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post #481 of 836
9/10/08 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by franksargent View Post

Palin changed the rules, the rules did not remain the same, by raising state tax rates on oil, by making the existing oil tax law with higher tax brackets relative to the preexisting laws. That's a bone fide known fact.

Windfall profits tax



Does the last quote above in bold sound even vaguely familiar to Alaskan oil tax law?

It sure as heck does to me.

Your continued twisting in the wind has now been fully addressed.

This case in now definitely closed. \

The case is closed indeed. Your own link notes that calling what Palin did or supported a windfall profits tax is a MISNOMER. It notes the difference as should you. It specifically states it is not a windfall but an excise tax and thus anyone claiming she supports a windfall tax is guilty of not acknowleging the misnomer.

Definition of misnomer...

A misnomer is a term which suggests an interpretation that is known to be untrue.

Thus calling what Palin did a windfall profits tax is using an interpretation that is known to be untrue.

Twist away baby, twist away.

Game, set match. Done.

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post #482 of 836
9/10/08 at 3:41pm
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McCain said that he'd make the big pork profiteers famous. He's just keeping his promise by selecting the biggest pork-lovin' governor as his running mate.

She sure is famous now!
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post #483 of 836
9/10/08 at 3:52pm
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The case is closed indeed. Your own link notes that calling what Palin did or supported a windfall profits tax is a MISNOMER. It notes the difference as should you. It specifically states it is not a windfall but an excise tax and thus anyone claiming she supports a windfall tax is guilty of not acknowleging the misnomer.

Definition of misnomer...

A misnomer is a term which suggests an interpretation that is known to be untrue.

Thus calling what Palin did a windfall profits tax is using an interpretation that is known to be untrue.

Twist away baby, twist away.

Game, set match. Done.

Sorry, but it was called the Crude Oil Windfall Profit Tax Act for a reason.

And it is the exact same same thing that Palin did, changed the rules, and raised oil tax revenues relative to previous Alaskan oil tax laws.

In every sense of the word I win and you lose.

You can now stop twisting in your own backfiring wind.

See you, don't want to be you.

Game. Set. Match.
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post #484 of 836
9/10/08 at 3:59pm
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Sorry, but it was called the Crude Oil Windfall Profit Tax Act for a reason.

And it is the exact same same thing that Palin did, changed the rules, and raised oil tax revenues relative to previous Alaskan oil tax laws.

In every sense of the word I win and you lose.

You can now stop twisting in your own backfiring wind.

See you, don't want to be you.

Game. Set. Match.

I guess you have discredited your own source then.

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In 1980, the United States enacted the Crude Oil Windfall Profit Tax Act (P.L. 96-223) as part of a compromise between the Carter Administration and the Congress over the decontrol of crude oil prices. The Act was intended to recover the profits earned by oil producers as a result of the sharp increase in oil prices brought about by the OPEC oil embargo. According to the Congressional Research Service, the Act's title was a misnomer. "Despite its name, the crude oil windfall profit tax . . . was not a tax on profits. It was an excise tax . . . imposed on the difference between the market price of oil, which was technically referred to as the removal price, and a statutory 1979 base price that was adjusted quarterly for inflation and state severance taxes." [1] The following history of the Act's enactment and repeal is drawn from the same CRS report.

You can now again stop addressing the strawman. Please quote for me anyone on this board arguing that Palin did not raise this excise tax. No one has ever claimed that. What has been claimed is that Palin supports a windfall profits tax because she raised the excise tax. The claim is that she supports what Obama wanted to do. Obama wanted to tax profits, not raise the excise tax. The two are not the same. Your own link supports this. It calls anyone who contends this as being misleading.

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post #485 of 836
9/10/08 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by trumptman View Post

I guess you have discredited your own source then.



You can now again stop addressing the strawman. Please quote for me anyone on this board arguing that Palin did not raise this excise tax. No one has ever claimed that. What has been claimed is that Palin supports a windfall profits tax because she raised the excise tax. The claim is that she supports what Obama wanted to do. Obama wanted to tax profits, not raise the excise tax. The two are not the same. Your own link supports this. It calls anyone who contends this as being misleading.

What claims? I don't know what Obama will enact if elected, and neither do you, that's called the future, all campaighn promises aside. What actually happens is TBD. The Palin model is exactly what the federal government has done in the past, that is all that can be claimed right now, in the present.

I was the one who posted the original entire quote, go figure.

I also read the entire quote and fully understand it, go figure.

This case is closed, and it remains closed, go figure.

Go play your games of semantics on someone else, because for me it's GAME OVER.

Go figure. \
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post #486 of 836
9/10/08 at 4:35pm
No problem Frank. I got burned by a government website. You got burned by the title.

Reuters

I'm not guessing. I'm taking the man at his word.

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post #487 of 836
9/10/08 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by trumptman View Post

No problem Frank. I got burned by a government website. You got burned by the title.

Reuters

I'm not guessing. I'm taking the man at his word.

What government website?

You appear to be stuck on one word, profit, however I'm not stuck on one word or it's strict interpretation thereof, particularly in an election cycle.

What was enacted in the past was an excise tax titled the Crude Oil Windfall Profits Tax Act.

We know what it was called then and we know what it actually meant then.

Given what the federal government once did, and that Alaska has done the exact same thing, strongly suggests, that a similar policy would in fact be implemented in the future by the federal government, if ever.

It means the exact same thing today as it did then, and how it was copied and subsequently raised significantly in Alaska under Palin.
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post #488 of 836
10/22/08 at 6:20am
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No matter what Palin turns out to be, and I don't want to prejudge her, what on earth does that kind of decision-making process say about John McCain as a potential president of the United States?

Goddam I love being right.

Palin is failin'.

The #1 drag on the McCain ticket.

America hates her.
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post #489 of 836
10/22/08 at 6:39am
Pre-marital sex is just a passing fad.

But hypocrisy is here to stay.
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post #490 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:02pm
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Pre-marital sex is just a passing fad.

But hypocrisy is here to stay.

So is stupidity,
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This is too much. Sarah Palin gave a policy speech today in which she claimed that she wanted more support for children with disabilities, more tools to test for disorders, and while also decrying the expense of scientific research.

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Where does a lot of that earmark money end up anyway? [] You've heard about some of these pet projects they really don't make a whole lot of sense and sometimes these dollars go to projects that have little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not.

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This idiot woman, this blind, shortsighted ignoramus, this pretentious clod, mocks basic research and the international research community.

This is where the Republican party has ended up: supporting an ignorant buffoon who believes in the End Times and speaking in tongues while deriding some of the best and most successful strategies for scientific research. In this next election, we've got to choose between the 21st century rationalism and Dark Age inanity. It ought to be an easy choice.

Seriously trumptman, what the fuck were you thinking when McCain's pick pushed you to vote for him/her?
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post #491 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:11pm
Just so everyone is aware... Fruit flies are THE model system for a great deal of developmental biology research -- research that has direct applications (since the genes are basically the same) in human development and disease.

Someone needs to tell the idiots writing Palin's speeches that they ought to investigate the studies they mock before they castigate them for being wasteful...

This actually has me enraged. If their policy decisions on going to based upon what makes the best sound bite, we are fucked if they win.
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post #492 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:22pm
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Just so everyone is aware... Fruit flies are THE model system for a great deal of developmental biology research -- research that has direct applications (since the genes are basically the same) in human development and disease.

Someone needs to tell the idiots writing Palin's speeches that they ought to investigate the studies they mock before they castigate them for being wasteful...

Yeah but but but Paris.... the one in France!
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post #493 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:25pm
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Just so everyone is aware... Fruit flies are THE model system for a great deal of developmental biology research -- research that has direct applications (since the genes are basically the same) in human development and disease.

Someone needs to tell the idiots writing Palin's speeches that they ought to investigate the studies they mock before they castigate them for being wasteful...

You can't possibly think Palin is blameless or do you think someone told her to say stupid stuff like dinosaurs lived with man because she saw human footprints on top of dinosaurs footprints.

If you do, that's another reason to question her intelligence, reliance, on advisors.

It's called willful ignorance, otherwise wouldn't you want to know why money is being wasted on what you perceive to be wasted spending before you make a fool out of yourself?

She's speaking to the dumbasses that buy the bullshit and is to stupid to realize there aren't enough of them to get McCain elected.

But then, Bush got elected twice.
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post #494 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:44pm
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You can't possibly think Palin is blameless or do you think someone told her to say stupid stuff like dinosaurs lived with man because she saw human footprints on top of dinosaurs footprints.

If you do, that's another reason to question her intelligence, reliance, on advisors.

It's called willful ignorance, otherwise wouldn't you want to know why money is being wasted on what you perceive to be wasted spending before you make a fool out of yourself?

She's speaking to the dumbasses that buy the bullshit and is to stupid to realize there aren't enough of them to get McCain elected.

But then, Bush got elected twice.

I think that's true.

Either Palin is too ignorant to understand the role fruit flies play in basic research or she knows, but doesn't care. Just because "Fruit flies, har har har" strikes her as a winning line.

Just like "Drill, baby, drill" and "Pals around with terrorists" and "Thanks but no thanks" and on and on. Stupid little sound bites that don't hold up to even the most cursory scrutiny.

If she runs in 2012, her campaign slogan should be "If you're stupid and you know it, clap your hands."
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post #495 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:57pm
screener... I have no respect for Palin's intellectual abilities -- my comment was that these little statements aren't coming from her since that would require her to know something about government. She doesn't; they aren't.

As for Palin's abilities to Politic... that's a different story -- although the more I see her speak the less i am convinced that she can just deliver lines and appeal to the schadenfreude of the crowd; this is by far her most overrated ability. So that leaves catwalking... nice...
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post #496 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:57pm
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I think that's true.

Either Palin is too ignorant to understand the role fruit flies play in basic research or she knows, but doesn't care. Just because "Fruit flies, har har har" strikes her as a winning line.

Just like "Drill, baby, drill" and "Pals around with terrorists" and "Thanks but no thanks" and on and on. Stupid little sound bites that don't hold up to even the most cursory scrutiny.

If she runs in 2012, her campaign slogan should be "If you're stupid and you know it, clap your hands."

She's got to know, she supports research that use fruit flies, autism for example.

She's talking to the dumbasses.

Her belief is, there are enough of them and because Obama isn't running away in the polls, she may be right.
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post #497 of 836
10/25/08 at 12:59pm
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screener... I have no respect for Palin's intellectual abilities -- my comment was that these little statements aren't coming from her since that would require her to know something about government. She doesn't; they aren't.

As for Palin's abilities to Politic... that's a different story -- although the more I see her speak the less i am convinced that she can just deliver lines and appeal to the schadenfreude of the crowd; this is by far her most overrated ability. So that leaves catwalking... nice...

See my response to addabox.
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post #498 of 836
10/25/08 at 1:00pm
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See my response to addabox.

No. She doesn't know.

She is one of the dumbasses.
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10/25/08 at 1:10pm
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She's got to know, she supports research that use fruit flies, autism for example.

She's talking to the dumbasses.

Her belief is, there are enough of them and because Obama isn't running away in the polls, she may be right.

I think her historic reasons for imagining she might be right depend on a fairly passive opponent. For far to long, Democratic candidates have treated bullshit like this as beneath contempt.

If Obama needed a boost, you can rest assure he would make this an issue. Something like "Here we have a woman who doesn't understand how basic research is done. If she were president, we could expect her to cut funding without having any idea what she was doing, just because Joe the Plumber doesn't think something like "fruit flies" are important. America can't afford that kind of willful ignorance."

As it stands, Palin's approval ratings speak for themselves. As far as Obama running away with the polls, he seems to be doing fine. There are always going to be about 30% of the population that would vote Republican if they ran a dead cat. McCain/Palin seem to be intend on whittling the party down to that group alone.
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10/25/08 at 1:15pm
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I think her historic reasons for imagining she might be right depend on a fairly passive opponent. For far to long, Democratic candidates have treated bullshit like this as beneath contempt.

If Obama needed a boost, you can rest assure he would make this an issue. Something like "Here we have a woman who doesn't understand how basic research is done. If she were president, we could expect her to cut funding without having any idea what she was doing, just because Joe the Plumber doesn't think something like "fruit flies" are important. America can't afford that kind of willful ignorance."

As it stands, Palin's approval ratings speak for themselves. As far as Obama running away with the polls, he seems to be doing fine. There are always going to be about 30% of the population that would vote Republican if they ran a dead cat. McCain/Palin seem to be intend on whittling the party down to that group alone.

I take one exception to your speech:

"Here we have a woman who doesn't understand how basic research is done. If she were president, we could expect her to cut funding without having any idea what she was doing, just because Sarah Palin doesn't think something like "fruit flies" are important. America can't afford that kind of willful ignorance." And then a line about how it is not any politicians place to judge the technical merits of a field of knowledge.
etc etc... Turn the criticism onto himself, and then all politicians...
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post #501 of 836
10/25/08 at 1:16pm
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No. She doesn't know.

She is one of the dumbasses.

Maybe so,
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Ben Smith reported that, Four Republicans close to Palin said she has decided increasingly to disregard the advice of the former Bush aides tasked to handle her, creating occasionally tense situations as she travels the country with them. The article goes on to say that the Alaska governor blames her handlers for a botched rollout and a tarnished public image.

You may be right, but not about the speechwriters, they couldn't possibly not know about our friends the fruit flies, could they?
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post #502 of 836
10/25/08 at 1:19pm
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Maybe so,
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...mpaign-strife/

You may be right, but not about the speechwriters, they couldn't possibly not know about our friends the fruit flies, could they?

Not the technical details, no... Which is why the speech was botched... I suspect they are getting their talking points from an anti-earmark/anti-government research site -- it is really quite simple to quickly find a sound bite on a lot of those sites...
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10/25/08 at 1:22pm
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I take one exception to your speech:

"Here we have a woman who doesn't understand how basic research is done. If she were president, we could expect her to cut funding without having any idea what she was doing, just because Sarah Palin doesn't think something like "fruit flies" are important. America can't afford that kind of willful ignorance." And then a line about how it is not any politicians place to judge the technical merits of a field of knowledge.
etc etc... Turn the criticism onto himself, and then all politicians...

Yes, you're right about that. Implicating Joe the Plumber would be unwise, since conveying the idea that pretending to have a fictional character vet one's policy is idiotic is too complicated to get into a sound bite.

In fact, I can barely understand what I just wrote. Curse you, postmodern Republicanism!
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post #504 of 836
10/25/08 at 1:33pm
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Curse you, postmodern Republicanism!

I suspect we've seen the end of it, nevertheless.
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10/25/08 at 1:50pm
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I suspect we've seen the end of it, nevertheless.

Next she'll be complaining about pea research at a German monastery...
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10/25/08 at 2:01pm
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Next she'll be complaining about pea research at a German monastery...

Or dog research in Russia.

But believe you me, Stanley Milgram and Phil Zimbardo are safe in a Palin administration!
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10/25/08 at 5:53pm
CNN has some "rogue Palin" coverage as well

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Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says

ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate.

They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the campaign defended their use.

Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan.

A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."
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post #508 of 836
10/26/08 at 3:03pm
The Anchorage Daily News (largest newspaper in Alaska) has endorsed Obama for President...

Of course they talk up Palin and place the criticism on McSame, but I still got a kick out of it!

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Gov. Palin's nomination clearly alters the landscape for Alaskans as we survey this race for the presidency -- but it does not overwhelm all other judgment. The election, after all is said and done, is not about Sarah Palin, and our sober view is that her running mate, Sen. John McCain, is the wrong choice for president at this critical time for our nation.

Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee, brings far more promise to the office. In a time of grave economic crisis, he displays thoughtful analysis, enlists wise counsel and operates with a cool, steady hand. The same cannot be said of Sen. McCain.
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post #509 of 836
10/30/08 at 5:41am
Palin doesn't understand why women don't support her more nor why many find she isn't qualified.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politi...6142799&page=1

Gee, I wonder.

 

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10/31/08 at 2:13pm
Palin believes that the media is infringing on her First Amendment rights when they (exercise theirs and) criticize her negative attacks on Obama.

With a comment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_139729.html

The original from ABC:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...fears-med.html

She wishes for the press just to print what they say and not comment upon it. Who is she criticizing about not seeing Amerika as "we do"?

 

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10/31/08 at 2:27pm
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Palin believes that the media is infringing on her First Amendment rights when they (exercise theirs and) criticize her negative attacks on Obama.

With a comment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_139729.html

The original from ABC:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...fears-med.html

She wishes for the press just to print what they say and not comment upon it. Who is she criticizing about not seeing Amerika as "we do"?

I imagine she's laying the groundwork for her run in 2012. That will apparently hinge on going all in on the autistic bubble theory of tribal identification.

While the right has used "liberal media" as a rallying cry for a while, I don't think we've yet seen a national figure be so explicit about rejecting what most folks experience as consensual America. She wants to be queen of a cult of angry people who don't believe anything at all about the world outside of what the self-reinforcing rage machine tells them.

I think that's why a certain group are responding to Palin so strongly-- she doesn't pretend to any lingering loyalty to "the other" America, and they know she is one of theirs. There's a reason she and her husband have close ties to a radical separatist group, which itself has ties to various white supremacist and para-military militias.

If she does, in fact, emerge as some kind of locus of power in the Republican Party, it's going to interesting to see which wins out: her will to power or her stubborn ignorance and self-satisfied arrogance.

The former would guide her towards moderation and a willingness to learn, while the latter would keep her confident that extremist know-nothingism is exactly what's called for.
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10/31/08 at 2:29pm
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i imagine she's laying the groundwork for her run in 2012. That will apparently hinge on going all in on the autistic bubble theory of tribal identification.

While the right has used "liberal media" as a rallying cry for a while, i don't think we've yet seen a national figure be so explicit about rejecting what most folks experience as consensual america. She wants to be queen of a cult of angry people who don't believe anything at all about the world outside of what the self-reinforcing rage machine tells them.

I think that's why a certain group are responding to palin so strongly-- she doesn't pretend to any lingering loyalty to "the other" america, and they know she is one of theirs. There's a reason she and her husband have close ties to a radical separatist group, which itself has ties to various white supremacist and para-military militias.

If she does, in fact, emerge as some kind of locus of power in the republican party, it's going to interesting to see which wins out: Her will to power or her stubborn ignorance and self-satisfied arrogance.

The former would guide her towards moderation and a willingness to learn, while the latter would keep her confident that extremist know-nothingism is exactly what's called for.

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post #513 of 836
10/31/08 at 2:30pm
It sure would be nice to have an Administration that understands or at least appreciates science. The fly remark was so blatantly ignorant. McCain and Palin are appealing to morons. Joe the freaking plumber? WTF
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post #514 of 836
10/31/08 at 2:55pm
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My dream scenario:

1. McCain and Palin lose
2. Palin goes back to Alaska, and runs for another term as governor, but this time as an Alaskan separatist.
3. All the Palin supporters move to Alaska and vote her in.
4. Alaska forms its own country, and all the Palin supporters renounce their US citizenship, and the federal government lets them go peacefully.
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post #515 of 836
10/31/08 at 3:03pm
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My dream scenario:

1. McCain and Palin lose
2. Palin goes back to Alaska, and runs for another term as governor, but this time as an Alaskan separatist.
3. All the Palin supporters move to Alaska and vote her in.
4. Alaska forms its own country, and all the Palin supporters renounce their US citizenship, and the federal government lets them go peacefully.

I'm guessing there would quite a few Southerners who would find it difficult to acclimate. Maybe the good ole boys and the snow-billies could duke it out for who gets to be the capital of Palintopia. Seeings as how they're in opposite corners of the continent, the battle would be hilariously slow and ruinously expensive, which should keep them out of our hair for a while.
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post #516 of 836
11/1/08 at 6:04am
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I'm guessing there would quite a few Southerners who would find it difficult to acclimate. Maybe the good ole boys and the snow-billies could duke it out for who gets to be the capital of Palintopia. Seeings as how they're in opposite corners of the continent, the battle would be hilariously slow and ruinously expensive, which should keep them out of our hair for a while.

Palintopia

The land of Guns and Bibles!
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post #517 of 836
11/1/08 at 9:42am
She lives in a cartoon US of A ruled over by the ghost of Ronald Reagan and a blue-eyed Jesus who wears red, white and blue robes and tools around heaven on a snowmobile accompanied by his pet bald eagle Sam on a mission to cure gays and smite godless Muslims aided by an army of babies saved from abortion at the last minute and raised in giant Alaskan igloos heated by camp fires fueled by burning books. Amen. wink!
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post #518 of 836
11/1/08 at 10:47am
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She lives in a cartoon US of A ruled over by the ghost of Ronald Reagan and a blue-eyed Jesus who wears red, white and blue robes and tools around heaven on a snowmobile accompanied by his pet bald eagle Sam on a mission to cure gays and smite godless Muslims aided by an army of babies saved from abortion at the last minute and raised in giant Alaskan igloos heated by camp fires fueled by burning books. Amen. wink!

ROTFLMAO


Thanks, Artman.

 

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post #519 of 836
11/1/08 at 11:45am
Evidently they eat their own!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...t-palin-rally/

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McCain's name nowhere to be seen at Palin rally

Let's see McSame tries to serperate himself from Bush and now his running mate is trying her own brand of seperation.


Indicative of what's going on for the GOP.
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post #520 of 836
11/1/08 at 11:52am
Separate but not equal...

Man, she is already going head first for 2012. God help us.

 

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