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post #41 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:28pm
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Well night # 3 ended with a victory for team McCain.

She out Obama'd Obama.

Wow.. McCain did something right here.

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post #42 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:28pm
She was also very unhappy at the end, almost in tears.

A complete disaster.

 

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post #43 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:29pm
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Well night # 3 ended with a victory for team McCain.

She out Obama'd Obama.

Wow.. McCain did something right here.

Fellows

Really?

I mean, do you think the talk was incredible?

The words were fine at time (she didn't actually write it, which was clear from her delivery) but she was flat...
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post #44 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:30pm
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She was also very unhappy at the end, almost in tears.

A complete disaster.

She was a huge hit. You've got to be kidding me.
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post #45 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:31pm
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Really?

I mean, do you think the talk was incredible?

The words were fine at time (she didn't actually write it, which was clear from her delivery) but she was flat...

I actually think she did very well.

I think Obama just lost the race.

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post #46 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:33pm
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She was a huge hit. You've got to be kidding me.

Yeah, all those old people in the audience seemed to like her.
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post #47 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:34pm
I must say that I am favorably impressed. Fantastic speech with many, many excellent points.

I think that she described herself accurately: "What's the difference between a pit-bull and a hockey mom?
"The lipstick."

If McCain can meet or beat (!) that speech, then, barring any major revelations between now and Nov 4, I'd say that the Republicans win the Presidency.

Good to see the Republicans finally go on offense for a change.

V/R,
Aries 1B

PS:

Hillary's Presidential aspirations have just died.
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post #48 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:35pm
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I actually think she did very well.

I think Obama just lost the race.

Fellows

or do you mean Palin won it?

I don't see how Obama lost the race if she was the one talking.

I didn't expect her to fail.
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post #49 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:36pm
For a change, heh.
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post #50 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:36pm
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Yeah, all those old people in the audience seemed to like her.

I think people all across the country will admire her quite frankly and many of them will not be "old".

Time will tell. I thought last night the republican party was finished from the looks of this convention.

Then we had the Palin speech tonight. Talk about a game changer.

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post #51 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:37pm
Fellows, you're putting us on man!

Stop!
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post #52 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:38pm
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or do you mean Palin won it?

I don't see how Obama lost the race if she was the one talking.

I didn't expect her to fail.

I am simply saying in not so many words that Palin is far more substantial than I originally thought.

This does nothing but shore up team McCain.

This is not to say Obama has lost anything.

It is only to suggest that this race one of the most interesting in my lifetime.

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post #53 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:40pm
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Fellows, you're putting us on man!

Stop!



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post #54 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:40pm
She did amazingly well. Especially under the pressure of having everything but the kitchen sink thrown at her in the last 5 days.

I still think Obama will pull off the win though.
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post #55 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:41pm
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I guess we'll see.
Anyone else feel like they were watching a Minnie Pearl convention looking at the people in the crowd?

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post #56 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:41pm
wow Fellows.

Every day I come here you have a completely different opinion. Dating to 2003. Weird.
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post #57 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:43pm
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wow Fellows.

Every day I come here you have a completely different opinion. Dating to 2003. Weird.

I am not a stale personality. I am one of the most opinionated people I know

I just call things the way I see them.

I never said I am right. I just state my opinions.

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post #58 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:44pm
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I am simply saying in not so many words that Palin is far more substantial than I originally thought.

This does nothing but shore up team McCain.

This is not to say Obama has lost anything.

It is only to suggest that this race one of the most interesting in my lifetime.

Fellows

I honestly don't think the democrats underestimated her political abilities. She has risen too quickly to be without any skill set.
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post #59 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:44pm
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She did amazingly well. Especially under the pressure of having everything but the kitchen sink thrown at her in the last 5 days.

I still think Obama will pull off the win though.

I think it's amazing how much the conservative base thinks she did great simply because her speechwriters repeated the talking points.

Meanwhile, reality is another beast. She was flat. She was not happy. She was not enthusiastic. She was unoriginal, and the points made were not honest.
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post #60 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:44pm
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Well night # 3 ended with a victory for team McCain.

She out Obama'd Obama.

Wow.. McCain did something right here.

Fellows

SERIOUSLY?

Her delivery was somewhere between PTA mom, and small-town mayor. Literally not in the same "ballpark" as Obama's.
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post #61 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:46pm
I thought she did a competent job at speech making. I think she obviously lied about a few things...more so than the Dems did...but that's about par I think.

But all in all a very good job. Game changer? Perhaps. She plays to Republican strengths and can motivate the base to actually come out this year to vote which was in doubt before McCain picked her.

Independents? We'll see.
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post #62 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:46pm
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I am not a stale personality. I am one of the most opinionated people I know

I just call things the way I see them.

I never said I am right. I just state my opinions.

Fellows

Yeah. That's what it is.
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post #63 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:47pm
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wow Fellows.

Every day I come here you have a completely different opinion. Dating to 2003. Weird.

True, but you had to see this coming when McCain picked a strict anti-abortionist.

Fellows is one of the few fence-sitters for which this wedge issue works 100% of the time. Most of the anti-abortion-clingers will never in their life vote for a Democrat, so this phenomenon will not have much impact on the final election tally.
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post #64 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:47pm
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I think it's amazing how much the conservative base thinks she did great simply because her speechwriters repeated the talking points.

Meanwhile, reality is another beast. She was flat. She was not happy. She was not enthusiastic. She was unoriginal, and the points made were not honest.

Exactly.

She was more than deceitful about Obama's proposals (I think it may work because tax reducing democrat is a national oxymoron). She was much more than more than decietful about her OWN record.

She was introducing herself to the national stage and she came off unsympathetic. People, I think, will on the whole find her slightly repulsive.
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post #65 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:47pm
She impressed the ole fellows.

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post #66 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:49pm
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She was also very unhappy at the end, almost in tears.

A complete disaster.

I didn't see that. She did make that face again when McCain hugged her.

Heck, I would too...the guys creepy now. We should have nominated him 8 years ago instead of shrub.

The only thing I don't like about Palin is that she seems as lightweight as Bush. Deliberately so.
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post #67 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:52pm
She did better than I thought she would, but it was ALL reading. It was good for the base no doubt.

At times the speech seemed to have been written for someone else by the Bush speech writers.
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post #68 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:52pm
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SERIOUSLY?

Her delivery was somewhere between PTA mom, and small-town mayor. Literally not in the same "ballpark" as Obama's.

No I fully understand her caliber was more "real" and less surreal.

I also fully understand that she is the VP slot on the ticket compared to Obama being the top of his ticket. This said I believe she is tougher than Obama.

Obama is weak in the name of being a gentleman. Sarah Palin comes across as a tough woman who in my view is tougher than Obama.

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post #69 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:54pm
I thought she did a competent job at speech making. I think she obviously lied about a few things...more so than the Dems did...but that's about par I think.

But all in all a very good job. She plays to Republican strengths and can motivate the base to actually come out this year to vote which was in doubt before McCain picked her. Independents? We'll see.

Rubs me the wrong way though. She's a lightweight like Bush. And McCain is just creepy now. I wish we had nominated him 8 years ago. Did you see she made that same face when McCain hugged her again?

Meh. Count me as one republican thats not excited about her.
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post #70 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:55pm
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This said I believe she is tougher than Obama.

Obama is weak in the name of being a gentleman. Sarah Palin comes across as a tough woman who in my view is tougher than Obama.

Fellows

In other words - she's more of a natural at negative, divisive, attack politics?

I don't doubt that for a minute.
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post #71 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:56pm
More so that that's the Republican script... nasty, divisive politics.
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post #72 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:56pm
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No I fully understand her caliber was more "real" and less surreal.

I also fully understand that she is the VP slot on the ticket compared to Obama being the top of his ticket. This said I believe she is tougher than Obama.

Obama is weak in the name of being a gentleman. Sarah Palin comes across as a tough woman who in my view is tougher than Obama.

Fellows

As if what we need after the Bush fiasco is more cowboy "toughness".

No. What we need now is international diplomacy. Period.

And I call bullshit on why you like Palin.

Name one thing she did as mayor that you support.

Name one thing she did as governor that you support.

You can't. And you don't care. Because she has wedged you in.
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post #73 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:57pm
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More so that that's the Republican script... nasty, divisive politics.

Exactly - and that's all she did, was read a script that someone prepared for her.
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9/3/08 at 8:57pm
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In other words - she's more of a natural at negative, divisive, attack politics?

I don't doubt that for a minute.

I like how Obama conducts himself. He is respectful and thoughtful but in the world of politics and the screwed up world we live in I am not sure if his niceness will work.

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post #75 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:58pm
(she didn't write the speech)
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post #76 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:59pm
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No I fully understand her caliber was more "real" and less surreal.

I also fully understand that she is the VP slot on the ticket compared to Obama being the top of his ticket. This said I believe she is tougher than Obama.

Obama is weak in the name of being a gentleman. Sarah Palin comes across as a tough woman who in my view is tougher than Obama.

Well she sure appealed to the religious base anyway.

I dunno anything about her character other than she's a liar. Of course, given she's a politician and likely Obama has lied too since he's a politician too. But lying about the bridge thing was just too transparent to me.

I dislike it when politicians assume I'm an idiot.
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post #77 of 291
9/3/08 at 8:59pm
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As if what we need after the Bush fiasco is more cowboy "toughness".

No. What we need now is international diplomacy. Period.

And I call bullshit on why you like Palin.

Name one thing she did as mayor that you support.

Name one thing she did as governor that you support.

You can't. And you don't care. Because she has wedged you in.

I don't mean toughness in terms of foreign policy. The republicans have really left my values with their foreign policy. I thought she was tough when describing energy policy where Obama comes across as almost one who stutters when he discusses his positions on energy policy.

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post #78 of 291
9/3/08 at 9:01pm
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But lying about the bridge thing was just too transparent to me.

I dislike it when politicians assume I'm an idiot.

That bothered me as well and I agree with you here 100%

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post #79 of 291
9/3/08 at 9:01pm
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I don't mean toughness in terms of foreign policy. The republicans have really left my values with their foreign policy. I thought she was tough when describing energy policy where Obama comes across as almost one who stutters when he discusses his positions on energy policy.

Fellows

Look at his acceptance speech again fellows...
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9/3/08 at 9:01pm
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Fellows is one of the few fence-sitters for which this wedge issue works 100% of the time. Most of the anti-abortion-clingers will never in their life vote for a Democrat, so this phenomenon will not have much impact on the final election tally.

There are plenty of pro-lifers who work for, cheer for and volunteer for Democrats that hold pro-life positions. The fact that the national party is in a pro-abortion stranglehold by radical leftists is the reason why this never translates into broad national support by Evangelicals.

And this turns what should be an easy Democratic win into a real fight. Before nutbars started running the Democratic asylum, the parties were fairly evenly matched.

Tonight is a case in point. Both Obama and Dean have worked hard for months to try to close the gap in support amongst people of faith. So Palin gets picked for VP, and a few idiots panic and start running pro-choice ads all over the place.

And all the work that Obama and Dean have done to narrow that gap gets undone in ONE NIGHT.

You are right that the diehards were always going to vote McCain. But the fencesitters (like possibly Fellowship et al) on the pro-life side have now been pushed over. That's not smart strategy.
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