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post #41 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by Animaniac:
<strong>6c116 was already seeded.

<a href="http://railheaddesign.com" target="_blank">http://railheaddesign.com</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

that's certainly news to me...
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post #42 of 95
OK. Here's the latestt info from Railhead:

Saturday, August 3, 2002 5:28pm CST

6C115 Is The Golden Master

Since returning from our little 36 hour vacation, I have had several confirmations that OS X build 6C115 has in fact, been declared the Golden Master. On the same token, however, build development has continued (of course) as there are a couple of choice fixes that will need to be resolved after 10.2 is released as build 6C115. These fixes will eventually take the form of the minor updates weve all come to know and love.

As for what will be fixed the post-6C115 builds, there are still minor issues with FTP connections as well as with the built-in Windows browsing. But dont worry: these issues only rear their ugly heads under very specific network circumstances, so the vast majority of OS X users will never have to deal with them prior to Apple releasing updates in September.
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post #43 of 95
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post #44 of 95
umm. aquatik. who wouldn;t get a <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> in your opinion? They've been the most conservative IMO. of all the gossip site.


geez. o.
post #45 of 95
If 6C115 is GM then it's shipping with a broken FTP from the desktop feature.
post #46 of 95
Carracho servers are offering 6C118.. 6C115 was FC1 I guess, but not GM...

Hey Zimphire, whats up? its yield2apple from MacNN.. Sucks that the forums are down, eh? I wonder if they're making the switch over to vBulletin..
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post #47 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by brokenphone:
<strong>Sucks that the forums are down, eh? I wonder if they're making the switch over to vBulletin..</strong><hr></blockquote>Actually, the switch was made several days ago. Did you not see the horrible formatting on the pages before they took it down again?
post #48 of 95
[quote] Carracho servers are offering 6C118 <hr></blockquote>

Hmmmm interesting, so that's why when installed your build number states 6C115?

The latest build from ADC states 115. So unless someone is grabbing internal non seeded builds that's complete hogwash.

I downloaded one of these 118's to see for sure and it was a joke, it was 115.

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post #49 of 95
Hogwash...sorta like Moki's thinly veiled hardware predictions.

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post #50 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by Moogs:
<strong>Hogwash...sorta like Moki's thinly veiled hardware predictions.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

You wound me.
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post #51 of 95
yeah, the MacNN formating sucks, it sucks suck sucks and I hope AppleInsider keeps this system, i love it, love it love it and MacNN sucks sucks sucks <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
post #52 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:
<strong>yeah, the MacNN formating sucks, it sucks suck sucks and I hope AppleInsider keeps this system, i love it, love it love it and MacNN sucks sucks sucks <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

double that
post #53 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:
<strong>yeah, the MacNN formating sucks, it sucks suck sucks and I hope AppleInsider keeps this system, i love it, love it love it and MacNN sucks sucks sucks</strong><hr></blockquote>Don't worry guys. I know this is a bit off topic, but I'll tell you that I'm already making some new templates for AI's switch to vB. Believe me, we WILL NOT make the switch until everything has been tested and stamped with Jonathan's seal of approval. vB is a very nice system, provided you can get the layout to look good.

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post #54 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by brokenphone:
<strong>Carracho servers are offering 6C118.. 6C115 was FC1 I guess, but not GM...

Hey Zimphire, whats up? its yield2apple from MacNN.. Sucks that the forums are down, eh? I wonder if they're making the switch over to vBulletin..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not much, I new MacNN would be down for awhile, they usually are when making such changes.
post #55 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:
<strong>As for what will be fixed the post-6C115 builds, there are still minor issues with FTP connections as well as with the built-in Windows browsing. But dont worry: these issues only rear their ugly heads under very specific network circumstances, so the vast majority of OS X users will never have to deal with them prior to Apple releasing updates in September.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually the vast majority of OS X users can't get the FTP feature to work, the server mounts on the desktop, but there is nothing there, can't upload, etc.
post #56 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by Zimphire:
<strong>users can't get the FTP feature to work... can't upload</strong><hr></blockquote>Exactly.

And, thus, the FTP as absolutely useless for me. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
post #57 of 95
Brad tell that to the people over at MacNN.

All I get from them is "It works great"

Only on certain FTP sites, like say, Apple's...
post #58 of 95
Oh yes, I've seen the "hell on earth" battle raging at MacNN. Participating in them is the last thing I want to do right now.

The simple truth could be that Apple simply couldn't get this fixed in time to meet the August 24th deadline. Upon installing 10.2, we may be immediately greeted with a Software Update to install.
post #59 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by Brad:
<strong>Oh yes, I've seen the "hell on earth" battle raging at MacNN. Participating in them is the last thing I want to do right now. </strong>
The HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING IS WRONG zealots get on my nerves sometimes.
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The simple truth could be that Apple simply couldn't get this fixed in time to meet the August 24th deadline. Upon installing 10.2, we may be immediately greeted with a Software Update to install.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Lets hope
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post #60 of 95
ok kids.... IS 6c115 GM or not????
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post #61 of 95
Finder FTP--well, it connects and mounts and shows the files and downloads really fast for me. I can't upload, though...I am wondering, perhaps that's purposeful? I mean, does it say anywhere that this is intended as a replacement for Fetch &c?
post #62 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by ZO:
<strong>ok kids.... IS 6c115 GM or not????</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's exactly what I want to know. While all logic indicates that it is, I'm still waiting for my ADC email to verify the damn thing.
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post #63 of 95
I sure hope it's not GM. has anyone else tried to print? it keeps stopping the que on my HP-DJ1220c, which worked great under 10.1.5
While I love 10.2, if C115 is GM, and being pressed to CD as we speak, I will have a bad feeling in my stomach.

Here's hoping that the C115 seed is a covert attempt to root out Pirates, and not a buggy system, released to fulfil a deadline.
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post #64 of 95
I know people will argue until the boxed CD's arrive, but to hopefully set things straight:

1. 6c115 is the build that will arrive in Jaugar boxes on August 24th. This build has been released internally inside Apple and to developers.

Specifically, the build shows the following in the Apple System Profiler:

Darwin Kernel Version 6.0: Sat Jul 27 13:18:52 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-344.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

2. There are already a number of known bugs, including the Finder FTP bug which has a very high priority to be fixed. Most of the bugs are minor and most have been logged for fixing.

3. An update (Maybe "10.2.1", but it's too early to say yet) will be released early in September to fix those bugs.

To put these things in perspective - Apple doesn't just stop work on OS X after a release build, the developers are still working day-to-day as they have been, and more internal builds are being created. At some point every now and again a build is declared suitable for release allowing for various factors (timeframe, the purpose of the build etc).



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post #65 of 95
Ok, so I am burning the image to a CD as I type this...One question...Does anyone know if 6c115 will be able to be updated?? Sure this would be purely speculative, however going by past experience...

I just don't want to be stuck when say 10.2.1 comes out...thanks. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
post #66 of 95
I think it's clear by now that 6C115 will be the build on the CD when you buy it on August 24. If some - or other - feature doesn't work right now, it'll be updated with the first software update. Why not have 10.2.1 ready on the 'net already, when you can buy the CD?
post #67 of 95
After I've crashed my 6C115 totally (by installing something quite unsupported) I was able to 'recover' the OS (which didn't boot any more) by just 'updating' it with the same build (from the same burned CD). So I guess that even if there will be another build on the final CD, we'll just be able to 'update'. Also, final candidates don't state that you won't be able to update like earlier builds did. Just go ahead and install on your production machines, if you have the build legally.
post #68 of 95
Well, I did it, got it installed. It ROCKS!! This is the GM release, and the performance on a 700mhz iBook is great. I thought the "beach ball" was supposed to be solid blue now?? Mine looks a little different, but is still multi colored. Also, there is no mention of quartx extreme, ie is it running or not. I guesse we are supposed to assume. The new finder is really nice, Sherlock is cool, but a blatant knock off of Watson. Anyway, just my first observations.... Seems really stable, and fast though, did I mention that already??
post #69 of 95
I just got it yesterday.

Wow....bootup on both my iBook and SlowSilver(tm) are much quicker.

App relaunch is stellar

But some annoying mouse freeze
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post #70 of 95
Ok, a couple of 10.2 questions...

I cant seem to fing iCal, is it supposed to be in here?? (Using GM version-6C115) Any Ideas??

Also, I thought there was supposed to be some "ink" preferences somewhere?? No mention of it in system preferences... Other than that....IT ROCKS.
post #71 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by warpd:
<strong>I cant seem to fing iCal, is it supposed to be in here?? (Using GM version-6C115) Any Ideas??
</strong><hr></blockquote>

1. stop pirating OS 10.2 ! (no, it's not supposed to be in there. it will come out in september)

[quote]Originally posted by warpd:
<strong>Also, I thought there was supposed to be some "ink" preferences somewhere?? No mention of it in system preferences... </strong><hr></blockquote>

2. those prefs only show up if you connect a graphic tablet.
post #72 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by warpd:
<strong>Ok, a couple of 10.2 questions...

I cant seem to fing [sic] iCal, is it supposed to be in here?? (Using GM version-6C115) Any Ideas??</strong><hr></blockquote>

iCal and iSync are scheduled to be released in September. I would imagine that any associated preference panels, etc., would to be availalbe for installation at the time too.

<strong> [quote]Also, I thought there was supposed to be some "ink" preferences somewhere?? No mention of it in system preferences...</strong><hr></blockquote>

According to what I read, you have to have a tablet hooked up to your computer for Ink to install/appear. (Are the Ink files installed only at the point when 10.2 gets install, or will Ink appear if you hook up a tablet later?)
post #73 of 95
Thanks Ludwigvan!
post #74 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by warpd:
<strong>Thanks Ludwigvan! </strong><hr></blockquote>

Damn ! I post 4 minutes before him and he gets the cherry... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
post #75 of 95
He didn't assume that I was stealing the software. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
post #76 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by warpd:
<strong>He didn't assume that I was stealing the software. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

and ? is it ?

If no, my apologies.
If yes, well... then I was right.
post #77 of 95
Will Inkwell work with an ADB drawing tablet (On the first generation B&W... you know, the one with the precrippled IDE interface...)
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post #78 of 95
[quote]Originally posted by nosarious:
<strong>Will Inkwell work with an ADB drawing tablet</strong><hr></blockquote>Wacom has said that their ADB-boards won't work. The won't work while connected to an iMate either. Sorry.
post #79 of 95
So I am running 10.2 6c115. There is one bug that annoys me, which is in System Prefs/Mouse.

If you select "Ignore trackpad while mouse is present" nothing happens(while a mouse IS present of course). Seems as if "Ignore trackpad while typing" doesn't work properly either.

By the way, this would, of course, only affect PowerBook/iBook users.

So, would they ship with this?
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post #80 of 95
Defiant,
Warpd is indeed running a pirated version if he had "just gotten it", seeing that 6C115 was seeded before 8/10.

[quote]Posted by Warpd:
Does anyone know if 6c115 will be able to be updated?? Sure this would be purely speculative, however going by past experience...

I just don't want to be stuck when say 10.2.1 comes out...thanks.<hr></blockquote>

Well warpd, if you had not pirated the OS, then you wouldn't have to worry, eh?
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