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Each update, I hope and pray that youtube will be fixed!! no. If i switch wifi off youtube flies...I know youtube is sending a reduced size but hey...wifi should be usable.

Anyone else have this issue?
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Installed on my 867mHz 12" powerbook with Leopard. It is not teh snappy. It is teh crappy.

Time for a new MacBook Pro. When do the new ones come out?
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i'm in the wrong thread:-)
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Originally Posted by russco View Post

Each update, I hope and pray that youtube will be fixed!! no. If i switch wifi off youtube flies...I know youtube is sending a reduced size but hey...wifi should be usable.

Anyone else have this issue?

I haven't noticed YouTube slower on WiFi. It also depends on your WiFi signal and data speed.
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Originally Posted by iandean1980 View Post

You can make them easy enough on the PC. Below is how. Garage band doesn't actually take and shorten MP3's so unless your writing your own song.. it would be useless to you.

1. Choose the song you want to make a ringtone. (it will need to be DRM free).

2. Now you need to shorten this song to less that 40 seconds. It will recognize it in iTunes if not, but will not allow you to sync it to your phone. Trust me i just tried. You can find all sorts of bits of software out there for the PC that can do this.

3. Save it it.

4. It needs to be in apples .acc format (also known as .m4a). If its an MP3 you can convert this in iTunes. In iTunes 8 its easier, just select the file, go the the advanced menu and click create ACC version.

5. Locate that file in your music folder.

6. Change the extension that it has (either .acc or m4a) to m4r

M4A = Audio
M4V = Video
M4R = RIngtone

7. Drag it into itunes and it'll suck it up

Done


This works great! Is there a way to make this work for custom text message sounds?
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Originally Posted by nitro View Post

thank you...i wish my internet speed was fast enough to attempt the download at this time.\

Yeah, I know, but it may help if you knowwhy the "update" is so large. So many people seem to miss the fact that on the iPhone, you replace the entire system each time you perform an "update". So basically you are installing a completely new system with whatever changes they made already included.

The good news? Perhaps fewer update mishaps due to incomplete or corrupted file installs.

The bad news? Each update is a complete operating system install, so it will pretty much suck if you are on dial-up.
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Originally Posted by rdhaag View Post

The Caps Lock feature seems to have disappeared.

I didn't even know it was available, except for this thread.

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Originally Posted by onceuponamac View Post

has anyone noticed interference when using their iphone with 2.1 as a phone? i'm getting loud interference which seems to be occurring when the unit is receiving email while i'm on the iphone...

does anyone else use their iphone as a phone?

As far as I know, all GSM phones cause some level of interference with audio devices. I hear it very often with my iPhone. Doing it during email (or other data app) is new to me.

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Originally Posted by iandean1980 View Post

Try this

1. Open a folder or open explorer
2. Click the Layout button (to the left of the Views button) as shown in the picture below
3. Click Folder Options
4. Click the View tab
5. Uncheck Hide extensions for known file types
6. Click OK

You should reply to the proper post rather than quoting an unrelated post. At first, I didn't understand what you were up to when you were quoting someone talking about bluetooth audio.

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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It's interesting that Apple isn't supporting an expensive, poor quality way to send images, in favour of a more robust, free method. Just imagine the backlash if Apple were pushing a feature that cost you money over a free one.

Is email really more robust?

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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

I would say the carriers have made a concerted effort to push usage of SMS/MMS by making it easier to use. Because they can monetize SMS/MMS, cannot monetize email/IM.

I really don't see how they couldn't monetize email / IM. Maybe it is easier for them to do so with SMS, but I don't think a multibillion dollar company couldn't figure out how to charge per message for those systems if they wanted to. I think in the end, the business plan is to push people into paying for to data plans rather than charge per email/IM.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

Is email really more robust?

I believe MMS resolution is 174x136. With email you can send multiple images of any size, type and quality you want. You can also send robust text with the images and even include attachments.

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I really don't see how they couldn't monetize email / IM. Maybe it is easier for them to do so with SMS, but I don't think a multibillion dollar company couldn't figure out how to charge per message for those systems if they wanted to.

What I don't understand is why this isn't a currently a jailbroken app or App Store app. A 3rd-party could make a lot of money managing an SMS/MMS server that undercuts the current AT&T SMS fees and offers decent MMS rates. Is Apple preventing an MMS from popping up?
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post #210 of 315
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Originally Posted by iandean1980 View Post

You can make them easy enough on the PC. Below is how. Garage band doesn't actually take and shorten MP3's so unless your writing your own song.. it would be useless to you.

1. Choose the song you want to make a ringtone. (it will need to be DRM free).

2. Now you need to shorten this song to less that 40 seconds. It will recognize it in iTunes if not, but will not allow you to sync it to your phone. Trust me i just tried. You can find all sorts of bits of software out there for the PC that can do this.

3. Save it it.

4. It needs to be in apples .acc format (also known as .m4a). If its an MP3 you can convert this in iTunes. In iTunes 8 its easier, just select the file, go the the advanced menu and click create ACC version.

5. Locate that file in your music folder.

6. Change the extension that it has (either .acc or m4a) to m4r

M4A = Audio
M4V = Video
M4R = RIngtone

7. Drag it into itunes and it'll suck it up

Done

I make heaps of ringtones from my music with garageband. Don't post unless you google it first.
post #211 of 315
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I believe MMS resolution is 174x136. With email you can send multiple images of any size, type and quality you want. You can also send robust text with the images and even include attachments.

What does resolution have to do with robustness? To me, when I see "robust", I think reliability, not beauty.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

What does resolution have to do with robustness? To me, when I see "robust", I think reliability, not beauty.

Robust isn't the best choice of words. Versatile is much better. MMS is just too limited. As for reliability, I've had more issues with SMS not showing up right away than I have with emails, but reports hear go the other way.
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Robust isn't the best choice of words. Versatile is much better. MMS is just too limited. As for reliability, I've had more issues with SMS not showing up right away than I have with emails, but reports hear go the other way.

That makes more sense. I really don't care so much about SMS/MMS, just that adjective didn't make sense.
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That makes more sense. I really don't care so much about SMS/MMS, just that adjective didn't make sense.

Definitely the wrong word. I'm a little under the weather right now so hopefully you'll give me a pass.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

I really don't see how they couldn't monetize email / IM. Maybe it is easier for them to do so with SMS, but I don't think a multibillion dollar company couldn't figure out how to charge per message for those systems if they wanted to. I think in the end, the business plan is to push people into paying for to data plans rather than charge per email/IM.

I suppose you are right. But email is far less in their control than SMS. I imagine it was just easier to work with SMS/MMS since its built right into GSM. My point over all is they monetized and locked us into a system to slowly bleed us for extra revenue.

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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

What does resolution have to do with robustness? To me, when I see "robust", I think reliability, not beauty.

I took robust to mean email has more positive attributes.
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Originally Posted by leland9 View Post

OK, I downloaded 2 new apps. 1 over 3G and 1 over 2G. Both downloaded quckly and installed quickly. In fact, they installed so quickly I assumed it must have been an error, but no, they worked great. These were not updates, but apps I did not already have. Installing apps before used to take 5 to 10 minutes, and these installed in less than 2 minutes each. Much improved.

Also, 14 hours since I installed 2.1 and no app crashes yet. Was getting crashes at least once an hour before if not more depending on the app.


ok this message is a test. Normally when I post a comment on this website with my iPhone it lags then crashed.... Well it did lags but has not crashed!!! Wooot it's working smooth. Well except when it gets to the right side of the page. But it didn't crash!!

The genius does work pretty well that's cool. I love how fast texting is now. I really love how fast new applications download. And I had 7 updates for apps I didn't install because I wanted to test them today. I love it!! They all updated individually in less than 10 seconds and all the apps stay in their same place which is cool! So many things are better I now have 4-5 bars of 3g and my average download speed with the speed test app is 480kb/s edge was only 160. No apps have crashed everything is perfect. Only thing is my text messages have not chimned more than once when receiving a text. I tested by leaving it untouched after a text for 15 minutes. Woot! I love the iPhone again. Btw I types this entire message on my iPhone in my loving room with 3g. no problems!!
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Originally Posted by sylvaticus View Post

I hope it's OK to ask this question:

Some had suggested that we might see a 64GB iPod and 32GB iPhone announced, but that clearly didn't happen.

I'm still really new to the Mac word (Mac Pro back in late May), so, do any of you know if this is a "reasonable rumor" and might still happen in the "near" future, or if it seems unlikely, that if it happens, it will likely be a year or so away?

Going Mac caught me by surprise, and I bought a new phone in March. So, I'm going to take a huge hit because of the subsidy thing. I'm willing to pay the money today to get a 16GB if the 32GB model is unlikely, but I would die if I bought one after work today and then in October or December (or January?), one was released.

Since I'm going to pay that penalty, I'm OK waiting a little longer if there's any chance, but I hate not synching my phone to my new computer. I've seen a couple utilities (Missing Sync) but they don't appear to sync mail, and I'd prefer going all Mac (I'm now saving for the new Macbook Pros coming out! WOO HOO!!).

I'd love it if some of you who are more used to Apple's product cycles and such could offer any advice on this.

Sincerest thanks,

Keith

The key thing to remember when noting what Apple does and does not offer is time. You say things like "Apple doesn't have a 32GB iPhone... yet." or "Apple doesn't having a sub-$1000 notebook... yet." or "Apple doesn't run a small country... yet."

With Apple it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

Seriously though, iPhone updates have so far, only occurred in July. There may be an announcement at MacWorld, but the actual products have since its inception been July. iPods as you just witnessed get pushed out during WWDC in September or August if they're ambitious about it. Mac updates seem to fall on Fall and Spring of each year (October, November and April, May). At least these are the cycles Apple has been relaxing into for the past couple of years. If you need a new phone, get one now cause it'll be a while. If it's space you're worried about buy a classic to augment your library, Apple will be selling the outdated 160s on the cheap on their store now so get them while they're there. Then just get the lowest capacity iPhone. With things like Pandora, the other internet radio apps and that app that beams your computer-based library to the iPhone it's almost obsolete to carry copies of your music around with you.
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post #218 of 315
iPhone 2.1 installed without any problems. It took 5 minutes to download the update, and about 20 minutes to back up, prep, and install the update before the phone was ready for use again.

I did have to do a manual sync again with iTunes 8 before the Genius icon would appear while playing music in the iPod section of the phone.

2.1 fixes the chapter skip bug while playing movies. Previously I could only skip 1 or 2 chapters before the forward skip refused to skip forward and instead would skip backwards to play the current chapter from the beginning.

The phone is much more responsive to touch now. Contacts no longer has any delay in trying to scroll or tap a contact. It still takes a second or two to load, but I believe it did that under 1.1.4 as well.

I like the new fade effect with the accelerometer. Instead of the screen using a rotating animation, it now just fades from portrait to landscape. Much nicer.

I like the new E icon for Edge. Easier to see than the outlined box.

Thanks to this forum, I didn't realize the Caps Lock option was off by default. I was wondering why I couldn't turn on Caps Lock after reading about the double-tap feature.

An excellent update!
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Is anyone know that the multiple calendar color bug fixed?
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Originally Posted by iandean1980 View Post

You can make them easy enough on the PC. Below is how. Garage band doesn't actually take and shorten MP3's so unless your writing your own song.. it would be useless to you.

1. Choose the song you want to make a ringtone. (it will need to be DRM free).

2. Now you need to shorten this song to less that 40 seconds. It will recognize it in iTunes if not, but will not allow you to sync it to your phone. Trust me i just tried. You can find all sorts of bits of software out there for the PC that can do this.

3. Save it it.

4. It needs to be in apples .acc format (also known as .m4a). If its an MP3 you can convert this in iTunes. In iTunes 8 its easier, just select the file, go the the advanced menu and click create ACC version.

5. Locate that file in your music folder.

6. Change the extension that it has (either .acc or m4a) to m4r

M4A = Audio
M4V = Video
M4R = RIngtone

7. Drag it into itunes and it'll suck it up

Done

Well, it is actually so much easier on GarageBand. You don't have to change any extension or file names. In GB you use the Media Browser to choose your song, choose the portion you want as a ringtone, and then choose Send Ringtone to iTunes. Everything is automated and very easy
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

Please, lets agree to use another adjective to describe iPhone software update 2.1 then "snappier".

Remember, that was the term used to describe iPhone software update 2.0.2 to correct all the "bug fixes", and we know how beneficial that software update was in fixing all the "bugs".

Lets not jinks it by have 50 posts saying "its snappier" is all I'm saying.

is APPLE paying off people to post 'good' things about this update to confuse us??
I knew i should've waited - but since i read the post in here - i thought well Heck i needed to update and ITS WORSE!!!!! URRRRRRRRRGH i am getting so mad at APPLE ... Steve J. are you reading the blogs and the post in here???? its NOT better... its worse... my phone is acting like a Windows PC running 'OS '98

i want to get a verizon phone now i hear its better recept and just works or maybe a dare i dunno-- they better fix this crap and FAST. They are losing a real APPLE HARD CORE FAN , i usually defend APPLE products but i am getting more & more disillusioned with my 3rd iphone replacement so far ---

DON"T UPDATE I WARN YOU.... wait until they review this on the blogs and other post here.... so, so unhappy with my i-phone--- yea and please don't tell me to return it and get my $$$ back --
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From cover-flow mode, start playing a music video. Pause the video and click Done. The iPhone returns to portrait mode, even though the device is being held in landscape orientation. The only way to return to cover-flow is to rotate the iPhone to portrait orientation and then back to landscape.
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I hope no one said this before, and I'm reeele sorry If I posted this again lolz \

Anyways, before the update. I tried the tripple clicking the mic button on the iPhone head phones and it did not go to the previous song (or to the beginning). After the update I tried it again and it worked. Has anyone got a chance to try the new headphones on the iPhone yet with the volume -/+ working? The Apple site still says it's not compatible with the iPhone 3G but something tells me it is

First time posting - yay
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I used to only get 1 bar of 3G reception in my house (when other phones would get full on the same operator), but after upgrading to iPhone 2.1 I'm getting full reception.

The SMS application is still slow, however.
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I'm installing it right now, so we'll see how it goes. Although, for the most part, 2.0 was fine for me. The biggest issue I had with it was that TETRIS was constantly crashing, but they made an updated app release a long time ago. Since then, it's been running great for me.
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Originally Posted by killbunnysforbois View Post

I hope no one said this before, and I'm reeele sorry If I posted this again lolz \

Anyways, before the update. I tried the tripple clicking the mic button on the iPhone head phones and it did not go to the previous song (or to the beginning). After the update I tried it again and it worked. Has anyone got a chance to try the new headphones on the iPhone yet with the volume -/+ working? The Apple site still says it's not compatible with the iPhone 3G but something tells me it is

First time posting - yay

The question is whether the volume controls will work. Apple doesn't list the iPhone as being compatible but I think they will be since it's only a singling that is sent over the mic connector. I'm betting it can be enabled, but we may not know until they hit the shelves next month.
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post #227 of 315
Had to wait until I got home from work this afternoon, but both my iPhones (1 2G & 1 3G) have been updated. Both phones updated successfully the first time, with no errors or re-trys.

No problems so far - both phones are running fine. I turned push on both units to see in a few days, the battery life fix (will report back on this).

Apps load quickly, backups fast (mine were usually fairly quick anyway). Both phones have at least 10 apps, no problems with them either.
Don't live in a 3G coverage area, so I can't speak to speeds (a network issue anyway), but I can attest to call quality, which is extremely good, also for both.

All in all, I'm impressed with this update!
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The question is whether the volume controls will work. Apple doesn't list the iPhone as being compatible but I think they will be since it's only a singling that is sent over the mic connector. I'm betting it can be enabled, but we may not know until they hit the shelves next month.

Aww, I thought those earphones were out. \ Anyways I think it would be great if the iPhone 3G supported those earphones though, it would be very useful
post #229 of 315
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Duh- that's why we create playlists and shuffle within the playlist.
DO you also own a mood ring?
Do you have your Biorhythms checked regularly?

Well this saves the time of making the playlist in the first place!
I to have my own playlists but they are usually based on music I know and listen to on a regular basis, mine use the star ratings to select the music.

With the Genius playlists I have found that I am listening to music that I would not normally have selected BUT (and this is the important bit), I am enjoying the selections it has made. It selects music from my 18,000 song library that I have in some cases never listened to (or rarely).

Just because you don't like the feature don't tell everyone it is no good, for some like me it is great.
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Originally Posted by FloorJack View Post

Yes! Mine doesn't seem to be working. I had it off all the time before 2.1. I tuned it back on to test Remote and although I get the BT icon at the top it does appear to be lit up. It wont connect to my computer.

The Remote application uses WiFi NOT Bluetooth!
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Originally Posted by bitzandbitez View Post

is APPLE paying off people to post 'good' things about this update to confuse us??
I knew i should've waited - but since i read the post in here - i thought well Heck i needed to update and ITS WORSE!!!!! URRRRRRRRRGH i am getting so mad at APPLE ... Steve J. are you reading the blogs and the post in here???? its NOT better... its worse... my phone is acting like a Windows PC running 'OS '98

i want to get a verizon phone now i hear its better recept and just works or maybe a dare i dunno-- they better fix this crap and FAST. They are losing a real APPLE HARD CORE FAN , i usually defend APPLE products but i am getting more & more disillusioned with my 3rd iphone replacement so far ---

DON"T UPDATE I WARN YOU.... wait until they review this on the blogs and other post here.... so, so unhappy with my i-phone--- yea and please don't tell me to return it and get my $$$ back --
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I held off until I read through this entire thread, then started the update download, which was about when this thread was on page 20. So far, no troubles for me. I was going to wait, but really, my needs aren't demanding. If I thought that I might get calls too important to my livelihood to miss, then I'd wait a week or so to make sure there weren't any major issues.

A couple things I've heard suggested, one is if you do a restore, don't restore the backup, that might reintroduce a problem if the backup is storing data that somehow got corrupted, go to as clean of a slate as possible. If you download an app, do it in iTunes. It may help to redownload the apps.
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Originally Posted by saveasnail View Post

I totally agree.... MMS is big in the UK and has been for a long time. So to have the latest all singing, all dancing phone but that cant do MMS is a shock to the system. Most people assume they can MMS you and it is an embarrassment to tell them your beautiful iPhone youve boasted over for so long cannot do something so simple. I dont think it would be too much of a stretch to add it to the phone. This is a phone catering for a worldwide market and just because MMS isnt as popular in the US doesnt mean it shouldnt be on the iPhone.

On the subject of Genius - its a great feature and by far superior to plain old shuffle. With a huge library of songs, it has helped me rediscover music I hadnt heard in a long time. Im not sure why people are so negative about it.

MMS is not big in the UK, it is used but compared to SMS it is tiny.

In May 2008 the UK sent :-

6.8 Billion SMS and only 46 Million MMS.
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Originally Posted by john_howells View Post

I am also a little confused by the "alledged" ability to be able to "...Repeat alert up to two additional times for incoming text messages..."

Having downloaded the updated user manual and looked for a while I have not managed to find any reference to it!

Any ideas anyone???

It is not a user option.
Once you get an SMS, if you don't read it you will get two more audible warnings after about 3-5 mins.
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Originally Posted by john_howells View Post

Thats really interesting, in the UK it is HUGE and literally everyone uses it across cheaper phones and also the top of the range ones. Yes there is a cost attached but I guess we havent caught onto the Email/mobile thing yet. I've got friends of the same age (I'm 28) that use it loads and often get MMS from family members of all ages of pictures from parties of relatives and stuff.

It is not huge in the UK.

In May we sent 6.8 Billion SMS and only 48 Million MMS.
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is APPLE paying off people to post 'good' things about this update to confuse us??
I knew i should've waited - but since i read the post in here - i thought well Heck i needed to update and ITS WORSE!!!!! URRRRRRRRRGH i am getting so mad at APPLE ... Steve J. are you reading the blogs and the post in here???? its NOT better... its worse... my phone is acting like a Windows PC running 'OS '98

i want to get a verizon phone now i hear its better recept and just works or maybe a dare i dunno-- they better fix this crap and FAST. They are losing a real APPLE HARD CORE FAN , i usually defend APPLE products but i am getting more & more disillusioned with my 3rd iphone replacement so far ---

DON"T UPDATE I WARN YOU.... wait until they review this on the blogs and other post here.... so, so unhappy with my i-phone--- yea and please don't tell me to return it and get my $$$ back --
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I have the opposite view to you, my iPhone is working great.
post #236 of 315
Well -I- had a fun experience upgrading...

Since I was using Vista to do it (I say was using Vista cause I'm backing everything up as I write this to return to XP once more), and didn't see the "Vista will fall into the bowels of Hell" post until I was syncing the new firmware. Sure enough the update failed, successfully bricking my phone (1G 8GB). I had to uninstall iTunes and all the supporting files, re-install and re-sync just to get iTunes to acknowledge the phone again. This time it worked and despite that scary moment where my phone wouldn't even turn on for a few minutes I must say 2.1 restores the Apple love to my device. No more glitches, no more crashes, no more restarting to get SMS to not fail. Sorry to everyone who takes life too seriously, it really does feel SNAPPIER!

1/5 - installation
5/5 - application

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post #237 of 315
Yes, I noticed that too. They've definitely turned the loudness up again. The built-ins sound great so why not!

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Originally Posted by iPond317 View Post

Is it just me or are the ringtones louder? Maybe a fluke, but they seem significantly louder!


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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

I didn't even know it was available, except for this thread.



As far as I know, all GSM phones cause some level of interference with audio devices. I hear it very often with my iPhone. Doing it during email (or other data app) is new to me.



You should reply to the proper post rather than quoting an unrelated post. At first, I didn't understand what you were up to when you were quoting someone talking about bluetooth audio.



Is email really more robust?



I really don't see how they couldn't monetize email / IM. Maybe it is easier for them to do so with SMS, but I don't think a multibillion dollar company couldn't figure out how to charge per message for those systems if they wanted to. I think in the end, the business plan is to push people into paying for to data plans rather than charge per email/IM.

Get over yourself or Perish like snapper boy!
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Originally Posted by russco View Post

I make heaps of ringtones from my music with garageband. Don't post unless you google it first.


Can you show me how?
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

Well, it is actually so much easier on GarageBand. You don't have to change any extension or file names. In GB you use the Media Browser to choose your song, choose the portion you want as a ringtone, and then choose Send Ringtone to iTunes. Everything is automated and very easy

I wasnt aware of that.. Thanks.

This was posted however specifically for a windows user. And before people complain, windows people use iPhones too. And mac's aren't perfect, there are some benefits of having windows, don't be so naive. I just prefer to deal with apples faults, than windows.
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