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post #121 of 185
10/14/08 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

I am considering this one:

Here

If it had a VESA mount (that general style doesn't), I would be more serious about it because some of my alternate uses could really use that.

This is the one that I just bought this past week:-
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...88&catid=25616

It currently has $80 off of it if there are any Canadian users here interested. So far I'm pretty impressed, I know it's not LED backlit or up to the standards off the new Apple Cinema Displays but it fits me and my needs perfectly and for a decent price. It has speakers built in, which are awful and I wasn't really interested in them but in this case, to have it with the built in speakers was actually cheaper than the alternative Samsung 24 inch model that I saw because of the sale so it didn't matter to me. Why does Apple and everyone else here think that we, well, all of us Apple users are professional users only or if not, the kind of people that can afford to spend $1000 on a display? I guess I wouldn't be so annoyed if it wasn't for the fact that I had been waiting almost 5 years for a decent update or even any update really to the Apple Cinema Display line.
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post #122 of 185
10/14/08 at 8:27pm



Another way to look at it.

A keyboard, mouse, external HDD permanently plugged into the monitor.

Plug your notebook in and close the lid, you essentially get both advantages of notebook and desktop combo.
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post #123 of 185
10/14/08 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by AHeneen View Post

By the way, to all those complaining about the iSight & speakers...I'm thinking that Apple was making this more of a docking station (in clamshell mode) than a second display! I'm a bit confused about the speakers though, but maybe it was to clean up a desk area (no speakers with long wires)...I'm sure you will be able to add your own speakers. But for the desktop users and those of us with the current notebooks....?

I assume that the mini Display Port cable sends the audio (like HDMI) to the screen. And the iSight camera & microphone send their data back to the Mac via USB?

Sound right?

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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Another way to look at it.

A keyboard, mouse, external HDD permanently plugged into the monitor.

Plug your notebook in and close the lid, you essentially get both advantages of notebook and desktop combo.

Yes, printer too for home setups. Just plug in 3 cords and you can access everything.

In fact, turn your notebook 90', so the cords are at the "back", and then you've got a DVD at the "front".

Only problem.. external speakers. The monitor doesn't offer a headphone-out so you'd have to plug them directly into the MacBook I guess.
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post #124 of 185
10/14/08 at 9:11pm
The only one that comes close (IMO)...

Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24-inch Widescreen

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...1&sku=320-6272

It's a S-PVA panel with Display-port...but no LED backlight.

$699 CDN

This is the Monitor I'm buying when I get some extra cash...
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post #125 of 185
10/14/08 at 9:31pm
I cant wait for DisplayPort 2.0 so they can get rid of the USB Cabling as well.
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post #126 of 185
10/14/08 at 9:42pm
I think this is not too bad...compare to Dell 2408, a S-PVA Panel, which cost $619.
The ACD with Aluminium Body, H-IPS Panel, Glass and LED Black Light, cost $899.

I think it is pretty reasonable.

Oh, i forgot to mention it is much better looking
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post #127 of 185
10/14/08 at 10:41pm
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Originally Posted by ksec View Post

I think this is not too bad...compare to Dell 2408, a S-PVA Panel, which cost $619.
The ACD with Aluminium Body, H-IPS Panel, Glass and LED Black Light, cost $899.

I think it is pretty reasonable.

Oh, i forgot to mention it is much better looking

You're assuming. There are no documents stating it's panel, that I've seen. Include links.

Now HP has learned something: HP LP2475w 24" LCD Display

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/spe...ecs-_-Main+Tab

Component video, DisplayPort, DVI (2), HDMI

They aren't f***ing over their possible pool of customers by eliminating output choice.

$629.99

The Adjustable Stand is also much appreciated.
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post #128 of 185
10/14/08 at 11:11pm
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Stereo speakers.

Worthless. Integrated speakers are always bad enough that mono or stereo is not even an issue. Besides, the speakers are probably too close to each other for stereo being anything but a gimmick on the spec sheet.

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3 USB port hub built-in.

That's pretty common, no innovation there.

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iSight and mic.

Interesting for 5% of the users. The 95% pay for nothing rather than paying for a better LCD pannel or better ergonomics.

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If I had a public office space I'd by them simply because the way they look would create a good impression to potential clients.

I know some clients that might consider that this just shows that you're wasting their money on fancy show-off stuff rather than on cutting his costs... Having crappy shameful offices has never prevented my companies from winning huge international clients - sadly.

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I love the way everyone is so pissed we didn't get matte screens. I'm a glossy guy

Then, you don't need an IPS pannel. You could have had the same monitor from Apple with exactly the same look and feature but for $500 with a TN pannel. How do you feel paying extras for a feature that you can't use because of the glossy screen.
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post #129 of 185
10/14/08 at 11:16pm
This is the first Blu-Ray Capable External Monitor Apple has shipped. I think this not only means that we'll see an update to the video cards of the MacPros but that we'll also see a Blu-Ray option soon.
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post #130 of 185
10/14/08 at 11:37pm
Something else is coming, soon.

First, they can't leave all of us who bought new notebooks this spring and have MacPros sitting at work with four-year old monitors out in the cold.

A different monitor is coming that will have a different set of cables.

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That said, I like the idea of this monitor. If I were at my old job, I would buy it in a heartbeat. College students will enjoy it, too.

 

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post #131 of 185
10/15/08 at 12:34am
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You're assuming. There are no documents stating it's panel, that I've seen. Include links.

Now HP has learned something: HP LP2475w 24" LCD Display

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/spe...ecs-_-Main+Tab

Component video, DisplayPort, DVI (2), HDMI

They aren't f***ing over their possible pool of customers by eliminating output choice.

$629.99

The Adjustable Stand is also much appreciated.

I'll add the Dell comes with similar connections...

HDMI, Display Port, DVI-D with HDCP and HDMI 2.1 Audio Out.
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post #132 of 185
10/15/08 at 12:51am
Hmm.... This is a strange one. Glossy screen and integrated cables for the new macbook/macbook pro certainnly doesnt indicate a Pro slant. Also has anyone noticed NO HDCP!! I mean come on! For this much money people were crying out for this in the next update. And yes, the extra cables are useless for anyone wanting to use this with a cube/pro.

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I wonder if Apple is going to release an entirely new range of Cinema Displays, without the MacBook charger, and call them something other than 'Cinema Displays'...?

Given the 'shortfalls' this is possibility. Or maybe i'm being too optimistic?

It may just be that Apple will introduce displays without the magsafe for the Pro and just update the cube to include a display port and leave the older macbook's/macbook pro's out in the cold with the option to but the older (circa 04!) cinema displays. I was waiting for a display update with HDCP and a slightly lower price point for my macbook pro.

Disappointing.
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post #133 of 185
10/15/08 at 3:19am
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Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post

Folks let's clear some things up.
This is a IPS panel which means it will not have the nasty colorshift of TN panels. When you see a 24" for $300 it's a TN panel folks.

Let's just hope that whatever panel is inside is better than what is in the 24" iMac: truer colours, and the ability to reduce brightness to humane levels. Although I personally doubt it - Apple have been so successful in the consumer market and are so pleased with themselves with the MacBook, iMacs, iPods and iPhones that frankly I'm surprised they still have a Mac Pro.

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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

A different monitor is coming that will have a different set of cables.

Ha! I would not bet $1 on that. Apple really likes milking their customers for all they're worth -- which I don't mind, as long as the stuff they are offering is above par.

Which, with the new MacBook Pro, is clearly not the case.

On a different note - when I watched the video, I never had any glorious joyful "Steve-o" moment, it all felt rather subdued and mechanical. They probably know they are gambling somewhat with their reputation as concerns professional users. The look on the 3 faces in the Q&A was downright gloomy.
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post #134 of 185
10/15/08 at 4:36am
1920x1200 is a satisfactory resolution for the 17" MacBook Pro. It is not satisfactory for a 24" display. With about the same pixel density as the 17" MacBook Pro, a 24" monitor would boast 2560x1600 resolution. I would buy one for $1500.
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post #135 of 185
10/15/08 at 4:52am
Personally I think it's a very wise choice to have 1 type of digital out instead of 3 (DVI, Mini DVI, Micro DVI); however, was it a good decision to switch to Displayport instead of HDMI? Thoughts please.
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post #136 of 185
10/15/08 at 5:20am
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Personally I think it's a very wise choice to have 1 type of digital out instead of 3 (DVI, Mini DVI, Micro DVI); however, was it a good decision to switch to Displayport instead of HDMI? Thoughts please.

The respective Wikipedia pages for DP and HDMI are pretty thorough but there are plenty of articles that compare the two.
http://www.edn.com/article/CA6594089.html
The only real crux with going with DP is Apple's use of what appears to be their proprietary Mini-DisplayPort. I know know if they can patent a new connector on an open standard interface, but the reasoning on Apple's part to make a smaller connector does seem sound on Apple's part if it prevents them from having to create multiple DP adapters in the future, like they did with DVI, Mini-DVI, and Micro-DVI. Hopefully others will be using this same svelte DP port, unlike Apple's MagSafe with they seem hell bent on preventing others from using
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post #137 of 185
10/15/08 at 5:29am
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1920x1200 is a satisfactory resolution for the 17" MacBook Pro. It is not satisfactory for a 24" display. With about the same pixel density as the 17" MacBook Pro, a 24" monitor would boast 2560x1600 resolution. I would buy one for $1500.

Are such panels even available? Or are you just asking for unicorns? Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's being made or it even has a viable market.

Higher density is fine on notebooks, their portability requires it, and their use generally means the screens are closer to the user. Desktop displays don't need to be such a high pitch, they don't need to be portable and the user can sit a bit farther away.
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post #138 of 185
10/15/08 at 7:17am
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900 bucks for a 24" S-IPS with LED backlight is not expensive at all. If it would not be glossy, I would be very tempted (but with this mirror and without FW-hub they can keep it).

ha-ha, 24'' S-IPS LED monitor, even glossy, would be a great choice for 900 USD
BUT - from Apple site -

24-inch (viewable) LED-backlit thin film transistor (TFT) active-matrix liquid crystal display

TFT LED is much better by color space than simple TFT display, yet, I expect, previous S-IPC Cinema give better color accuracy anyway

It looks like Apple has made a sharp turn to Consumers. Right now I use Ilyama 22'' TFT monitor (good quality for its money) and will upgrade to 23/24 NEC S-IPS most likely. New Cinema is totally out of choice.
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post #139 of 185
10/15/08 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by docyoast View Post

Personally I think it's a very wise choice to have 1 type of digital out instead of 3 (DVI, Mini DVI, Micro DVI); however, was it a good decision to switch to Displayport instead of HDMI? Thoughts please.

DisplayPort is designed for computers. HDMI is designed for televisions. DisplayPort has two main advantages over HDMI:
- DisplayPort is royalty free, and
- DisplayPort supports much higher resolutions.

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Are such panels even available? Or are you just asking for unicorns? Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's being made or it even has a viable market.

Neither. The panel manufacturers could use exactly the same processes they now use to produce 17" 1920x1200 panels to make 2560x1600 panels of about 24" with exactly the same pixel density. They would just be cutting the sheets into fewer but larger panels. Apple is a big enough player to get them if they wanted them. Asking for a pixel density not already in production would be nearer to asking for unicorns.

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Higher density is fine on notebooks, their portability requires it, and their use generally means the screens are closer to the user. Desktop displays don't need to be such a high pitch, they don't need to be portable and the user can sit a bit farther away.

You just made an argument about screen size, not about pixel density. I certainly would not want a 24" laptop. That doesn't change the fact that 100ppi on the desktop is blurry. Higher pixel densities are better up to the point which humans can no longer discern the difference -- which is around 300ppi. I would love to have a 34" 3840x2400 ACD, except that there isn't yet any way to drive it. Eventually, DisplayPort will support higher bitrates, but not now.
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post #140 of 185
10/15/08 at 11:27am
The Truth About DisplayPort vs. HDMI

HDMI is intended as an external consumer electronics connection for HDTVs. It is rapidly replacing S-Video and component video as the primary connection to TV sets. HDMI appears on consumer monitors so that they can be connected to Blu-ray Disc players, game consoles, and other consumer electronics. This allows the monitor to be used as an entertainment display. HDMI is also found on PCs to enable connectivity to HDTVs.

In contrast, DisplayPort is the digital interface for connecting flat-panel displays to computer systems. It will eventually replace VGA, DVI, and LVDS in IT equipment such as home and office PCs, projectors, monitors, and data center consoles. HDMI is not designed to meet these internal and external IT connectivity requirements...it is an external consumer electronics interface.

HDMI is based on legacy CRT raster-scan architecture. DisplayPort is designed for modern flat-panel displays and PC chipsets. DisplayPort has a micro-packet architecture with low voltage signaling that more easily enables networked displays. In the future, DisplayPort will also allow daisy chaining displays at full graphics performance, including 3D. and content protection. Today's USB-based daisy-chaining solutions do not support high performance 3D graphics or protected content.

HDMI has rules for how to implement and use the technology. Business and enterprise customers may not want to implement all of the consumer electronics features that are required in HDMI products. In contrast, DisplayPort is the display equivalent of Ethernet....anyone can implement it in any type of application. A VESA compliance program ensures interoperability for products featuring the "DisplayPort Certified" logo.
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post #141 of 185
10/15/08 at 11:30am
We're going to want DisplayPort.

HDMI just isn't tailored for computing applications.
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post #142 of 185
10/15/08 at 11:44am
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Not only does it only work with the new laptops (for now) but it has built-in iSight and speakers WHICH THE FUCKING LAPTOPS ALREADY HAVE. Apple has lost grasp on reality. Such waste, such overloading to artificially prop up the price.

Everyone should boycott this product. Why pay for a second iSight and a second set of speakers? Only people with money to throw will buy this product. With the world going into recession, people would be mad to buy such a product.

Apple said they're switching ALL machines to DisplayPort. So wait a bit.

Also, I can imagine having a built in iSight camera and microphone will be very handy when the Mac Pros move to the DisplayPort tech. The current Cinemas require a third-party video chat solution if you're running a Mac Pro.
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post #143 of 185
10/15/08 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The Truth About DisplayPort vs. HDMI

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HDMI has rules for how to implement and use the technology. Business and enterprise customers may not want to implement all of the consumer electronics features that are required in HDMI products.

Very interesting, though I don't know about this part, I am pretty sure this is not true with respect to having to implement CEC. The CEC portion of the standard is ignored for the most part. I don't think it is required in order to make a compliant HDMI display.
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post #144 of 185
10/15/08 at 1:14pm
Despite kim kap's rantings, this is a good option for someone like myself who is strongly considering going with a notebook only. When I'm not out and about, I do like having a larger screen available, such as when I'm gaming or working on a project. I also like the ability to sit on the couch and take it with me.

A product like this allows you to leverage your laptop with a desktop experience when you wish to have it. Just plug it in when you are at home/in office. Leverage is a powerful force.


Jobs did say they are going to be using the Display Port on all products, so I dunno what kim kap is up in arms about. Don't get the 24 inch display if it doesn't meet your needs. According to him/her, no one uses an external display with their lappy anyway, so having the product out there isn't hurting anyone.


@TenoBell, thanks for the pictures.
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post #145 of 185
10/15/08 at 1:34pm
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Despite kim kap's rantings, this is a good option for someone like myself who is strongly considering going with a notebook only. When I'm not out and about, I do like having a larger screen available, such as when I'm gaming or working on a project. I also like the ability to sit on the couch and take it with me.

A product like this allows you to leverage your laptop with a desktop experience when you wish to have it. Just plug it in when you are at home/in office. Leverage is a powerful force.

For notebook users, I don't think having a second display at your primary desk is such a rarity. As you say, you keep the portability without sacrificing the screen real estate where you might use it most, and disconnecting that is just three little connectors awy, you don't even have to recoil up the power adapter brick, that stayed in your tote bag.

Not everybody does it this way, but I think it's enough to merit a product like this LED Cinema Display. Obviously, something like the camera, speakers and mic aren't as useful to this kind of person, but they do have the mini and Mac Pro buyers to consider too.

It's too bad the monitor isn't backward compatible to DVI, I might have considered it for my 1 year old MBP.
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post #146 of 185
10/15/08 at 2:30pm
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A product like this allows you to leverage your laptop with a desktop experience when you wish to have it. Just plug it in when you are at home/in office. Leverage is a powerful force.

@TenoBell, thanks for the pictures.

I agree I think this product would work well for a lot of people. The ability to plug keyboard/mouse, printer, external HDD into the monitor. The freedom to plug and unplug your laptop. You have the best of both.
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post #147 of 185
10/15/08 at 4:31pm
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Not only does it only work with the new laptops (for now) but it has built-in iSight and speakers WHICH THE FUCKING LAPTOPS ALREADY HAVE. Apple has lost grasp on reality. Such waste, such overloading to artificially prop up the price.

Everyone should boycott this product. Why pay for a second iSight and a second set of speakers? Only people with money to throw will buy this product. With the world going into recession, people would be mad to buy such a product.

Hey there, mister. Perhaps a gentle question or opinion without screaming obscenities. Every single day, I work at a standing desk with a 24" Cinema Display driven by my Macbook Pro that sits - closed - on a shelf below. I have access to the speakers and camera when I'm on the move, or at home, but during my workday, I don't.

So, I've been complaining with the same level of energy as you are now, about the fact that my $800 Cinema Display DIDN't Include a camera and speakers.

Apple gets my work environment. Maybe screaming obscenities isn't really helping your case.
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post #148 of 185
10/16/08 at 12:09am
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Originally Posted by jazzyalex View Post

ha-ha, 24'' S-IPS LED monitor, even glossy, would be a great choice for 900 USD
BUT - from Apple site -

24-inch (viewable) LED-backlit thin film transistor (TFT) active-matrix liquid crystal display

TFT LED is much better by color space than simple TFT display, yet, I expect, previous S-IPC Cinema give better color accuracy anyway

It looks like Apple has made a sharp turn to Consumers. Right now I use Ilyama 22'' TFT monitor (good quality for its money) and will upgrade to 23/24 NEC S-IPS most likely. New Cinema is totally out of choice.

Just because the Apple Site says TFT doesn't mean it's not a IPS...actually IPS is one of many types of TFT-based technologies...a lot of monitor companies wont say what type of TFT, just that they are using TFT....

And the original ACDs did use IPS. So why wouldn't the new LED CD?

It's still to rich for my blood for now, that's why I am looking at the 24" Dell.
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10/16/08 at 1:32am
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10/16/08 at 2:13am
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How come nobody's even curious about the 30" ACD? What's happening with that one is what I want to know.

I expect a 30" ACD no later than MWSF.
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10/16/08 at 2:30am
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I expect a 30" ACD no later than MWSF.

I have no idea about the difficulties of this type of technology, or if these new displays are better than the previous ones, but since these are not shipping until an unspecified date in November (note: we still don't have the iPhone notifcation service that was promised for September), I think that the most logical bet is that the new 30"-32" BL-LED ACDs won't be announced until MWSF, and possibly not ship right away, either.

I'd love to read in-depth info on these displays and if the 30" BL-LED ACDs are even feasible within the next 6 months, ± a couple months. Will this be released alongside a Nehelam Mac Pro, and completely revamped and 'greener' Mac Mini, and an AppleTV using NVIDIA to push 1080p, even though iTS doesn't support it?

PS: How are people feeling about the glass display that clearly acts as a mirror when off. Is it true that the increased brightness will remove any potential glare, thus making this a viable machine for photo/video professionals?
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post #152 of 185
10/16/08 at 5:48am
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A product like this allows you to leverage your laptop with a desktop experience when you wish to have it. Just plug it in when you are at home/in office. Leverage is a powerful force.
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You do realize this is possible now without the new Apple display? For half as much.

It makes some sense if you have a MB because with just 2 usb ports on the MB, getting 3 more with the monitor will be handy.

But honestly, if you need a 24" monitor for your laptop this new ACD is expensive with additional features that are arguably of limited usefulness. That's what KKS is saying and I think he's right.
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post #153 of 185
10/16/08 at 6:43am
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You do realize this is possible now without the new Apple display? For half as much.

In some ways, not quite that bad, others, it's worse. A display with a similar quality matrix is more like 2/3rds Apple's price. Just any old 24" monitor with a TN panel can supposedly be bought for just above 1/3rd the price.

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It makes some sense if you have a MB because with just 2 usb ports on the MB, getting 3 more with the monitor will be handy.

A lot of monitors have built-in hubs.

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But honestly, if you need a 24" monitor for your laptop this new ACD is expensive with additional features that are arguably of limited usefulness. That's what KKS is saying and I think he's right.

These complaints about the price of Apple's monitors aren't new. Before, I do recall complaints that a Firewire hub is of limited usefulness, now it's a camera and speakers. I do think that Magsafe line is a nifty add-on though it's cheaper to buy someone else's monitor and buy a separate power adapter for use at the desk.
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10/16/08 at 2:37pm
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You do realize this is possible now without the new Apple display? For half as much.

It makes some sense if you have a MB because with just 2 usb ports on the MB, getting 3 more with the monitor will be handy.

But honestly, if you need a 24" monitor for your laptop this new ACD is expensive with additional features that are arguably of limited usefulness. That's what KKS is saying and I think he's right.


What would make you think that I do not realize that it's possible?

What I was talking about was KKS is insisting that there's no point for a monitor like this, and I was pointing out that there is, even if KKS doesn't want to avail himself of it.

Limited usefulness is a matter of opinion.

If Apple doesn't compete solely upon price in it's computers, what what lead you to assume that it would in its displays? You can get a cheaper monitor elsewhere the same way you can get a cheaper laptop elsewhere. Cheaper upfront cost isn't what the company does. This is an integrated solution that appeals to some people, just not yourself. For you, you can buy a different display if this particular one isn't of interest to you.
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10/16/08 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by backtomac View Post

You do realize this is possible now without the new Apple display? For half as much.

It makes some sense if you have a MB because with just 2 usb ports on the MB, getting 3 more with the monitor will be handy.

But honestly, if you need a 24" monitor for your laptop this new ACD is expensive with additional features that are arguably of limited usefulness. That's what KKS is saying and I think he's right.

The 3 USB ports, isight, and speakers essentially allow you to use your notebook as a desktop.

Can you provide a link to these other 24" LED monitor that are cheaper, with webcams, speakers, and allow the plugging of desktop peripherals. While easily and conveniently plug/unplug your notebook?
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10/16/08 at 2:50pm
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Can you provide a link to these other 24" LED monitor that are cheaper...

...and that is LED backlit.
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10/16/08 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The 3 USB ports, isight, and speakers essentially allow you to use your notebook as a desktop.

Can you provide a link to these other 24" LED monitor that are cheaper, with webcams, speakers, and allow the plugging of desktop peripherals. While easily and conveniently plug/unplug your notebook?

If you laptop has adequate USB and FW ports then you don't need them included on the monitor.

The integrated webcam is arguably a useful feature, but then again there is one in the MB so if you need to use it you can lift the lid and use the one in the MB.

The LED-BL is nice. But the monitor is still $900. We'll see how many pull the trigger when there are nice 24" monitors for half the price.
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10/16/08 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Boondox View Post

What would make you think that I do not realize that it's possible?
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A product like this allows you to leverage your laptop with a desktop experience when you wish to have it. Just plug it in when you are at home/in office. Leverage is a powerful force.

It wasn't obvious to me that you realized that was possible now with any VGA monitor and an adaptor.

Many users do this now without the new ACD. They already are aware of this 'leverage'.

And in your opinion what do these new monitors do that current monitors don't? Why should I lay $900 down for one?
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10/16/08 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by backtomac View Post

If you laptop has adequate USB and FW ports then you don't need them included on the monitor.

This would force you to plug the monitor, power, keyboard/mouse, printer, external HDD into the notebook. Its very inconvenient to have to plug and unplug all of those items.

With this ACD you only have to plug and unplug the notebook's connection to the monitor. The other peripherals can stay permanently plugged into the monitor.

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The integrated webcam is arguably a useful feature, but then again there is one in the MB so if you need to use it you can lift the lid and use the one in the MB.

With a 24" 1920x1200 monitor their is no need to keep the lid open.

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The LED-BL is nice. But the monitor is still $900. We'll see how many pull the trigger when there are nice 24" monitors for half the price.

Its arguable to debate the number of people who want to plug a notebook into a bigger monitor. I can see this option working well for a lot of people. If people fully understood this as a viable option and its advantages. You get the benefit of notebook portability and a desktop environment without having to buy both.

$900 is a lot cheaper than a full desktop Mac.
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10/16/08 at 4:17pm
edit: pipped by TenoBell.


PS: I expect to see a new Mac Mini or Mac Mini-like device at MWSF, that will also use the MagSafe connector so it can attached to these new ACDs with this simple, clean cabling in mind.
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