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post #81 of 152
Predictions:

1.
There will be new products at MWSF
2.
I won't be in the market for them nor will I be able to afford the ones I might be in the market for.

The above I'm pretty sure on, below are the guesses.

1.
New iMacs with the top two models quad core. The top two models will support large amounts of RAM.

2.
The 17" MBP replacement comes online.

3.
A maxi iPhone or IPod Touch comes online. If this doesn't have more RAM and Flash storage it will die a horrible death in the marketplace. The primary goal for these devices is more screen real estate and much more flash for storage of large media files. They might even call it Newton 2. .

4.
Apple introduces it's first robot. Named Cylon #1 it realizes explosive sales growth. This robot is a sharp looking blonde that has a very acceptable desire to wear resort wear. Ever Maclot out there buys one as it is the only emotional fullfilment to be found for these guys. Eventually Apples new robot realizes that it is smarter than the average Maclot and.....

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post #82 of 152
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Remember Apple sells its AppleTV product near cost. What you are proposing makes the AppleTV into essentially a very stripped down Mac (yes. technically is was before, but it couldn't be used this way).

You give me a Safari browser, iTunes media, and iTunes App Store apps/games and this could serve as a desktop for a lot of people...

I am not so sure this will happen...

Dave


Dave,

Thanks for your comments.

Near cost? How do we know this? Why would they?

I agree that such an improved Apple TV would perhaps too good, in relation to the rest of the product line. On the other hand, it does fit with the current economic conditions. My prediction/wish is also based on that they would drop the Mac Mini.


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post #83 of 152
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Originally Posted by Daniel B View Post

Dave,

Thanks for your comments.

Near cost? How do we know this? Why would they?

I agree that such an improved Apple TV would perhaps too good, in relation to the rest of the product line. On the other hand, it does fit with the current economic conditions. My prediction/wish is also based on that they would drop the Mac Mini.


Best,

Daniel

Hi Daniel,

I got the information here:

http://gizmodo.com/349882/first-proo...ucks-on-itunes

Dave
post #84 of 152
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

Apple won't drop the price of the iPhone- Priced dropped after three months on the market
Apple won't release a phone- Iphone released
Apple won't ever switch to intel CPUs- we switched
Apple won't release a sub-$500 Mac- Mac Mini released.

I guess the more people say that it won't happen, the better chance that it will.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about but food for thought:

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Apple won't release a phone- Iphone released

-- Don't ask me to make such a claim as I wondered what took so damn long.

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Apple won't ever switch to intel CPUs- we switched

-- I worked there. They always had Intel. It was not never, but when.

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Apple won't release a sub-$500 Mac- Mac Mini released.

-- starts at $599 and isn't going down in pricing. In fact, it'll soon climb up to $699 or $799 if they add a PCI Express 2.0 slot and throw in a decent GPU for OpenCL, not to mention bump up the CPU to be no more than 12 months behind the current market. And this is without a display, so a Netbook won't do squat for their bottom line.

If Intel isn't into it nor AMD [the people who actually make the CPUs] how hard does one have to ignore reason and embrace fantasy for this to occur?

But have no fear: The fantasy about a 10" tablet touch screen is even more ludicrous. The price and technologies for large productions just aren't available.
post #85 of 152
There is something I have to say to get this through people's thick skulls:

APPLE doesn't release a product without at least 2 years of internal design, development, testing and redesign, with an eye on market conditions 6 months ahead of any pending release.

The iPhone was on the drawing board 3 years before they released it.

Let Apple reach 15% in Marketshare before frothing at the mouth about 10" tablets or the even more laughable 8" iPhone.
post #86 of 152
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Apple TV, Take 3 software update:
- iTunes, making it a stand-alone media server

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not what they did with Ver 2.3? When they've added airtunes for airport express support? Does that not mean it will run as a media server without the computer running?Maybe I'm misreading this Apple Insider Article

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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

There is something I have to say to get this through people's thick skulls:

APPLE doesn't release a product without at least 2 years of internal design, development, testing and redesign, with an eye on market conditions 6 months ahead of any pending release.

The iPhone was on the drawing board 3 years before they released it.

Let Apple reach 15% in Marketshare before frothing at the mouth about 10" tablets or the even more laughable 8" iPhone.

Why the rudeness? Let me offer one of my favourite quotes by Bertrand Russell:

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."

Apple's time-to-market might by 2 years for a new type of product, but they could very well have been experimenting with prototype tablets for years.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not what they did with Ver 2.3? When they've added airtunes for airport express support? Does that not mean it will run as a media server without the computer running?Maybe I'm misreading this Apple Insider Article

Well, I'm not running 2.3, but as I understand it you still need another computer running iTunes (sync or stream). I would like my Apple TV to be the center of my media, not an extender.

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post #88 of 152
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Don't forget about the groundbreaking ipod "stick"!

Don't you mean "stuffed"?
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post #89 of 152
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Well, I'm not running 2.3, but as I understand it you still need another computer running iTunes (sync or stream). I would like my Apple TV to be the center of my media, not an extender.

Best,

Daniel

That's what I'd like too, that's why I've held off on the Apple TV. I'd be interested to hear if Ver 2.3 did anything about this.

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post #90 of 152
well, sorta. i needed a computer and internet to set it up, which i did at my office. (i don't have internet at home, i just can't bring myself to pay for it in 2 places). most the time i don''t have a computer running at home and when i do, i don't connect it to appletv. but i have all my music on it, so it serves as a digital media server. i can't download movies from itunes, but i doubt i would anyway. it works for that limited purpose, but again, i had to have a computer and internet for the initial setup. (why apple makes that a requirement is beyond my understanding.) but you most definitely do not need to use a computer to use apple tv to store your audio, video, and picture files and access them through your entertainment center after the initial setup.
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well, sorta. i needed a computer and internet to set it up, which i did at my office. (i don't have internet at home, i just can't bring myself to pay for it in 2 places). most the time i don''t have a computer running at home and when i do, i don't connect it to appletv. but i have all my music on it, so it serves as a digital media server. i can't download movies from itunes, but i doubt i would anyway. it works for that limited purpose, but again, i had to have a computer and internet for the initial setup. (why apple makes that a requirement is beyond my understanding.) but you most definitely do not need to use a computer to use apple tv to store your audio, video, and picture files and access them through your entertainment center after the initial setup.

And are you able to stream from your Apple TV to Airport Express with the new firmware?

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post #92 of 152
i don't have the airport express. my apple tv is hooked directly to my receiver and my tv. i suspect you would not be able to stream it to the airport express w/o a computer, though i couldn't say for sure.
post #93 of 152
Just thinking out loud here. It seems this is probably the latest I remember before the show before Apple has made their usual announcement that Steve Jobs would be keynoting the event. Just seems strange. I am heading out for the show and really hope Steve makes it. I sure hope they formally announce it soon.
post #94 of 152
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post

Just thinking out loud here.

That's bad, don't do that. He's giving a keynote. The time is already set.
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post #95 of 152
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Originally Posted by gugy View Post

I will predict or wish:

Mac Pro redesigned case

Cinema Display 24", 30", larger than 30"? redesign like the new 24 but with option for non-glossy screens please!

Mac Mini redesigned. slimmer case.

AppleTV hardware and software update.

iLife and iWork apps.
maybe iPhone 32gig.

Snow Leopard preview

that's it.

That is exactly what I am thinking, with the subtraction of a redone Mac Pro case, doubt that, and as far SL, I think they will unveil the Website Pages for it... I know they already have some but I am thinking about may some full blown layouts..

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post #96 of 152
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

That's bad, don't do that. He's giving a keynote. The time is already set.

Well now O'Reilly has picked up this same idea as well.
http://blogs.oreilly.com/digitalmedi...-macworld.html

And actually if you go to the feature presentations section of MW Expo web site where they list the keynote normally there is no mention of it yet.

http://macworldexpo.com/SitePage.asp...8-992e7aa1d32b

I am going to be really bummed if he doesn't make it this year. I have been to the keynote many times and it is an annual trip for me.
post #97 of 152
Naturally, the 17" Macbook, iMac, Mac Pro and Mini are all due for some update, refresh or more, so this begs the question: Anyone hear of any shortages? I haven't seen anything about slow supply channels as of yet. Obviously, the christmas shopping season makes this a unique time, but is there any word on this?
post #98 of 152
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Given the news that Phil Schiller's doing the keynote, and that it's Apple's last Macworld trade show, I'm revising my prediction:

1. 17" MacBook Pro unibody enclosure
2. New Mac minis
3. Snow Leopard preview
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post #99 of 152
No Steve-note.

"This changes everything."

So, I will revise my prediction/wish. The tablet is out. I think Jobs would have wanted to present such an innovative product himself. It's still coming in the next 6 months, in a special event before WWDC.

The rest is the same:

Apple TV, Take 3 software update

- iTunes, making it a stand-alone media server
- Safari
- Keyboard & mouse (wireless)
- External HDs (USB)
- App Store with apps & games (hey, it's X-mas)

iPhone, software update

- Push Notification, IM app demo
- Turn-by-turn navigation, TomTom demo
- Tethering
- USB storage

iTunes

- Flat rate subscription (like Spotify)


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post #100 of 152
I would just like to see a new 17" MBP with everything upgraded, including a Blu-Ray drive.
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post #101 of 152
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Originally Posted by DHagan4755 View Post

Given the news that Phil Schiller's doing the keynote, and that it's Apple's last Macworld trade show, I'm revising my prediction:

1. 17" MacBook Pro unibody enclosure
2. New Mac minis
3. Snow Leopard preview

I think you're exactly right. Those three things (in addition to the prerequisite "how things are going" talk) should fill a two hour keynote.
post #102 of 152
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Originally Posted by gugy View Post

I will predict or wish:

Mac Pro redesigned case

Cinema Display 24", 30", larger than 30"? redesign like the new 24 but with option for non-glossy screens please!

Mac Mini redesigned. slimmer case.

AppleTV hardware and software update.

iLife and iWork apps.
maybe iPhone 32gig.

Snow Leopard preview

that's it.


Even with no Steve at the keynote, I stand by my predictions. The only thing I can see is possibly a no redesign enclosure for Mac Pro. Everything else can be introduce by Phil. Let's hope so.
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post #103 of 152
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Originally Posted by Outsider View Post

My predictions:

Snow Leopard demo, but not too much. SL is supposed to be an evolution to Leopard, so maybe some technology details will be expanded on, demo the new Finder, application demos to show off the speed of Grand Central.

iMac updates. No case redesign, but the motherboard will use DDR3 and NVIDIA nForce chipset with 9600M GT graphics chip. Intel Core 2 Quad and Duo. Same screen sizes. No-brainer update.

Mac mini. Gets discontinued.

Mac TV upgraded.

The Mac. A cube Mac in the same vein as the PowerMac G4 Cube.
  • 8x8x8 cube
  • Big enough to house a full size optical drive
  • 3.5" hard drive
  • 7.6x7.6 motherboard
  • 3 DIMM slots for triple channel DDR3
  • Core i7 processor (2.6-3.2GHz)
  • 1 PCIe 16x slot
  • External power supply
  • $799 for 2.66GHz - 3GB RAM - 250GB HDD - Radeon HD 2400
  • $1299 for 2.93GHz - 3GB RAM - 320GB HDD - Radeon HD 2600
  • $1999 for 3.2GHz - 3GB RAM - 500GB HDD - NVIDIA 8800GT

No Mac Pro updates at this time.


I like the $799 model actually, Aluminum and black case - that would be very cool.
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post #104 of 152
What I would like to see, regarding only the iPhone, and only software updates:

1) add the capability of using the iPhone as modem, via Wi-Fi or cable, it doesn't matter how;

2) new "traditional" SMS view mode. I don't like the "chat mode";

3) add the capability of synchronizing calendard items/events with Windows Calendar or Mozilla Thunderbird/Lightning or Sunbird (all of these use the .ics format)

That's my 2 cents

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post #105 of 152
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Originally Posted by DHagan4755 View Post

No, inappropriate venue for that...it will wait until NAB in Vegas in April.

Did Apple not attend NAB last year? MacExpo may not be the right place, but if they are not going to be going to any or as many tradeshows, then they'll have to take full advantage of the shows they do attend or yes, have mini announcement events themselves.

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post #106 of 152
Or are they going to want to give Phil a hugh platform from which to be announced to the world, and have him showing off a ton of new stuff?

Is steve going to be gone from all future announcement events, and is phil the new steve?

I'm thinking this could be a much bigger event then most folks expect. This is Phil's jump-off event
as the new (or is it temporary spokesman) - and if so, they are going to want folks leaving saying "Man did you see that NEW (X) that PHIL showed off, Man that thing rocks" "What do you think of the NEW (X)" "God I never saw that one coming!"

Some food for thought.

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Or are they going to want to give Phil a hugh platform from which to be announced to the world, and have him showing off a ton of new stuff?

Is steve going to be gone from all future announcement events, and is phil the new steve?

I'm thinking this could be a much bigger event then most folks expect. This is Phil's jump-off event
as the new (or is it temporary spokesman) - and if so, they are going to want folks leaving saying "Man did you see that NEW (X) that PHIL showed off, Man that thing rocks" "What do you think of the NEW (X)" "God I never saw that one coming!"

Some food for thought.

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I have no idea how many announcements Apple will make and I don't care about Phil showing off, but there are a lot of new products they need to release in the near future. Every desktop Mac, right now, is more or less odsoleted by new tech. and needs to be replaced with an updated model. Plus the 17" Macbook Pro, Snow Leopard, and most of the rest of Apple's software suite.

I'm just saying, if they're going to make a lot of announcements, they have no shortage of things to announce.
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very desktop Mac, right now, is more or less odsoleted by new tech. and needs to be replaced with an updated model.

Amen.

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I have no idea how many announcements Apple will make and I don't care about Phil showing off, but there are a lot of new products they need to release in the near future. Every desktop Mac, right now, is more or less odsoleted by new tech. and needs to be replaced with an updated model.

Not only updated tech, but by lack of growth margins in the designs. When you count on mobile platform keeping up with the desktop systems (like it had in the core series prior to quad core systems) and then chip technology moves in a way you did not expect, you either have to wind up changing the design, perhaps taking a couple steps back in the process, or staying the course with a machine that is falling further and further behind contemporary desktops.
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Not only updated tech, but by lack of growth margins in the designs. When you count on mobile platform keeping up with the desktop systems (like it had in the core series prior to quad core systems) and then chip technology moves in a way you did not expect, you either have to wind up changing the design, perhaps taking a couple steps back in the process, or staying the course with a machine that is falling further and further behind contemporary desktops.

Hear here! It's time Apple stopped making nothing but portable computers (except the Mac Pro).
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Hear here! It's time Apple stopped making nothing but portable computers (except the Mac Pro).

Well I do think Apple realized this issue when they turned the iMac into a hybrid system with the higher wattage "portable CPUs". To be honest I don't mind to much the approach taken with Mini as it has it's purpose. The problem with Apples line up is the lack of alternatives.

In any event as iMacs have continued to adopt wider and wider screens the use of desktop processors should have become far less of an issue. Cooling should be much easier to manage in a large wide screen with the right thermal considerations.

What I'm saying is that Apple doesn't need to sacrifice the iMacs design in order to address the thermal issues of desktop components. The very wideness of the screens gives them a lot more area to cool the components.

The other thing Apple could consider is some of the components being moved to the base. This would lighten the machine a bit and spread out heat production. An example here might be to put the CD drive and disk drive in the base. That would atleast make the CD drive easier to get to.


I'm still hoping for a bigger surprise than seems to be the common wisdom.


Dave
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Well I do think Apple realized this issue when they turned the iMac into a hybrid system with the higher wattage "portable CPUs". To be honest I don't mind to much the approach taken with Mini as it has it's purpose. The problem with Apples line up is the lack of alternatives.

In any event as iMacs have continued to adopt wider and wider screens the use of desktop processors should have become far less of an issue. Cooling should be much easier to manage in a large wide screen with the right thermal considerations.

What I'm saying is that Apple doesn't need to sacrifice the iMacs design in order to address the thermal issues of desktop components. The very wideness of the screens gives them a lot more area to cool the components.

The other thing Apple could consider is some of the components being moved to the base. This would lighten the machine a bit and spread out heat production. An example here might be to put the CD drive and disk drive in the base. That would atleast make the CD drive easier to get to.


I'm still hoping for a bigger surprise than seems to be the common wisdom.


Dave

Or they could realize that the iMac is perfect as is, it's just not the right tool for the job in the upper middle to high end desktop market. It can't be the perfect universal desktop that Jobs wants it to be and if they try to cram even the 65w SFF quad cores you're going to get a machine that is too noisy for consumers and doesn't do the trick for the prosumer market due to its lack of expansion. Its dead quiet and takes up very little room making it ideal for families. Why screw it up trying to make it more than the form factor allows.
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Or they could realize that the iMac is perfect as is, it's just not the right tool for the job in the upper middle to high end desktop market.

There are two problems with that thinking upon Apples part. First the large screen iMacs make them very suitable for higher end uses. Second, Apple doesn't have a middle to upper end machine performance wise, so it would make lots of sense to beef up the big machine.
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It can't be the perfect universal desktop that Jobs wants it to be and if they try to cram even the 65w SFF quad cores you're going to get a machine that is too noisy for consumers and doesn't do the trick for the prosumer market due to its lack of expansion.

It would help out with that segment of the market looking for more reasonable performance for their CPU dollar. That is important. As to thermal management, really it isn't a problem as they have almost the entire length of the display to arrange cooling. A proper layout of the motherboard would spread out the hot points to maximize thermal flow.
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Its dead quiet and takes up very little room making it ideal for families. Why screw it up trying to make it more than the form factor allows.

It is not a question of screwing it up but maximizing the machines potential. Besides there needs to be more differentiation between the lowest end machine and the top end. In any event if you got it in your head that a 65 watt processor is impossible then for you it never will be. You have convinced yourself before the attempt.

Look I know this won't get us to top end desktop performance range at all. But it will bump the iMac Enoch that it will cover a wider range of applications easily. Plus what is with complaining about a 65 watt CPU and then not complaining about the GPU? Heck I'd like to see two GPUs in the high end iMac and I believe it is doable.


Dave
post #114 of 152
It would be very expensive considering they use mobile GPUs in the iMac.
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Originally Posted by Daniel B View Post

Why the rudeness? Let me offer one of my favourite quotes by Bertrand Russell:

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."

Thank you for the quote. I've been trying to remember who said that, but I wasn't sure....
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post #116 of 152
Where is my mactouch dang nabbit!!!!!!!111111
post #117 of 152
Here's my predictions:

Mac OS X Snow Leopard demo, "coming Q2 2009".

iTunes 9 and Apple TV Take 3
-1080p full-length movie downloads for Mac and Apple TV (this is the reason why there's no Blu-ray in Macs)
-Enhanced Front Row integration on Macs; Media Center integration for Windows Vista
-Free download available today

New iMac
-Same form factor
-Core i7 processors
-Up to 1 TB storage
-$1199 to $1799

New Mac mini
-NVIDIA chipset, faster Core 2 Duo
-New, 25% smaller form factor
-$499 and $699

Mac distribution deal with Walmart and Sam's Club:
-iMac, MacBook, and Mac mini to be sold at many Walmart and Sam's Club stores

The iPhone
-"Huge success worldwide", talks sales
-Announces five major new carrier deals for iPhone: Verizon Wireless (USA), Telus (Canada), KDDI (Japan), SK Telecom (South Korea), China Mobile
-iPhone 3G for Verizon Wireless: features both CDMA/EV-DO 800/1900 and GSM 850/900/1800/1900+HSPA 2100 radios for world connectivity, along with Wi-Fi
-All features of other iPhone models are present
-Launches in February; same pricepoints as AT&T's iPhone models
-New version of iPhone: iPhone nano
-Smaller and lighter, "fully-featured", runs App Store apps
-4 GB for $99, 8 GB for $149
-Available in March in US, Canada, Japan, and most European countries; April elsewhere (will be offered with prepaid plans in Europe)
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Originally Posted by iNtel iNside View Post

New iMac
-Same form factor
-Core i7 processors
-Up to 1 TB storage
-$1199 to $1799

With a Core i7 and the associated x58 chipset, the iMac's casing would melt.
post #119 of 152
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Originally Posted by iNtel iNside View Post

Here's my predictions:
-Announces five major new carrier deals for iPhone: Verizon Wireless (USA), Telus (Canada), KDDI (Japan), SK Telecom (South Korea), China Mobile
-iPhone 3G for Verizon Wireless: features both CDMA/EV-DO 800/1900 and GSM 850/900/1800/1900+HSPA 2100 radios for world connectivity, along with Wi-Fi

Wait...
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ntil_2010.html

Didn't this get locked in exclusive until 2010? Apple isn't bailing THAT fast on ATT...hell...they still can't keep them in stock!
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post #120 of 152
it has never been confirmed that apple is locked in to att til 2010, all the reports out there were based on an article by usa today.

I am not saying usa today was wrong.....just that they might be. keeping my fingers crossed. In my opinion this is the perfect time to release an iphone for verizon.
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