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post #1 of 38
1/10/02 at 3:34pm
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Spymac's reporting two separate sources in distribution that hinted at something happening on Jan. 22. Sounds like a good time for the PowerMacs to be updated; it's in line with the display promotion ending and the 10 day ship time on new PowerMacs.

Here's crossing my fingers...

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post #2 of 38
1/10/02 at 3:37pm
Hope it' not just a silly liitle speed bump to the towers. The imac would still be the better deal
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post #3 of 38
1/10/02 at 3:38pm
Well, if Spymac says it...
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post #4 of 38
1/10/02 at 3:42pm
Well, Flint Center, the usual place where Apple holds these events, has a "blank" space for January 22 in their calender.

<a href="http://www.flintcenter.com/cal/jan02.html" target="_blank">http://www.flintcenter.com/cal/jan02.html</a>

[ 01-10-2002: Message edited by: Nostradamus ]</p>
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post #5 of 38
1/10/02 at 3:48pm
Wasn't the iPod introduction held at the Apple campus itself?
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post #6 of 38
1/10/02 at 3:55pm
The i(ce)Book debut was held right on Apple's campus. I'm sure they could do the same with this, as long as "the press" isn't as pissed at Apple is ding dong Coursey over at ZDNET thinks.

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1/10/02 at 4:03pm
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post #8 of 38
1/10/02 at 4:14pm
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I thougth we all agreed never to go to that place again? They used the pre-MW hype to generate huge amount of hits so they could cash in advertising money now. Don´t feed their pockets when theyt use you like that.

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post #9 of 38
1/10/02 at 4:17pm
AtAT predicts new Power Macs by the 'end of the month'.
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post #10 of 38
1/10/02 at 4:20pm
Spymac blows goats. I have proof.
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post #11 of 38
1/10/02 at 4:30pm
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[quote]Originally posted by sizzle chest:
<strong>Spymac blows goats. I have proof.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don´t believe you unless you give us pictures and video as proff. And no. Not the spymac kind.

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1/10/02 at 4:37pm
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I find Architosh is pretty reliable too.

<a href="http://www.architosh.com" target="_blank">www.architosh.com</a>
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post #13 of 38
1/10/02 at 5:03pm
[quote]Well, Flint Center, the usual place where Apple holds these events, has a "blank" space for January 22 in their calender.

<a href="http://www.flintcenter.com/cal/jan02.html" target="_blank">http://www.flintcenter.com/cal/jan02.html</a>
<hr></blockquote>

Only 11 out of 31 days in January are booked at this Flint Center...so this really doesn't mean anything at all. Also, when's the last time Apple used the Flint Center for a special event? I thought they've been holding events right in Cupertino?
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post #14 of 38
1/10/02 at 5:09pm
I do not find Arcintosh reliable.

The implication behind their prognostications is that they are a professional-oriented site, and therefore their rumors are more valuable or reliable than rumors posted at spymac or A|I or MOSR, when in fact, this is patently untrue, and they have yet to demonstrate otherwise that they are any better at amateur predictions than Mr. Meader or Mr. Plume.
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post #15 of 38
1/10/02 at 5:35pm
not because i believe spymac, but because i have stated here at appleinsider before... i really feel that the PM line will get at least some sort of up-date by Feb 1st...i have no insider info...just i feeling...and have thought that since the new iMac was released (actually before, since i thought that the new iMac would get it's own show)....the PM will be up-dated, and more sooner than later....g

now whether it is G5 of G4 apollo i have no clue or thoughts...hoping for G5 so the power folks here can be as happy as the consumer folks are with the new iMac and the iBooks...g
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post #16 of 38
1/11/02 at 12:13pm
New power macs will be G5. Don't know when though.
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post #17 of 38
1/11/02 at 12:21pm
[quote]Originally posted by Nitzer:
<strong>New power macs will be G5. Don't know when though.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Please try to give more info when stating something like this. Like I know someone who told me, or I can't reveal my sorce but they told me G5s are coming or something to help believe your statements. Even a broad non specific source added to your info will sound a lot more convincing.

So, tell us more !!
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post #18 of 38
1/11/02 at 12:25pm
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Since Motorola haven´t changed their road map not to include the G5 its pretty clear that "New power macs will be G5. Don't know when though.". I´m even gonna go as far as saying that new power macs will be G6. Don't know when though
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post #19 of 38
1/11/02 at 12:33pm
Info is per an Apple employee. Could be completely wrong, but it makes sense. If all they were going to do is speed bump the G4 they probably would have done it at MacWorld.
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post #20 of 38
1/11/02 at 12:41pm
SJ said G4 over the whole line, but that has never been the case. iMac came out with G3 shortly after this they announced G4 in PM. It's the same now. The iMac has a G4 and the PM will get within 2months a G5.
YOu see it all makes sense, like <a href="http://www.architosh.com" target="_blank">architosh</a> almost predicts now.
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1/11/02 at 12:48pm
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[quote]Originally posted by fieldor:
<strong>.iMac came out with G3 shortly after this they announced G4 in PM.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The PM G4 was introduced September 1999 and the iMac was introduced August 1998. So with this kind of logic (which I don´t subscribe to) we will have a PM G5 in feburary 2003.
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post #22 of 38
1/11/02 at 12:51pm
[quote]Originally posted by fieldor:
<strong>iMac came out with G3 shortly after this they announced G4 in PM.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, when the iMac was introduced (middle of 1998), Apple was still selling _beige_ G3 machines. Apple introduced the Blue and White G3 machines around Jan. 1999.

The G4's then came in Sept. 99. So Apple ran with G3's in both the iMac and Pro machines for over a year.

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post #23 of 38
1/11/02 at 1:49pm
Too soon. Maybe in February, but to have another announcement so soon after launching the iMac is marketing stupidity.

You want to maintain momentum but also not to take away the spotlight from the iMac. People are still buzzing about the iMac with it and Jobs on the cover of Time.

Right now, people are ready to place that iMac order. If you start hyping the Pro Towers, you can only confuse and add more factors to a customer decision making process.
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post #24 of 38
1/11/02 at 2:16pm
[quote]Originally posted by satchmo:
<strong>Too soon. Maybe in February, but to have another announcement so soon after launching the iMac is marketing stupidity.

You want to maintain momentum but also not to take away the spotlight from the iMac. People are still buzzing about the iMac with it and Jobs on the cover of Time.

Right now, people are ready to place that iMac order. If you start hyping the Pro Towers, you can only confuse and add more factors to a customer decision making process.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, it would seem to me that for the first time there will be overlap in the consumer and professional lineups. Maybe the low end tower is a speed bumped G4 or G5, but it is priced at what would look more expensive than a similarly equipped iMac. You pay for the expandability that the tower offers.

As an aside... for me the pci slot expandability is becoming less and less of an issue. AGP is a MUST, and maybe one pci slot, but a ton of peripherals are being moved to Firewire or USB, and the power of the processor chips is supplanting the need for processing type pci cards, ala FCP3.
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post #25 of 38
1/11/02 at 3:25pm
At this point the lack of any update a MacWorld suggests that the next update will be substantial. At MWNY in July they had nothing so we got the lame 733 to 867 boost. If that's all they are going to do, it would have already happened.

(Nice logic, eh?)

In other words, I'm pretty certain Apple could've boosted speeds up another 167Mhz at MW if they wanted to. Since they chose not to, something bigger must be on the way. The delay could be for several reasons. Inventory, marketing, chip supply, you name it.

That PowerMacs have gone to a 10 day build time at the Apple Store is suggestive too, as is the $999 733Mhz G4s available at the UCLA bookstore that someone else pointed out.

Something new is coming, and I'm betting we'll see a larger than 167Mhz jump. G4+ or G5 is anyone's guess.
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post #26 of 38
1/11/02 at 3:31pm
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

<strong>AtAT predicts new Power Macs by the 'end of the month'.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just Ghz Apollos according to them, no G5.

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post #27 of 38
1/11/02 at 8:01pm
[quote]Originally posted by Nitzer:
<strong>Info is per an Apple employee. Could be completely wrong, but it makes sense. If all they were going to do is speed bump the G4 they probably would have done it at MacWorld.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I dissagree.

They will sell enough iMacs to ignore the fact that they are canabalizing the pro line until a major update.

And it simply wouldn't make sense to update the entire line at one event.

Apple likes to (wisely) announce something several times a year.

Jan 22 seems plausible, but still seems a little early to me.

We'll see, but i don't expect we'll see new PowerMacs till Spring.
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post #28 of 38
1/11/02 at 8:04pm
Jan 22nd is suppose to be the shipping date for the new iMacs according to spymac not a new product showcase.
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post #29 of 38
1/12/02 at 8:44pm
How about a speed bump with G5 in April after Seybold in February.

G4 @ 1.0 Ghz in February
G4 @ 1.x Ghz in March
G5 @ 1.x Ghz in April

After all Seybold is for Pros like the PowerMacs.

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post #30 of 38
1/12/02 at 8:47pm
Whatever Apple does, I hope they don't just speed bump the towers now and then drop the G5 in July. A lot of people will be pissed.
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post #31 of 38
1/12/02 at 9:04pm
Personally I have decided to buy a G5 whenever they come out. Be it next month, be it next December. I won't upgrade until then. The longer Apple waits, the longer I'll keep my money.
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post #32 of 38
1/12/02 at 9:09pm
right now, apple is in a good position, get rid of the old models of chips and bring in the MONEY (Bling/Bling) with the new models....word :cool:
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1/14/02 at 9:24am
Naked Mole Rat says 1/20~ish for "Showtime with the Apollo".

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post #34 of 38
1/14/02 at 9:51am
What would be funny is if in hindsight this delay in announcing new Powermacs made so much sense : They aren't ready yet, we want to focus on the imac, we want to give the rumors sites a back handed slap. It might make sense from many perspectives.

My money is on the G5.
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post #35 of 38
1/14/02 at 9:58am
moki said that they're still hammering the bugs out of a DDR motherboard. The release could be waiting on that.

It makes sense. A move to DDR would introduce a much greater leap forward in performance than the (probably 20%-30%) MHz increase will suggest.
I'm thinking the machine will be an Apollo. That way, if it's a G5 I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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post #36 of 38
1/18/02 at 9:29am
well it looks like spymac was right. It's always funny when that happens
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1/18/02 at 5:08pm
[quote]Originally posted by David R:
<strong>Personally I have decided to buy a G5 whenever they come out. Be it next month, be it next December. I won't upgrade until then. The longer Apple waits, the longer I'll keep my money.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #38 of 38
1/18/02 at 5:46pm
[quote]
well it looks like spymac was right. It's always funny when that happens <hr></blockquote>

Spymac isn't right until Apple announces new Powermacs next week. Until then, these rumors are all BS.

The low key nature of this event suggests to me that these Powermacs will not have a new Mobo, they will use the same 7450 G4s, with the only change being CPUs clocked a bit higher. That is, IF there is an an event next week. I'm not inclined to believe that there is.
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