Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer
Nice deflection. You managed to mock the man's observations by implying they are deranged without any evidence to back it up. Now actually address his statements or ignore them and move along.
Actually, I did, on Oct 26th (if you read the thread instead of attempting to insult people and failing you may have learned something)...
My comment was:
...that some people have chosen to use their fear and bigotry to legalize hate. Please, do not quote the bible. No one knows who it was written by, and for that matter, the bible may easily be spun to support ANY position (let us not forget that many used the bible to support slavery. To quote Coretta Scott King:
"I appeal to everybody who believes in Martin Luther King, Jr.s dream to make room at the table of brother- and sisterhood for lesbians and gay people, (August 1, 2002) - may she rest in peace.
As someone who has studied the bible, many passages claim extreme religious views. Within the pages of the bible it advocates stoning disobedient children to death, makes it unlawful to wear fabric of mixed fibers or to eat anything from the water that has no fins or scales. It advocates slaughter and annihilation of "others" and those who don't conform. In the pages of the bible women are given over to gang rape and dismembered. Parents are told they must amputate bits from the penis of their sons. And we should admire such "wisdom" and look to it as a guide? I think not. It is a collection of fables, often with strong political agenda. Why should it be accorded more merit than Grimms Fairy Tales? How many of you would qualify for a stoning?
The bottom line, the people who cry fowl the most have something to hide. Let us not forget Mark Foley and Sen. Larry Craig, politicians who were extremely vocal in their opposition to homosexual rights. Guess what? THEY'RE GAY. Most heterosexuals who are comfortable with their sexuality don't care what two consenting adults do in their own homes. Why do two people who love each other, who vow to be with one another, threaten you so much? The Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints gave MILLIONS to support Prop. 8, think of what all that money could have done to feed the hungry, give shelter to the poor. The real Jesus would have wanted that. If you truly believe in God and religion, then you would know that God created all men as equals, and loves all men unconditionally. Homosexuality has been proven to be genetic. More and more scientific evidence supports this reality. Who in their right mind would willingly chose to be hated, denied the same rights as heterosexual individuals, or be beaten and left for dead as Matthew Shephard (the FBI released statistics that have show sharp rises in hate crimes against homosexuals, most don't get reported in the news. A 15 year old named Lawrence King was shot twice in the back of his head by his fellow class mate this year in California, a gay couple is beaten or harassed every 15 minutes and all anyone can do is quote an antiquated book called the bible that talks about unicorns and stoning, it's RELIGULOUS).
I do not care what your personal beliefs are, but do not impose them on any one else. Two people are free to love each other, that does not infringe on your rights. All this amounts to is hatred and insecurity. If you truly care so much go out and do something positive, work in a homeless shelter, donate to groups who actually do positive work such as animal rescue or Habitats for Humanity. We live in a world in which more people rely on religion to start wars, and no one can even state with any certainty if what is written is fact. No one knows. What is fact is the here and now. Denying someone else the same rights that others have is bigotry, I do not care how you justify it. Putting a laughing emoticon after your statements of hate only solidifies that fact. Further, contrary to what someone stated, most people do not believe in laws such as Prop 8. In fact, the polls are now turning AGAINST it, as more and more people are breaking from the fear mongering of the conservative right and waking up to the reality that WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. If you truly believe that homosexuals are less than human, then you are no further from the individuals who justified enslaving Africans. You are a bigot.