Originally Posted by FloorJack
Wow! Talk about shifting the goal posts. It goes from "ACRON is just complying with the law" to "they were taken advantage of by some people they paid" to "this doesn't mean anything because you can't use those to cast fake votes. prove it can happen" to "this is the exception to the rule and is meaningless".
Yes, ACORN is complying with the law when the submit each voter registration they get.
Yes, when a person ACORN is paying to get voter registrations blows off the job and submits bogus registrations instead of pounding the pavement, that person is taking advantage of ACORN in the way any worker who doesn't do the job they've been payed to do takes advantage of their employer.
Yes, the incidence of fake registrations leading to fake votes is exceedingly rare. We know this for a fact because it has been extensively documented, and the Bush administration spent a great deal of time and money for the express purpose of exposing "liberal voter fraud" and came away empty handed.
And yes, given the tens of millions of votes cast, it is possible to find a few illicit votes.
All of this has been true the entire time we've been discussing it, no goalposts have been moved. All that's happened is that you continue to ignore the central point-- it is very difficult and in practice very rare to turn fake registrations into fake votes-- because you have a partisan interest in pretending that there is some kind of grand conspiracy to steal the election.
You're left with the absurd stance that, because it is possible to find a few illicit votes, it must follow that there could be
many millions of illicit votes, enough to turn an election.
That might hold water if illicit votes just sort of turned up by accident, suggesting that there was an unacknowledged problem that bore looking into it.
The truth is, of course, that the entire Republican political apparatus and the Bush Justice Department have been at this stuff for the last four years at least, and the problem just isn't there.
It's really as simple as that: vast resources have been expended to expose a problem, and no problem has been found to exist. So fans of voter repression stick with trumpeting Republican charges (which inevitably come to nothing), or the rare exceptions to the rule, or just sort of a vague haze of allegations that start with little and end with nothing.
But of course you don't care about any of that, because what you're talking about has nothing to do with getting to the truth. It has to do with cementing the impression
that there is some kind of wide-spread "voter fraud" in order to lay the ground work for further voter suppression legislation at the state level. The RNC has been pretty explicit about their intentions on this.
However, I will say that just standing there shouting "BUT ACORN MILLIONS OF BAD REGISTRATIONS OBAMA LIBERALS FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD" is pointless, here, because the people you're talking to aren't stupid.
So maybe you should go find some stupid people to peddle this nonsense to. In that, you would be following the Republican Party's lead.