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post #1161 of 1350
11/6/08 at 7:13pm
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Can you imagine how many abortions there'd be if zinfella got his way and made masturbation illegal.

Wasn't masturbation punishable by death? On a similar note, wasn't raping a women was fine, but the women who was victimized was stoned to death if she every admitted to the act?

I think ZInfella stated that he has 8 kids, this more than likely points to his religion being Catholicism which feels contraception a mortal sin.

From the standpoint that one's belief in a particular religion is based heavily on the beliefs on your caregivers, it makes sense to not believe in contraception in order to out populate other religions, but these archaic view points set long before the age of enlightenment, that are still being followed blindly today, without question, shows just how desperate and fearful so many are to believe that they have not wasted their life believing in something that is complete BS, even if it means constantly lying to themselves and their loved ones in a vein attempt to save face.
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post #1162 of 1350
11/6/08 at 8:01pm
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On a similar note, wasn't raping a women was fine, but the women who was victimized was stoned to death if she every admitted to the act?

I absolutely picture Zinfella as one of the stoners. And not the Cheech and Ching type of stoner, either.

But seriously... that story was heartbreaking. Fuck all religious fundamentalism. Fuck it all. If Atheism means we won't have scary bullshit like this, then by all means, give us atheism.
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post #1163 of 1350
11/6/08 at 8:21pm
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I absolutely picture Zinfella as one of the stoners. And not the Cheech and Ching type of stoner, either.

But seriously... that story was heartbreaking. Fuck all religious fundamentalism. Fuck it all. If Atheism means we won't have scary bullshit like this, then by all means, give us atheism.

I didn't mean to imply that Zinfella is okay with rape or stoning of women. Save for homosexual women, I doubt that he would agree with that as I have faith that even he isn't that medieval in his religious convictions. Though I do have a feeling that may agree with Palin's stance that women should pay for their own rape kits.

As for atheism, I lean more to agnosticism. I feel the entirety of the universe to complex for our mortal brains to comprehend so we should focus on the how we can make ourselves and this world better before we start ruling our lives and justifying horrible actions because ancient made up stories about beings with magic powers and grandiose promises tells us to.
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post #1164 of 1350
11/6/08 at 9:13pm
Ya know what ironic about all of this? Most of you guys are Obama supporters. Obama caused a lot of black people to vote that ordinarily don't bother. Well, all of those extra black voters go to the polls in California, and vote for Obama. But, it doesn't end there, because while most of them are liberal, they have strong family values. That causes them to vote for prop 8, and the final tally was blacks vote 70% t0 30% in favor of prop 8.

Be careful what you wish for. ROFL
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post #1165 of 1350
11/6/08 at 9:23pm
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Ya know what ironic about all of this? Most of you guys are Obama supporters. Obama caused a lot of black people to vote that ordinarily don't bother. Well, all of those extra black voters go to the polls in California, and vote for Obama. But, it doesn't end there, because while most of them are liberal, they have strong family values. That causes them to vote for prop 8, and the final tally was blacks vote 70% t0 30% in favor of prop 8.

Be careful what you wish for. ROFL

Obviously when you have an African-American running for president you are going to have more African-American voters come to the polls, but Barack was able to get 45% of all white voters, which is excessively high for a Democrat. For comparison, Clinton only had 39% of all white voters.

As for the family values, it has nothing to do with that. It was about religious values that African-Americans voted yes on Prop 8. While religious values do carry over into one's family values, family values are not effect, not cause for the closed minded decisions. Just as, I assume, you probably would have voted against interracial marriage in your younger days. If you live another decade or two you will see this same sex marriage or the abolition of marriage from the state as a whole will occur. It's inevitable, and history has shown that you bigotry can only delay human liberties, not stop them.
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post #1166 of 1350
11/6/08 at 9:28pm
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It is very sad that society has come to this level of moral confusion and degradation. Marriage is a religious institution and covenant made between man and woman before God for the purpose of procreation and family.
Sexual intercourse can only happen between a man and woman's organs, other forms of "sex" outside of that are sodomy and masturbation. These other forms are pathetic, demeaning and disrespectful to your body and anyone else's involved.
With a clear conscience and in your better judgment you would realize these practices can in NO WAY be respectful or loving. They are lust based forms of domination and abuse. The fact that lust masquerades as love shows how confused so many are.
Love requires respect, sodomy is abuse as it is clear which area of our body was designed for sex and procreation. You can lie to yourself and deny it to continue your lusts and abuse, but deep down in your conscience you know it is wrong and abusive conduct. The trouble is so many, and most on forums such as these dedicated to OCD obsession over things, have lost all touch with their conscience, morality and better judgment.
I am glad this attempt to subvert the meaning of marriage is being challenged and several states have accepted the proposal to clearly define it in the way the founding Father and the Bible does, between one man and one woman.
Sodomy should not be associated with Marriage. Marriage is intended for sexual intercourse leading to children, family and a structured and respectful society.
The fact some married couples defile their bed with sodomy just shows how degenerate they have become and does not make it right or excusable.
It is very clear what the role of our sex organs are for and the only natural and morally respectful and right sexual function for them is intercourse, which can only happen between male and female organs. every other form is simulated abuse of areas not designed for the organs.
This is not a human rights issue. All people are born with equal rights, seeking to make sodomy a form of "marriage" is wrong as it is counter what marriage is about. Marriage is a holy ceremony and tradition between the male and female for the production of new life and family.
Nor do those who are defending marriages sanctity and purpose hate, fear or want to destroy those who call themselves gay. Nor would they condone any abuse or murder of those humans who practice perversion without care.
God will judge all our souls, and abuse has its consequences, whether its sexual abuse or physical violence, God does not want this. We should repent, for the sake of our soul and eternal destiny, of those deeds which violate and abuse ourself and others.
The modern day abuse and witch hunts are increasingly turning against those who defend sanctity, decency, morality and right conduct.


I couldn't have said it better myself!
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post #1167 of 1350
11/6/08 at 9:47pm
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Obviously when you have an African-American running for president you are going to have more African-American voters come to the polls, but Barack was able to get 45% of all white voters, which is excessively high for a Democrat. For comparison, Clinton only had 39% of all white voters.

As for the family values, it has nothing to do with that. It was about religious values that African-Americans voted yes on Prop 8. While religious values do carry over into one's family values, family values are not effect, not cause for the closed minded decisions. Just as, I assume, you probably would have voted against interracial marriage in your younger days. If you live another decade or two you will see this same sex marriage or the abolition of marriage from the state as a whole will occur. It's inevitable, and history has shown that you bigotry can only delay human liberties, not stop them.


Anyone that doesn't agree with you is a bigot. And you talk about tolerance.
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post #1168 of 1350
11/6/08 at 10:00pm
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Anyone that doesn't agree with you is a bigot. And you talk about tolerance.

I have stated previously that I don't expect you to change your views. I just want to realize that any short term victory you may have will be short lived.

Bigots have tried to stop the slaves from being freed.. and yet now we have a black president. Bigots tried to prevents women from voting... and yet we almost had a female VP.
Bigots tried to prevent interracial marriages... and yet we have a president who is a result of such a union.

I disagree with your hatred toward non-white males, but I have no problem with your ability to express your views. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"? ~Evelyn Beatrice Hall
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post #1169 of 1350
11/6/08 at 10:18pm
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Originally Posted by zinfella View Post

You want everyone to see a gay marriage as the same as a heterosexual marriage, and that ain't happen'in Bro! If you can't see the difference, then you're blind. This gay movement to fool everyone into thinking that there's no difference is very detrimental to the fabric of society.

It's got nothing to do with hate, jerk! We already have civil unions which give gay couples the same rights. Nobody is having a fit over that, it's when you want to re-define an institution nearly as old as mankind to suit your own purposes that causes the ire of the majority. The people of California in particular didn't like having gay marriage stuffed down their throat by activist judges after having previously voted against it. You're in the minority, most people do not want what you want. You lost.

It's f'ing over, get used to it!

Civil unions are being banned for gays- isn't that a fit?

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post #1170 of 1350
11/7/08 at 1:38am
GoldenLight: If you are not writing these insane screeds from a psychiatric care facility, please get some help very soon, because you are a danger to yourself and society.

webraider: if you couldn't have expressed that totally incoherent deranged babble any better yourself, you need to check into the skull ranch as well.

zinfella: I have already made it clear that you are the biggest fucking idiot I have ever encountered--you know absolutely nothing and yet you think you're a fount of knowledge. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were Sarah Palin! (And lay off the obnoxious smilies; it makes you look like an even greater goober than we know you are.)
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post #1171 of 1350
11/7/08 at 2:45am
Prop 8 got 52% support.

Ten years ago it would have been 70%

Twenty years ago it would have been inconceivable.

Can we extrapolate into the future?

C.
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post #1172 of 1350
11/7/08 at 4:07am
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Originally Posted by zinfella View Post

Anyone that doesn't agree with you is a bigot. And you talk about tolerance.

My opinion is that blacks and women should have the right to vote.

Is it not true that anyone that doesn't agree with me is a bigot?
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post #1173 of 1350
11/7/08 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by Carniphage View Post

Prop 8 got 52% support.

Ten years ago it would have been 70%

Twenty years ago it would have been inconceivable.

Can we extrapolate into the future?

C.

Actually no, not at all because you have to look at the %'s of those who firmly hold to their religious beliefs over the past 20+ years. When you come to realize that it was BO's recruitment of the Hispanic vote that mostly likely caused this Prop to pass you'll see that since (statistically speaking) Hispanics are having children at a much higher rate than any other nationality and combined with the fact that Hispanics are, again statistically speaking, more likely to adhere to Catholic tradition it leads you to the realization that extrapolating based on just a few data points will give you nothing but erroneous results.

Also, on a side note, I've NEVER seen a state gov't (San Fran Mayor and State courts to be exact) marginalize the majority quite like CA has. It really undermines the basis of democracy. Maybe someday it will be repealed (but not nearly as soon as sol' believes) but that doesn't mean you have to undermine the entire basis of gov't to make it happen. Right or wrong I think we should all agree that undermining the will of the majority is corrupt and has no place in a Democracy.
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post #1174 of 1350
11/7/08 at 5:36am
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When you come to realize that it was BO's recruitment of the Hispanic vote that mostly likely caused this Prop to fail...

First, I think you meant pass, not fail.

Second...



It warn't the Latinos.
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post #1175 of 1350
11/7/08 at 5:38am
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Right or wrong I think we should all agree that undermining the will of the majority is corrupt and has no place in a Democracy.

You make it sound like undermining the rights of minorities is an inevitable consequence of Democracy in action.

C.
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post #1176 of 1350
11/7/08 at 5:46am
Further to my post above, I think the following utterly blows the shit out of bigmc's premise...

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post #1177 of 1350
11/7/08 at 5:49am
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Right or wrong I think we should all agree that undermining the will of the majority is corrupt and has no place in a Democracy.

Um... wrong?

In fact, how could anyone be so wrong?

A constitution is constructed to protect minorities, not the majority.
As I said above, the entire concept of human rights is to protect the minority from oppression by the majority.

Please educate yourself.
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post #1178 of 1350
11/7/08 at 6:09am
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Further to my post above, I think the following utterly blows the shit out of bigmc's premise...

image: ]http://homepage.mac.com/bentonton/latinos.png

Where did you get these stats. I'd like to see the age breakdown for the other groups.
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post #1179 of 1350
11/7/08 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

Um... wrong?

In fact, how could anyone be so wrong?

A constitution is constructed to protect minorities, not the majority.
As I said above, the entire concept of human rights is to protect the minority from oppression by the majority.

Please educate yourself.

Yes, it was. And all the things that aren't in there were left to the will of the majority... Hate the premise of democracy all you want, I don't personally care. The fact of the matter is that none of the civil rights advances have come without the majority agreeing with it (look it up). Even Roe v Wade was supported by the majority of Americans (assuming you can trust the polls).

As for the racial %'s - is that an official gov't doc or is that just an exit poll?

EDIT: Also, compared to whites Latinos are more socially conservative (at least on this one) and their % of the population in CA is going to do nothing but grow whereas the % of blacks is projected to stay roughly the same (maybe drop a little) and whites will continue to drop. I'd like to see a data point that plots religious affiliation against yes/no for prop 8 (if they even have that data). Younger people, statistically speaking, tend to be more socially liberal than their older counter parts.
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post #1180 of 1350
11/7/08 at 6:34am
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First, I think you meant pass, not fail.

Second...



It warn't the Latinos.

So, basically, it's still BO's fault. Nice...
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post #1181 of 1350
11/7/08 at 6:36am
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Originally Posted by Carniphage View Post

You make it sound like undermining the rights of minorities is an inevitable consequence of Democracy in action.

C.

Not at all, look at slavery for example. It ended because the majority wanted it to end (and killed each other to do it I might add). Suffrage? same deal. Blacks can vote? Again, supported by the majority.

EDIT: Amendments can only be added to the US Constitution with a 2/3 majority - so, umm, yeah, it is about the majority... And Congress - needs a majority to pass, the Supreme Court - needs a majority. All ruling bodies that constitute our system are based on majorities. The President is the person who gets the majority of the Electoral College votes. Summary: majority, majority, majority, majority, majority...
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post #1182 of 1350
11/7/08 at 6:46am
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So, basically, it's still BO's fault. Nice...

it's not Barack's fault. I don't recall the Democrats telling people to vote yes on Prop 8, but the pro Prop 8 advocates spent a lot of time and money going to poor neighborhoods spreading lies about what voting no would mean. Many of which we've heard on this forum.

Note that Barack, being Democrat is less likely to get white voters than a Republican, yet he reportedly took 6% higher percentage of white voters than Clinton received. I think the age groups are the most telling of how people voted to ban gay marriage in 3 states.
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post #1183 of 1350
11/7/08 at 6:57am
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it's not Barack's fault. I don't recall the Democrats telling people to vote yes on Prop 8, but the pro Prop 8 advocates spent a lot of time and money going to poor neighborhoods spreading lies about what voting no would mean. Many of which we've heard on this forum.

Note that Barack, being Democrat is less likely to get white voters than a Republican, yet he reportedly took 6% higher percentage of white voters than Clinton received. I think the age groups are the most telling of how people voted to ban gay marriage in 3 states.

"The outlier of the proposition was African Americans. Many are churchgoing; many had ministers tell them to vote. Indeed, Proposition 8 promoters worked closely with black churches across the state, encouraging ministers to deliver sermons in favor of the ban."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27584685/

There were also a TON of people who didn't vote in this election that voted in 2004. In fact FEWER people voted in 2008 than in 2004.

EDIT: When you aim to mobilize a group of people that you know do not support same-sex marriage you know exactly what's going to happen. Also, why are you still maintaining they lied to them? Is it not possible to be opposed to it without being lied to? That's not very tolerant of others views. Like I told somebody earlier - just because I don't agree with you that doesn't mean I think you're stupid or you were lied to and I'd expect the same courtesy extended in the other direction.
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post #1184 of 1350
11/7/08 at 8:17am
Hmm, it would seem that despite my Hispanic Catholic friends assertion that Hispanic Catholics are less likely to accept same-sex marriage than perhaps others doesn't seem to be the case, however they are still far more likely to be catholic than others. Mainly, hispanics make up 12.5% of the population yet they account for 39% of all Catholics in the US.

http://www.usccb.org/hispanicaffairs/demo.shtml

Any chance we can get religious #'s from the polls? I'd be quite interested to see the numbers for No Religion, Catholic, Protestant (established, ie. Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc) and Evangelical. I'd bet that's really where you're going to see the cultural divide. As far as age - I wouldn't say that just because a certain age group is more accepting that means they will continue to be more accepting in the future. Ideals change with age, maybe not as much as political affiliation but they do change.
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11/7/08 at 8:20am
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it's not Barack's fault. I don't recall the Democrats telling people to vote yes on Prop 8, but the pro Prop 8 advocates spent a lot of time and money going to poor neighborhoods spreading lies about what voting no would mean. Many of which we've heard on this forum.

Note that Barack, being Democrat is less likely to get white voters than a Republican, yet he reportedly took 6% higher percentage of white voters than Clinton received. I think the age groups are the most telling of how people voted to ban gay marriage in 3 states.

Obama is the one responsible for large numbers of the Black vote, therefore he is responsible for their yes vote on prop 8 as well. You can't have it both ways, if he hadn't encouraged their vote to begin with, they wouldn't have been there to vote for prop 8.

Obama didn't even campaign in California, much less mount any sort of opposition to prop 8. He knew had the state in the bag, so he didn't bother spending time there. Similarly, McCain didn't spend time there because he knew it would not be time well spent for his election.
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post #1186 of 1350
11/7/08 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

GoldenLight: If you are not writing these insane screeds from a psychiatric care facility, please get some help very soon, because you are a danger to yourself and society.

webraider: if you couldn't have expressed that totally incoherent deranged babble any better yourself, you need to check into the skull ranch as well.

zinfella: I have already made it clear that you are the biggest fucking idiot I have ever encountered--you know absolutely nothing and yet you think you're a fount of knowledge. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were Sarah Palin! (And lay off the obnoxious smilies; it makes you look like an even greater goober than we know you are.)

Sarah Palin is the governor of Alaska, and she has an 80% approval rating among Alaskans. You just embarrass yourself when you try to make her look stupid. Lemme know when you get elected governor, moron.
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11/7/08 at 9:09am
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Sarah Palin is the governor of Alaska, and she has an 80% approval rating among Alaskans. You just embarrass yourself when you try to make her look stupid. Lemme know when you get elected governor, moron.

Actually it's a little lower now but at one point it was even higher than 80%. Still, I doubt many Governors enjoy a 68% approval rating, let alone after they've been drug throug the mud for the past few months.

"Polls taken in 2007 early in her term showed her with a 93% and 89% popularity among all voters,[73] which led some media outlets to call her "the most popular governor in America."[65][73] A poll taken in late September 2008 after Palin was named to the national Republican ticket showed her popularity in Alaska at 68%.[74]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
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11/7/08 at 9:35am
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Sarah Palin is the governor of Alaska, and she has an 80% approval rating among Alaskans. You just embarrass yourself when you try to make her look stupid. Lemme know when you get elected governor, moron.

48% of Alaskans also voted for convicted criminal Ted Stevens. Does that cast any light on the wisdom of the Alaskan electorate?

C.
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11/7/08 at 9:39am
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Hmm, it would seem that despite my Hispanic Catholic friends assertion that Hispanic Catholics are less likely to accept same-sex marriage than perhaps others, they are still far more likely to be catholic than others. Mainly, hispanics make up 12.5% of the population yet they account for 39% of all Catholics in the US.

http://www.usccb.org/hispanicaffairs/demo.shtml

Any chance we can get religious #'s from the polls? I'd be quite interested to see the numbers for No Religion, Catholic, Protestant (established, ie. Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc) and Evangelical. I'd bet that's really where you're going to see the cultural divide. As far as age - I wouldn't say that just because a certain age group is more accepting that means they are would be more accepting in the future. Ideals change with age, maybe not as much as political affiliation but they do change.

Some numbers that I heard on TV, but don't have reference to, said that young voters, under 30, voted overwhelmingly against prop 8. However, it's a fact that while those who are liberal while young, tend to get conservative as they age.

Here, hispanics played a large role in passing our own constitutional amendment against gay marriage. They're nearly all Catholics, and also very strong in family values. Those two items are very close to being redundant, in spite of Solipsism's attempt to spin it another way.

As far as individual denomination votes go, I don't know if that is available. Naturally all of this info is from exit polls. You an take that for what it's worth, considering that people will absolutely lie to a pollster.
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11/7/08 at 9:45am
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48% of Alaskans also voted for convicted criminal Ted Stevens. Does that cast any light on the wisdom of the Alaskan electorate?

C.

That door swings both ways. Marion Barry, a black Democrat, was Mayor of Washington DC. He was convicted on drug charges, and was sent to prison. He was eventually re-elected to the Mayor's job. Now, what does that say about the black voters that put Barry back in office?

How many votes for Stevens were done using early ballots, cast before he was convicted?
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11/7/08 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by Carniphage View Post

48% of Alaskans also voted for convicted criminal Ted Stevens. Does that cast any light on the wisdom of the Alaskan electorate?

C.

Or maybe that just speaks to how crappy the other option was...

We've been voting for the lesser of two evils for, what, at least a dozen years now...
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11/7/08 at 11:50am
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Or maybe that just speaks to how crappy the other option was...

We've been voting for the lesser of two evils for, what, at least a dozen years now...

Unfortunately true.
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11/7/08 at 10:29pm
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Sarah Palin is the governor of Alaska, and she has an 80% approval rating among Alaskans. You just embarrass yourself when you try to make her look stupid. Lemme know when you get elected governor, moron.

Do you even realize what a fucking idiot it makes you sound like to defend that suppurating pustule, that malignantly ignorant, evil, batshit-crazy waste of skin? Eat shit and die, troll!

See how fucking stupid it looks, brainiac?
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11/8/08 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

Do you even realize what a fucking idiot it makes you sound like to defend that suppurating pustule, that malignantly ignorant, evil, batshit-crazy waste of skin? Eat shit and die, troll!

See how fucking stupid it looks, brainiac?

Look, are there any moderators left on this thread?

This has NOTHING to do with Apple anymore, and it hasn't for a long time. Will someone PLEASE move this to AppleOutsider, where it clearly belongs?
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11/8/08 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

Do you even realize what a fucking idiot it makes you sound like to defend that suppurating pustule, that malignantly ignorant, evil, batshit-crazy waste of skin? Eat shit and die, troll!

See how fucking stupid it looks, brainiac?

Seek help, you're unhinged.
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post #1196 of 1350
11/8/08 at 7:32am
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Look, are there any moderators left on this thread?

This has NOTHING to do with Apple anymore, and it hasn't for a long time. Will someone PLEASE move this to AppleOutsider, where it clearly belongs?

I agree. Disagreements and a few jabs here and there are fun, but that was nasty for the sake of nastiness. As Vicky Pollard would say, "Oh my God I so can't believe you just said that! You are well outta line!"
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post #1197 of 1350
11/8/08 at 7:45am
I voted more for Palin and against Obama, than I did in favor of McCain. Sarah, Sarah, hip, hip, Hurray!
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post #1198 of 1350
11/8/08 at 11:55am
Especially Palin but the Republicans too did "eat shit and die" which reflects onto zincella, so he just can't avoid that one!
If moderate McCain hadn't been on the ticket there may have been four more states that the Hispanic vote could have swung to Obama.

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11/15/08 at 11:45pm
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post #1200 of 1350
11/16/08 at 1:58am
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Gay marriage is not about love. You can have love without legal recognition. Gay marriage is about equal treatment, it's about medical insurance, and spouse benefits and all those little legal rights and assumptions that straight people get as soon as they're married.

In the near term, pseudo-marriage arrangements will spread to all states. This must happen, because it's in the interest of businesses and big money (remember the golden rule). Later, votes such as proposition 8 will be overturned (might take 10 years or so) and all states (and later most countries) will have gay marriage.
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