Dear Media, Try Harder to Obscure being Totally in the Tank for Obama

Originally Posted by @_@ Artman



OT: Some in the media have quit to work for Obama, so what's with the shock?

Dear me, one of the candidates for president has become the media darling. Who saw this coming from an articulate, bright, clean and a nice-looking guy?

Originally Posted by mydo

I could argue that the media is helping McCain by ignoring him. That way all the insane comments and bizarre facial expressions are kept off the air.

What do you expect tump'? Obama is a rock star and McCain is the grumpy old neighbor calling the cops on the garage band next door.

Originally Posted by sslarson

Just so I understand the rules...if some thing is true or factual is it a "smear"?

Originally Posted by mydo


What do you expect tump'? Obama is a rock star

Originally Posted by @_@ Artman

As long as you can prove it.

Originally Posted by sslarson

Just so I understand the rules...if some thing is true or factual is it a "smear"?

Originally Posted by Northgate

This whole thread is a big pile of dog shit!!!

Every single aspect of it's premise is utter bullshit. McCain just had the worst week ever in his political life (last week) and he suffered ABSOLUTELY ZERO CONSEQUENCES. He didn't even fire Phil Gramm after calling Americans mental and suffering from psychological problems. The list goes on and on and on and on... Yet he got a giant stinking fucking PASS.

And then you start a thread like this. Are you fucking kidding me?

What was the media worried about last week? Obama's nuts. Whether or not Obama's was "only" going to raise $10M more than McCain and how that was a "baaaaaaad" thing. Wes Clark said something true and THE ENTIRE WORLD CAME TO A SCREECHING HALT.

Obama mentioned we ought to teach our kids more than one language. THE AUDACITY! THE ELITISMS! WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS! TRUE AMERICANS ONLY SPEAK ONE LANGUAGE GODDAMMIT!

But McCain can joke about killing Iranians with cigarettes and everyone giggles.

Trumpt, peddle your asinine BULLSHIT somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Northgate

Here's another GREAT EXAMPLE of the double-standard...

McCAIN ATTENDED ZERO AFGHANISTAN MEETINGS IN TWO YEARS!

But what does the press talk about? They talk about Obama not holding any hearings at the sub-committee level on Afghanistan. Of course it doesn't matter that Joe Biden chairs the full-committee and he wants all hearings on Afghanistan to be held at the full committee level.

So what's the common wisdom out there?

Obama is disinterested in Afghanistan. McCain is the "expert".

I love this new Up-Is-Down Universe. Weeeeeee!!!!!

Originally Posted by trumptman

Artman will post some pictures.

Originally Posted by trumptman

Fellowship will pop in with some platitudes.

Originally Posted by Fellowship

At least my "platitudes" are better than the phrases we hear from this admin. / neocon cheerleaders as well as yourself.


"They hate us for our freedoms"
"You are either with us or against us"
"freedom fries"
"cut and run"
"the surge is working"
"mental recession"
on and on...

The only difference Nick is that you subscribe to and drink neocon kool-aide.

Just admit what everyone already knows.

ohhh wait, you will never do that as it is some kind of game of yours you like to play around here.



Never mind.

Fellows

Originally Posted by trumptman

Wait... is it dog shit or bullshit?? I was going to vote for Obama if it was dogshit, but then I heard this rumor that it was bullshit and now... I can't vote for the guy.



To get more than zero consequences, he would have to have more than zero coverage. If the media weren't so busy humping Obama's leg, they could actually get some reporting done.



I'm masturbating kidding you.



I think Obama was a little worried about his nuts too. That Rainbow/Push coalition is a tough bunch.



Yeah I mean sure everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together understood that it is entirely reasonable to expect immigrants to assimilate BEFORE we all become cosmopolitan enough to not care like Obama is, only he isn't... but hey look another diversion to note the messiah isn't walking on water very well.



I do. However I am still confused, is it bullshit or dogshit? Also what do we call the replies of someone who relies to bullshit and dogshit? Are your replies the pure pooper scooper or pure poop bag?

Help me out here.

Help yourself out and start a new post so you can stop complaining about mine. Find some content, add something to it and post it here.

Jimmac will post some fragments that reflect his homeless nature.
Grove will curse at it and call you a pussy.
Shawn will show up and post something snarky if he isn't too drunk.
Northgate will post several rants in a row.
Oh wait, that is you.... um Addabox will post several rants in a row.
Fellowship will pop in with some platitudes.
Artman will post some pictures.
Jub will post some information and links.
I will post some information and links.
Brussell will post some information and links.
Midwinter will post some information and links..or might just be frustrated and post something snarky.

Rinse and repeat.

Originally Posted by trumptman

Jimmac will post some fragments that reflect his homeless nature.
Grove will curse at it and call you a pussy.
Shawn will show up and post something snarky if he isn't too drunk.
Northgate will post several rants in a row.
Oh wait, that is you.... um Addabox will post several rants in a row.
Fellowship will pop in with some platitudes.
Artman will post some pictures.
Jub will post some information and links.
I will post some information and links.
Brussell will post some information and links.
Midwinter will post some information and links..or might just be frustrated and post something snarky.

Originally Posted by trumptman

Oh Hassan, I do love that giggle of yours. Go run some bubbles in the tub love will you? I'll be in to shave your back in a minute.

Originally Posted by Northgate

It's classic Republican campaigning. It's makes me want to vomit.

Take your biggest weaknesses and thrust them on your opponent.

McCain is a flagrant serial flip-flopping panderer like none other. What do you do? Make Obama the one with the problem.

McCain's got a huge elitism problem being married to a mult-million dollar, credit card spending, jet airplane owning wife. What do you do? Make Obama the unforgivable elitist. Oh, and his wife is un-American to boot.

McCain's got a HUGE memory problem, can't keep Suni and Shia straight, mentions Czechoslovakia twice after being repeated corrected. What do you do. Make Obama the "gaffe machine".

It's fucking retarded.

And they do it every time.

And they're successful. The media goes right along with it.

AND OBAMA'S THE ONE WITH THE ADORING PRESS! STRAIGHT TALKER. MARVERICK. KILL ME NOW!

Originally Posted by SDW2001

• After vowing to eschew private fundraising and take public financing, he has now refused public money.

• Once he threatened to filibuster a bill to protect telephone companies from liability for their cooperation with national security wiretaps; now he has voted for the legislation.

• Turning his back on a lifetime of support for gun control, he now recognizes a Second Amendment right to bear arms in the wake of the Supreme Court decision.

• Formerly, he told the Israeli lobby that he favored an undivided Jerusalem. Now he says he didn’t mean it.

• From a 100 percent pro-choice position, he now has migrated to expressing doubts about allowing partial-birth abortions.

• For the first time, he now speaks highly of using church-based institutions to deliver public services to the poor.

• Having based his entire campaign on withdrawal from Iraq, he now pledges to consult with the military first.

• During the primary, he backed merit pay for teachers - but before the union a few weeks ago, he opposed it.

• After specifically saying in the primaries that he disagreed with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) proposal to impose Social Security taxes on income over $200,000 and wanted to tax all income, he has now adopted the Clinton position.



So elitism is defined by how rich one is? Has Cindy McCain ever said America is a mean country? Has she ever said she was proud of her country for the first time in her adult life?



And Obama doesn't know what Memorial Day is.



North, if you can't see the MSM is 100% in the tank for Obama, then you're frankly as bad as they are. I've never seen anything like it. It goes beyond liberal bias. They are absolutely cheerleading for the guy. Meanwhile, no one is allowed to ask Obama questions about anything. Hit him on an issue he doesn't want to talk about, and you're "playing the politics of the past." Ask an Obama supporter why he supports him, and you'll hear CHANGE! BUSH! WAR!
HOPE!

CHANGE!

That's what's fucking retarded...that we actually might elect this guy President of the United States.

BY LARRY HUNTER

Wednesday, July 16th 2008, 7:39 PM

I'm a lifelong Republican - a supply-side conservative. I worked in the Reagan White House. I was the chief economist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce for five years. In 1994, I helped write the Republican Contract with America. I served on Bob Dole's presidential campaign team and was chief economist for Jack Kemp's Empower America.

This November, I'm voting for Barack Obama.

When I first made this decision, many colleagues were shocked. How could I support a candidate with a domestic policy platform that's antithetical to almost everything I believe in?

The answer is simple: Unjustified war and unconstitutional abridgment of individual rights vs. ill-conceived tax and economic policies - this is the difference between venial and mortal sins.

Taxes, economic policy and health care reform matter, of course. But how we extract ourselves from the bloody boondoggle in Iraq, how we avoid getting into a war with Iran and how we preserve our individual rights while dealing with real foreign threats - these are of greater importance.

John McCain would continue the Bush administration's commitment to interventionism and constitutional overreach. Obama promises a humbler engagement with our allies, while promising retaliation against any enemy who dares attack us. That's what conservatism used to mean - and it's what George W. Bush promised as a candidate.

Plus, when it comes to domestic issues, I don't take Obama at his word. That may sound cynical. But the fact that he says just about all the wrong things on domestic issues doesn't bother me as much as it once would have. After all, the Republicans said all the right things - fiscal responsibility, spending restraint - and it didn't mean a thing. It is a sad commentary on American politics today, but it's taken as a given that politicians, all of them, must pander, obfuscate and prevaricate.

Besides, I suspect Obama is more free-market friendly than he lets on. He taught at the University of Chicago, a hotbed of right-of-center thought. His economic advisers, notably Austan Goolsbee, recognize that ordinary citizens stand to gain more from open markets than from government meddling. That's got to rub off.

When it comes to health care, I am hoping Obama quietly recognizes that a crusade against pharmaceutical companies would result in the opposite of any intended effect. And in any event, McCain's plans in this area are deeply problematic, too. Take drug reimportation. McCain (like Obama) says he's perfectly comfortable with this ill-conceived scheme, which would drive research and development dollars away from the next generation of miracle cures.

But overall, based on his embrace of centrist advisers and policies, it seems likely that Obama will turn out to be in the mold of John Kennedy - who was fond of noting that "a rising tide lifts all boats." Over the last few decades, economic growth has made Americans at every income level better off. For all his borderline pessimistic rhetoric, Obama knows this. And I believe he is savvy enough to realize that the real threat to middle-class families and the poor - an economic undertow that drags everyone down - cannot be counteracted by an activist government.

Or maybe not. But here's the thing: Even if my hopes on domestic policy are dashed and Obama reveals himself as an unreconstructed, dyed-in-the-wool, big-government liberal, I'm still voting for him.

These past eight years, we have spent over a trillion dollars on foreign soil - and lost countless lives - and done what I consider irreparable damage to our Constitution.

If economic damage from well-intentioned but misbegotten Obama economic schemes is the ransom we must pay him to clean up this foreign policy mess, then so be it. It's not nearly as costly as enduring four more years of what we suffered the last eight years.

Hunter is the former staff director of the Congressional Joint Economic Committee and president of the Social Security Institute.

This is why I love this guy. It's more revealing of the Obama I'm familiar with from my law school days than any of his big speeches -- although they're great too. Intellect without ideology. Clarity without glibness. Grounded on ends but flexible on means, and the fact of the matter wins the day. (Getting a diversity of opinion ensures you'll get the fact of the matter as best as it can be determined, and being a smart guy ensures you'll have the ability to sort those opinions out and make decisions.) I can't recall any major political figure talking like this.

By the way, he confirms in this interview my impressions of Obama that I've been trying to sell for some time on these boards. See for example the below comment from June 2:

"Obama is an FDR type of Democrat, except he's smarter. What I mean by that is that he doesn't subscribe to ideological policy orthodoxies. He's nimble. He wants to try things to help the working class, he trusts experts, and he doesn't want to do anything counterproductive. FDR was a pragmatist.

He didn't set out to "socialize" anything. In fact, his agenda had the effect of saving capitalism from itself. The two are similar in that they regard large-scale economic insecurity as an unacceptable problem and want to listen to all comers to address it. The sense in which Obama's "smarter" is that he is pretty savvy on the intellectual side of these issues, unlike FDR. He has the tools personally to make better choices.

If you want to know what sort of policies he'll like the sound of, I think he will be interested in those that move things in the right direction -- that is, toward increased economic security -- while preserving choice and entrepreneurship.

Examples: He'll like the sound of the EITC more than the minimum wage. He'll like the sound of automatic enrollment in a health care plan you can opt out of more than forced enrollment. He'll be skeptical of protectionism, but dig progressive taxation. At the same time, he'll seek federal investments that get a return on the dollar, such as in education, such as in new economies that can't be easily transported overseas.

His administration of the vast federal bureaucracies would, I'm betting, be neither liberally irrational nor neoconservatively irrational. Both approaches to business regulation are common, and Obama is the sort who will want to run the numbers on things like consumer safety, which is the only rational approach. (Otherwise, you're left with "do everything" vs. "do nothing," neither which is right.)

I think he's probably very much interested in protecting collective bargaining rights, and his NLRB would be a strong one."

Originally Posted by SDW2001


That's what's fucking retarded...that we actually might elect this guy President of the United States.

After vowing to eschew private fundraising and take public financing, he has now refused public money.

Once he threatened to filibuster a bill to protect telephone companies from liability for their cooperation with national security wiretaps; now he has voted for the legislation.

Turning his back on a lifetime of support for gun control, he now recognizes a Second Amendment right to bear arms in the wake of the Supreme Court decision.

Formerly, he told the Israeli lobby that he favored an undivided Jerusalem. Now he says he didn’t mean it.

From a 100 percent pro-choice position, he now has migrated to expressing doubts about allowing partial-birth abortions.

For the first time, he now speaks highly of using church-based institutions to deliver public services to the poor.

Having based his entire campaign on withdrawal from Iraq, he now pledges to consult with the military first.

During the primary, he backed merit pay for teachers - but before the union a few weeks ago, he opposed it.

After specifically saying in the primaries that he disagreed with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) proposal to impose Social Security taxes on income over $200,000 and wanted to tax all income, he has now adopted the Clinton position.

And Obama doesn't know what Memorial Day is.

Originally Posted by trumptman

Thanks for the link. Larry is an idiot. Here is why.

First the war is justified.

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