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Also beginning Thursday night, the Redmond, Wash.-based software giant will invite visitors to the website to upload videos and photos that will demonstrate "how they, too, are PCs."

lol. I hope there is no "approval" process. Cause I think Mac users would have more fun with that then the people who are "passionate" about their PC.

And after PC users fight WMP and reboot a couple of times they will have lost their video and the rest of their hard drive to a virus anyway. So I'm predicting the majority of PC users won't get to post a video at all!
post #42 of 80
I think Bill just saw Jerry with his Iphone in His Trailer on the set



From CNBC>>>> They started with such fanfare: Microsoft on the offensive, launching a new TV ad campaign, spending $10 million for the services of comedian Jerry Seinfeld, who would be part of a massive, $300 million ad spend.



To say the ads were met with mixed reviews is putting it kindly. Seinfeld joined Bill Gates in these quirky ads that made little sense, had virtually no message, and sent tongues wagging not for their creativity or how compelling they were, but how weird they were instead.

A blog or two speculated tonight that Microsoft would announce the end of those ads tomorrow. I've just spoken to a Microsoft source who confirms the ads will cease, that Microsoft is canceling them after only a few weeks and will be making that announcement tomorrow.

Confirmed.

It's a stunning rebuke for an ineffective concept that seemed misguided from the beginning, and had no chance at all of competing against the wildly successful "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" ads. (I've written a couple of posts recently about this.)

And it's an even bigger black eye for ad firm Crispin Porter+Bogusky. The firm's had a spotty track record with avant-garde concepts that resonate for their strangeness, sometimes more than their effectiveness. Sadly, for Microsoft, this might be another one of those times.

Microsoft tells me that the plan was never to use Seinfeld beyond the two or three ads he's already appeared in. I find that next to impossible to believe. That's a healthy chunk of change for such a tiny amount of work. If true, then Microsoft sure seems to be playing fast and loose with its money, and in an economy like this one, that's a bit of a surprise. If not, why lie about it? It's not like the ads were a secret. We all saw 'em. And most of us had the same reaction.

Just a shame that Microsoft [MSFT 24.74 0.17 (+0.69%) ] didn't have the same reaction before those ads actually made it to air.
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I doubt Apple would respond or brainstorm. Advertising wise, they have M$ by the balls. No response necessary, just tighter grip.

Agreed, Apple don't respond to anyone - they lead......
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lol. I hope there is no "approval" process. Cause I think Mac users would have more fun with that then the people who are "passionate" about their PC.

And after PC users fight WMP and reboot a couple of times they will have lost their video and the rest of their hard drive to a virus anyway. So I'm predicting the majority of PC users won't get to post a video at all!

Agreed. I am already working on my PC user video.
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Apple should come up with some kind of ad pointing out that Macs can run Microsoft Windows too. ...

How about this:
NYC streetscene (downtown)

A businessman is playing the Microsoft advertisement on some kind of tiny screen POS WinMobile device, and as the camera zooms out the add sputters and fails. He's obviously having problems.

We see a person beside him casually holding an iPhone who smiles shows him the same ad running smoothly in wide-screen.

That person then turns and shares a knowing glance with a third person sitting on a bench to one side. They have a Powerbook on their lap and the same ad runs in a virtual Windows window right on top of Mac OS-X.

All this is happening just as the original MS ad is going on about how Windows runs on all types of devices ...
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This thread is fun, but ppl are kinda missing the big picture...

The way these things work is usually a progression along these lines:

Step 1: IGNORE
Step 2: RIDICULE
Step 3: ATTACK
Step 4: COPY
Step 5: STEAL

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This is also an accurate description of the history of John McCain's presidential campaign, which has gone through all these phases ("copy" being when they introduced Palin and "steal" being when they started running against their own party). To people who think I'm needlessly introducing politics to this discussion, it's not needless. I'm pointing out that Microsoft is engaging in blatant identity politics in their campaign. They're not talking about benefits of their product, they're talking about the people who use them and implying that denigrating their product is denigrating the "real" people who choose them. It's an admission of Microsoft's defeat by the criteria Apple uses and thus they seek to change the criteria of winning.
post #47 of 80
Has anyone else seen the Windows "Mojave" ad(s)? I'm not sure if it's just one ad or if they have several featuring different people.

As though it's shot with a hidden camera, the ad features regular people being shown a "new" version of Windows called "Mojave". There are lots of "Ooohs" and "Ahhhs" and even a "That's cool," but whatever they're looking at (i.e., features, applications, UI, etc.) is never shown or described.

Then it's revealed that they've actually been shown Windows Vista. "THAT'S Vista??" is the universal response among the "surprised" people. The ad closes with a narrator inviting viewers to "Come see what they saw..." at a Microsoft website. I haven't bothered.

Is this ad part of Microsoft's $300m ad campaign or is it something different? Though deliberately mysterious, or at least trying to be, the ad deals with the Windows Vista product directly (so to speak) and could spark curiosity, if not genuine interest, with some people. It definitely seems much more effective than either of the Seinfeld ads, by itself or as a teaser for a lengthier ad series.

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Apple should come up with some kind of ad pointing out that Macs can run Microsoft Windows too. [snip]

Phrase it as being able to "choose" between OS X and Windows on one machine, and any Microsoft ads about walls begin to look especially silly.

What is especially silly is that without a proper right click on MacBook/MacBookPro it is difficult to use Windows, or OS X for that matter, unless you buy a mouse and forget about the whole trackpad altogether.

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What is especially silly is that without a proper right click on MacBook/MacBookPro it is difficult to use Windows, or OS X for that matter, unless you buy a mouse and forget about the whole trackpad altogether.

. . . or just tap with two fingers at once.
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Hoo boy, it's about to get interesting. I'm eager not so much to see the MS ad(s) but to see if/how Apple will respond. I suspect they're in meetings right now, brainstorming possible responses and are calling Hodgman to see how soon he's available.

Here's a good idea of how to retaliate, why not have a commercial showing each of Apple's different computers, all running XP/Vista? I mean, if you really need Windows, you can run it on a (new) mac...
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this.
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. . . or just tap with two fingers at once.

Windows uses right click a lot more than Mac. It would be nice to right click hold and drag for example to copy files. But I don't want to hijack this MS TV ad thread into a rant about no right click buttons. Apple has been digging their heels in about this issue for years. It wouldn't kill them to have another button - especially if they want to advertise that it runs Windows.

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. I'm pointing out that Microsoft is engaging in blatant identity politics in their campaign. They're not talking about benefits of their product, they're talking about the people who use them and implying that denigrating their product is denigrating the "real" people who choose them. It's an admission of Microsoft's defeat by the criteria Apple uses and thus they seek to change the criteria of winning.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

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One word - sad.

Another word: Lie.

Users happy with their PCs? Surely...NOT.

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post #55 of 80
At least the two companies haven't stooped to politcal style ads. I'm waiting for that to happen someday. "Steve Jobs wants you to buy more iPods. Steve Jobs wants you to only use media purchased from his store. Steve Jobs made the iPhone buggy on purpose so you'll have to buy a new one next year. Steve Jobs wants your children to recycle all of the iPods sold by him and now in landfills. Steve Jobs, he hates the planet..... and he hates you." - Paid for by Ballmer for America.

That would be funny.
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Windows uses right click a lot more than Mac. It would be nice to right click hold and drag for example to copy files. But I don't want to hijack this MS TV ad thread into a rant about no right click buttons. Apple has been digging their heels in about this issue for years. It wouldn't kill them to have another button - especially if they want to advertise that it runs Windows.

Now I see your point. There's more to right-clicking than bringing up a context-sensitive
mini menu. But you're right about the heels being dug in, also . . .
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Right now, I don't want anything to change. I think we might be in a sweet spot, where microsoft's dominance in the mass market forces Apple to define itself as a narrower, more expensive but superior experience.

If microsoft failed or apple gained more market share would apple still need to treat us so well.

I have never owned a Mac, but I went into an apple store to check out the iPhone. While I was there, the staff spent 30 minutes demonstrating all the processes and setup for connecting my legacy email accounts to the phone. Looking over the table, I see a very elderly couple with a big stack of papers, while the apple staff helped them turn it all into wedding invitations. A guy came in with some hardware fault on his Mac Pro, the guy that took it from him promised to repair it personally in the workshop out back, then the customer joined a workshop for an hour to see the new features in Leopard. By the time that was finished, he went upstairs and walked out with his Mac Pro fixed. I must have spent 2.5 hours in there chatting with the enthusiastic and knowledgable staff. At no time was I ever hassled to buy anything.

I know that when I buy my first Macbook soon, if there is anything I cannot get working, I can just pop into the Apple Store and sit for 30 mins with someone, for free, and they'll walk me through.

There will be bumps along the way, but no viruses. How can smaller differences in features matter when a customer is empowered that much?

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post #58 of 80
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

Apple should just incorporate it in their ads by having Hodgman run on the set and out of breath and the Mac guy asks where PC has been and PC can say "moonlighting for MS as a PC. (a brief pause) Literally!" (I think that succinctly says it all)

That is a great idea.

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In the apple ads, isn't Pc supposed to represent the operating system and not the user?
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Yes. I thought I'd just add the question; Doesn't it seem to anyone else besides me that the Microsoft ads make the family members to appear to be dolts?. Not a good thing to make your customers seem dolts or bizzare. Maybe my perception is wrong though.

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Right now, I don't want anything to change. I think we might be in a sweet spot, where microsoft's dominance in the mass market forces Apple to define itself as a narrower, more expensive but superior experience.

If microsoft failed or apple gained more market share would apple still need to treat us so well.

I have never owned a Mac, but I went into an apple store to check out the iPhone. While I was there, the staff spent 30 minutes demonstrating all the processes and setup for connecting my legacy email accounts to the phone. Looking over the table, I see a very elderly couple with a big stack of papers, while the apple staff helped them turn it all into wedding invitations. A guy came in with some hardware fault on his Mac Pro, the guy that took it from him promised to repair it personally in the workshop out back, then the customer joined a workshop for an hour to see the new features in Leopard. By the time that was finished, he went upstairs and walked out with his Mac Pro fixed. I must have spent 2.5 hours in there chatting with the enthusiastic and knowledgable staff. At no time was I ever hassled to buy anything.

I know that when I buy my first Macbook soon, if there is anything I cannot get working, I can just pop into the Apple Store and sit for 30 mins with someone, for free, and they'll walk me through.

There will be bumps along the way, but no viruses. How can smaller differences in features matter when a customer is empowered that much?

You surely must not be an AAPL stock holder.
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post #59 of 80
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Windows uses right click a lot more than Mac. It would be nice to right click hold and drag for example to copy files. But I don't want to hijack this MS TV ad thread into a rant about no right click buttons. Apple has been digging their heels in about this issue for years. It wouldn't kill them to have another button - especially if they want to advertise that it runs Windows.

The Mac OS has had right-clicking contextual menus built-in since OS 8.6, I believe. You don't NEED a second mouse button, it's optional. The Apple method has always been to use Command Keys and mouse. The Mac Os can be run almost exclusively from the keyboard, in fact.

Multiple button mice have been available from third parties since around 1986. I had a Kensington Turbo Mouse trackball with 2 buttons. It was controllable via software. You've been free to buy any third-party multiple button mouse for 20 years.

The Apple Mighty Mouse that ships with every desktop Mac (except the mini) has been available for what, 3 or 4 years and while you can't SEE the right button, there is indeed a built-in right button. Apple uses a rocker switch instead of separate switches for left and right clicking. It can be activated or not using the Keyboard and Mouse System Preference.
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Jeez Microsoft - isn't it enough that you copy all Apple's user interface ideas? Now you have to copy their ad campaign too?

That's EXACTLY how Apple can respond to MS's new ad. Hilarious!

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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi

OR... "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you die." Somehow, it's just not as uplifting a message.

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He GOT WAY to much (Much more then 10 million when the show sold). The show was not worth 10 million when it sold, let alone nearly 1 BILLION???

Getting rid of him, is a good thing, but it's not going to matter who they get

It's worth what people pay. An individual's opinion doesn't really matter on this if other people are plenty willing to pay anyway.

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What is especially silly is that without a proper right click on MacBook/MacBookPro it is difficult to use Windows, or OS X for that matter, unless you buy a mouse and forget about the whole trackpad altogether.

I never liked the fingerwagger anyway, I always took my mouse whenever I could.

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Has anyone else seen the Windows "Mojave" ad(s)? I'm not sure if it's just one ad or if they have several featuring different people.

AI did a story on it a few weeks ago.

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In the apple ads, isn't Pc supposed to represent the operating system and not the user?

I really hate big companies that try to be "indie" or define their customers as individuals. how about they advertise the actal product.

That's what they usually do. Big companies tend to misunderstand a "scene" (for the lack of a good word to describe it) and just promote it all wrong.

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Even beyond that. Have the Mac user pull up in an Audi/BMW (with built-in iPod integration), being very smug about the latest music to come out of <pick your fashion capitol>, talking about "haute" architecture/design, being dismissive of any opinions the PC user has. Make the Mac user seem obsessive in their following of high-end culture, and really play up that feeling one gets when they encounter someone like that. Make the PC user intelligent, but have a much more approachable and common-sense outlook on things.

In other words, a twist on the Grey Poupon ads.
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The Apple Mighty Mouse that ships with every desktop Mac (except the mini) has been available for what, 3 or 4 years and while you can't SEE the right button, there is indeed a built-in right button.


The single worst piece of hardware Apple makes and arguably the worst mouse ever created with the possible exception being the hockey puck design.

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post #64 of 80
Microsoft. Putting the "bogus" back in Bogusky.

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Apple uses a rocker switch instead of separate switches for left and right clicking.

Close, but it's actually a two-part touch sensor just under the shell, if I'm not mistaken.
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Some how, I was starting to warm up to the Seinfeld's version of Bill Gates, even though the commercials were making fun of Microsoft's own market base. Because of committee (mob) decision making... their commercials will always fail, like their OS, it won't succeed until they go back to a singular person's vision (MS-DOS) of how it should work.
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"One new Microsoft commercial even begins with a company engineer who resembles John Hodgman, the comedian portraying the loser PC character in the Apple campaign," according to the Times. "'Hello, Im a PC,' the engineer says, echoing Mr. Hodgmans recurring line, 'and Ive been made into a stereotype.'"

Poor baby! Has that mean old Apple been bullying you again? Here... let me buy you a copy of the Ultra Professional Unlimited Unrestrained Super Better Than Sex version of Vista and maybe that will make you feel better. What? You want SP1 with it? Well, okay... but just this once.

I'm beginning to think that the $300 million is not so much for the ad campaign as it is a bribe to the Media to keep criticism under control.

Until Microsoft realizes that they need to do their job and do it well, they'll continue to suffer. When you're not smart enough to realize (or honest enough to admit) that you're making mistakes, then you are forced to believe (or at least say you believe) that your competitors' successes are due to such things as clever advertising.

A word to the Board of Directors at Microsoft: Management by reaction is not management, and while that approach has worked for Coca-Cola, it has never actually worked in the computer industry. Microsoft must lead, and that means they need someone other than Steve Ballmer or his ilk at their operational helm. Once you do your job, the advertising is easy -- and there is no better proof of that principle than Apple and its "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads.
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Originally Posted by nagromme View Post

Apple should come up with some kind of ad pointing out that Macs can run Microsoft Windows too.

He he - just think what the I'm a Mac spot might look like. PC on Mac? Could get ugly.
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AI did a story on it a few weeks ago.

I clearly missed it. Thanks.

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Apple uses a rocker switch instead of separate switches for left and right clicking. It can be activated or not using the Keyboard and Mouse System Preference.

It's not a rocker switch. I wish it were a rocker of some sort. It's a capacitive sensing system. If your finger is not above the primary side, it reads a click on the secondary. It can even sense a finger a few mm away from the shell on the primary side and still register it as a primary click, even if the force you use is pressing on the secondary side. It's kind of annoying because I like to rest my fingers on the keys, I'm light enough on the touch to not click buttons, so I have to move my primary finger away in order to do a secondary click.
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And now Apple is issues with many printers not working with 10.5

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But there is a cure

Holy crap, whats the cure? My Samsung Laser Printer literally worked yesterday, and does not work today, and I ahve no idea why. But I've seen it since 10.4. Steer me, Obi Wan, in the right direction....
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Some how, I was starting to warm up to the Seinfeld's version of Bill Gates, even though the commercials were making fun of Microsoft's own market base. Because of committee (mob) decision making... their commercials will always fail, like their OS, it won't succeed until they go back to a singular person's vision (MS-DOS) of how it should work.

Those commercials dont make much sense, but I gotta admit, when Bill Gates snatches the Chinese Food and runs away blurting out "I have Nothing", I fell out of my chair laughing.

I REALLY enjoyed watching Bill Gates the actor, I dont know why. He's likeable.
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I don't want to start a flame war, but I spend about half my time in Windows (at work) and the other half in OS X (at home), and there are a *few* things I like better in Windows:

- Load/save dialogs are better than OS X
- Font rendering is cleaner/clearer
- Windows Explorer is a better file manager than Finder
- Table controls, tree controls, and sliders look better
- Disc burning is more intuitive

But overall I prefer OS X. You can't expect something to be better in every single aspect because some things are tradeoffs.

Here's hoping Apple gives you credit when they improve OS X using your list!

It seems it wasn't that long ago that Macs were stereotyped as "toys". Apple's response was to innovate. M$ introduces ads. As Peter Drucker said: marketing and innovation bring in revenue and everything else reduces revenue.
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post #73 of 80
Why would Microsoft care? They don't sell hardware and they love that some Mac users are spending $300+ for a retail copy of Windows to run with Boot Camp or Parallels. So it seems Microsoft wins either way.

However, the real-life PC users would be fun to see..."Damn it! Another virus, more spyware, crashing programs...but I really love my Windows!" Or, "I saved a file, but now I don't know where it is because Windows is so user friendly."

The Windows Mojave commercial is really stupid. "Your actually looking at Windows Vista....response...No way?" Come on....they can't be that stupid?
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Windows uses right click a lot more than Mac. It would be nice to right click hold and drag for example to copy files. But I don't want to hijack this MS TV ad thread into a rant about no right click buttons. Apple has been digging their heels in about this issue for years. It wouldn't kill them to have another button - especially if they want to advertise that it runs Windows.

Please, Apple, do NOT give into the awful split-button thing that Windows laptops use. Then it matters WHERE on the pad your hand is, and you have to do different thumb contortions just to make a left-click! With Apple's solution, no matter whether your hand is to the left or right, you can always get a left-click easily. Good design--and good OS design not REQUIRING right-clicking, too.

BTW, there are three ways to get a right-click if you need it:

Ctrl-click.

Two-finger tap (ideal for me).

Two fingers on the pad, and click the button. If you don't like tapping, this is much nicer than having to deal with the split.

Throw in Apple's pinch-zooming, control-zooming, 360-degree scrolling, and 3-finger forward/back, and I'd certainly never want to settle for a PC trackpad. Not even when running Windows. (Which I do via VMWare, giving me even more freedom to customize how right-click work if I feel the need.)
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Does anyone actually *pride* themselves on using PCs? I mean really come on.

You know, Microsoft would do better if they actually spent time innovating Windows and adding useful features, programs to use with it. Every Windows version has the same quirks of changing settings such as in Display settings from way back in Win95 days. MS should add some cool tight apps to go with Windows. Has anyone ever used Movie Maker. What a terrible application.... It has potential but looks like it was put together in an all-nighter weekend with no substance. Windows Media Player would be cool if it didn't suck so bad...rebuffering gets old when you're just skipping or rewinding a small video on the C: drive.

I'm not a hater! I'm just hard on deliberate lack of trying. Microsoft is the 'F' student that always sits in the back row interrupting the class for attention and begging answers off of the 'A' students.

One day, Microsoft will see the light, I just wonder if it will be in time.
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Originally Posted by TBaggins View Post

This thread is fun, but ppl are kinda missing the big picture...

The way these things work is usually a progression along these lines:

Step 1: IGNORE
Step 2: RIDICULE
Step 3: ATTACK
Step 4: COPY
Step 5: STEAL


...

Nonsense and I love Mac's.

Note Jobs never talks about DOCK! Google Y'Z'Dock to find the inventor.
MSFT invented INDEXING but APPLE got it done first in OSX then came vista, so you THINK that they are stealing when it's the other way around.
MSFT has bailed out APPLE many times, no MSFT, and there would be NO Apple.

Widgets? Gadgets? Hello, even google has widgets.

Time Machine? System Restore, a long time before time machine.

And mac users tend to be stupid too, I don't know why but they are, typical mac user hasn't a clue about 667 FSB vs 1000FSB, not to mention Apple charging $500 or more for $120 memory.

Still, check this, on a macbook, the GPU benchmarks used to be 71%, then 104% then 140% then 171% open GL on a macbook, sure, you could not play games but you could run motion, so what did apple do? They crippled it. Now its 71% and no motion, so they cripple it for the less than 1% of the marketshare users, the PROS that MADE apple famous.

Add to that the iMac's used to be in MATTE for GRAPHIC PRO'S and now that they are more powerful, it's all GLOSSY = NON PRO USE as the color correction is all wrong.

Through in that Apple DUMPED standard FIREWIRE (TEXAS INSTRUMENTS) on the MACBOOKS and iMACS and you have LOTS of problems with FIREWIRE PRO AUDIO/VIDEO devices, forcing pro's to get a MAC PRO or MBP and if you want games, the same.

Here's a PRO link on FIREWIRE on the APPLE LINE and when they DUMPED to a cheaper firewire chipset.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-feb-08-a.html

Take off the rose colored glasses and realize that 1) EXCHANGE and 3rd Party app's (Hello mobile me nightmare and no PUSH and dealing with 3rd party apps not as easy as APPLE thought it would be and MSFT is doing pretty good, especially considering if they wanted, MSFT could swoop in (if they said the HECK with ANTI TRIUST), Nvidia, ATI, INTEL, HP, GOOGLE and still have 90% of the market and dominate everything.

Please, don't be a typical fan boy (or girl) who is misinformed.

Apple stole many of their idea's and yet people STILL to this day think it's the other way around.

Amazing.
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If Apple is worried about still using "I'm a PC".....here's the new commercial:

Hello I'm a Mac
...and I'm Windows.

Get STRAIGHT to the point - no PC, f*%&king WINDOWS.

or better yet...

I'm Bill Gates.
post #78 of 80
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Originally Posted by hiimamac View Post

MSFT has bailed out APPLE many times, no MSFT, and there would be NO Apple.

That's such a misrepresentation of the actual events that I almost passed out from the shock that some people actually believe that to be true. Wow!

Do some research please. Hint, evaluate your data.
post #79 of 80
Here's a PS to, or segue from, jeffharris's sig line, "Macintosh: It just WORKS!":
"Vista--It just labors."

Incidentally, here's my submission to any contest that might exist for MS's next $10 million ad commission:

Graphic: a triptych done in Bosch style. The center panel shows the Apple Guy in a black turtleneck and beret with a Mephistophelean smile. He's holding an apple in each hand, extending them to the characters in the left and right panels. A legend on a label on (or tray beneath) the left hand apple reads, "Try it, you'll like it." The right-hand label reads, "It's tasty--a little bite'll do ya."

The left panel shows Adam turning his face away in horror and shielding his eyes with one hand while extending his other hand, palm facing the center, in a gesture of refusal. The right panel shows Eve in the same posture.

Foot-line: "Just Say NO!!"
(Possible credit-line: Drag Enforcement Agency)

Above the border of the whole item would be the headline: "Snapshot from a Ballmer daydream."
post #80 of 80
White stage. John Hodgman on the left. Justin Long on the right.

Justin: Hello, I'm Justin Long.

John: And I'm John Hodgman.

Justin: For the past 2 years, we have appeared in a series of humorous commercials for Apple where we personify what a Mac is versus what a PC is.

John: These commercials are fun.... But, Justin's not really a Mac... And I'm not really a PC. And if you think you are a PC... please... get some help!

Justin: Yeah... Because that's just weird!

Fade to Apple logo.
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