Originally Posted by trumptman
So we are in agreement, bringing up the personal life of Palin instead of discussing policies and positions is sexism at work instead of true discussion. Thus everyone who participated and added to such a discussion is sexist.
Strawman. We are not in agreement because I said nothing of the sort.
Odd by what reasoning? I think that being in her fifth labor she certain knew her own body and how it would respond. The fact that you claim to know her own body better than her is nothing more than pure sexism. The fact that you claim to judge what is better for her body than her is again, sexism.
Odd by every comment made to us by an OB on what not to do when pregnant. What to do when in labor, etc. Are you saying that a male OB cannot "know" the body of a patient better than they do?
It is not sexism.
The glass ceiling I was referring to was being governor of Alaska.
There have been other female governors. It's not much of an unbroken glass ceiling anymore for anything other than the executive office.
Then I guess you missed the page one NY Times article I cited noting a lot of liberal Obama supporters having problems with and questioning it.
Probably because you posted that citation AFTER the post I responded to. Lets take a look:
#1 Karen Rooff, Independent: I dont care whether shes the mother or the father; its a lot to handle,
#2 Lori Viars, evangelical Christian: "The whole family is pro-life, and they put that into practice even when its not easy,"
Oddly, doesn't answer the question.
#3 Christin Henre de Tessan, Obama supporter: "You can juggle a BlackBerry and a breast pump in a lot of jobs, but not in the vice presidency"
I dunno, I've never been VP.
#4 Anne Faircloth, Republican, Being a governor is one thing, Ms. Faircloth said, and Ms. Palins husband, Todd, seems like a supportive spouse. But running for the second-highest office in the land is a very different kettle of fish,
#5 Sarah Robertson, evangelical Christian, A mother of a 4-month-old infant with Down syndrome taking up full-time campaigning? Not my value set.
#6 One detail of Ms. Palins biography jumped out to many mothers, becoming a subject of instant fixation. She went back to work as governor of Alaska three days after giving birth, a poster named cafemama marveled on another blog, urbanmamas.com.
#7 Phyllis Schlafly, "People who dont have children or who have only one or two are kind of overwhelmed at the notion of five children, Ms. Schlafly continued, mentioning that she had raised six children and run for Congress as well. I think a hard-working, well-organized C.E.O. type can handle it very well"
So...mostly split opinions with only women commenting. Hardly a bunch of Obama supporters having problems with it.
Going back to work 3 days later is being...pretty driven. Hell, I
took more than 3 days off after my last kid was born.
No one has questioned her experience? I would beg to differ and so would a couple hundred news articles.
Strawman. You specifically stated "mommy track" No one has questioned her experience because she's on the "mommy track" because she obviously isn't on the mommy track when she runs off back to work 3 days after giving birth.
People question her experience because she's been mayor of a small town and only recently governor of Alaska. Not because she has 5 kids.
So you can cite proof that affirms that both teens involved were never taught about birth control, never had access to birth control?
I would like to see that proof. It takes two to tango as the saying goes. That certainly is a mitigating factor.
We have proof that even in a family that supports abstinence that teen sex still occurs. We're talking about a highly educated, very conservative and religious household. Now extrapolate to a single parent working multiple jobs to make ends meet.
The only potential mitigating factor is that the Palins may have been so career oriented that the children did not get a lot of guidance.
As for the dad...yes, it takes two to tango. It only takes one to say "no condom, no sex". His parents failed as well.