Originally Posted by 460FILMS
The AppleTV product may eclipse the MacMini as a more "modern" product concept in Apple's view.
It's a different market though. The current high end ATV is $329 and the low end Mini is $599. If they remove the optical drive from the current Mini and bring the price in line with what the components are worth, it could go down to maybe $399. This runs the full OS X system and it has a better CPU and would run a good bit cooler than the current ATV so in that respect, it would make a pretty good ATV upgrade.
If they updated it to newer chips and Nvidia GPUs, the price wouldn't drop though and I think they may have to as they can't order any more of the chips inside them. It also would be simply a TV device with component and HDMI outputs and it wouldn't need the newer components. The Nvidia chipset could make it into a decent home gaming system though - it would compete with the Wii and games could be downloaded over the itunes store.
Originally Posted by 460FILMS
I highly doubt that any significantly new or different form factors are likely to be introduced by Apple anytime soon, or ever. No brick, no cube, no mini-tower. Maybe, a tablet someday.
It would be a shame. I saw one of the little Dell towers today and I thought it was great. It might have been the optiplex:http://www.dell.com/content/products...555&l=en&s=biz
Far left of the options. It's the Dell Optiplex 755 Ultra Small Form factor. I configured one with a 3.33GHz Core 2 Duo. It came to $1325. The iMac tops out at 3.06GHz and it costs $2199. The Dell only has integrated Intel X3100 graphics though. Apple using Nvidia integrated would get round this.
It was in a doctor's consulting office I saw it next to a window hooked up to a matte LCD viewing X-Rays. The whole hospital had the same models in every consultation room (I say every room but it was really just a lot of rooms because I got lost, I probably counted some twice - seriously, what is up with the sign posts in those places?).
For there being no market for this, there sure were a lot of doctors using them. Not grandmas, not TV addicts, professionals who need to get serious work done. I'm sure if they had an easy to use unix system, they'd manage a little better. But hey who cares about doctors, dentists, architects, lawyers (you can ignore lawyers) - all those professionals who just need an affordable, attractive little headless desktop.
Of course, who's to say they would
switch but there is certainly no incentive to do so without something to switch to.
Originally Posted by iDave
That's pretty much how I view the iMac too, so Phong's not alone.
Me too. Everybody I know who has them conform to that description. It won't apply to everyone so people who own an iMac shouldn't think it applies to them automatically. The selling point is simplicity and that doesn't affect me at all. I couldn't care less if there were a hundred cables behind my machine. I know what they all do and where they're supposed to go. What I care about is being able to replace components when they fail so I can have as little downtime as possible. Basic users don't care about this. They can live quite happily with their machine at the repair center for 2-3 weeks.