple hardware.
I haven't finished reading the thread about Steve's claim that PA is going to make iPhone chips, but my initial impression is that this is a weird comment to make when you've just introduced a new phone. A phone that obviously doesn't use this hardware technology. It seems like bait and switch to me. --Not that the statement is a lie. I just doubt that's the real reason.
Back to Snow Leopard:
I'm ambivalent in my opinion about whether or not PPC will be supported; I can see the argument from both sides and I feel strongly both ways. I'll need to cogitate on it more. However, I think PPC will ultimately be supported. My thinking is that the line of reasoning that says it's too hard (PPC 32 bit/64 bit & same w/Intel) is overblown. They've done it before and they've done it when they were working on big new projects--read: "iPhone". Sure, Leopard was delayed a while--a short while.
And here Apple has just finished
with the new iPhone. They've already developed it and manufactured it. What's going to prevent them from concentrating on Snow Leopard for all relevant hardware? Those quad G5s are still relevant hardware. Also, I'm in agreement with those who can't see leaving Leopard as the last OS for the PPC--it's just not good enough for it.
10.6 for Intel only is not abandoning support for PPC as others have argued. So that mind-walk is moot. But the fact that Apple has committed to supporting the PPC for 5 years is ample reason to make Snow Leopard support PPC. That
would be an easier way of providing support than having to maintain two different OSs for two sets of hardware. I submit that that approach would be harder to implement than just getting 10.6 to work on 32/64 PPC/Intel.
While I'm firm in my belief that Apple will open its OS to non-Apple hardware, I don't think this will happen straight-off with the release of 10.6. It will either be the next version of the OS or Apple will do it with 10.6 after some delay post introduction.
I think the plan is to optimize Snow Leopard for the hardware that PA is going to add to Macs--not iPhones. At the same time, Snow Leopard will be optimized for multiple cores, period--be they PPC or Intel. They need both to provide enough hype and oomph to get people to buy it, because I agree there won't be very many owners of current hardware that will feel they really need it. Basically, Apple will hype how optimized it is for existing hardware. People will buy it. [EDIT]People with PPC computers will especially buy it if Apple says "this is it; no maintenance on any other OS X versions supported by PPC."[/EDIT] After they've milked it for all they can to existing Apple owners, then they'll open it to other hardware. And that's when they'll also unveil their own new hardware with PA stuff so that they can maintain the Mac performance edge and cachet.
I wouldn't worry too much about developers dropping PPC. Even if this happens, by the time it does the OS will work on anything and the requisite hardware will be inexpensive--more so than it already is. That's when the PPC will be obsolete. Even if they're still "relevant" machines, it will be so cheap to work with developer software that doesn't support PPC that the idea of there still being good G5s won't even matter. They'll go to JPL or whatever and the tax write-off will pay for the new systems.