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"Nokia's European N61 phone is revered for its fantastic WiFi and VoIP features, but here in the US it's only sold as the crippled N61i, with support for neither."

Please try and keep your facts straight. Or try to have facts.

A: There is no N61, or N61i, however there is an E61 and E61i.
B: The Nokia E61 was primarily sold in Europe, although it was available on import sites
C: The Nokia E61 had WiFi and VoIP
D: The Nokia E61i is available stateside through importers and sites such as dell.com
E: The Nokia E61i also has WiFi and VoIP
F: The phone you are attempting to talk about that was crippled, was crippled by AT&T, it was AT&T branded, and it was sold exclusively through AT&T as the E62. It had a mini-usb port instead of the Nokia Pop-port (which couldn't charge the device), it had no wifi, and consequentially no VoIP.

If someone wanted the E61 and E61i, they could buy it from other venues.

I see no reason to ever buy from carriers anyways as they always load their handsets full of bloated branded garbage. This is the best way to tell carriers you'd rather not choose from their poor crippled handset selection. Alas, consumers don't do that, thus the situation we are put in.

All that said, for a carrier to support UMA they need back-end infrastructure to handle call handoff between the cell network and the wifi network, it's not something as simple as some magic app that you launch and presto, UMA. (Thus the two-number scenario mentioned in the article.) Anyone that's used T-mobile's UMA for any period of time has probably suffered at least a few instances of the service failing, being booted back to the cell network, dropped calls, firewalls closing down the audio to half the connection, etc. It's not a magic carrot.

Considering all this, the iPhone is especially refreshing, in that it doesn't have any of this carrier-branded cruft on it and you don't even need to go to a carrier store to buy it.
post #42 of 43
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Originally Posted by jnjnjn View Post

Ha ha, keep playing with your phone, if it is such a perfect device.
If you can't see the quality and the leap ahead the iPhone represents, it is not for you. You will be stuck with crappy software on a crappy device, wondering why everyone else is using an iPhone.
In this case I would say, it really really isn't hard to see the revolution coming.
A dozen apps in four years, versus one thousand in a few weeks, yeah, you must be right.

I even provided you links in my post to the Nokia and SE app stores yet you just spouted fanboy crap. IIRC there's over 20,000 applications in the Nokia store. sheesh!

The reason I'm still with my p910i is there's nothing significantly better available yet. I'll get an iPhone 3G when they've released it on PAYG here and sorted out the bugs in the 2.0.0 release. Daniel's list of missing features is a suitable bug list for starters. I agree the iPhone is 'revolutionary' but I still think it's buggy and missing features I need which I've got already on my p910i.
post #43 of 43
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Originally Posted by astrosmash View Post

A ridiculous puff piece that tries to pass misguided opinions as fact. What a total waste of time.

It saddens me to agree. But to have done enough research in the wireless space to know that the comment knocking T-Mobile's poor coverage is rubbish made me question the dozens of other statements I did not have similar background to confirm. So I am left with a lengthy articel about a product from my favorite company that is ultimaely worthless. Too bad, since so much of it seemed in the know to my eyes.
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