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post #601 of 836
11/6/08 at 9:57pm
Wait, what am I saying? I revel in theories about political tactics that hinge on people on the left and right being fundamentally different types.
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post #602 of 836
11/6/08 at 10:33pm
The GOP will continue to make Palin the scapegoat. They will bury any chance of her being any signifant part of the future of the party. She will not be the 2012 nominee. Guaranteed. But she seems to be a strong woman and here's my prediction..... after a reaming by the Republican party and the humiliation they receive, the Palins will turn back to the Alaskan Independence Party and build real support for separation from the union. Hell hath no fury as a woman's scorn.
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post #603 of 836
11/6/08 at 10:35pm
The Tubes will save us!!

The Tubes will save us!!

Seriously. That site has some "disturbing" dumb crap.
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The challenge is daunting, but if we adopt a strongly anti-Washington message and charge hard against Obama and the Democrats, we will energize our grassroots base.

It's gonna get nasty. Country First my ass.
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post #604 of 836
11/9/08 at 9:39am
Now we kick in that fiscal conservativeness that needs to be engaged, and we progress this state with $57-a-barrel oil, Ms. Palin said.

And, um, strategery.
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post #605 of 836
11/9/08 at 11:03am
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Now we kick in that fiscal conservativeness that needs to be engaged, and we progress this state with $57-a-barrel oil, Ms. Palin said.

And, um, strategery.

But she totally knows the difference between Africa the continent and Africa the, uh, country.

When we talk about Africa, there.
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post #606 of 836
11/9/08 at 11:12am
She's also still repeating the line that she's "disappointed" with what's become of the media since she got her journalism degree, which she must think implies she has some kind of expertise.

She goes on to say I want to be able to help also Americans to know that they can trust their media, which suggests that the English language also big changes has gone through some, since she got her, y'know, "degree", there.
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post #607 of 836
11/9/08 at 12:43pm
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post #608 of 836
11/10/08 at 2:14pm
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The GOP will continue to make Palin the scapegoat. They will bury any chance of her being any signifant part of the future of the party. She will not be the 2012 nominee. Guaranteed.

I'm completely surprised that Adda and Midwinter have been parroting talking points from the McCain camp so completely. It's clear that McCain is done and those "aides" who are doing their best to scapegoat Palin are only trying to secure their own future in the party. And if Palin is a part of the future, they have a huge problem.

Hiding behind the backs of journalists and afraid to use their own names or provide any shred of evidence, the response here would be completely different if the victim of this nonsense was a Democrat. That it's being dished out with a huge helping of sexism only makes it worse.
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post #609 of 836
11/10/08 at 2:19pm
This is too funny and it might stick for a long, long time.

1. Palin

1. An applicant lacking even basic job skills
2. Someone supremely un-self-aware or lacking any relative sense of what he/she does or doesn't know.

HR sent me another Palin for the marketing manager job.

3.\t Palin\t
n.

1. Pejorative term that refers to an incompetent, impractical, irrelevant or incapable person who has been appointed to a position of great importance.

2. A person who holds authority disproportionate to his or her requisite ethics and qualifications. Derived from John McCain's controversial 2008 Vice Presidential pick, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
John was recently made principal, but everybody thinks he's a Palin who can't do the job.

My new boss is such a Palin - he took my deserved place because the CEO is his personal friend.
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11/10/08 at 2:23pm
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I'm completely surprised that Adda and Midwinter have been parroting talking points from the McCain camp so completely. It's clear that McCain is done and those "aides" who are doing their best to scapegoat Palin are only trying to secure their own future in the party. And if Palin is a part of the future, they have a huge problem.

Hiding behind the backs of journalists and afraid to use their own names or provide any shred of evidence, the response here would be completely different if the victim of this nonsense was a Democrat. That it's being dished out with a huge helping of sexism only makes it worse.

We're parroting McCain "camp" talking points? Is there even a McCain camp anymore? Palin is a horrid stain on the American political landscape, but the fact of the matter is that she completely energized the GOP base. The problem is that that base is becoming increasingly boxed in in the South.

Should she be the nominee in 2012? No. It would be horrible for a America. Good for Democrats, but bad for America.

I think, similarly, that if they try to run Bobby Jindal they'll just look like they're trying to offer up a conservative Obama.

In the end, as I've said elsewhere, I think it is in the best interests of the GOP to sit down and figure out what it's about. For 40 years, it's been about diving the country by riling up the worst energies in the country. Since 1994, it's been about electing a legislature that will abdicate its responsibilities and serve the president like a lapdog and b) destroy democrats by any political means necessary.

I'm hopeful that the GOP learns how to not act like a party of dicks and will show an interest in principles, rather than an interest in standing for standing for principles. I'm also hopeful that Obama will govern like a grown up.
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11/10/08 at 2:41pm
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We're parroting McCain "camp" talking points? Is there even a McCain camp anymore? Palin is a horrid stain on the American political landscape, but the fact of the matter is that she completely energized the GOP base. The problem is that that base is becoming increasingly boxed in in the South.

Well, not maybe a 'camp', but a bunch of low-lifes taking shots without the guts to show their faces.

I'm not sure the southern base is boxed in' as much as Obama's candidacy brought out a lot of new voters to the polls. Will that hold for 2012? I don't know.

If he governs well and doesn't go overboard, it may not even be an issue.

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Should she be the nominee in 2012? No. It would be horrible for a America. Good for Democrats, but bad for America.

I don't agree with the 'horrible' part. I think that there's a lot of scrutiny for the Oval Office job, and if she really isn't up to it, she'll fade. I do think she's a smart and capable woman, but McCain's last minute bombshell announcement meant that she didn't have any time to get up to speed on federal files, or really pull a coherent campaign together.

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I think, similarly, that if they try to run Bobby Jindal they'll just look like they're trying to offer up a conservative Obama.

That probably won't stop him from running though. And again, it's good for the GOP to show it has support from all quarters and not just that 'base'.

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In the end, as I've said elsewhere, I think it is in the best interests of the GOP to sit down and figure out what it's about. For 40 years, it's been about diving the country by riling up the worst energies in the country. Since 1994, it's been about electing a legislature that will abdicate its responsibilities and serve the president like a lapdog and b) destroy democrats by any political means necessary.

As I've said for months, the GOP needs this time in the wilderness. I don't agree that division has been purely a GOP trait. The Democrats are also well versed in the ways of that Force.

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I'm hopeful that the GOP...will show an interest in principles, rather than an interest in standing for standing for principles.

That will require new bold leadership and standing up to the neo-con wing of the party.
I hope we get it.
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post #612 of 836
11/10/08 at 3:07pm
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That it's being dished out with a huge helping of sexism only makes it worse.

Youcha betcha. Sexcha sellscha. Watchcha anycha TVcha latelycha? Dontcha knowcha.
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post #613 of 836
11/10/08 at 4:17pm
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I don't agree with the 'horrible' part. I think that there's a lot of scrutiny for the Oval Office job, and if she really isn't up to it, she'll fade. I do think she's a smart and capable woman, but McCain's last minute bombshell announcement meant that she didn't have any time to get up to speed on federal files, or really pull a coherent campaign together.


She has very obviously shown she is not up to the job. She was under consideration for months and knew it: I think the dumbest question to come out early was: "what exactly does the VP do all day?" - any governor should know the answer; she still didn't know very late in the campaign, thus showing not only her blatant ignorance but her complete lack of desire to understand, both of which make her a horrible choice for 2012. She simply doesn't care about anything and it was obvious.

If she and Camp McCain couldn't get things up to speed, then that only proves they would be incapable of properly dealing with a major crisis: economic, terror or natural.

That the conservatives are even considering Palin for 2012 scares the heck out of me.

 

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post #614 of 836
11/10/08 at 4:23pm
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That the conservatives are even considering Palin for 2012 scars the heck out of me.

Indeed, there.
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post #615 of 836
11/10/08 at 4:34pm


Nevermind...
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post #616 of 836
11/10/08 at 5:14pm
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She has very obviously shown she is not up to the job. She was under consideration for months and knew it: I think the dumbest question to come out early was: "what exactly does the VP do all day?" - any governor should know the answer; she still didn't know very late in the campaign, thus showing not only her blatant ignorance but her complete lack of desire to understand, both of which make her a horrible choice for 2012. She simply doesn't care about anything and it was obvious.

Blatant ignorance must be contagious. The VP's role has varied substantially during administrations.

Aside from the strict constitutional role in the senate, the VP can be a world away from the Presidency, doing the cross country speech circuit and lobbying Congress. Or the VP can function as a CEO, running the business of government under orders of the President.

These roles have varied by administration, not parties.
There is no boilerplate answer to how a Democratic admin views a VP as opposed to a Republican one.

There have been whole decades where people wondered "what exactly does the VP do all day?"
Many have even called for the role to be abolished. To suggest there is a simple answer is misleading, at best.
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post #617 of 836
11/10/08 at 5:22pm
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That will require new bold leadership and standing up to the neo-con wing of the party.
I hope we get it.

Dude. You're Canadian. You live in Canada. You don't vote or live here. There is no "we" here.

Your defense of Palin is strange. From conservative politicians to pundits to columnists to party insiders to independents, to liberals she was/is an embarrassment.

Nothing to do with religion right?
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11/10/08 at 5:55pm
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Blatant ignorance must be contagious. The VP's role has varied substantially during administrations.

Aside from the strict constitutional role in the senate, the VP can be a world away from the Presidency, doing the cross country speech circuit and lobbying Congress. Or the VP can function as a CEO, running the business of government under orders of the President.

These roles have varied by administration, not parties.
There is no boilerplate answer to how a Democratic admin views a VP as opposed to a Republican one.

There have been whole decades where people wondered "what exactly does the VP do all day?"
Many have even called for the role to be abolished. To suggest there is a simple answer is misleading, at best.


You're doing the same thing conservatives have been doing for years with Bush.

Making Excuses!
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11/10/08 at 6:07pm
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That will require new bold leadership and standing up to the neo-con wing of the party.
I hope we get it.

It's high time we stood up to the neo-con AND religious wing of the party and go back to being fiscal conservatives and pragmatic foreign policy statesmen.
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11/10/08 at 6:27pm
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It's high time we stood up to the neo-con AND religious wing of the party and go back to being fiscal conservatives and pragmatic foreign policy statesmen.

I don't think the neocon wing needs standing up to anymore.
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11/10/08 at 6:54pm
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Dude. You're Canadian. You live in Canada. You don't vote or live here. There is no "we" here.

Your defense of Palin is strange. From conservative politicians to pundits to columnists to party insiders to independents, to liberals she was/is an embarrassment.

Nothing to do with religion right?

For some, it's all about abortion at the risk of fucking up everything else.
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11/10/08 at 8:16pm
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For some, it's all about abortion at the risk of fucking up everything else.

The Republicans could run a fucking ottoman, and if it were solidly against abortion, for unrestricted gun ownership, and railed unreservedly against Godless liberals, there would be a constituency defending it against charges that furniture isn't fit to be president.
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post #623 of 836
11/10/08 at 8:34pm
That would be Utah.
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11/10/08 at 8:35pm
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That would be Utah.



But you got them purty mountains to look at.
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11/10/08 at 8:53pm
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Blatant ignorance must be contagious. The VP's role has varied substantially during administrations.

Aside from the strict constitutional role in the senate, the VP can be a world away from the Presidency, doing the cross country speech circuit and lobbying Congress. Or the VP can function as a CEO, running the business of government under orders of the President.

These roles have varied by administration, not parties.
There is no boilerplate answer to how a Democratic admin views a VP as opposed to a Republican one.

There have been whole decades where people wondered "what exactly does the VP do all day?"
Many have even called for the role to be abolished. To suggest there is a simple answer is misleading, at best.

Thanks for calling me ignorant. I appreciate that.

Palin obviously could not and still cannot state the functions of the VP as stated in the Constitution, much less provide any kind of historical interpretation. This was but one example of many.

Regarding coming up to speed, what if the US faced another 9/11 the first week of a McCain/Palin administration? Would people then say that she didn't have time to get up to speed in order to effect a response? Katrina?

The right is already suggesting that Obama is heading for too much change right off the bat in January, but the same media people said that Bush needed to show strength.

It all brings back memories of the wonderful bill O'Reilly spouting off about Spears' sister's pregnancy and then defending Bristol's. Opposite opinions on the same topic are correct on different days simply because the Right, Inc., must always be correct.

O'Reilly, Pfoten-whatever, Rove, in their own words:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...in-gender-card

They are idiots who will contradict themselves at any time and they will all protect their darling idiot at all cost.

 

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post #626 of 836
11/10/08 at 9:38pm
oof. um, there.
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11/11/08 at 6:16am
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oof. um, there.

Shouldn't be fucking hard since she only shopped at consignment stores in the past.

Are we still talking about this woman?
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post #628 of 836
11/11/08 at 6:51am
I think we need to investigate Obama's pie budget? He's obvioulsy not eating all of that pie Follow the pie money!
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11/11/08 at 7:22am
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Are we still talking about this woman?

Yes. Sarah Palin is the gift that keeps on giving.
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11/11/08 at 7:32am
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yes. Sarah palin is the grifter that keeps on grifting.

ftfy
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11/11/08 at 7:56am
If God wills it, she will run again.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...onY5QD94CPRCO0


"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door,"

"And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door."


Oh, and it's all GW's fault.

 

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11/11/08 at 8:04am
NY Times conservative David Brooks,
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/op...brooks.html?hp
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To regain power, the Traditionalists argue, the G.O.P. should return to its core ideas: Cut government, cut taxes, restrict immigration. Rally behind Sarah Palin.

Who are these traditionalists, do they have pull?
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Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are the most prominent voices in the Traditionalist camp, but there is also the alliance of Old Guard institutions.

These two alone have a huge following that believe everything they say.

I hope they prevail, Brook's take on it,
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In short, the Republican Party will probably veer right in the years ahead, and suffer more defeats. Then, finally, some new Reformist donors and organizers will emerge. They will build new institutions, new structures and new ideas, and the cycle of conservative ascendance will begin again.

She ain't going away.
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11/11/08 at 12:16pm
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Dude. You're Canadian. You live in Canada. You don't vote or live here. There is no "we" here.

Canadians are dying in your American-led war in Afghanistan. Dealing with AIDS in Africa depends largely on US pharma interests. If New York or Washington gets nuked, the fumes will probably reach my house.

So yeah, I have a stake in this. Deal with it.

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It's high time we stood up to the neo-con AND religious wing of the party and go back to being fiscal conservatives and pragmatic foreign policy statesmen.

How does the religious right present a barrier to fiscal conservatism?
Aside from their support of Israel's existence, how does the religious right present a barrier to pragmatic foreign policy?

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I don't think the neocon wing needs standing up to anymore.

Ok, we disagree there completely.

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Regarding coming up to speed, what if the US faced another 9/11 the first week of a McCain/Palin administration? Would people then say that she didn't have time to get up to speed in order to effect a response? Katrina?

Isn't this what the Transition thing is for?
There's a good reason the new admin doesn't take office the day after the election.

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The right is already suggesting that Obama is heading for too much change right off the bat in January...

Um, what would you expect them to say? "Hey, go for it!"

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If God wills it, she will run again...

How it that any different from Obama asking God to make him an instrument of His will?
Oh, I forgot, Obama is your darling idiot.
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11/11/08 at 12:24pm
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She ain't going away.

If we can ignore this cunt...



We can ignore that one.
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11/11/08 at 12:52pm
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Canadians are dying in your American-led war in Afghanistan. Dealing with AIDS in Africa depends largely on US pharma interests. If New York or Washington gets nuked, the fumes will probably reach my house.

So yeah, I have a stake in this. Deal with it.

The discussion and your quoted comment had to do with "new leadership" and "standing up to the neo-con wing" within the Rep party which makes your reply a little ridiculous. Do you want to be an American that badly?

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If New York or Washington gets nuked, the fumes will probably reach my house.

You're even channeling Palin. Bravo.
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11/11/08 at 12:57pm
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The discussion and your quoted comment had to do with "new leadership" and "standing up to the neo-con wing" within the Rep party which makes your reply a little ridiculous. Do you want to be an American that badly?

I have never wanted to be American.

Canadian and American parties routinely share tactics and strategists with each other.

With the neo-cons out of favour in the U.S. and a Conservative goverment in Ottawa, it makes eminent sense to want to "fight them over there rather than over here."
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11/11/08 at 1:39pm
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If we can ignore this cunt...



We can ignore that one.

C'mon, that cunt is the heart of the extreme right wing and Palin is her political doppleganger.
She ain't going anywhere except up in the extreme right wing, Hannity, Limbfuck etc.

This is a good thing.
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11/11/08 at 1:59pm
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C'mon, that cunt is the heart of the extreme right wing and Palin is her political doppleganger.
She ain't going anywhere except up in the extreme right wing, Hannity, Limbfuck etc.

This is a good thing.

Well consider me not caring anymore. This is the last time I'll make any remark/comment/picture on this useless white trash.
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11/11/08 at 5:20pm
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If God wills it, she will run again.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...onY5QD94CPRCO0


"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door,"

"And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door."


Oh, and it's all GW's fault.

I'm guesing what she did for McSame's campaign won't be forgotten so I don't think any run by her will last long.
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11/11/08 at 9:33pm
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I'm guesing what she did for McSame's campaign won't be forgotten so I don't think any run by her will last long.

What if she has God on her side? Huh? Huh?
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