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post #1 of 70
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Apple is facing yet another lawsuit over the performance of its iPhone 3G on AT&T's network but with added allegations that the company is ignoring the occurrence of hairline cracks in the handset's enclosure.

The 23-page suit, filed in a New York district court by Nassau County resident Avi Koschitzki, joins a chorus of complaints (1, 2, 3, 4) filed earlier this year, each of which charge the iPhone maker and its exclusive US wireless carrier AT&T with misrepresenting the performance of the new touchscreen handset by advertising it as "twice as fast" as its predecessor.

"Based upon information and belief the 3G iPhones demand too much power from the 3G bandwidths and the AT&T infrastructure is insufficient to handle this overwhelming 3G signal based on the high volume of 3G iPhones it and Apple have sold," Koschitzki's attorneys wrote.

They claim that due to the overloaded 3G network, it is quite common for iPhone users to only be on the 3G network for a few minutes before being bumped to the slower EDGE network despite being in geographical areas allegedly rich with 3G network coverage.

Koschitzki also claims that he is among several customers who've noticed hairline cracks form in the iPhone 3G's casing at or around the camera module, and adds that some customers have noticed similar cracks immediately upon opening their new iPhones' boxes for the first time.

Hairline cracks on iPhone 3G. | Image credits: Nevin Styre, Apple support discussions.

"Although Apple was and is aware that the iPhones were and are defective, and that consumers have experienced repeated instances of cracked housing, Apple has nevertheless allowed the defectively designed iPhones to be sold to the public," the complaint says.

Koschitzki, who is seeking class-action status on his suit, is also unhappy with the handful of iPhone Software updates released to date. He says they've failed to address a number of outstanding issues with the phone, ranging from third-party application crashes at launch to poor 3G reception.

The complaint, filed Wednesday, also names AT&T as a defendant.
post #2 of 70
Utterly ridiculous. Mobile phones are to be used, abused, and replaced. Not treated like some Ms. Prissy. The 3G claim is even further off the wall.
post #3 of 70
I say this as someone who a) has a BLACK iPhone and b) has no cracks:

I really like the plastic Apple has chosen--it has NO scratches even after being put in a pocket full of sand for a day. (Yes, really--I didn't realize the new jeans I bought would store so much gravel and release it over such a long period!) The chrome did scratch--the plastic did not. I'll accept the risk of a few cracks I won't notice. I'd notice scratches.

I'd certainly sing a different tune if I had major cracking problems--especially if they weren't just hairline, but actually developing toward breakage. I think Apple should replace the case if it arrived cracked, or became seriously cracked even when the user had not abused it (which I know is hard to judge).

I'm kind of glad my chrome edge got scratched early (nobody but me would notice anyway). Now I can get over the fear about something brand new, and just USE the thing!
post #4 of 70
I thought Apple would replace the iPhone if you had the cracks. If that is true then this is just a nuisance lawsuit.
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post #5 of 70
Oh christ, a manufacturing problem and the whole phone is defective? Give me a break.
The performance issue isn't even an Apple issue! He says himself AT&T has an overloaded network. Just another greedy douchebag.

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post #6 of 70
THIS is the new America. It has been a long time coming, but it is finally here.

Want to get rich quick? Even quicker than being a hedge fund manager? Then sue somebody with deep pockets over any little thing. Bought something you're not happy with? Don't take it back and get a refund: Sue the bastards! Feeling small and insignificant? Sue someone! Not happy with your current warranty or the results of the last election? Sue! Protest! Ignore the law! Don't let the SOB's get away with not bending to your will! Bring 'em to their knees! Cripple 'em!

(Oh, and don't worry about repercussions. There will NEVER be tort reform in this country like that in England. You won't have to pay a thing even if you lose the case, and the corporate brigands will be out millions! MILLIONS, do you hear?! That'll show 'em not to screw with a little guy!)
post #7 of 70
Are people really that petty? People amaze me, it seems, for all the wrong reasons. Honestly, does the damned thing still work or not? Get over your vain materialism.
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post #8 of 70
I just noticed that the jack itself in the 'Headphone Port' photo actually looks warped/bent, as if the owner caught his cord on something and the pressure tore at the plug, bending the metal and cracking the case. In any case, that one certainly doesn't look natural.
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post #9 of 70
This isn't a case of people abusing their phones. I have a black 8 gig and within 2 weeks of purchasing it it had over 20 cracks in the case. Only one is particularly noticeable - without it I probably wouldn't have found the others. AT&T refused to replace the unit because they didn't have one in stock within the first 30 days of my purchase, but they did acknowledge that it was "defective".

I opened a case with Apple Support over the phone. They said they would replace it, but I have to take it to an Apple store (several hours drive for me) or send it in and not have it for at least a week. I could get a "service phone" for $29 to use in the interim or pay $69 for Apple care and they would do the "service phone" for free.

I think this is unacceptable - asking me to pay or be inconvenienced to replace a product with manufacturing defects. Can you imagine if they charged you to replace the recently recalled iPhone power adaptor plug?

I understand why they don't want to make a big fuss about it, but they aren't really doing right by their customers who can't just pop over to the local Apple store whenever they feel like it.
post #10 of 70
Class action lawsuiters are the new patent troll.
It seems like a way to make some money anyone know of any defective comsumer products I can purchase and then sue.
Cheerio, I'm off to buy a 360. \

Nah seriously, is it just the White iPhone, I have the balck one, which is fine.
post #11 of 70
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I opened a case with Apple Support over the phone. They said they would replace it, but I have to take it to an Apple store (several hours drive for me) or send it in and not have it for at least a week. I could get a "service phone" for $29 to use in the interim or pay $69 for Apple care and they would do the "service phone" for free.

I think this is unacceptable - asking me to pay or be inconvenienced to replace a product with manufacturing defects. Can you imagine if they charged you to replace the recently recalled iPhone power adaptor plug?

I dont really follow you. They are asking you to send the phone in and they will replace it. Seems like fairly standard service to me. They will give you a temporary replacement phone to use for 29$. You dont have to get the replacement phone. Thats you're choice. Don't you have an old cell phone around that you can pop the sim card into while your phone is being serviced? I have 3 that I could use.
post #12 of 70
I've never had a phone that didn't eventually have cracks, scratches and all sorts of blemishes all over it. I've had a case on my phone since I bought it, but it still has some scratches (most of which come from the case itself rubbing against the phone). When I took the case off to clean it the other day, I noticed that the plastic has some 'bubbles' in it and the phone doesn't look so great anymore without the case. Do I care? Hell no. The phone still functions perfectly. Should I sue because they didn't invent some magic material that is completely resistant to cracks and scratches? I guess maybe I should.
post #13 of 70
Something is not right i think, i have had the new 3G in white since day one my wife also has the new 3G in black since day one, i have drop my phone about 10x and honestly no hair lines crack here, my wife has drop hers more than 50x i'll say and hers even has tiny chips of plastic come off but no hair lines crack, so i think something is not right, No everyone is happy that these phones are selling at the rate they are Apple has a lot of enemies, but i'll say this if my phone had crack i too would be pist.
post #14 of 70
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Originally Posted by Adamalicious View Post

This isn't a case of people abusing their phones. I have a black 8 gig and within 2 weeks of purchasing it it had over 20 cracks in the case. Only one is particularly noticeable - without it I probably wouldn't have found the others. AT&T refused to replace the unit because they didn't have one in stock within the first 30 days of my purchase, but they did acknowledge that it was "defective".

I opened a case with Apple Support over the phone. They said they would replace it, but I have to take it to an Apple store (several hours drive for me) or send it in and not have it for at least a week. I could get a "service phone" for $29 to use in the interim or pay $69 for Apple care and they would do the "service phone" for free.

I think this is unacceptable - asking me to pay or be inconvenienced to replace a product with manufacturing defects. Can you imagine if they charged you to replace the recently recalled iPhone power adaptor plug?

I understand why they don't want to make a big fuss about it, but they aren't really doing right by their customers who can't just pop over to the local Apple store whenever they feel like it.

I seem to recall an issue a few years back with iBooks where a strange artifact of the molding process left strange patterns in the plastic that looked like cracks but really weren't. I'm not saying that's what happened in your case, just a point of reference. Every manufacturing process is going to produce at least a few lemons.

I can sort of understand Apple's reluctance to provide advanced replacements if you can't get to an Apple store. They probably need to inspect the phone to be sure the damage isn't a result of abuse before they provide a replacement. What is bad (but not surprising since it's ATT) is that ATT couldn't give you some sort of IOU or rain check to allow you to return to the store once they got more phones in stock to replace yours.
post #15 of 70
Damn money-grubbers. Just get a replacement.
post #16 of 70
Was that Amy Winehouse's phone? I treat my (black) iPhone gently -- ie: I don't drop it -- and it is crackless. Another crackpot lawsuit by another crackhead shyster.
post #17 of 70
Wow this is nuts. I have very poor eyesight and have a -8 prescription in both eyes. I'm fine when I wear my glasses. When wearing my glasses I can't see any cracks in the areas mention. However, for whatever reason, I am able to see extreme details in things when I hold objects up close to my eyes when not wearing glasses. It's almost like using a magnifying glass. When I examine my iPhone like this, yes I do see a number of tiny cracks in those areas mention, especially around the camera. Talk about these people being anal. Cracks THAT tiny should not be an issue.
Also my phone has fallen out of my shirt pocket from about 2' when I've bent over a couple of times. The surface it hit was hard so this was probably the culprit. I have a friend who just bought his so I'm going to examine his.
post #18 of 70
"Although Apple was and is aware that the iPhones were and are defective, and that consumers have experienced repeated instances of cracked housing, Apple has nevertheless allowed the defectively designed iPhones to be sold to the public,"

So Apple knows they are selling a defective product, and the guy files a lawsuit to get them to fix said problem, you all blast him. WOW. Stop give Apple free reach arounds please.
post #19 of 70
Both my iPhone and my dad's have had to be replaced because of cracks. His actually cracked to the point where the hold switch broke off. Mine just had a pretty decent crack between the aluminum bezel and the hold switch. So yeah, we had to get them replaced. For my dad: no big deal, he lives 15 minutes from an apple store. For me: a little less convenient, as I live 2 1/2 hours from an apple store.

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I think this is unacceptable - asking me to pay or be inconvenienced to replace a product with manufacturing defects. Can you imagine if they charged you to replace the recently recalled iPhone power adaptor plug?

I understand why they don't want to make a big fuss about it, but they aren't really doing right by their customers who can't just pop over to the local Apple store whenever they feel like it.

with that said... yeah it sucked driving 5 hours round trip to get a phone replaced. BUT what else can I expect? What do you want apple to do? Drive it to your house?? Think about it from their side of things. How can they reasonably handle that situation and inconvenience people the least? I think that offering to replace the phone free of charge at their service locations, or mailing you a new one is not only reasonable but GENEROUS.

If you're THAT dependent upon having a phone... then you would have a second, cheaper handset as a backup... or you would go buy an indestructible titanium brick-phone. Its a phone! it's plastic! of course it can have problems! don't we all realize this upon buying it?

I mean, mine busted, and yeah it sucked... but I got over it. And if you've got time to be frequenting AppleInsider's forums... then you've probably got time to drive to an apple store several hours away - once - to get a replacement phone.

Lawsuits like this make me want to throw up all over people. Can't be inconvenienced by driving to an apple store or waiting on a mailed replacement... but has the time to file a huge lawsuit and pay huge lawyer fees?? hmmmmm
post #20 of 70
Here in Portland, it is quite common to have poor 3G reception or only Edge reception, even right downtown. Its an irritation and I curse AT&T everytime, but I never thought to sue over it.
post #21 of 70
I an understand people being upset that the phone is not "twice as fast".

I am astounded that no one complains that a phone advertised as "Half the price" is actually more expensive than the old version.


The original iPhone was $880 ($400 up front, plus $20/month for 24 months for the required data plan).

The iPhone 3G is $1,040 ($200 up front, plus 24 months of $30/month for the data plan, and $5/month for SMS messages)

Raising the price from $880 to $1,040 hardly seems like 'half the price'.

If a car dealer advertised like this it would be fraud. A car dealer can't clam to have halved the price for the car by lowering the down payment and compensating with increased monthly payments. In order to honestly lower the price, they need to reduce the amount you are required to pay.
post #22 of 70
Man, those are some grody lookin' iPhones. I'll bet 3G reception is lousy in coal mines, too, and sue over that, as well!
post #23 of 70
I've had the white iPhone since the day they came out, and it still looks brand new. I don't know what other people have been doing to their phones, but mine looks nothing like that.
post #24 of 70
I have a little hairline crack on a white one. But i really don't care. It's just a phone. I'm sure if I ask a replacement, faith will let me drop the new phone and break the screen or something

Actually the iPhone is well designed. I had lots of expensive phones before and the had an abuse look after a few months. My iPhone looks still the same except for the little hairline.
post #25 of 70
Yeah my white has a few cracks but you know what no big deal. Frankly I'm more concerned about them fixing Safari. Even at that I'm no rush to sue, the reality is pushing people to make a better product just doesn't work. I'm also confident that Apple realizes they have issues with iPhone software and I'm just as confident that there are very few lawyers that can actually help fix the software.


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post #26 of 70
Wow, that phone in the picture has been through the ringer. Way more than normal use I would suspect. I am guessing that if I wanted to sue, I would be tossing it around as well.
post #27 of 70
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Something is not right i think, i have had the new 3G in white since day one my wife also has the new 3G in black since day one, i have drop my phone about 10x and honestly no hair lines crack here, my wife has drop hers more than 50x i'll say and hers even has tiny chips of plastic come off but no hair lines crack, so i think something is not right, No everyone is happy that these phones are selling at the rate they are Apple has a lot of enemies, but i'll say this if my phone had crack i too would be pist.

If you drop your phones 10 and 50 times, you should expect it to be broken. The hairline cracks are bullshit excuses to sue.
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"Although Apple was and is aware that the iPhones were and are defective, and that consumers have experienced repeated instances of cracked housing, Apple has nevertheless allowed the defectively designed iPhones to be sold to the public,"

So Apple knows they are selling a defective product, and the guy files a lawsuit to get them to fix said problem, you all blast him. WOW. Stop give Apple free reach arounds please.

WRONG.

If the unit was truly defective, I'd be on this guys side... the fact is that he's suing because of cosmetic damage that in no way relates to performance, danger or functionality.

He's a greedy fool, like all the other thousands of greedy fools that feel they need a piece of the pie.

Apple is well aware of the cracks, they've said so themselves. Suing them over it is counter-productive and serves no purpose other than filling another moron's pockets.

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If you drop your phones 10 and 50 times, you should expect it to be broken. The hairline cracks are bullshit excuses to sue.

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post #30 of 70
i don't baby my phone. i have no problem if it gets a bit worn-looking. i don't expect to use it for more than 3 years or so. pretty low bar to satisfy me.

but, having examined my blk phone (about 4 months old), i was surprised to find that there are in fact a lot of cracks, similar to the ones in the posted photo. as long as they don't get much worse, it shouldn't be a big issue. but, there is also a break above the earphone jack in almost exactly the same place as the one in the photo. this clearly goes all the way through the case, and there's a slight difference in height.

so to all the people dismissing the reports of cracks as absurd, or clearly the result of unusual abuse, i think you ought to reconsider. there does appear to be a propensity for cracking. my other phones (including a 7 year old motorola) have no similar flaws. i don't necessarily see this as a design problem (except for the incredibly narrow section around the jack; obviously, that portion should have been reinforced or changed). as has been mentioned, it appears more like a manufacturing problem to me. i don't know about a lawsuit; i don't think apple should have to pay a big penalty on this kind of thing, as there isn't any appearance of misconduct. but... i do expect apple to stand behind the quality of the product. 6 months from now, if any of the cracks get much worse, or the breaks develop into snags, i expect them to replace the phone. if they won't do it without a hassle, then they absolutely should be sued.

otoh, if none of the cracks worsen, personally i'll probably slap some gaffer's tape on it and call it good.
post #31 of 70
The problem with Apple is they are now choosing Form over Function to the extreme. Jonathan Ive is to powerful, the glass is a bad idea, it cracks and reflex to much, the plastic is not strong and cracks, the new laptops are also garbage all in the name if FORM. The trackpad is a pain in the ass, the glass screen is ugly, glares and attracts fingerprints all in the name of design. I used to Love Apple's design because it also functioned just as well, now I could see it's all about the form engorging users real world needs.

post #32 of 70
I do not see how the cracks pictured here (around the camera, buttons or the headphone port ... OK, maybe the headphone port) would be caused by misuse. Drops would certainly not cause that either. They certainly appear to be flaws in the plastic and/or stress failures related to putting the device together.

That said, I'd suggest asking Apple or AT&T to repair/replace the phone under warranty, not sue them. I had a PDA with similar issues (brittle plastic which cracked at points where the phone went together) a few years back and the manufacturer had no problem with repairing it.
post #33 of 70
there is no "class" in class action suits. it should be renamed "mercenary law sue". This is "among several customers", not thousands, not hundreds. Just several.
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i don't baby my phone. i have no problem if it gets a bit worn-looking. i don't expect to use it for more than 3 years or so. pretty low bar to satisfy me.

but, having examined my blk phone (about 4 months old), i was surprised to find that there are in fact a lot of cracks, similar to the ones in the posted photo. as long as they don't get much worse, it shouldn't be a big issue. but, there is also a break above the earphone jack in almost exactly the same place as the one in the photo. this clearly goes all the way through the case, and there's a slight difference in height.

so to all the people dismissing the reports of cracks as absurd, or clearly the result of unusual abuse, i think you ought to reconsider. there does appear to be a propensity for cracking. my other phones (including a 7 year old motorola) have no similar flaws. i don't necessarily see this as a design problem (except for the incredibly narrow section around the jack; obviously, that portion should have been reinforced or changed). as has been mentioned, it appears more like a manufacturing problem to me. i don't know about a lawsuit; i don't think apple should have to pay a big penalty on this kind of thing, as there isn't any appearance of misconduct. but... i do expect apple to stand behind the quality of the product. 6 months from now, if any of the cracks get much worse, or the breaks develop into snags, i expect them to replace the phone. if they won't do it without a hassle, then they absolutely should be sued.

otoh, if none of the cracks worsen, personally i'll probably slap some gaffer's tape on it and call it good.


I purchased my black iPhone and a case for it on day 1. I absolutely baby my phone. It has never been dropped and when I lay it on a table I slide it out of it's leather pouch and rest it on that. It never comes in contact with a hard surface.

Just checked the phone and found a crack in the narrow plastic section between the chrome and headphone jack, along with some tiny ones around the camera. So what? The manufacturing may not be perfect, but I'd rather have a few cracks that no one sees than running Windows Mobile
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The problem with Apple is they are now choosing Form over Function to the extreme.

No that is not true. Apple's main goal since 1984 is better interface function. OSX 's interface has improved greatly, such as Expose, Quicklook, Stacks, Timemachine. Macs start-up a lot faster than my wintel box. iPhone's multi-touch is the best interface function for any small gadgets. The clickwheel is the best Mp3 interface.

Form over Fuction is DOS with a Vista eyecandy.
post #36 of 70
Lawsuits have their use, otherwise you're just a victim asking for more... I sure wish we had class actions in Europe, that would make the balance between the consumers and the big businesses a lot fairer. For instance, we would have less problem with oligarchic abuse or artificial prices...

Sometimes, you do have to get to justice, because companies won't give out what you paid for. For instance, until a couple of months ago, the iPhone "3G+" was limited to 384kbs in France. Bloggers started to complain louder and louder. Then, Orange unlocked it to 1.5Mbs, only for iPhones. A consumer association then took the matter to court - and bam, we're now on 3Mbs. But it's still only for iPhone, going to court will probably unlock the other phones, there is no reason a WM or RIM phone would need less bandwidth.

That's what justice is for. If it said "3G+" in the adds, I'd better be able to get 3G+ somewhere. Now, we're attacking Orange for that matter, because it's the easiest. Maybe in the USA it's easier to sue Apple. Anyway, it's not the business of the consumers to sort things out between the various contractors. You just sue the most visible - for instance Apple if that's where you bought your iPhone from. Then, Apple will turn against AT&T if that's where the responsability lies.

As for the cracks, this is a 700 device. It ought to have some basic level of quality. My antic Nokia 3210 is still in perfect shape, except for being obsolete, and it was not worth a tenth of that. Even my HP48 calculator from the 90s is still in perfect condition, and it too was cheaper than that.
post #37 of 70
I had an iPhone 3G, and a crack developed over the first three months. There was no damage on the phone, no drops, no nothing. Then a major crack at its docking connector.

I took it into the Apple Store in Chadstone (Melbourne, Australia) and they replaced it straight away. The Genius said he gets this "semi often" and that its "got to be a manufacturing issue as its far too regular in occurrence for random drops and breaks."

He also noted that the cracks only rarely occurred where drops generally occur on the device. it isnt easy to crack it at the back of the docking port, for example, as around there there are further extrusions which would earlier get the force applied. This is the type of crack that geniuses see far too often and "just replace under warranty."

BTW, i now practically wrap my iPhone in tissues.
post #38 of 70
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This isn't a case of people abusing their phones. I have a black 8 gig and within 2 weeks of purchasing it it had over 20 cracks in the case. Only one is particularly noticeable - without it I probably wouldn't have found the others. AT&T refused to replace the unit because they didn't have one in stock within the first 30 days of my purchase, but they did acknowledge that it was "defective".


that is crap. but it is ATT's crap. that is who you have the right to be pissed with. Not Apple. they tried to do what they could but they can't be expected to suddenly pop up an Apple Store next to your house for ya.

what you should have done was get up in some faces at ATT and demand that they get over their '30 day' issue. Telling them that they either get you a phone stat and waive the whole 'only in 30 days' or you will be back in an hour to cancel your contract (before 30 days is up they don't charge the term fee). right after you go to TMobile/Verizon/Sprint and transfer your service. I will put down money that being told they are on the verge of losing a customer over something that petty will make them think twice.

Also, blaming Apple cause ATT's network sucks is equal crap. It's up there with the folks that tried to sue because they unlocked their phones and then when Apple updated the software the phones bricked. People were claiming that Apple did it on purpose to punish them (would serve them right true or not) instead of admitting that Apple had no responsibility to make sure it wouldn't happen since you weren't supposed to tamper with the phone anyway.

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post #39 of 70
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Originally Posted by CREB View Post

Utterly ridiculous. Mobile phones are to be used, abused, and replaced. Not treated like some Ms. Prissy. The 3G claim is even further off the wall.

My problem with 3G is it works fine in Connecticut, but when I go to Manhattan I have to constantly reboot the phone to switch from Edge back to 3G. It happens a lot, which I have to tell you that the phone should work perfectly in Manhattan (the most populated place in the USA). I don't have time for a lawsuit, but I wish the phone would work properly since I'm paying $160+ a month for "unlimited" use.

Problems I have with 3G everywhere is when I click on weather it will say the update failed. The way around this I have found is to go into safari and do a search then go back to Weather.

When in Safari, the phone constantly will exit out of that application back to the main page.

I could list a whole plethora of bugs this phone exhibits. I hate the alternative which is WM7 so I wouldn't dare sue apple over these annoyances because the alternative is hell. I will say that what I am most disturbed about is the fact that all the good applications require voiding of the warranty, i.e. jailbreaking which I'm not willing to do as I want to keep my warranty.

I'm strongly considering the new MacBook Air because it is dual-link capable. It'll be my first Mac computer. I hope it's not as buggy as the iphone. It's one thing for the software to have ease of use (i.e. iphone has that) and quite another thing to put up with the bugs simply due to the ease of use is superior. With millions of these phones sold you would think R&D would product a better product for such basic features.

And while I'm on that subject. Yahoo weather is horribly inaccurate. NOAA or at least weatherbug or weather.com would be a far superior choice for the iphone. Plus the day forecast doesn't tell you very much...I'd prefer an hour by hour or at least morning/midday/night option. Personally, I just wish they'd allow you to download programs without having to jailbreak it. The whole "Apple must approve" what you download onto your iphone is crazy. If they did that for Mac or PC then people would be up in arms, but for a phone it's okay? double standard.

When people ask me how I like my iphone. I tell them that if you don't use the 3G or the GPS then you'll like it, but if you use those options then expect to charge your phone several times a day. I can drain a full charge in 45 minutes using navigation. I'd buy a thicker iphone just to have more battery life...the battery life is a joke.

This is my second iphone and I prefer the first iphone with a decent battery life and a reasonable priced plan...but there's no going back without an ETF.
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No that is not true. Apple's main goal since 1984 is better interface function. OSX 's interface has improved greatly, such as Expose, Quicklook, Stacks, Timemachine. Macs start-up a lot faster than my wintel box. iPhone's multi-touch is the best interface function for any small gadgets. The clickwheel is the best Mp3 interface.

Form over Fuction is DOS with a Vista eyecandy.

My form over function problem is with battery life. I would GLADLY buy a thicker 3G iphone with a longer battery life. I can drain the 3G iphone in less than one hour using the GPS navigation from a full charge. I charge my phone multiple times each day. If you just talk and text then it's fine, but the 3G and/or GPS use is a real drainer. Or even give us an option of swapping out the battery.

I'm a PC user who is strongly considering the new MAC because I want to run my IBM T221 off a 13 inch computer (the macbook air...the new one with dual-link). I'm still waiting on my $99 dual-link adapter to see if it'll run 3840x2400 resolution. I'm hoping that it does and hoping to switch over to MAC because I hate VISTA. I have several PCs and ever since the SP3 updates I have been forced to upgrade my IBMs as that update messes up my components. Anyway, my point is I am VERY annoyed with macbook air for following the same path of the iphone, i.e. not allowing to swap out batteries. Very few coffee shops and bookstores in Manhattan allow you to use power supplies. Thus I am considering the MacBook. I would buy the MacBook 15.4" in a heartbeat if they offered WUXGA screen but instead apple is stupidly following the 100ppi or less rule. So my only reason to buy a Mac is for the slim factor of the AIR. Otherwise, I might as well buy a PC and install Leopard...but that would be if a small PC actually was dual-link capable which 99.99999 percent are single-link thus Apple is God in the portable dual-link world.
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