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post #1 of 32
11/2/08 at 8:09pm
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Netflix has expanded the online component of its movie rental service to include any Intel Mac user who volunteers to join in a new public beta.

The test version of Watch Instantly is open to any Mac user with both a qualifying Netflix subscription and a system capable of playing videos in Microsoft's Silverlight web plugin.

Previously limited just to a controlled rollout, the expanded beta is considered the second phase of testing and comes along with a new wave of movies and TVs added to the service for all viewers.

The company cautions that there may be bugs and that the Silverlight version's catalog isn't a one-for-one duplicate of what's available in the regular version of Watch Instantly, which normally requires Internet Explorer on a Windows PC or else a set-top box with Netflix support built-in.

The expansion is made possible by Silverlight's inherent support for copy protection regardless of either the operating system or the browser and thus prevents casual rips of the video feed using third-party tools.

Mac users have typically been excluded from such services in the past but have gained increasing access in recent months to commercial video services that once required Windows alone, such as Amazon's Video on Demand. Hulu and other free services have often escaped these limits due to their uses of advertising, which lets the Fox/NBC joint project offer video for free.
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post #2 of 32
11/2/08 at 8:31pm
This has been a much needed benefit for Mac owners with a NetFlix account.
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post #3 of 32
11/2/08 at 8:32pm
Should've made it compatible with Apple TV.

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post #4 of 32
11/2/08 at 8:47pm
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Should've made it compatible with Apple TV.

I don't think it was their choice in not making it compatible with Apple TV, then it would compete with the iTunes store, and its pretty clear Apple is not interested in allowing applications that will compete.

Same subject if they do release a new mac mini there is going to be an Apple TV for sale now that netflix is doing this!
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post #5 of 32
11/2/08 at 9:05pm
Slight correction to the article: It did not require IE on Windows. Netflix streaming also works with Firefox 2 or higher.
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post #6 of 32
11/2/08 at 10:31pm
i installed plugin but still does not work on intel imac ? any suggestions?
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post #7 of 32
11/2/08 at 10:34pm
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Should've made it compatible with Apple TV.

It's not like Apple said Macs should support Netflix - The irony in all of this is that it is enabled by Microsoft's Silverlight, which is a web-browser plug-in technology, supported on Windows, Mac, and promised soon on Linux.
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post #8 of 32
11/2/08 at 11:36pm
i can't really see subscribing to netflix. i mean, i love the concept, and how they turned the whole video rental industry upside-down, and we really got our use out of it when my wife was pregnant a few years ago. but, i have no plan to support a company that relies so heavily on using pop-under ads, via casalemedia.

ironic, that while helping forge ahead, adding to the best of the internet, they also advertise with a company that pushes so hard to keep the worst of the internet one step ahead of popup-blocking technologies. i find that horribly offensive.
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post #9 of 32
11/3/08 at 1:09am
if it involves loading anything microsoft (like silverlight) on my mac, no fucking way. I'll stick with my DVD deliveries any day over installing microsoft crap on my computers.
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post #10 of 32
11/3/08 at 1:10am
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i installed plugin but still does not work on intel imac ? any suggestions?

it's microsoft, of course it doesn't work properly.
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post #11 of 32
11/3/08 at 1:47am
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if it involves loading anything microsoft (like silverlight) on my mac, no fucking way.

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post #12 of 32
11/3/08 at 4:22am
Damn. It actually works..

I've now watched 11 episodes of season 1 of 30 Rock... I CAN'T TURN IT OFF!!!!

Yeah.. I should seek some help.
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post #13 of 32
11/3/08 at 5:51am
I installed silverlight and then tried to watch a movie. After loading the player in the browser window, it crashed Safari just at the moment it would have shown the movie.
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post #14 of 32
11/3/08 at 5:55am
Well, now it's playing, but the image tears really badly during motion - it doesn't perform vertical sync with the monitor so it looks really crappy.
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post #15 of 32
11/3/08 at 6:03am
this is a great step forward. it is working great! i have been using vmware the past year to watch instant media on netflix, now i dont have to use that method!

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post #16 of 32
11/3/08 at 6:25am
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i can't really see subscribing to netflix. i mean, i love the concept, and how they turned the whole video rental industry upside-down, and we really got our use out of it when my wife was pregnant a few years ago. but, i have no plan to support a company that relies so heavily on using pop-under ads, via casalemedia.

ironic, that while helping forge ahead, adding to the best of the internet, they also advertise with a company that pushes so hard to keep the worst of the internet one step ahead of popup-blocking technologies. i find that horribly offensive.

Pop under ads on the Netflix website? I've never experienced this. Though it's possible it exists on Netflix, I find it kind of ironic that you visit appleinsider.com, which does use pop under ads. Could you point me to some info about pop under ads on Netflix? Thx.
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post #17 of 32
11/3/08 at 7:21am
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Should've made it compatible with Apple TV.

As stated, this is not something Netflix can just support. However, their may be a light at the end of the tunnel. Boxee can play Flash-based episodes from Hulu and Comedy Central. I don't think it would be too much trouble for them to add the Silverlight plug-in to their installer to create access to the Netflix VoD site.
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post #18 of 32
11/3/08 at 7:35am
I have TiVo with a wireless broadband connection to my home AirPort network. Any way to have all these play together with NetFlix (which I also use for DVDs)? In other words, can I use this new NetFlix deely on my Mac and stream it to my plasma TV downstairs? I'm thinking not, but who knows? Where there's a geek there's a way.
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post #19 of 32
11/3/08 at 8:03am
Very nice. I'll take advantage of this tonight. This shows that the Mac is a presence not to be ignored.
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post #20 of 32
11/3/08 at 8:14am
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I have TiVo with a wireless broadband connection to my home AirPort network. Any way to have all these play together with NetFlix (which I also use for DVDs)? In other words, can I use this new NetFlix deely on my Mac and stream it to my plasma TV downstairs? I'm thinking not, but who knows? Where there's a geek there's a way.

You can, but not with TiVo. You'd have to have a really long video out connection from you Mac upstairs to the plasma downstairs -or- by a small PC for your Plasma so you it can play streamed content from Netflix through it.

I would think that Boxee will add access to it Netflix to the AppleTV in the future, but we'll have to wait for an official word.
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post #21 of 32
11/3/08 at 9:47am
got it working. download ms silverlight and go to netflix b site and opt in to beta program. (netflix tech support can walk u through it) i have very fast internet and works great although pic quality less than dvd.
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post #22 of 32
11/3/08 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post

I have TiVo with a wireless broadband connection to my home AirPort network. Any way to have all these play together with NetFlix (which I also use for DVDs)? In other words, can I use this new NetFlix deely on my Mac and stream it to my plasma TV downstairs? I'm thinking not, but who knows? Where there's a geek there's a way.

Netflix is coming to TiVo in December, at least for their HD boxes. They might change their mind and roll it for Series 2 models as well, but right now it only says HD models.
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post #23 of 32
11/3/08 at 12:34pm
I've been using it all afternoon. Works great!!

I've watched RoboCop 1 and I'm watching 2 right now. Yeah... I know they're lame, but I haven't seen these movies in almost 20 years. This is almost definitely going to start taking over the majority of my days off. Love it.
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post #24 of 32
11/3/08 at 4:32pm
No support for PowerPC based Macs.
Lame...
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post #25 of 32
11/3/08 at 4:40pm
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No support for PowerPC based Macs.
Lame...

This looks to be an issue with Silverlight 2.0 not being supported by MS on PPC Macs, not with Netflix trying to exclude PPC Macs from the list. With PPC Macs number dropping considerably, it makes sense for MS to focus only on Intel Macs.
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post #26 of 32
11/3/08 at 8:13pm
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This looks to be an issue with Silverlight 2.0 not being supported by MS on PPC Macs, not with Netflix trying to exclude PPC Macs from the list. With PPC Macs number dropping considerably, it makes sense for MS to focus only on Intel Macs.

I don't for one second believe that Intel Macs outnumber PPC Macs. Anyone have any research that supports or refutes this?

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post #27 of 32
11/3/08 at 8:22pm
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I don't for one second believe that Intel Macs outnumber PPC Macs. Anyone have any research that supports or refutes this?

I didn't say they outnumber the Intel Mac installed base (I would think by now they would, but I don't know), but the percentage of PPC Macs to Intel Macs is clearly lowering everyday and it's been 2 years since Apple stopped selling PPC Macs and over 2.5 years since they started selling Intel Macs. There just isn't much need for MS to put a lot of effort into the future of Silverlight on PPC Macs when they haven't been produced for a couple years.
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post #28 of 32
11/4/08 at 8:23am
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No support for PowerPC based Macs.
Lame...

Some version of this news on a different site said that 75% of Mac-using Netflix subscribers were on Intel based machines. Doesn't seem like much need to support a small percentage that will only get smaller in the future.
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post #29 of 32
11/4/08 at 10:37am
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I didn't say they outnumber the Intel Mac installed base (I would think by now they would, but I don't know), but the percentage of PPC Macs to Intel Macs is clearly lowering everyday and it's been 2 years since Apple stopped selling PPC Macs and over 2.5 years since they started selling Intel Macs. There just isn't much need for MS to put a lot of effort into the future of Silverlight on PPC Macs when they haven't been produced for a couple years.

Yes, of course the percentage is diminishing, but I can only guess that the majority of Macs in use is still PPC based. Wouldn't extracting the relevant info from web traffic data be possible?.. maybe not. May only be able to tell if it's a Mac or a PC based on the browser.

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post #30 of 32
11/4/08 at 10:50am
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Yes, of course the percentage is diminishing, but I can only guess that the majority of Macs in use is still PPC based. Wouldn't extracting the relevant info from web traffic data be possible?.. maybe not. May only be able to tell if it's a Mac or a PC based on the browser.

This is the only statistical evidence I can find that shows a greater Intel presence over PPC Macs, and even that isn't conclusive as they seem to refer to PPC as just "Mac OS" while clearly referring to Intel-based Macs as "MacIntel". If we take it at face value, we see that Intel Macs have more than double the internet presence of PPC Macs.

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http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10 Anecdotally and looking at the surge in Mac sales since the switch, I don't see how their could possibly be more PPC-based Macs still in general use.
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post #31 of 32
11/4/08 at 11:37pm
Got a few questions for those of you who are using the netflix streaming service.

How is the selection? Can I watch all seasons of 24?

How is the sound quality?

What is the video quality? Full screen mode possible?

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post #32 of 32
11/5/08 at 9:51am
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This is the only statistical evidence I can find that shows a greater Intel presence over PPC Macs, and even that isn't conclusive as they seem to refer to PPC as just "Mac OS" while clearly referring to Intel-based Macs as "MacIntel". If we take it at face value, we see that Intel Macs have more than double the internet presence of PPC Macs.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10 Anecdotally and looking at the surge in Mac sales since the switch, I don't see how their could possibly be more PPC-based Macs still in general use.

Aha! Good find, Solipsism. Thanks.

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