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post #41 of 73
11/6/08 at 11:56am
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post #42 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:03pm
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Wow. Direct podcast downloads. Hmmmmm...... This has been avail on other phones for quite some time. Leave it to Apple to make something old, appear as something new and the faithful to jump on the bandwagon.

It is new on the iPhone. I don't understand this mentality that if something has been done on another phone its old for everyone.

Apple had to write new code to get it all working, so this new for them.

If these old features were all that great on the other phones the iPhone would not be selling so well.
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post #43 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by Adjei View Post

So now its because they had low expectations of the device, what about the blackberry users they surveyed, come up with something better, you getting real desperate, but I guess your anti iPhone stance is clouding your judgement.

Since the iPhone is competing against the Blackberry in the US. Your statement is essentially saying the Blackberry is not very good and the iPhone is able to easily beat it.

What phones around the world are considered better for business than the BB?
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post #44 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:09pm
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It is new on the iPhone. I don't understand this mentality that if something has been done on another phone its old for everyone.

Apple had to write new code to get it all working, so this new for them.

If these old features were all that great on the other phones the iPhone would not be selling so well.

Great point. I will concede this, however and I think you will agree with this, the coding of this was a no brainer for Apple. It is my opinion that Apple is releasing things in dribs and drabs and marketing, selling, positioning, etc... as new and innovative because they know that Apple users generally do not look at the content of what is released but the fact that Apple put something new out. If you stop and look at many of Apple so-called innovations, you will see that they are not new but packaged in a nice flashy wrapper and marketed well.

I will bet you a frozen pizza of your choice that when the podcast downloading feature is released, it will be with mucho fanfare and marketing glitz.
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post #45 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:10pm
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How about posting this magical survey so I can pick it and you apart. As for my anti-iPhone stance. Just because I do not live in Steve Jobs pants does not mean that I am anti-iPhone. I am anti-selling BS and passing it off as manna from heaven. Apparently you have no problem drinking the Kool-Aid.

So I guess you know more than the people at JD Power or are they also Apple fanboys?
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post #46 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Since the iPhone is competing against the Blackberry in the US. Your statement is essentially saying the Blackberry is not very good and the iPhone is able to easily beat it.

What phones around the world are considered better for business than the BB?

Nice point. The iPhone is not a real biz phone. When it can store and forward docs natively, send vCards, and vCals, and the other basic biz features then it can be considered a biz phone. Until then it simply has biz potential.
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post #47 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by Adjei View Post

So I guess you know more than the people at JD Power or are they also Apple fanboys?

Hmmm..... No link......

I guess your argument is just like the proposed tethering functionality. Until it appears, it does not exist.
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post #48 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Since the iPhone is competing against the Blackberry in the US. Your statement is essentially saying the Blackberry is not very good and the iPhone is able to easily beat it.

What phones around the world are considered better for business than the BB?

I am not saying the BB is no good, he stated the people surveyed for the survey who are using the iphone are clueless, so I asked him about the BB users surveyed?
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post #49 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:18pm
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Hmmm..... No link......

I guess your argument is just like the proposed tethering functionality. Until it appears, it does not exist.

Here is the link:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27575986

and for tethering coming: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10083957-37.html
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post #50 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Adjei View Post

I am not saying the BB is no good, he stated the people surveyed for the survey who are using the iphone are clueless, so I asked him about the BB users surveyed?

Beep, beep, beep. The sound of backing up.

Fact, the BB is probably the best device used in North America. However, around the world many to most would argue that the Nokia Communicator series is the best device for enterprises.

My argument was with those surveyed. Many North American users are used to the BB system and have little background on other enterprise systems, so yes Americans are sort of blinded by the lower expectations that the iPhone offers as an enterprise device.
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post #51 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:27pm
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Beep, beep, beep. The sound of backing up.

Fact, the BB is probably the best device used in North America. However, around the world many to most would argue that the Nokia Communicator series is the best device for enterprises.

My argument was with those surveyed. Many North American users are used to the BB system and have little background on other enterprise systems, so yes Americans are sort of blinded by the lower expectations that the iPhone offers as an enterprise device.

That is your opinion, and that's just what it is your opinion.
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post #52 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by Adjei View Post

Here is the link:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27575986

and for tethering coming: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10083957-37.html

Okay. It only took you two posts to deliver an article that basically said what I was stating. As a lightweight device, with ease of use, the iPhone is great but for real biz usage it is lacking and fails as an enterprise device. Our IT guys looked at it and laughed. Their opinion was that it is not an enterprise device. It is lacking in even the most basic of features that we use on a daily basis.
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post #53 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by Adjei View Post

That is your opinion, and that's just what it is your opinion.

Prove me wrong that globally the Communicator series from Nokia is not considered one of the best if not the best enterprise device.

Prove that the BB is not the hands on favorite device of enterprises and even the US govt.

Clock is ticking. You can even call in a lifeline if you want.
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post #54 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:29pm
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Okay. It only took you two posts to deliver an article that basically said what I was stating. As a lightweight device, with ease of use, the iPhone is great but for real biz usage it is lacking and fails as an enterprise device. Our IT guys looked at it and laughed. Their opinion was that it is not an enterprise device. It is lacking in even the most basic of features that we use on a daily basis.

LOL, dide you actually read the friggin article?
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post #55 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:30pm
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Great point. I will concede this, however and I think you will agree with this, the coding of this was a no brainer for Apple. It is my opinion that Apple is releasing things in dribs and drabs and marketing, selling, positioning, etc...

I'm sure it wasn't the most difficult thing to do. At the same time the code had to be written and debugged. Apple only has so many engineers. I imagine it was on the to do list and they got to it after taking care of things that were of higher priority.

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...as new and innovative because they know that Apple users generally do not look at the content of what is released but the fact that Apple put something new out. If you stop and look at many of Apple so-called innovations, you will see that they are not new but packaged in a nice flashy wrapper and marketed well.

Its true Apple does not make many things that are new. Apple's strength is more in taking something that has been done before and doing it better. Designing a better UI and making it easy and fun to use.

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I will bet you a frozen pizza of your choice that when the podcast downloading feature is released, it will be with mucho fanfare and marketing glitz.

You think the reason for this will be because people treat Apple as though they invented it. But we know Apple did not invent downloading podcasts. The reason for this is because the podcast feature will work better than most others.
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post #56 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:32pm
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Prove me wrong that globally the Communicator series from Nokia is not considered one of the best if not the best enterprise device.

Prove that the BB is not the hands on favorite device of enterprises and even the US govt.

Clock is ticking. You can even call in a lifeline if you want.

I'll prove it when you prove what the survey is saying is false and the iphone doesn't have the highest satisfaction ratings at least in the US.
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post #57 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:38pm
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Prove me wrong that globally the Communicator series from Nokia is not considered one of the best if not the best enterprise device.

I'm looking around. But I haven't found any evidence that supports or denies this assertion.

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Prove that the BB is not the hands on favorite device of enterprises and even the US govt.

In the US BB is the enterprise favorite. BB was the best selling line of smartphones in the US in 2007. Nokia has very little US marketshare.
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post #58 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:42pm
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Why does Apple give us things THEY WANT, rather than things WE NEED?

All part of the devil's bargain once you become an Apple Cadet.

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post #59 of 73
11/6/08 at 12:58pm
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I'll prove it when you prove what the survey is saying is false and the iphone doesn't have the highest satisfaction ratings at least in the US.

Okay. The iPhone has the highest....yada, yada, yada.....

Now prove the that Nokia and BB are not the best for biz.
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post #60 of 73
11/6/08 at 1:03pm
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Why are they even working on this. Some Devs already had this program working. Please add cut and paste, MMS, and fix Safari.

Don't forget task synchronization with iCal.
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post #61 of 73
11/6/08 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

I'm looking around. But I haven't found any evidence that supports or denies this assertion.



In the US BB is the enterprise favorite. BB was the best selling line of smartphones in the US in 2007. Nokia has very little US marketshare.

HI Tenobell,

the key to my statement was the word globally. I was not including the US market as as there is a very small Nokia footprint there. I was transferred to one of our European offices where the IT guys are allowed to pick their devices to support and deploy. BB was an option but at the end of the day, they went with Communicators. I found this to be almost homogenous throughout the entire European office structure. At no time was the iPhone considered. We have a few laying around and the IT guys test them from time to time but at the end of the day, they feel that for the enterprise they are lacking.
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post #62 of 73
11/6/08 at 1:37pm
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I've been testing this beta, and instead of downloading you can stream directly the video or audio podcast just by selecting them from the iTunes app instead of downloading them first. It works great.

Now that's cool... This is a feature adopted from the Apple TV, and yes it works beautifully.

I have a friend who jailbroke his iPhone, he's got some nifty apps on there like:
- Data teathering
- Video with audio recording (very very nice!)
- And other stuff that is no where to be found on the app store

After I saw these two features, I'm now considering jailbreaking my iPhone. I do not understand Apple sometimes, here you have a video app made by a bunch of hackers that works great, yet Apple is still struggling with their photo camera (it's ass slow).

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post #63 of 73
11/6/08 at 1:47pm
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Safari crashes a dozen times a day. It's very very very annoying. Come on Apple, I'm sick of the Windows experience with this: fix it.

Expect it to crash and expect browsers to crash on most smart phones. The truth is there just isn't enough memory. Look at how much memory Firefox, Safari, Opera or IE take up on your home computer and then remember that the iPhone has somewhere between 128MB and 256MB of memory (I couldn't find an exact value, but this was a general value from searching with Google). You should be amazed that it does what it does with what it has.
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post #64 of 73
11/6/08 at 1:55pm
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Nice point. The iPhone is not a real biz phone. When it can store and forward docs natively, send vCards, and vCals, and the other basic biz features then it can be considered a biz phone. Until then it simply has biz potential.

How long did it take Blackberry to store and forward docs natively? I would guess more than a couple of years, at least I know it was later than Palm did it on the Treo (with Documents to Go, included). I remember when Blackberry was pretty much a one trick pony, with push email, being a fancy two way pager. Not only could you not view or edit attachments, but attachments were "destroyed" in the Blackberry transmission process. Still, it was a killer app for many businesses.
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post #65 of 73
11/6/08 at 1:56pm
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Expect it to crash and expect browsers to crash on most smart phones. The truth is there just isn't enough memory. Look at how much memory Firefox, Safari, Opera or IE take up on your home computer and then remember that the iPhone has somewhere between 128MB and 256MB of memory (I couldn't find an exact value, but this was a general value from searching with Google). You should be amazed that it does what it does with what it has.

Is there anything documented anywhere on how to manage/optimize memory use on the iPhone?
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post #66 of 73
11/6/08 at 3:14pm
Boy it would be nice if this hit the street before I leave town for a week in 6 days! I'd LOVE to be able to get my podcasts while I'm over there....
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post #67 of 73
11/6/08 at 3:22pm
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Boy it would be nice if this hit the street before I leave town for a week in 6 days! I'd LOVE to be able to get my podcasts while I'm over there....

Do you have a WiFi connection to attach to or are your podcasts until 10MB in size?
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post #68 of 73
11/6/08 at 7:22pm
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The key to my statement was the word globally. I was not including the US market as as there is a very small Nokia footprint there. I was transferred to one of our European offices where the IT guys are allowed to pick their devices to support and deploy. BB was an option but at the end of the day, they went with Communicators. I found this to be almost homogenous throughout the entire European office structure.

Well, you might want to check the average selling price Nokia achieves with its phones... it is expected to be below 140 USD for this quarter, and they just announced to put more effort on the cheap consumer models - so, this is not even the bottom. And as you seem to like links: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/...-on-consumers/

I do not know a single company in Germany or France that is using Communicators (there might be a few, but it is by no means big), BBs are in almost every company and iPhones are becoming more common by the minute. I had a company Communicator until September 2007 (an a private SE P910i). The first time I used the iPhone of a friend for less than 5 minutes, I did not want them any longer. I got two hacked US iPhones from eBay the same day.

I have been using enhanced phones and PDAs since they exist. Even if possible, I have never edited a Word or Excel file on any of them and it escapes me why you demand BT transfers at a fraction of the speed, when WiFi is available. We have software to mail vCards on all our company iPhones and using the Briefcase software on the iPhone I can exchange documents with other iPhone users and even transfer files to/from my work computer using SSH when away. I never had anything better on any device - the two programs together for the iPhone cost less than 25 sermons for the Treo.
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post #69 of 73
11/7/08 at 6:54am
Nothing really stands out in this update for customers other than the ability to sync podcasts over HSPA/EDGE networks. There's still no copy/paste, lacks the ability to edit documents or even tether which are three features their main competitor RIM provides with the Blackberry line. The only way I was able to get tethering and video recording as well the ability to take pictures with digital zoom with out Apple's censorship circus was to jailbreak the iPhone 3G. Doing this has caused 6 other coworkers in the past week to jailbreak their iPhones after seeing what I could do with mine. Apple Executives and their developer team really need to take their heads out of the sand and listen to what customers have been asking for not just for several months but since the first iPhone was released. It's frustrating as a Mac user to see the way Apple seems to ignore what their customers want for the iPhone and what it could be capable of doing. It's like saying "Hey, lets make some more cash by getting into the cellphone market" then not do any real work when they get there. They seem to leave development of useful features to third party developers to come up with solutions though stop those same developers from putting their apps in the App Store if they believe it's something they can pawn off to customers as something Apple came up with and not the third party developer. Nullriver's NetShare app was pulled from the App Store and now it's rumored that Apple is working on providing tethering after the backlash from their customers. Snapture Labs still can't get approval for Snapture, same for the developer Dreamcatcher for iPhone Video Recorder. PDANet has been blocked from the App Store even though it's free and several carriers such as Rogers allow tethering for the iPhone data plan. I shouldn't have to jailbreak my iPhone to get features that are useful. This is the first time in my life that I'm really pissed at Apple's lack of business sense when it comes to what is and what is not considered a priority for the iPhone development.
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post #70 of 73
11/7/08 at 7:03am
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Nothing really stands out in this update for customers other than the ability to sync podcasts over HSPA/EDGE networks. There's still no copy/paste, lacks the ability to edit documents or even tether which are three features their main competitor RIM provides with the Blackberry line. The only way I was able to get tethering and video recording as well the ability to take pictures with digital zoom with out Apple's censorship circus was to jailbreak the iPhone 3G. Doing this has caused 6 other coworkers in the past week to jailbreak their iPhones after seeing what I could do with mine. Apple Executives and their developer team really need to take their heads out of the sand and listen to what customers have been asking for not just for several months but since the first iPhone was released. It's frustrating as a Mac user to see the way Apple seems to ignore what their customers want for the iPhone and what it could be capable of doing. It's like saying "Hey, lets make some more cash by getting into the cellphone market" then not do any real work when they get there. They seem to leave development of useful features to third party developers to come up with solutions though stop those same developers from putting their apps in the App Store if they believe it's something they can pawn off to customers as something Apple came up with and not the third party developer. Nullriver's NetShare app was pulled from the App Store and now it's rumored that Apple is working on providing tethering after the backlash from their customers. Snapture Labs still can't get approval for Snapture, same for the developer Dreamcatcher for iPhone Video Recorder. PDANet has been blocked from the App Store even though it's free and several carriers such as Rogers allow tethering for the iPhone data plan. I shouldn't have to jailbreak my iPhone to get features that are useful. This is the first time in my life that I'm really pissed at Apple's lack of business sense when it comes to what is and what is not considered a priority for the iPhone development.

They must be doing something right since people are more satisfied with their iphones than even those blackberries which have every feature in the world.
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post #71 of 73
11/10/08 at 6:01am
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Nothing really stands out in this update for customers other than the ability to sync podcasts over HSPA/EDGE networks. There's still no copy/paste, lacks the ability to edit documents or even tether which are three features their main competitor RIM provides with the Blackberry line. The only way I was able to get tethering and video recording as well the ability to take pictures with digital zoom with out Apple's censorship circus was to jailbreak the iPhone 3G. Doing this has caused 6 other coworkers in the past week to jailbreak their iPhones after seeing what I could do with mine. Apple Executives and their developer team really need to take their heads out of the sand and listen to what customers have been asking for not just for several months but since the first iPhone was released. It's frustrating as a Mac user to see the way Apple seems to ignore what their customers want for the iPhone and what it could be capable of doing. It's like saying "Hey, lets make some more cash by getting into the cellphone market" then not do any real work when they get there. They seem to leave development of useful features to third party developers to come up with solutions though stop those same developers from putting their apps in the App Store if they believe it's something they can pawn off to customers as something Apple came up with and not the third party developer. Nullriver's NetShare app was pulled from the App Store and now it's rumored that Apple is working on providing tethering after the backlash from their customers. Snapture Labs still can't get approval for Snapture, same for the developer Dreamcatcher for iPhone Video Recorder. PDANet has been blocked from the App Store even though it's free and several carriers such as Rogers allow tethering for the iPhone data plan. I shouldn't have to jailbreak my iPhone to get features that are useful. This is the first time in my life that I'm really pissed at Apple's lack of business sense when it comes to what is and what is not considered a priority for the iPhone development.

All of what you say is true but I will go one step further in saying that Apple now dribs and drabs its customers to death with virutally meaningless feature additions that are of no real value. Example. Now podcasts can be downloaded over 3G. Great, until you realize that all of the good ones or video podcasts are larger than the 10 meg limit imposed by Apple. Thus, this highly anticipated feature is useless, and you are stuck with downloading again via PC. However, many here will glady drink the kool-aid and swear that Apple does it again with another innovation. Apple is no better than M$ and the sooner people wake up and realize this the better. Apple is not here to do anything nice for anyone. I recognize the limitations of the iPhone and I adjust accordingly. I no longer use it as my primary telephony device as it simply is not up to the task.
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post #72 of 73
11/12/08 at 7:06am
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All of what you say is true but I will go one step further in saying that Apple now dribs and drabs its customers to death with virutally meaningless feature additions that are of no real value. Example. Now podcasts can be downloaded over 3G. Great, until you realize that all of the good ones or video podcasts are larger than the 10 meg limit imposed by Apple. Thus, this highly anticipated feature is useless, and you are stuck with downloading again via PC. However, many here will glady drink the kool-aid and swear that Apple does it again with another innovation. Apple is no better than M$ and the sooner people wake up and realize this the better. Apple is not here to do anything nice for anyone. I recognize the limitations of the iPhone and I adjust accordingly. I no longer use it as my primary telephony device as it simply is not up to the task.

You can still download >10MB via WIFI (I hope!)
You will be able to stream >10MB via 3G or WIFI (that includes video).

So above two options mean I no longer need a laptop with iTunes to sync my Podcasts
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11/14/08 at 10:13am
I'm in agreement that they should fix Safari asap. I don't even bother entering posts to a thread
anymore because it's a crapshoot if I can finish typing before Safari quits on me. Another thing that
bugs me is when I have 2 or more pages open in Safari. Nine times out of ten Safari will reload a
page when I click to another page.

Fix what's broken before adding stuff that nobody asked for.
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