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Any hint on how these compare against the current X3100 in the Macbook?

Most likely, unfortunately, whatever nVidia GPU is in the MacBook won't be that much better than the X3100. Unless it is at least an nVidia 8400 but that seems unlikely.
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Most likely, unfortunately, whatever nVidia GPU is in the MacBook won't be that much better than the X3100. Unless it is at least an nVidia 8400 but that seems unlikely.

Are you sure about that? The X3100 really isn't great. Whilst the nVidia integrated units still don't compare to the dedicated counterparts, I was under the impression that they were still a vast improvement over Intel's offerings.

Don't suppose you have any links to comparisons between Intel and nVidia integrated GPU performance?
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Are you sure about that? The X3100 really isn't great. Whilst the nVidia integrated units still don't compare to the dedicated counterparts, I was under the impression that they were still a vast improvement over Intel's offerings.

Don't suppose you have any links to comparisons between Intel and nVidia integrated GPU performance?

Okay, I found this link.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-...ist.844.0.html

Now, the X3100 is far below, look at the 3DMark06 benchmark which shows X3100 as having only 500 or so 3DMark06 points.

The issue, as I suggest, is that even if you look at the nVidia 8400 M it's theoretically twice as good as the X3100... at about 1000 3DMark06 points... However, this is not a good 3DMark06 score.

For smooth graphics, gaming and say hardware-accelerated GPGPU stuff, you'd need to look at the 3DMark06 score of around 3000 points at least, going into 2009.

That's the level of the 8600M GT.

The next big question before we go into the 8400M , 9400M , etc etc. is right now, Intel Integrated is not supported by a lot of the new Mac games. GPGPU stuff, well... Will Nvidia mobile GPUs have the same issues? Can I play Command&Conquer3 on my new MacBook? That could be the more pertinent question for the new MacBook GPUs. Mac gaming.

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When talking about the 9-series Nvidia mobile GPUs, things look a bit more promising. It would be very agressive but if new MacBooks had a 9300 mobile GPU, that would be pretty sweet, if all current Mac games are supported. We're talking 50% of a current MacBook Pro performance, which is not bad, if there was 128MB VRAM (even if it was DDR2).
post #124 of 161
So, bottom line, in my view,

Option A
MacBooks: nVidia 8200 - evolutionary improvement from X3100.

Option B
MacBooks: nVidia 8400 or better, then we're talking. But we need to know how current 3D Mac games are supported.

Option C
MacBooks: nVidia 9100 or 9200... Interesting, but same concern as Option B.

Option D
MacBooks: nVidia 9300 or better, should be looking good. High possibility that MacBook becomes an overall mainstream Mac gaming platform if this is the case. In 2009, MacBook will likely be the dominant Mac sold, regardless of the video card in it. If it *is* an nVidia 9300 or better, and all the latest Mac games are supported, it will actually be a big deal. Throw in a bit of OpenCL/ GPGPU/ etc. and it would be impressive.
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Option D
MacBooks: nVidia 9300 or better, should be looking good. High possibility that MacBook becomes an overall mainstream Mac gaming platform if this is the case. In 2009, MacBook will likely be the dominant Mac sold, regardless of the video card in it. If it *is* an nVidia 9300 or better, and all the latest Mac games are supported, it will actually be a big deal. Throw in a bit of OpenCL/ GPGPU/ etc. and it would be impressive.

Nvidia's as-yet unreleased new mobile chipset for Intel processors will have two integrated graphics cores, called 9300 and 9400. They probably will only differ in clock speed, and probably won't be as fast (if you can call it that) as even the 8400. Nvidia likes to play name games.

As for performance, Apple would be very conservative with the driver (favoring stability over performance) and probably underclock the GPU core for thermal reasons. So if Apple were to use this, it would likely be only about twice as powerful as the current X3100.

Like I said in a different thread, I give this Nvidia chipset thing a 50/50 chance of happening. Prepare to not be surprised either way.
post #126 of 161
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So, bottom line, in my view,

Option A
MacBooks: nVidia 8200 - evolutionary improvement from X3100.

Option B
MacBooks: nVidia 8400 or better, then we're talking. But we need to know how current 3D Mac games are supported.

Option C
MacBooks: nVidia 9100 or 9200... Interesting, but same concern as Option B.

Option D
MacBooks: nVidia 9300 or better, should be looking good. High possibility that MacBook becomes an overall mainstream Mac gaming platform if this is the case. In 2009, MacBook will likely be the dominant Mac sold, regardless of the video card in it. If it *is* an nVidia 9300 or better, and all the latest Mac games are supported, it will actually be a big deal. Throw in a bit of OpenCL/ GPGPU/ etc. and it would be impressive.

Option E
MacBooks: Go with Montevina's X4500. I think this is the most likely option.
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post #127 of 161
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Option E
MacBooks: Go with Montevina's X4500. I think this is the most likely option.

That should have probably been Option A.

Like I said, I give it a 50/50 chance of Intel or Nvidia. You think GM45 is more likely, and that wouldn't surprise me.

But here is why I think an Nvidia chipset is plausible: because it would (maybe) shut up two different groups of internet forum complainers who claim, truthfully or not, that they aren't buying Macbooks until their grievance is addressed.

The first group is people who have been complaining about integrated graphics ever since Apple went Intel. Never mind that an Nvidia chipset would be an IGP, or that it would only be marginally faster than X4500. The Macbook tech specs page would say "Geforce 9300" and that's good enough for people who don't know any better.

The second group of people are the whiny babies who cling to their 12" Powerbooks. The black Macbook wasn't good enough for them because it was plastic. The MBA wasn't good enough for them because it didn't have enough ports. Well, now they may get a 13" aluminum laptop with Geforce graphics.
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Here's an image of the entire invite:

Do you guys see anything special?

I do. Or actually don't ... which is the important thing my dear Watson.

Take that PNG file into Photoshop, do a Hue/Saturation and adjust the Lightness to +33. Notice something missing? The bottom part of a laptop. If you look at a current MBP or MB directly from the back with the screen up at exactly 90 degree, you always see the bottom/keyboard part of the laptop where the heat vents are sticking down below the line of the bottom of the screen about 1/4-inch.

That is missing on this "screen".

Four possibilities:

1. It's just a comp that looked cool to design and isn't a shot of any actual hardware.
2. Apple Photoshopped out the bottom part of the laptop to make the screen look cool.
3. Apple has somehow lowered the screen at the back of the laptop with a new hinge system (making it somehow flush with the base of the laptop, i.e., it would touch the table surface it was sitting on.)
4. Or the tinhat idea ... That's the back of a tablet.

Anyone else come up with another possibility?

EDIT - 5. Could simply be a new closed laptop shot directly down with the hinge at bottom (otherwise the Apple logo is upside down). Just thought of that possibility. Any other time Apple's shot a closed laptop?
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post #129 of 161
I have read that the photos show a change from DVI to Mini-DVI ports. That may just be for the MB, but if it is also for the MBPro, does anyone know if there is any problems or resolution limitations to the mini-DVI port?
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post #130 of 161
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That should have probably been Option A.

Like I said, I give it a 50/50 chance of Intel or Nvidia. You think GM45 is more likely, and that wouldn't surprise me.

But here is why I think an Nvidia chipset is plausible: because it would (maybe) shut up two different groups of internet forum complainers who claim, truthfully or not, that they aren't buying Macbooks until their grievance is addressed.

The first group is people who have been complaining about integrated graphics ever since Apple went Intel. Never mind that an Nvidia chipset would be an IGP, or that it would only be marginally faster than X4500. The Macbook tech specs page would say "Geforce 9300" and that's good enough for people who don't know any better.

The second group of people are the whiny babies who cling to their 12" Powerbooks. The black Macbook wasn't good enough for them because it was plastic. The MBA wasn't good enough for them because it didn't have enough ports. Well, now they may get a 13" aluminum laptop with Geforce graphics.

Latest AppleInsider says 9300 or 9400. Name games or not, that's pretty impressive. Like I said. If one can play Command&Conquer3 smooth enough on a MacBook, that's going to be huge, graphically, and OpenCL/ GPGPU wise ... The 9300 does about 2000 3DMark06's, lets say, on the actual MacBook, around a minimum of 1500 3DMark06's -- that's really not bad for a mobile.

So I do agree, it will shut up a lot of people. A discrete GPU. Discrete VRAM. 1280x800 rich 3D Mac games. Fast GPGPU operations. Aluminium, light, with enough ports, optical drive. The Mac gaming industry will definitely be key if the 9300 shows up. They've *got* to make all their games as compatible as possible. The Radeon 2400 in iMacs is actually not that great, so the 9300 is not that far behind.
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I have read that the photos show a change from DVI to Mini-DVI ports. That may just be for the MB, but if it is also for the MBPro, does anyone know if there is any problems or resolution limitations to the mini-DVI port?

I don't think you can do Dual-Link over MiniDVI so doubt the MBP would get them. There should be enough case space on a MBP anyway. If they can't find the space the designers are just being lazy.
post #132 of 161
When is apple thinking of making the 14 Oct keynote public? Like putting a note on there home site? maybe in the news? I can't seem to find anything there.
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When is apple thinking of making the 14 Oct keynote public? Like putting a note on there home site? maybe in the news? I can't seem to find anything there.

Apple events for selected media only are almost *never* announced publicly on the Apple website. At the conclusion of the 14 Oct event, then the Apple website will be updated to fully reflect all new products/ changes.

So besides hanging on every liveblog update from TUAW or AI, just check back the Apple.com website at around 14 Oct Tuesday Afternoon (US Pacific Time)... All will be revealed then.

In the meantime, we continue to go crazy OH THE INSANITY... THERE GOES NEXT FEW DAYS OF SLEEEEEEP.
post #134 of 161
I didn't know where to post this but here are my predictions for tuesday

new macbooks and pros duh!

update to the air duh duh!

then a one more thing... iPhone...over 10 million sold, etc, I mean when will Steve announce that?

introducing the iPhone X ... with a physical sliding keypad to please those with phat phingers

my 2 cents
post #135 of 161
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introducing the iPhone X ... with a physical sliding keypad to please those with phat phingers

that is a joke, right?

When I first saw the Apple invite, I thought "No double-guessing what this event is about". Usually, Apple are subtle about it but it's still obvious what's going to happen and yet people come up with ridiculous predictions. "Not this time" I thought, surely. How could they have been more blatant? This event is about laptops! Full stop! End of story!
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Apple events for selected media only are almost *never* announced publicly on the Apple website. At the conclusion of the 14 Oct event, then the Apple website will be updated to fully reflect all new products/ changes.

So besides hanging on every liveblog update from TUAW or AI, just check back the Apple.com website at around 14 Oct Tuesday Afternoon (US Pacific Time)... All will be revealed then.

In the meantime, we continue to go crazy OH THE INSANITY... THERE GOES NEXT FEW DAYS OF SLEEEEEEP.

I think he was asking when the video stream will be posted. Late Tuesday night? Maybe Wednesday.
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I think he was asking when the video stream will be posted. Late Tuesday night? Maybe Wednesday.

Apple has been very good posting the stream and the podcast. The streams seem to come ~3 hours after the event finishes with the podcast coming the next day, if I remember correctly.
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post #138 of 161
Will the new macbooks be available that day? or are we going ot have to wait till friday or something in the stores (best buy) to be specific. I just want to know if i am going to be able to go get it that day!
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Will the new macbooks be available that day? or are we going ot have to wait till friday or something in the stores (best buy) to be specific. I just want to know if i am going to be able to go get it that day!

No buddy knows, but based on the time of the year, the time between the last revision, and Apple's history since switching to Intel, new Macs will probably be available that day, immediately after the keynote. That does not mean that all new Macs will be available in the stores, but we'll have have to wait and see.
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post #140 of 161
Im going to be a first-time Mac buyer with these new releases and I was wondering, how long does it usually take apple to begin shipping after announcing their products?
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Im going to be a first-time Mac buyer with these new releases and I was wondering, how long does it usually take apple to begin shipping after announcing their products?

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Wasn't there a rumor a few weeks ago that some stores were already receiving shipments of the new MacBooks?

It doesn't matter. There isn't going to be a new mini. I'm going to go cry in the corner now. :'(
post #144 of 161
Okay, I have decided to make the jump to Mac by purchasing a MacBook Pro. I have been researching the different options for about a month now and had decided on the middle-priced MBP. Now, this! I should have my money within a week or so. After Tuesday, how long will it take before the new product is being shipped? Is it even a good idea to buy a new, untested product if one is announced? I don't spend this much money often. Our existing laptop is 4 years old and still works fine, but my husband uses it now and I want to go back to Mac (my first computer was a Mac Classic). Anyway, now I don't know what to do! I guess I'm at least waiting until Tuesday, but then what?
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Okay, I have decided to make the jump to Mac by purchasing a MacBook Pro. I have been researching the different options for about a month now and had decided on the middle-priced MBP. Now, this! I should have my money within a week or so. After Tuesday, how long will it take before the new product is being shipped? Is it even a good idea to buy a new, untested product if one is announced? I don't spend this much money often. Our existing laptop is 4 years old and still works fine, but my husband uses it now and I want to go back to Mac (my first computer was a Mac Classic). Anyway, now I don't know what to do! I guess I'm at least waiting until Tuesday, but then what?

Wait until Tuesday and then get the new model, unless you want to save some money and buy the current models at discounted prices (after Tuesday).
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Okay, I have decided to make the jump to Mac by purchasing a MacBook Pro. I have been researching the different options for about a month now and had decided on the middle-priced MBP. Now, this! I should have my money within a week or so. After Tuesday, how long will it take before the new product is being shipped? Is it even a good idea to buy a new, untested product if one is announced? I don't spend this much money often. Our existing laptop is 4 years old and still works fine, but my husband uses it now and I want to go back to Mac (my first computer was a Mac Classic). Anyway, now I don't know what to do! I guess I'm at least waiting until Tuesday, but then what?

In addition to what Corey stated, buying a brand new device, especially one that has major revisions is always most likely to have more issues than a tried-and-true design. You still get the same warranty options so you that decision is entirely up to you.
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post #147 of 161
Thanks, guys! I was planning on buying the 3-year AppleCare anyway so I guess any bugs would be covered. I can't wait to see what they come out with!

On another note, my main reason for buying the MBP is screen size. The only things I really do are use Office (I'll have to get Office for Mac because all my assignments have to be subitted online in .doc format) and mess around online. I'm not really into gaming or anything else that requires super-fast processing speeds. I just wanted the middle-speed (2.5 gHz) because it didn't really cost that much more. I've actually considered cutting it back to the 2.4 gHz and I keep going back and forth on that one. I guess I'll just have to wait until Tuesday to see what happens. I won't have my money by Tuesday anyway so I won't be ordering that day. I'm waiting on husband's financial aid that included a computer stipend. He already has a laptop he likes, so I'm finally getting my own! Since it's being paid for, money is really no object, but I would like to have a little left to buy some other things. Of course, if the price point gets lowered on Tuesday, I'll be even happier! Okay, I'm going to stop rambling and go to bed! I've waited 10 years to go back to Mac after stupidly making the transition to PC, what's another few days, right?
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In addition to what Corey stated, buying a brand new device, especially one that has major revisions is always most likely to have more issues than a tried-and-true design.

Yes, this is true. However, there are cases where everything goes just fine. Like my 5.5 years old PB 12" which had zero issues in its life. Glad I did not buy the grossly overpriced (in Europe at least) Apple Care.
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On another note, my main reason for buying the MBP is screen size. The only things I really do are use Office (I'll have to get Office for Mac because all my assignments have to be subitted online in .doc format) and mess around online.

If you are going to use Office and you still have your Windows + Office license from your PC, you are much better off if you use a virtualization program like VMware Fusion or Parellels desktop to run a full fledged virtual Windows machine on your MBP (it could be a precise copy of your PC), than buying the Mac version of the Office software!
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Damn you international dateline! We here down under have to wait an extra day. So would those in Europe, Russia, New Zealand those islands in the pacific and anyone else this side of the dateline.

I'm selling next weeks lotto numbers if anyone from the US is interested.
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Damn you international dateline! We here down under have to wait an extra day. So would those in Europe, Russia, New Zealand those islands in the pacific and anyone else this side of the dateline.:

I am I reading your post correctly? If all times are equal, then New Zealand would be getting new products first, just the iPhone release which was sold about 18 hours before the customers in Cupertino, FL.

On second thought. as of this posting, it's 5:00am on Monday 13-OCT-2007, but it's 1:00am on 14-OCT-2007.

Unless, of course, if you mean you have to wait until Wednesday at 6am to start watcing the presentation that started at 10am om Tuesday, then I can see how that would be an pain.
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post #152 of 161
You can buy the new MacBook Pro 15" or MacBook 15" , the lower end model , when it is announced. Just make sure you get the 3 year AppleCare (it *will* save your ass at least a few times), and you should get 4GB of RAM.

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Thanks, guys! I was planning on buying the 3-year AppleCare anyway so I guess any bugs would be covered. I can't wait to see what they come out with!

On another note, my main reason for buying the MBP is screen size. The only things I really do are use Office (I'll have to get Office for Mac because all my assignments have to be subitted online in .doc format) and mess around online. I'm not really into gaming or anything else that requires super-fast processing speeds. I just wanted the middle-speed (2.5 gHz) because it didn't really cost that much more. I've actually considered cutting it back to the 2.4 gHz and I keep going back and forth on that one. I guess I'll just have to wait until Tuesday to see what happens. I won't have my money by Tuesday anyway so I won't be ordering that day. I'm waiting on husband's financial aid that included a computer stipend. He already has a laptop he likes, so I'm finally getting my own! Since it's being paid for, money is really no object, but I would like to have a little left to buy some other things. Of course, if the price point gets lowered on Tuesday, I'll be even happier! Okay, I'm going to stop rambling and go to bed! I've waited 10 years to go back to Mac after stupidly making the transition to PC, what's another few days, right?
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I am I reading your post correctly? If all times are equal, then New Zealand would be getting new products first, just the iPhone release which was sold about 18 hours before the customers in Cupertino, FL.

On second thought. as of this posting, it's 5:00am on Monday 13-OCT-2007, but it's 1:00am on 14-OCT-2007.

Unless, of course, if you mean you have to wait until Wednesday at 6am to start watcing the presentation that started at 10am om Tuesday, then I can see how that would be an pain.

Yeah. He means the latter. We have to wait until Wednesday for the announcement.

Actually, it doesn't matter, because the length of time between the now and the presentation is THE SAME no matter what time zone you're in LOL. Just an inconvenient time for us in Asia-Pacific. Ah well, I'll find out my time (early Wednesday morning Beijing-Perth timezone) when I go to work on Wednesday morning. First day of a new Apple-related job too!!!
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If you are going to use Office and you still have your Windows + Office license from your PC, you are much better off if you use a virtualization program like VMware Fusion or Parellels desktop to run a full fledged virtual Windows machine on your MBP (it could be a precise copy of your PC), than buying the Mac version of the Office software!

Parallels and VMWare are very good, but I'd recommend a native Office version. If you have other Windows programs you must run, then it's worth considering though.

Integration is the main reason - a single platform works more smoothly. If you used Outlook in Parallels then it won't integrate with Mac programs the same way Mail.app does, for example. If there's a problem networking or printing from Parallels then it's more difficult to troubleshoot than a straight Mac program (you need to be competent at troubleshooting Mac, Windows, & Parallels - instead of just the Mac).

(for example, version 2 of parallels attaches your Windows network to EITHER the airport or ethernet card, so if you change how you network in different locations it doesn't connect seamlessly. Perhaps version 3 fixed that.)
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Parallels and VMWare are very good, but I'd recommend a native Office version. If you have other Windows programs you must run, then it's worth considering though.

Integration is the main reason - a single platform works more smoothly. If you used Outlook in Parallels then it won't integrate with Mac programs the same way Mail.app does, for example. If there's a problem networking or printing from Parallels then it's more difficult to troubleshoot than a straight Mac program (you need to be competent at troubleshooting Mac, Windows, & Parallels - instead of just the Mac).

(for example, version 2 of parallels attaches your Windows network to EITHER the airport or ethernet card, so if you change how you network in different locations it doesn't connect seamlessly. Perhaps version 3 fixed that.)

Yeah, it's having to deal with a whole *install* of Windows which is prone to corruption, viruses, etc. that makes it not so worth it if you just want Office. The original poster above can get the Home & Student edition.

Better still, just use iWork'08 and blow everyone away with how awesome your assignments look and feel. Ah, that professional, shiny PDF that comes out when you use iWork'08. Magnifique, as they say... I think.
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how is it that the 3 yr apple care plan could save your ass when buying these new laptops?
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how is it that the 3 yr apple care plan could save your ass when buying these new laptops?

If, within the 36 months you or another person has the machine, you will be covered if something goes bad.
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I am I reading your post correctly? If all times are equal, then New Zealand would be getting new products first, just the iPhone release which was sold about 18 hours before the customers in Cupertino, FL.

On second thought. as of this posting, it's 5:00am on Monday 13-OCT-2007, but it's 1:00am on 14-OCT-2007.

Unless, of course, if you mean you have to wait until Wednesday at 6am to start watcing the presentation that started at 10am om Tuesday, then I can see how that would be an pain.

The last one. Waiting until Wednesday.
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The last one. Waiting until Wednesday.

Off Topic...

I'm taking a world cruise later this year and could have sworn it was stopping at both Newcastle & Sydney. Either they changed the itinerary or I'm losing my mind.

PS: Even if they did change the schedule, that does preclude me from still not losing my mind.
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color macbooks....mmmmm
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