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post #41 of 89
[quote]Originally posted by murbot:
<strong>For PowerBook owners, there (finally) is an option to reduce processor performance in the Energy Saver preferences, under Options.

Cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The option's there on iBooks too!
post #42 of 89
had it installed less than 20 hours, and just got a kernal panic. hmm...i wonder whats up...

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post #43 of 89
and everything seems sluggish, moreso than before. if anything, i feel this is a step in the wrong direction...
just stick w/ 10.1.4
this update isnt all that necessary. damn, seeing the spinning disk more now too...
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post #44 of 89
10.1.5 is running well on my Rev. D iMac. Resizing windows ins smoother accross the board. Quicktime movies are actually viewable now (yay) and itunes visuals is back on par with OS 9 (give or take). And all in all it is Snappier. This update is a good thing for anyone with a rage pro.
post #45 of 89
[quote]Originally posted by _ alliance _:
<strong>and everything seems sluggish, moreso than before. if anything, i feel this is a step in the wrong direction...
just stick w/ 10.1.4
this update isnt all that necessary. damn, seeing the spinning disk more now too... </strong><hr></blockquote>

I've noticed in the past few minutes that it's a little more sluggish on my iBook when I have more than 3 or 4 apps running, not too big of a problem though.
post #46 of 89
New options? What new options?

I'm on a TiPB 550 and I have no new options under Energy Saver. Anybody else?
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post #47 of 89
From reading over at Ars, it seems owners of the 550/667 PowerBooks (not 667 DVI) are out of luck for some reason.

Lots of folks there with iBooks that don't have it either, so I really don't know what's going on.

Weird.
post #48 of 89
Installed fine on my iBook 600. Added Silk freeware, and IE looks prettier now.

There were supposed to be improvements to CoreMIDI with this update, but I don't see it listed anywhere. I imagine these updates include "minor" fixes that aren't listed in the general improvements (this one is pretty major for me if it indeed works since I will be able to finally use Sibelius in X). Is there anywhere to get a more complete list of updates or is that just for developers?

[ 06-05-2002: Message edited by: chuckster ]</p>
post #49 of 89
[quote]Originally posted by murbot:
<strong>From reading over at Ars, it seems owners of the 550/667 PowerBooks (not 667 DVI) are out of luck for some reason.

Lots of folks there with iBooks that don't have it either, so I really don't know what's going on.

Weird.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hmmm... that is pretty weird.
post #50 of 89
Wow, Silk rocks!
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post #51 of 89
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[quote]Originally posted by Eugene:
<strong>Wow, Silk rocks!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Damn right it does...takes a while to get used to and after that its pretty awesome.

Also, iTunes visuals are much better as well. Yay!

Now all we need is this big bad next version of IE.
post #52 of 89
Just upgraded iBook 600...

It stuffed up the auto login, I had to log in manually. All of the little locks got locked as well, they werent before.

Now whenever I do anything to do with authentication it takes ages. For example, unlocking the lock on the login pane so I could turn auto login back on. Takes about 30 minutes while it sits there and does nothing. I thought it was totally stuffed at first, but just left it for a while and it got there.

Opening the Users panel is just as bad.

Logging in isnt.

Weird, but lucky I dont access that functionality very often.
post #53 of 89
Installed it on my Tibook 800Mhz, and got a messaged that it dint install correctly.... So restarted and was real slow to startup particularly when intilizing newtwork . Once started up everything went odd... Reinstalled 10.1.4

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post #54 of 89
[quote]Originally posted by murbot:
<strong>For PowerBook owners, there (finally) is an option to reduce processor performance in the Energy Saver preferences, under Options.

Cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Umm, that was there in 10.1.4 also. I think that the old 550 and 667 tibooks don't have that option because it's a new feature in the 7455 (or at least that's what the technote indicated)

Edit: Just to clarify what it does: on the 800s, it scales the CPU to 667 and turns off the L3 cache, and on the 667s, it just turns off the L3 cache.

[ 06-06-2002: Message edited by: agent302 ]</p>
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post #55 of 89
i'm aware of that, as well. however, does this reduce the processor performance continually, or only when the processor is not in use? (i read something like this today which was confusing)..

it would be nice to automatically turn this on when unplugged, and turn it off when plugged in.
post #56 of 89
anyone installed 10.1.5 on a imac G4/800 yet? i really dont want to touch this one, as i regret installing the last 2 updates, but the improved idisk performance is tempting.
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post #57 of 89
mac's girl...i would probably wait for 10.2....i downloaded 10.1.5 and had my first frozen iMac...had to power down....has been fine since then, but haven't played too much to see if i can do it again....if anything, 10.1.5 seems a bit slower than 10.1.4....but that is just my opinion....i would stick with 10.1.4 if it is running fine for you....hopefully 10.2 we be here soon....g
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post #58 of 89
says it failed to install - but under apple menu says 10.1.5... wtf ?

x is ok BUT you need some heavy juice ...

PowerMac G5 - here i come !

post #59 of 89
Does anyone have actual data to show if the performance of 10.1.5 is different? Like Let1kWindows Bloom, etc. I'm interested in hearing if it's faster. I certainly hope it's not slower! :eek: Thanks.

What system were you on, thegelding?
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post #60 of 89
i have an iMac 800 LCD with superdrive and 768 of ram...10.1.5 is ok, just doesn't seem any better than 10.1.4 and i had my first frozen system with 10.1.5...i've had my iMac since march 1st or something like that (it was one of the first iMac LCD's to make it across the ocean to the US of A from Tawain)...will play a bit more with it the next couple of days and see how it runs....but mac's girl has had some problems with her previous updates already...it would probably be better for her to wait till 10.2 unless she really needs 10.1.5....g
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post #61 of 89
Either 10.1.5 and/or Office X SR-1 have major font problems. Macintouch is full of reports about weird display problems with fonts, especially PS fonts, but also regular fonts, if the Quartz Smoothing is turned on. I tend to believe it's Office SR-1's fault, since people report ALL other Carbon apps, with Silk smoothing, don't have the same font spacing problems.
<a href="http://www.macintouch.com/mosxreader10.1.5pt01.html" target="_blank">http://www.macintouch.com/mosxreader10.1.5pt01.html</a>
<a href="http://www.macintouch.com/officevx5.html" target="_blank">http://www.macintouch.com/officevx5.html</a>

SR-2, coming next week?
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post #62 of 89
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[quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:
<strong>Either 10.1.5 and/or Office X SR-1 have major font problems. Macintouch is full of reports about weird display problems with fonts, especially PS fonts, but also regular fonts, if the Quartz Smoothing is turned on. I tend to believe it's Office SR-1's fault, since people report ALL other Carbon apps, with Silk smoothing, don't have the same font spacing problems.
<a href="http://www.macintouch.com/mosxreader10.1.5pt01.html" target="_blank">http://www.macintouch.com/mosxreader10.1.5pt01.html</a>
<a href="http://www.macintouch.com/officevx5.html" target="_blank">http://www.macintouch.com/officevx5.html</a>

SR-2, coming next week?</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #63 of 89
[quote]Originally posted by aasun:
<strong>i'm aware of that, as well. however, does this reduce the processor performance continually, or only when the processor is not in use? (i read something like this today which was confusing)..

it would be nice to automatically turn this on when unplugged, and turn it off when plugged in.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Direct from the <a href="http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G4/PowerBook_G4/" target="_blank">Powerbook G4 Developer Note</a>:

[quote]
PowerStep

PowerStep is a technique that allows the software to change the processor's clock speed, slowing down to conserve power or speeding up when more speed is needed. On the 800-MHz model, the slower clock speed is 667 MHz and the L3 cache is turned off as well. On the 667-MHz model, the clock speed is unchanged; only the L3 cache is turned off.

The PowerStep feature is accessible from the system software, from applications, and from the user interface.

The system software uses PowerStep to conserve power under the following conditions:
- During system startup
- When battery charge is low
- When there is no battery installed
- When using airline power
Applications that need to change the speed setting can use the API provided by the Energy Services Library in the system software.
The user interface for the PowerStep feature is a check box labeled Reduce Processor Performance in the Advanced Settings panel of the Energy Saver control panel.
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post #64 of 89
Hope I don't jinx anything by saying this but my 10.1.5 upgrade went fine. It didn't seem to up the speed anywhere, except maybe a few frames in UT or Q3A. No KP's yet.

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post #65 of 89
Installed 10.1.5 on my LCD 700 MHz iMac, 768 MB RAM.

Can't see any changes, apart from iDisk, which is still a lot slower than Goliath.

Oh well, I never had speed issues anyway (apart from iDisk).
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post #66 of 89
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post #67 of 89
Reports of networking problems on MacFixIt, and font problems on MacinTouch (Office SR-1's fault, no doubt, though!) continue to pour in. Anyone have any of the problems reported on these sites! They sound terrible! I'm waiting until M$ or Apple fix this. :eek:
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post #68 of 89
I have a G3 Series (PDQ version) PowerBook. I bought it because it has a RageLTPro graphics chip whereas the previous model only had a Rage Plus.

Unfortunately, 101.5 does NOT support RagePro or RageLTPro graphics chips, though <a href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com" target="_blank">www.xlr8yourmac.com</a> reports that it is possible to hack into a file so an "appropriate" hardware driver WILL be loaded at startup....

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post #69 of 89
Can't use color corrections in the display calibrator! I just installed 10.1.5 and now when using the display calibrator, it skips the setup, native gamma, and tristimuli values step. Was this done on purpose? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
post #70 of 89
Well, I did the Office SR-1 and 10.1.5 deal on an iMac that didn't have OS X previously. Just 9.1. Saw no font problems in Office! Didn't check PS fonts though. No problems seen, does feel "snappier!"

Using DHCP from server, no networking or sleep problems either. No monitor resolution problems. Will give this one more glance tomorrow before upgrading my HOME machine
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post #71 of 89
I am not certain how reliable all these reports of update problems are from other users. It seems a lot of users install 3rd party items and run a dirty system, and so their opinions may be unintentionally biased on issues within the updates. Always, I uninstall all 3rd party items and run MacJanitor (or the unix terminal lines for the daily, weekly, and monthly maintence items, themselves), plus a restart and run of fsck -y (hold command-S at start-up and type fsck -y at the prompt..maybe more than once, until it says everything is OK), before installing an update. I have had no problems with any of them so far, personally.

I have experienced problems running AOL and AIM with Silk since the 10.1.5 release, but I am just using Adium, now, until the issues are resolved with Silk. I guess I just love the smoothing too much to sacrifice it for AIM-AOL usage.

Also, I found iTunes to quit after a restart with SIlk installed on my machine if my iPod was attached to it. I just turned off the option to load iTunes with my iPod attached for now.

Everything else seems to be running great for me otherwise. *crosses fingers*

Best of luck to everyone else, though. Try some of the things I mentioned at first to see if your problems are resolved by them, of if doing these things allows you to now install the update.

[ 06-08-2002: Message edited by: Donny ]</p>
post #72 of 89
[quote]Originally posted by Convert:
<strong>Can't use color corrections in the display calibrator!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hm, just tested, no problems here.

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post #73 of 89
This information can be found on Apple's site at:

<a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106888" target="_blank">http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106888</a>

10.1.5 Features/Enhancements --

Enhancements Delivered with this update

In addition to enhancements previously delivered with Mac OS X 10.1.1, 10.1.2, 10.1.3, and 10.1.4, the Mac OS X 10.1.5 update includes the following:


Networking, Mail, and Internet Connectivity Enhancements

*\tA mail account will go offline if a secure connection to a remote SSL mail server cannot be made (when the SSL encryption option is enabled).
*\tImproves robustness when accessing files and directories on Microsoft Windows-based servers.
*\tResolves a potential Mail issue in which mailbox draft messages (besides the first) could be inadvertently deleted when using Rebuild Mailbox.
*\tEnhances the security of sendmail (a mail function in the Darwin subsystem unrelated to Mail.app).
*\tImproves compatibility when accessing a WebDAV volume via a non-standard http port.
*\tImproves function of certain kinds of WebDAV DNS lookups via an AirPort Base Station (Graphite).
*\tPermits communications with WebDAV servers that use long http header lines.
*\tReduces time required to list iDisk and WebDAV server directories.
*\tImproves buffer efficiency during WebDAV downloads.
*\tImproves WebDAV compatibility with servers that use chunked transfer-coding.
*\tAddresses a potential kernel panic situation that could occur when saving a file stored on an iDisk or WebDAV volume.
*\tTraditional Chinese text now appears when expected within Internet Connect (AirPort configuration).
*\tImproves general reliability of Mail.
*\tAdds a man page for mount_webdav (man pages are accessible when using the Terminal man command).

Device Compatibility Enhancements

*\tIncludes newer Adaptec SCSI card drivers (version 1.1.0) for Apple Ultra SCSI PCI cards and Apple 2906 SCSI PCI cards.
*\tAddresses an issue in which a SCSI-based magnetic-optical drive may inadvertently report media as write protected when it is not.
*\tImproves compatibility with certain Canon digital cameras.
*\tImproves reliability when deleting multiple images from certain Nikon digital cameras.
*\tImproves reliability of audio applications when a USB MIDI device is disconnected and reconnected.
*\tImproves PC card (generic serial communications) support, enhancing potential compatibility with third-party PC slot communications cards.
*\tReduces likelihood that a non-recommended display resolution and refresh rate could be chosen (resulting in a persistent black screen), when using certain Power Macintosh G4 (QuickSilver) computers with an AppleVision 750 or AppleVision 1710 display.
*\tImproves compatibility of Power Macintosh G3 (Desktop and Mini Tower) computers with ATI Radeon 7000 video cards.
*\tAdds support for LaCie Pocket CD-RW devices 16-10-40 U&I, and 8824 U&I
*\tImproves iSub frequency cutoff range.
*\tResolves a potential solid screen color issue, when using an nVidia GeForce 3 video card in a computer with 1 GB of RAM installed.
*\tAddresses various other potential nVidia video card issues.
*\tWhen using certain USB speakers, a mute setting is preserved more reliably after waking from sleep.

Application-related Enhancements

*\tReduces the time required to open optimized applications that use embedded frameworks.
*\tAddresses a potential stall issue that could occur while iTunes was finishing a CD burn.
*\tEnhances stability of Sherlock.
*\tAdds Image Capture support for certain recently-introduced Canon USB cameras.
*\tAddresses an isolated issue in which a Hanja text conversion could fail when using Korean Input Method.
*\tImproves Korean Input Method (Hanja) compatibility with AppleWorks 6.2.
*\tImproves Korean Input Method (Hanja) compatibility with Adobe Photoshop 7.0
*\tfsck_hfs (file system check) now works with Mac OS Extended format volumes larger than 1 TB.
*\tAddresses various potential Apple DVD Player issues.

Finder, Sleep, and System Settings Enhancements

*\tEnergy Saver now offers an advanced option, on compatible portable computers, to increase battery life by reducing processor performance while the computer is not used.
*\tResolves a potential issue in which audio may have become muted after waking from sleep.
*\tThe Sound preference pane may now be opened by pressing a Option-Volume key combination on an Apple Pro USB Keyboard.
*\tAddresses a potential situation in which the Finder may inaccurately report less available space on a blank disc, after ejecting a disc instead of burning new data to it.
*\tImproves performance of QuickTime movies played on a computer that uses an ATI Rage Pro graphics acceleration chip.
*\tAddresses various potential kernel panic situations.
*\tAddresses various potential video mirroring issues.

I thought this list did a good job of summing it all up in plain English and answered many users questions posted in this area.
post #74 of 89
So no one here is having problems?
MacFixIt/Macintouch keep reporting to stay away from the update :confused:
Is anyone here having any problems? PS fonts, monitor screwy when woken from sleep?
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post #75 of 89
nope... Although I am sorry you are experiencing such problems. Try uninstalling any third-party items, running fsck -y, running MacJanitor (the daily, weekly, monthly maintence items, and zapping your PRAM.
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[quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:
<strong>So no one here is having problems?</strong><hr></blockquote>Yes. Major, major problems. Read the previous page of this thread. I still have not solved my kernel panicing issue and I've even gone do far as to erase and reinstall. Everything was working perfectly fine until I installed 10.1.5 and than -- BLAMMO! Kernel panics all over again. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

Of course, the major problems like mine do seem to be few and far between. I'm just doling out my experience as words of warning so that if you do have problems I can always say I told ya' so.

[ 06-10-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
post #77 of 89
Due to StarfleetX's problems, I havven't upgraded my 450 DP. Anyone else who owns a comp from the PM GigE release should probably also wait. Starfleet is pretty good a fixing things and finding workarounds so if he can't fix it, I'll wait.

He's also not alone. There was someone who wrote that they had a KP on thier 450 DP on versiontracker.

Starfleet, best of luck! And thanks for keeping us updated.
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So no one here uses PostScript fonts? The reader reporters over at MacinTouch have determined that it is indeed all Apple's fault that PostScript fonts turn into garbage. Looks like we can't blame M$ for this one: The same thing happens when Silk is used instead of Word's own quartz smoothing option. Which is just as well, because hopefully Apple will release 10.1.6 soon.

Also, is there a limit to/what is the limit to how many fonts you can have in your Font folder?
And, I put a folder, with many nested folders, with thousands of fonts in it, into my Font folder, but NONE of the fonts were seen. Then, I put the contents of a subfolder directly in the Font folder, and they worked. Does this mean they ALL have to be in the Fonts folder, and I can't have any subfolders? Because that would be pretty f*cking stupid. And, PostScript fonts didn't seem to be "seen" be Word no matter what?
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post #79 of 89
Can someone PLEASE tell me what the font limit in OS X is? And Starfleet X, how's your 10.1.5?
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post #80 of 89
*bump*

Did everyone stay with 10.1.4?

Is or is not the rendering of PostScript Fonts messed up? And is there a font limit? The "Help" in MacOS X is a joke. Utter joke. That's a bug I may have to report to Apple.
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