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post #41 of 219
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Originally Posted by morluk View Post

I am very disappointed with iphone for the following resasons

1. there is no copy and paste (unbelievable)
2. there is no any kind of search (another unbelievable)
3. if you are not subscribed call display even the caller in your contacts it doesn't show you the caller
4. there is no any desktop application to update calender and/or contacts, you have to have MS products (what a shame)

1 - you knew that before you bought it
2 - there's contact search (not too sure what you'd be searching for anyway)
3 - blame your provider because that's some crap
4 - buy a mac (Address Book and iCal work wonderfully with it)
post #42 of 219
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Originally Posted by rygriffin333 View Post

Still getting the patented "Safari cannot load the page because the page is not responding" error on 3G. Every. Time. Zero. Throughput.

Fucking brilliant.

(And I am in Manhattan. So please spare me the "do you have coverage?" question)

So.....

Do you have coverage?

[ducks behind steel wall]
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post #43 of 219
Sitting at my desk at home, I can now get 3G for the first time. However, my bars still occasionaly jump down to 1 from 5. We'll see how well it improves call dropping. I've had occasional call drops, usually immediately after dialing, so fortunately it hasn't been a big issue for me.

EDIT- seconds after hitting Post Reply on my desktop, my iPhone then displays "No service". I had to reboot.
post #44 of 219
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Originally Posted by morluk View Post

I am very disappointed with iphone for the following resasons

1. there is no copy and paste (unbelievable)
2. there is no any kind of search (another unbelievable)
3. if you are not subscribed call display even the caller in your contacts it doesn't show you the caller
4. there is no any desktop application to update calender and/or contacts, you have to have MS products (what a shame)

For #2 - what is it you are wanting to search? Perhaps the Google app would interest you (free)
For #3 - what country are you in? Here in the UK you don't have to specially subscribe to anything for that feature - I think that is more of a network thing.

Dare I say for #4 MobileMe?

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Originally Posted by mutant View Post

What were getting before the update?

Fluctuating - may well be coincidental.
post #45 of 219
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Originally Posted by morluk View Post

I am very disappointed with iphone for the following resasons

4. there is no any desktop application to update calender and/or contacts, you have to have MS products (what a shame)

Who needs MS? There is such a service called NuevaSync...'pushes' beautifully (pardon the pun)
post #46 of 219
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Originally Posted by mikedor View Post

I haven't even started the download, and my Safari is snappier

Could it be that AT&T updated something on their end as well?
post #47 of 219
Downloaded and backing up for the new load now.

2.0.1 fixed the spontaneous phone reboots, but apps still tended to crash. Some apps would reach a point of refusing to run until the phone itself was restarted. Hopefully 2.0.2 will keep apps from crashing as often or at least make them more consistent at restarting afterward. Each step brings a little more progress.
post #48 of 219
no re-setting up of mobile me has been necessary for me! last update made mobile me bugs worse, prompting a complete troubleshooting session (see http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1672)... contacts no longer constantly disappearing, lets hope 2.0.2 is a good one...

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Originally Posted by BuffyzDead View Post

It was not just a software update. I saw it state "Upgrading iPhone Firmware".

So let me see......

UPDATE:
OK...had 4 bars of 3G before...Have 4 bars of 3G after. No change there.
I did have to re-setup my two email accounts:
MobileMe
and
Yahoo.

Sense no difference at all, otherwise.
My iPhone always worked fine so at least it does not seem like that changed......
post #49 of 219
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Originally Posted by Mark W View Post

For #2 - what is it you are wanting to search? Perhaps the Google app would interest you (free)

What is the iPhone equivalent of Cmd-F in the full-blown versions of Safari and Mail?

BTW: The iPhone Google app looks like a privacy threat. Does anybody know?
post #50 of 219
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Originally Posted by jhatz768 View Post

You mind cleaning up your language?


No, seriously, are you worried your three-year-old is reading this forum? Don't even worry about your nine-year-old; his language when you are not around would make a soldier blush.
post #51 of 219
Contacts still has an annoying delay of 2-3 seconds after launch during which it's unresponsive. It also often opens at one location in the list, and then jumps to a different location upon being responsive.

After the update, my bars go to 11, which is one more than 10.
post #52 of 219
I want to be able to sync the iPhone Notes with Mac applications such as Mail or Entourage. Note syncing should be possible without having to pay for a MobileMe account.
post #53 of 219
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Originally Posted by iPeon View Post

Could it be that AT&T updated something on their end as well?

If the majority of the iPhones are backing up and installing the new point update then they are not sucking the carriers bandwidth. But that seems a very unlikely reason.
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post #54 of 219
Things feel more responsive after 2.0.2. Contacts seems better when first opening.

However, 3G is still flaky for me. I'm in the financial district of San Francisco at work. With the phone on my desk, I get 4 to 5 bars in 3G but then it'll randomly drop to EDGE and it usually will not go back to 3G unless I force it to (via airplane mode, turning 3G on or off, or powering the phone off and back on) - at which point it will pick up 4 to 5 bars again for a while before dropping to EDGE again. This is while it is sitting in one place on my desk.

My coworker sits a few feet away and has a Samsung Blackjack on AT&T without any 3G problems in the office.
post #55 of 219
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

I want to be able to sync the iPhone Notes with Mac applications such as Mail or Entourage. Note syncing should be possible without having to pay for a MobileMe account.

Note Syncing with MobileMe does not sync to your iPhone. It's like most of the syncing options with MM on a Mac. It's basically cloud storage that will sync to your other Macs and that is it.

It is pretty lame that this feature which was introduced in Leopard Mail does not work with the iPhone.
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post #56 of 219
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Originally Posted by Foo2 View Post

Contacts still has an annoying delay of 2-3 seconds after launch during which it's unresponsive. It also often opens at one location in the list, and then jumps to a different location upon being responsive.

After the update, my bars go to 11, which is one more than 10.

I don't think that that is a defect.

Most iPhone apps have a startup delay - some throw up a splash screen to cover the true load time.

Likely, Contacts is just loading a small portion of the data and displaying it until it has the full contact list loaded.

Do you have a large contact list?
post #57 of 219
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Originally Posted by woofpup View Post

However, 3G is still flaky for me. I'm in the financial district of San Francisco at work. With the phone on my desk, I get 4 to 5 bars in 3G but then it'll randomly drop to EDGE and it usually will not go back to 3G unless I force it to. This is while it is sitting in one place on my desk.

My coworker sits a few feet away and has a Samsung Blackjack on AT&T without any 3G problems in the office.

Apple would have made a big deal out of any 3G improvements, so if there are some who notice an improvement it may be some slight adjustment that Apple did-- but my guess is we will hear of the Infineon tweak sometime later.
post #58 of 219
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Originally Posted by Leithal View Post

I don't think that that is a defect.

I believe few would people argue that the jumping isn't a defect. And in my book, not being responsive when the display looks like it's ready, is a defect.

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Most iPhone apps have a startup delay - some throw up a splash screen to cover the true load time.

The Phone app has virtually no startup delay.

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Likely, Contacts is just loading a small portion of the data and displaying it until it has the full contact list loaded.

Do you have a large contact list?

Just under 500. Big but not gigantic. I'm sure the data are stored in a database after all.
post #59 of 219
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Originally Posted by Morky View Post


No, seriously, are you worried your three-year-old is reading this forum? Don't even worry about your nine-year-old; his language when you are not around would make a soldier blush.

So...

1) When will you be 10 years old?

2) Print this out and have a teacher, parent, friend, etc. mail it back to you in ten years. Perhaps by then you will have developed a vocabulary.
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post #60 of 219
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No, seriously, are you worried your three-year-old is reading this forum? Don't even worry about your nine-year-old; his language when you are not around would make a soldier blush.

Lol, good form.

Back to the topic, here almost in the middle of London (Notting Hill/Bayswater) my iPhone's 3G bars are constantly jumping up an down from 1 to 5 and back like (I presume) Dick Cheney's heart on 5 Red Bulls ... Furthermore, the 3G signal is being very frequently replaced by Edge even as I am strolling quietly around my flat. The situation is no better at the flagship Apple store itself (on Regent street) - it was almost embarrassing to watch an Apple presenter swapping 3G for wifi during an iPhone presentation; the chap mumbled the usual mantra 'thanking o2 for that connection' but I doubt more and more that the network operator is in fact to blame ...

Also true that the iPod function usually interferes with web-surfing (and vice versa) - have had quite a few 'broken records' while trying only these 2 functionalities at once ...

In addition, did you notice that the GPS has an allarming tendency to be 'unable to determine your current location'? For me, it happens nine times out of ten ... And I'm not doing it in my basement, if you would like to ask.

Plus, many outside apps (such as the Facebook chat) break down almost constantly for no apparent reason, and yet again I have a suspicion it may not be (at least solely) Facebook's or other developers' fault ...

And iPhone's Bluetooth capabilities and its battery life - don't even get me started ...

Finally, Apple, are you going to address the total travesty that is the iPhone's genocide of custom ringtones and its collection of factory ringtones that is worthy of any respectable mobile phone circa 1994 ... And please, spare me the usual 'legal/illegal ... copyright' bullshit this time ...

And what is copy/paste, by the way? Personally, never heard of such a groundbreaking functionality.
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post #61 of 219
Mod Edit:

No.

MacRR Edit:

Yes.

Fuck all y'all
post #62 of 219
I updated, my 3G went from 0-1 bars to 2-3 bars.

Perhaps the fix is in, but won't be evident until more people on the network update. Perhaps the 2.0.1 users' chips are running wild and wreaking havoc on the 3G network. I say give it a couple days (weeks?) to determine if it's fixed or not.
post #63 of 219
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Originally Posted by morluk View Post

I am very disappointed with iphone for the following resasons

1. there is no copy and paste (unbelievable)

TRUE

2. there is no any kind of search (another unbelievable)

YOU CAN SEARCH CONTACTS

3. if you are not subscribed call display even the caller in your contacts it doesn't show you the caller

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS. IF I PICK A PICTURE IT FOR A CONTACT IT DISPLAYS THAT. IF I DON'T IT STILL DISPLAYS THE CALLER'S NAME & NUMBER


4. there is no any desktop application to update calender and/or contacts, you have to have MS products (what a shame)


THEY ARE CALLED "ical" AND "Address Book"


Do you even HAVE an iphone ??? Seriously, do you ?
post #64 of 219
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Originally Posted by afx114 View Post

I updated, my 3G went from 0-1 bars to 2-3 bars.

Perhaps the fix is in, but won't be evident until more people on the network update. Perhaps the 2.0.1 users' chips are running wild and wreaking havoc on the 3G network. I say give it a couple days (weeks?) to determine if it's fixed or not.

I say the time is too short for a proper 3G fix. They could have easily upped the radio power but we don't we even know if that is an issue. Plus, despite Apple's rapid fixes the timeframe seems too short for this issue to be resolved and I agree with rjwill246 that Apple would have probably advertised this as a particular fix in this update.
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post #65 of 219
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Originally Posted by Foo2 View Post

What is the iPhone equivalent of Cmd-F in the full-blown versions of Safari and Mail?

BTW: The iPhone Google app looks like a privacy threat. Does anybody know?

I'm no expert. But I tend to believe anything from google qualifies as a privacy threat.
post #66 of 219
I was kind of expecting the 2.0.2 update to have more localizations, but I don't see any on my iPod Touch. Nonetheless, I'm guessing the update has something to do with the additional carriers that will be available this week.
post #67 of 219
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Originally Posted by Booga View Post

I was kind of expecting the 2.0.2 update to have more localizations, but I don't see any on my iPod Touch. Nonetheless, I'm guessing the update has something to do with the additional carriers that will be available this week.

Interesting thought. That would make sense.

v2.0.1 has languages for...
English
Français
Deutsch
Japanese
Netherlands
Italiano
Español
Português (Brazil)
Português (Portugal)
Dansk
Norsk (bokmål)
Svenska
Korean (?)
Chinese (?)
Chinese (?)
Pyccknñ
Polski

Anything else listed for v2.0.2?
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post #68 of 219
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Originally Posted by 8CoreWhore View Post

I'll skip this placebo (and what ever NEW bugs it introduces).

this is just annoying. I wish everyone would stop saying snappier because it's not snappier it's in your head. And the word snappier Is really gay. I hate that apple doesn't give details. These non detail messages make me not want to waste the time installing another update that does nothing
post #69 of 219
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Originally Posted by Daniel0418 View Post

These non detail messages make me not want to waste the time installing another update that does nothing

So not breaking down the details of the bug fixes now means that there are no bug fixes? Definitely not the snappiest assessment I've read.
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post #70 of 219
When will they offer the ability to search e-mail as well as mark all e-mail as read? Is it part of this update?
post #71 of 219
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Originally Posted by erpx View Post

When will they offer the ability to search e-mail as well as mark all e-mail as read? Is it part of this update?

Nope. Marking all email as read would be nice, but the search may be difficult as the Mail app only keeps 20 messages on the phone at a time.
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post #72 of 219
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Originally Posted by Morky View Post

No, seriously, are you worried your three-year-old is reading this forum? Don't even worry about your nine-year-old; his language when you are not around would make a soldier blush.

I'm not worried about anyone's children, I'm concerned that you have so little regard for the civility which we should expect from eachother that you can't help but rub your dirty little mouth all over the internet, not in the toilet where your language belongs.
post #73 of 219
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Originally Posted by stonefree View Post

Sitting at my desk at home, I can now get 3G for the first time. However, my bars still occasionaly jump down to 1 from 5. We'll see how well it improves call dropping. I've had occasional call drops, usually immediately after dialing, so fortunately it hasn't been a big issue for me.

EDIT- seconds after hitting Post Reply on my desktop, my iPhone then displays "No service". I had to reboot.



You don't have to reboot, just wait 3 to 4 minutes and you'll get 4 -5 bars and then it'll repeat. I had this happen at home just after the 2.0.1 update. But it seemed to go away after a day or so. When I'm at home I turn off 3G since service isn't too great.
post #74 of 219
My assessment is that it hasn't made a blind bit of difference to anything.

Ridiculously simple apps such as Clock still take 2-3 seconds to open, leaving me gawping at the screen like an idiot just to see what the time is in Dubai. Contacts is still unresponsive for a good couple of seconds (I don't have a big database) and Weather loads about as fast as it would on an Macintosh Classic.

Can ANYONE tell me why these BASIC apps should be SO SLOW opening?

_______________
iPhone 3G 16gb
post #75 of 219
Phone worked great before, works great now.

LOL @ the guy complaining about not being able to copy and paste. Download the SDK and get on it, sport.
post #76 of 219
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Originally Posted by Leithal View Post

I don't think that that is a defect.

Most iPhone apps have a startup delay - some throw up a splash screen to cover the true load time.

Likely, Contacts is just loading a small portion of the data and displaying it until it has the full contact list loaded.

Do you have a large contact list?

This is a major defect because there wasn't any lag under 1.1.4. If it wasn't for a few cool apps, I would gladly downgrade my phone to 1.1.4 for the responsiveness that it once had. As another pointed out, the contacts will start at a part of the list that you were not browsing before, then after a few seconds, jump to your last location.
post #77 of 219
This update has now caused my battery icon to act erratic. I had no problems with it charging before but now when I charge it, and it says it's charged, then suddenly it will go back to showing it's charging again. Very weird. Anyone else having this issue?
post #78 of 219
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Originally Posted by justflybob View Post

So.....

Do you have coverage?

[ducks behind steel wall]

Can you hear me now?
AT&T sucks.
post #79 of 219
I can't believe all the problems I'm reading on here tonight- is it all that bad?-really?
...waiting for my new non-phone iPod touch and loving it!
This is so entertaining - all the threads on here, all these months, devoted to the iPhone and it all comes down to this??
post #80 of 219
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Originally Posted by Leithal View Post

I don't think that that is a defect.

Most iPhone apps have a startup delay - some throw up a splash screen to cover the true load time.

Likely, Contacts is just loading a small portion of the data and displaying it until it has the full contact list loaded.

Do you have a large contact list?

What is large? Personally, mine is about 175 contacts and no photos in them, which really doesn't sound like should be a problem that gives noticeable lag in loading, but it did. That said, 2.0.2 seems to have almost eliminated the lag between appearing to be functional and actually being functional, which I think is a UI gaffe. It may take just as long to start, but it does not show a list of contacts until it's ready to let you do anything with that list.

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Originally Posted by Foo2 View Post

BTW: The iPhone Google app looks like a privacy threat. Does anybody know?

Any web service, any company that you give information is a privacy threat. As it is, Google doesn't seem to be selling or trading uniquely identifiable information right now.

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Originally Posted by Daniel0418 View Post

this is just annoying. I wish everyone would stop saying snappier because it's not snappier it's in your head. And the word snappier Is really gay. I hate that apple doesn't give details. These non detail messages make me not want to waste the time installing another update that does nothing

Isn't declaring something gay being really... ...gay? How meta is that?

Contacts did change how it starts a bit, whether it's a mind trick (see above), I'm not totally certain, but it's less frustrating now. Instead of showing you a clipping of the contacts scroller, it doesn't show you a list until it's actually ready to let you pick a contact or scroll through the list.
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