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post #201 of 518
I would not buy the black MacBook over the new one for $100. savings.
New one will be faster due to graphics chip set, penryn CPU, front side buss speed, nicer design and LED-backlit display, 1pound lighter, probably longer battery life, and more.

Look at it in an Apple Store tomorrow.

Good Luck!
post #202 of 518
suddenly my Vista ultimate rig dual boot with Ubuntu doesn't look too bad.

Thanks for making my mind up Apple, I'll spend the money on something else...
post #203 of 518
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Originally Posted by crackbook View Post

ok good point about the cars, but the 'premium' cars you talk about still have very good specs, these macbooks have entry level specs.

This is not true. You people need to stop spreading false information. Dell uses the same CPU chips the MacBook is using in its $1000+ notebooks. No notebook under $1000 is using the Macbook chipset or GPU.

A 1066MHz Bus, DDR 3 RAM, 1280x800 LED screen are not entry level.
post #204 of 518
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Originally Posted by mcl116 View Post

I need suggestions. I've been waiting for 6 months for this update. To me it seems the better value would be to get the "blackbook" from the last line of macbooks for cheaper. Faster processor, more space on the HD, FW ports and for cheaper. Or should I go with the new 13" for $1249 (with educational discount)? I'd also probably upgrade to the 250GB for another $100. Processor speed is negligible for the most part correct? Thoughts? I 100% need a new laptop ASAP though. Please help here!! I am so mad at apple. I sent a complaint on the feedback. Please anybody that thinks screw that I'm just 1 more person it won't make a difference, it takes seconds! We can get a change if we all say something! Apple will open its eyes eventually!

Depends on what you want most, both are fine machines. Overall the new MacBook will be a faster system. The CPU doesn't matter that much.
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Originally Posted by thesmoth View Post

The low-end new macbook (or the middle range macbook now) has a 2.0ghz processor for $1350 or so. The OLD mid-range macbook had a 2.4ghz processor for $1250. His statement is therefore completely correct. What exactly are YOU referring to?

Um, read his comments again and then read mine. He clearly is referring to the NEW MB, not the plastic one.

As for a lower clock speed, we all know (well, those of us who aren't completely ignorant) that the Centrino 2 1066 2GHz is faster than the older Santa Rosa at slightly high clock speeds.
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post #206 of 518
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Originally Posted by Zauner View Post

it's kind of the same C2D processor. So it's a downgrade. No matter if it got a faster graphics chip.

First processor downgrade in history

No, it is not the "same C2D processor." Check again.
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post #207 of 518
cry about it, i'm just winding you up.
post #208 of 518
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Originally Posted by bwik View Post

I don't understand why BMW doesn't just use Kia components to become more cost competitive. BMW would be way cheaper if they used flimsy, outdated parts and ugly designs. Why don't we also fire BMW's management. Who cares if they are profitable, you and I know better. We can easily outsmart the management of BMW and Apple. Shall we start tomorrow?

So your sarcasm is to indicate your belief that OS X computing should be a luxury and not just for practicality?
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post #209 of 518
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Originally Posted by infinitespecter View Post

Of course it is wider, It's using a 13" screen. I said that this is the most complete successor to the 12" Powerbook Apple has made so far. The old MacBooks were larger and heavier with no real graphics card and the Air is positioned for a different market. This is aluminum with a discreet graphics card (albeit with shared memory) and it weighs well under 5lbs. It doesn't have an expresscard slot, but neither did the 12" Powerbook. Until today, I was prepared to go out and buy a Sony 13" notebook because nothing Apple made appealed to me. This does virtually everything I want (well, I wanted BluRay, but I can wait for that) at over a grand less.


The new MB is certainly much more enticing than Sony SZ models and CHEAPER too. Some people (not you, obviously) don't seem to notice this and want to compare cheaply made 15" Acer laptops to the new MB (completely absurd comparison).

My statement about the 12" PowerBook is in reference to those who desire its size. The 12" never had a backlit keyboard, and its GPU was nothing special. In fact, for some things, even the X3100 on the old MacBook is superior.
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post #210 of 518
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Originally Posted by dbot View Post

the missing firewire port is really annoying. it's not just because of cameras..

there are a ton of djs, electronic musicians that use a macbook because of it's size. infact i think that almost all acts that I've seen in the last 3 years had one on stage, but without firewire you can't connect most external soundcards (which you need for djing and performing).

It's really weird that I can't get a mac now. The Pro is too big for my needs and the without firewire I just can't connect my soundcard.


very weird move apple... and I've sort of already gotten over the glossy screen issue

Yeah, it was dumb move to leave out firewire. I too need small form factor and would have liked the assurance of firewire. Apple is smoking bad weed these days with all their product decisions. So really what is the point of the macbook air apart from using it to be a snob? If it were smaller like 8-10 inch screen, i'd get it it would be the awsomest netbook. Speaking of which steve thinks netbook is a fad, Blu-ray is a bag of hurt, HDMI does not support HD resolution (hello its the connector of choice for HD) and tablets are not on their mind. I'm not buying a new mac until they add blu-ray. Was hoping for a netbook guess i'm going to have to hackintosh it. With the ipod touch/iphone they should have BT stereo headphone support, support for their apple radio remote and cut and paste by now. What's with that Nike crap?

With no HDMI, means a mac mini media server is out. Their implementation of DVI is also not standard so trying to connect a mac mini to an AVR with HDMI inputs (using an adapter) does not work without moding the cable. It works as a direct connection to a TV but for some reason does not work through an AVR/Pre/Pro like the integra 9.9.

Also there is no displayport to composite cable which is the first time they don't have one. This is an important cable for me as i use it to hook the laptop to the TV in the hotel room when i travel. This way i can watch my shows or movies or listen to music using the in room tv. I wonder if i connected a DP to DVI adapter to a DVI to composite adapter if it would work.

Also what with silver? Its such a distracting color. Which is why all good tv's use black. Compare it on an silver and black ipod. You focus more on the subject matter then the screen. They tried surrounding the screen with a black border but its still distracting. Silver is the new beige. I would have preferred black aluminum. or better yet black carbon fiber. PCs are starting to get really fashionable. At this point i might even consider a Voodoo Envy 133 and hackintosh it.

Steve said that this would be the best year ever, its so far has been the worst. I've been a fanboy for 25 years but nothing apple has put out in the last 2 years compels me to spend my money. Its all half baked or genius but doesn't live up its its potential.

I wonder what lame, craptacular or half baked product they will announce at Macworld in Jan. Hell has frozen over for me when i say Apple really disgusts me at this point.
post #211 of 518
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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post

Imagine how well these new MB's would have sold if they had added an expresscard slot (so we could get firewire, eSata, etc..) or just kept a firewire port AND also started at $999.

It has nothing to do with cost, if other companies can include expresscard and firewire in laptops for $599, Apple could at $999. Hell, even at $1299 that would have at least been worth it. Apple really screwed the pooch with this one.

Please send comments to http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbook.html and let them know just how dissapointed we are.

Actually, if complainers like you would just do some research, you would notice that there is no 13" notebook on the market with the MB's features (non-plastic, el cheapo case) and specs for anywhere near $599. You are comparing Turion/Pentium 4 Dual-Core/Old 667MHz bus Core 2 CPU 15" PC laptops to the MB, and this is not a fair comparison.

The new MB is in competition with the M1330 XPS and Sony SZ models, and the MB is actually much cheaper than the Sony SZ.
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post #212 of 518
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

This is not true. You people need to stop spreading false information. Dell uses the same CPU chips the MacBook is using in its $1000+ notebooks. No notebook under $1000 is using the Macbook chipset or GPU.

A 1066MHz Bus, DDR 3 RAM, 1280x800 LED screen are not entry level.

Thanks, TenoBell. It's nice to see some posters who actually are aware of the facts and don't just make them up.

People, stop trying to compare 15-16-17 inch PC notebooks priced at $600 with the 13" MB. There is no comparison. Aside from the LED screen (and its size), the CPUs are not the same, nor are the GPUs, chipsets, features, and most importantly, the OS!

I'm not being an Apple fanboy. These are just the facts. Compare apples to apples (sorry for the pun), not apples to oranges.

I do agree with some of the complaints about Apple's going too far high-end. Apple should have released a "lesser" version of the new MB for $1000-11000.
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post #213 of 518
I've thought about this FireWire issue, and come up with a couple of sane explanation on WHYYY THE H@LL FireWire is left out on the consumer notebook.

- Apple has recognized that users with FireWire peripherals are users that will more likely spend more money on their computer. All FireWire peripherals cost a little more than its USB counterpart. So they want us to buy the premium product, so that they can sell the consumer product at a lower price to even more people, and the pro model to even more people, and earn a bigger buck all together.

- Apple marketed the FireWire for consumers in the beginning of the DV camera era. Now they realized that these new video cameras coming up all shoot on SD cards in h264. So future consumers don't need FireWire anymore for video, which was probably the number one use of FireWire amongst consumers (I'm just guessing here.)
(Odd in this context though is that you can buy the cheapest (old design) MacBook in plastic white for $999, and it includes FireWire...)

I would have considered both the Air and the MacBook had they sported FireWire. Now I'm left with only one choice, MacBook Pro. Apple simply tells me what to do, and I don't get to make the choice myself. I don't like it. (And no, the white plastic MacBook isn't an option.)

The new laptops look smashing though
post #214 of 518
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Originally Posted by applebook View Post

My statement about the 12" PowerBook is in reference to those who desire its size. The 12" never had a backlit keyboard, and its GPU was nothing special. In fact, for some things, even the X3100 on the old MacBook is superior.

Yes the 12" PB was essentially an aluminum clad iBook,
post #215 of 518
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Originally Posted by palegolas View Post

I've thought about this FireWire issue, and come up with a couple of sane explanation on WHYYY THE H@LL FireWire is left out on the consumer notebook.

Ten years ago when Intel refused to support FireWire in its chipsets, that pretty much put FireWire on the path to a slow death.

50% of new Mac buyers are coming from the PC. They are mostly buying the MacBook. The overwhelming majority of these people have never used FireWire and will never make common use of it.
post #216 of 518
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Yes the 12" PB was essentially an aluminum clad iBook,

At the time, I chose the 12" PB because of its DVI. Its slightly smaller size and aluminum case were bonuses over the iBook, but I personally needed DVI.
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post #217 of 518
Do you have some fire for my Motu V4HD? It works perfectly in DVCProHD connected to my Black MacBook and I am effectively editing and earning money this way.

And there is no way I will get an overpriced MBP... Because I have still around 2 Dual G4 full of SCSI Disks and RAID ARRAYS, one 4gigs MacBook Black, and one 10gigs Octocore + FW800 Motu V4HD connected in HDSDI to a JVC Vérité DT24-L3D Broadcast LCD Monitor.

Patrick from Paris - No Firewire = No Sale = Pas de Vente

Au revoir.
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post #218 of 518
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And there is no way I will get an overpriced MBP... Because I have still around 2 Dual G4 full of SCSI Disks and RAID ARRAYS, one 4gigs MacBook Black, and one 10gigs Octocore + FW800 Motu V4HD connected in HDSDI to a JVC Vérité DT24-L3D Broadcast LCD Monitor

Au revoir.

You have a recent enough MacBook that there is not much reason for you to get a new one. Just because a new notebook has been released, it doesn't mean that you have to buy one.
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post #219 of 518
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Ten years ago when Intel refused to support FireWire in its chipsets, that pretty much put FireWire on the path to a slow death.

50% of new Mac buyers are coming from the PC. They are mostly buying the MacBook. The overwhelming majority of these people have never used FireWire and will never make common use of it.

So you are saying that PC users have never had any interest in a MinDV camera??? Families that have a MiniDV camera that use Windows Movie Maker have never made common use of FireWire? MiniDV cameras don't use USB on a PC for transferring video, they use FIREWIRE, even on a PC! Sorry, your comment is pointless about the lack of FireWire.

So Apple will continue to advertise iLIfe for the consumer and continue to advertise the ease of use with iMovie and video editing. So when the consumer asks, can I connect my MiniDV camera to this fine consumer-level MacBook? Uh, No, sorry. You have to spend $500 to $1000 more for our MacBook Pro model if you want to use it for iMovie. But I thought iLife was for the consumer? Now the consumer model no longer supports the features of iLife. Smooth move Apple. This bonehead move is as retarded as calling a Power Mac G4 tower "Digital Audio" and removing the Audio In port!!!
post #220 of 518
Hello

I have been patiently waiting for the new macs to come out and have a few questions and observations. I am tentatively planning on buying the 2.4 MB and upgrading the memory to 4 GB.

1) The new MB's state they have 3mb l2 cache and the MBA has 6mb l2 cache. How does the 3 MB L2 compare to the old MB's and how much of a performance difference will the 3MB L2 make compared to the 6MB L2 on the air?

2) I believe it is $135 (educational price) to upgrade the memory to 4GB. Is it cheaper and easier to do this through a place like macmall or is worth just getting it online from Apple directly?

3) Any thoughts on apple care? Is it worth the $185.00 you are charged?

Thanks
post #221 of 518
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Originally Posted by applebook View Post

Actually, if complainers like you would just do some research, you would notice that there is no 13" notebook on the market with the MB's features (non-plastic, el cheapo case) and specs for anywhere near $599. You are comparing Turion/Pentium 4 Dual-Core/Old 667MHz bus Core 2 CPU 15" PC laptops to the MB, and this is not a fair comparison.

The new MB is in competition with the M1330 XPS and Sony SZ models, and the MB is actually much cheaper than the Sony SZ.


gwmac and others are correct. If you compare apples to apples, the new 13" Macbook is a bargain. And, don't forget that with the high-end PC notebooks, you also need to add a significant additional cost for software.
post #222 of 518
Hey Everyone...

I've been reading you guys for the past few months preparing for a MB purchase. Now that they're out, I need your advice. Here's my situation. I'm a high school teacher. I have a late 2007 Intel iMac at home. I use iWeb, iMovie, GarageBand, and Keynote all the time to design presentations and podcasts for class in addition to the normal surfing and e-mail that I could do on any computer. I do some personal video editing and I do like to multi-task using Spaces so I've usually got at least iChat, Mail, Firefox, and one other application open at once. I love OSX and my iMac but have determined I need the portability to really get optimum benefit of using this stuff in class. I also have a 1TB external at home. So HD space in a notebook really isn't an issue, and neither is firewire.

So the question is... is there any real reason other than the cosmetic upgrades that I should spend $300 extra for the MB or should I just go for the $949 base model and live with the whiteness and slightly outdatedness? You guys seem to know the hardware of these machines better than I do so what do you think?

Thanks!
post #223 of 518
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Originally Posted by MiMac View Post

Or to drive people away from the platform altogether.
As someone else here already pointed out, nearly all of the other notebook manufacturers are including FireWire as standard on their new models. Apple , in their infinite wisdom, takes it out! Utterly insane!

Apple R&D has F****d up big time with this and Jobs is a fool to let this happen. Something like omitting a FireWire port costing a couple of bucks is gonna cost Apple dearly in sales. I had been geared up to buy a new MacBook but now I will certainly pass on this ornamental piece of crap. Too expensive to go the Pro option. Man, this sucks!

For "new" Apple computer users without many peripherals, they will never notice the difference. For the average Apple fanboy, this is yet another in a long line of head butts. Apple's drive to future tech leaves everyone who bought into their last batch of products holding the bag. Steve has developed myopia in addition to his other health problems.

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post #224 of 518
Well, I hate to go against the grain here, but I am actually excited about the new Macbook. I can see why people are unhappy about the loss of firewire, but fortunately for me, I don't need it. I used to have a 15.4" MBP, but sold it mainly because I wanted a machine with a smaller footprint. The MBA is too small and anemic for my photography work, which only left the standard Macbook. I honestly miss the backlit keyboard and the LED backlight, and am happy to have access to those again in a 13" machine. I have had trouble with pitting in the past with metal Macs, so I hope that is not an issue with the new machine.

I just ordered the 2.4Ghz model w/ 4GB RAM and the 128GB SSD. Although it won't be a portable movie theater like my current 250GB 2.0Ghz Macbook, I think it will be the perfect machine for my professional life and for my photography.

While I understand and agree with what most people have said about the reception this machine is likely to have given the state of the economy, I also think that new tech offering need to be innovative, as a "Black Sunday Edition" Mac is going to be ignored, as those wishing to hold onto their dollars will just keep using what they have. If any choice that Apple made leaves me with a confused look on my face it is the choice to abandon FW on the Macbook, as they are literally leaving a part of the potential upgrade population incapable of using the new machine. Especially in a unit without an ExpressCard slot, I think it is a mistake!
post #225 of 518
Does anyone know what model of Intel processors are in the new MacBooks?

I would like to compare the 2.0gHz to the 2.4gHz.
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Originally Posted by TBaggins View Post

Sigh... don't know why you keep on minimizing this... incorrectly too.

AAPL closed down 5.60% today. The market as a whole closed down 0.82%. The difference was close to 5%... not "3%"... and not a "couple of points". Another way to look at it is that AAPL dropped almost seven times more than the market as a whole, percentage-wise.

So, let's just face it, the market did not like what they heard.

AAPL always drops the day of an announcement. Always.

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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post

So you are saying that PC users have never had any interest in a MinDV camera??? Families that have a MiniDV camera that use Windows Movie Maker have never made common use of FireWire? MiniDV cameras don't use USB on a PC for transferring video, they use FIREWIRE, even on a PC! Sorry, your comment is pointless about the lack of FireWire.

Panasonic HD cameras that use USB ports

JVC HD cameras that use USB ports

Canon HD cameras that use USB ports
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Originally Posted by edmaster View Post

Hey Everyone...

I've been reading you guys for the past few months preparing for a MB purchase. Now that they're out, I need your advice. Here's my situation. I'm a high school teacher. I have a late 2007 Intel iMac at home. I use iWeb, iMovie, GarageBand, and Keynote all the time to design presentations and podcasts for class in addition to the normal surfing and e-mail that I could do on any computer. I do some personal video editing and I do like to multi-task using Spaces so I've usually got at least iChat, Mail, Firefox, and one other application open at once. I love OSX and my iMac but have determined I need the portability to really get optimum benefit of using this stuff in class. I also have a 1TB external at home. So HD space in a notebook really isn't an issue, and neither is firewire.

So the question is... is there any real reason other than the cosmetic upgrades that I should spend $300 extra for the MB or should I just go for the $949 base model and live with the whiteness and slightly outdatedness? You guys seem to know the hardware of these machines better than I do so what do you think?

Thanks!

I would look at a refurb.

Fast MBPs can be had for less than the new MBs. The new MBs have a nice enclosure but are a weak value IMO.
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Originally Posted by edmaster View Post

Hey Everyone...

I've been reading you guys for the past few months preparing for a MB purchase. Now that they're out, I need your advice. Here's my situation. I'm a high school teacher. I have a late 2007 Intel iMac at home. I use iWeb, iMovie, GarageBand, and Keynote all the time to design presentations and podcasts for class in addition to the normal surfing and e-mail that I could do on any computer. I do some personal video editing and I do like to multi-task using Spaces so I've usually got at least iChat, Mail, Firefox, and one other application open at once. I love OSX and my iMac but have determined I need the portability to really get optimum benefit of using this stuff in class. I also have a 1TB external at home. So HD space in a notebook really isn't an issue, and neither is firewire.

So the question is... is there any real reason other than the cosmetic upgrades that I should spend $300 extra for the MB or should I just go for the $949 base model and live with the whiteness and slightly outdatedness? You guys seem to know the hardware of these machines better than I do so what do you think?

Thanks!

Hi, Ed, you sound like the perfect candidate for the new MB. IMO, you should get the new MB over the white because of (1) the design (2) the LED display (MUCH better than the old one) (3) CPU and GPU (4) and backlit keyboard.

Everything else is gravy
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Steve has developed myopia in addition to his other health problems.

That is a completely unnecessary and lowly cheap-shot. Joking about a person's health is never cool, even in cases when the individual has brought it on himself/herself --and in this case, Jobs didn't do blatant things to deserve poor health.
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Originally Posted by edmaster View Post

Hey Everyone...

I've been reading you guys for the past few months preparing for a MB purchase. Now that they're out, I need your advice. Here's my situation. I'm a high school teacher. I have a late 2007 Intel iMac at home. I use iWeb, iMovie, GarageBand, and Keynote all the time to design presentations and podcasts for class in addition to the normal surfing and e-mail that I could do on any computer. I do some personal video editing and I do like to multi-task using Spaces so I've usually got at least iChat, Mail, Firefox, and one other application open at once. I love OSX and my iMac but have determined I need the portability to really get optimum benefit of using this stuff in class. I also have a 1TB external at home. So HD space in a notebook really isn't an issue, and neither is firewire.

So the question is... is there any real reason other than the cosmetic upgrades that I should spend $300 extra for the MB or should I just go for the $949 base model and live with the whiteness and slightly outdatedness? You guys seem to know the hardware of these machines better than I do so what do you think?

Thanks!

The new MacBook is more than a cosmetic upgrade. It uses a chipset that is twice as fast as the old. Faster RAM which will improve system responsiveness.

The graphics card is 5 times faster and will be a significant improvement for iLife. The graphics card will also play a more important role in Apples next OS update.
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Does anyone know what model of Intel processors are in the new MacBooks?

I would like to compare the 2.0gHz to the 2.4gHz.

Yo, I believe that these are the bad boys in the new MB:

2.4: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLB3S
2.0: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLB53

P.S. The 2.4 should be much faster. Unlike in times past, when Apple's top-end models did not justify their price premiums, in this case, the increase is substantial
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Originally Posted by mitchleeh View Post

People,

I'm new, long time mac user, but have been reading for awhile. If you really want to see your complaints go to good use, and want do see change, then go here (someone else already suggested, but nothing really was done):

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbook.html

Make an official complaint, and I can promise you that if enough of us do it, apple will listen - and HOPEFULLY change prices and problems!

Please please please do it! Complain about whatever you want - just make sure you include the crappy prices!

Thanks!

I just let them have an earful. This decision is completely foolish and will cost Apple dearly in sales for entry-level computers. Un-frickin'-believable!

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post #234 of 518
Interesting advice so far... keep it coming.

Anyone else think the refurb Pro is a good idea at this point? Price points are similar to the new mid-range MBs.
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I just let them have an earful. This decision is completely foolish and will cost Apple dearly in sales for entry-level computers. Un-frickin'-believable!

Well when Apple abandoned floppy disks and P2 ports. People said they were crazy. History repeats itself.
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Originally Posted by applebook View Post

Yo, I believe that these are the bad boys in the new MB:

2.4: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLB3S
2.0: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLB53

P.S. The 2.4 should be much faster. Unlike in times past, when Apple's top-end models did not justify their price premiums, in this case, the increase is substantial

Thank you very much, this does seem to be correct. Cheers!
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These new Apple laptops do look really sexy, and after seeing the vid on Apple's site, I'm conifdent they just might be the best notebooks in the world, but this NOT IN ANY WAY what the computer market needs right now. WHY doesn't Apple introduce a cheaper model to gain market share? Do they want to go all elitist and snobby?

Every day . . . I see listings of high quality Windows machines on the Internet (Dell, Sony, HP) for significantly less money. And, these are not wimp machines; they are pretty well full-featured.

I know, I know; they are not Macs . . . . but they are fully functional tools for students who cannot afford to shell out an extra $300 - $600 for a Macintosh. I think Apple has missed an opportunity to tap into this growing (student) market and convert those young people who will be buying computers for many, many years.

I love my Mac, but . . . . . . just thinking.
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Thank you all for the most entertaining B***h fest I have seen since the iPod mini came out.

Please continue.........
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Interesting advice so far... keep it coming.

Anyone else think the refurb Pro is a good idea at this point? Price points are similar to the new mid-range MBs.

I personally am sticking to my MBP because I don't mind the slightly larger size, prefer the keyboard, the higher resolution LCD, and like the much faster 8600GT over the 9400M. These are my justifications. If your demands are different, then I see little reason for you not to get the new MB.
32" Sharp AQUOS (1080p) > 13" MacBook Pro 2.26GHz. 4Gb RAM . 32Gb Corsair Nova SSD >>> 500Gb HDD
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32" Sharp AQUOS (1080p) > 13" MacBook Pro 2.26GHz. 4Gb RAM . 32Gb Corsair Nova SSD >>> 500Gb HDD
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Why would Apple introduce a lower cost model when it continues to gain market share quicker then anybody else? Unlike the companies offering lower cost models, Apple is actually making money off it's machines. Companies like Dell rely on 1) all the crap that comes pre-installed, or 2) people upgrading to make money. Apple is very competitive for what it offers.

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These new Apple laptops do look really sexy, and after seeing the vid on Apple's site, I'm conifdent they just might be the best notebooks in the world, but this NOT IN ANY WAY what the computer market needs right now. WHY doesn't Apple introduce a cheaper model to gain market share? Do they want to go all elitist and snobby?
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