General thoughts thread on Jaguar

Hi all. I was just wondering what most of you thought of Jaguar, now that it's out and y'all have had a chance to play. The one thing I'm noticing here on these boards is the lack of complaints due to speed in 10.2. Anybody care to comment on their experiences with the new OS?

Supposedly, an update is coming out within the next two weeks that will resolve most of the major bugs, many of the minor ones, AND improve Quartz Extreme performance. Very cool.

My buddy is ecstatic with 10.2, also. He bought a dual 500 a few years back on my recommendation. I told him that the dual 500 will actually seem like it's getting faster over time: at first it was fast because 500 WAS the fastest they had; then when 10 came out, the OS utilized both processors so things were smoother for him; 10.1 made it even faster; and now, with 10.2, my friend has called me up almost every day (or else he just uses iChat, heh) to tell me how awesome his machine is. Ahhhh. Gotta love the enthusiasm of the less jaded.

[quote]Originally posted by Moogs:
<strong>Significantly less than XP I wager (any edition).</strong><hr></blockquote>

lol Yea. That was hard. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

[quote]Originally posted by Brian Paulsen:
<strong>It seems to be a major pain in the ass to get networked drives to connect upon startup. Doesn't anybody at Apple ever use Windows to see what the competition is doing? I have yet to figure out how to get this basic operation to happen automatically for me.
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I posted in another thread, but I thought I should repeat here: There IS a way to automatically access your network drives without a password prompt. You can do this by going into Keychain Access under Application/Utilities. Select the desired server you wish to access and, in the Access Control tab, click "Always allow access to this item." It's gonna ask you for your password to make changes to the keychain, and then you'll be able to access it without a password dialogue forever. To make it come up at login, just drag the mounted network volume to the Login Items panel in System Preferences, and the next time you log in, it will be mounted on your desktop.

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[quote]Originally posted by Brian Paulsen:
<strong>Hmm, that didn't work. Any other suggestions?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What do you mean it didn't work? How can it not work? What kind of volume are you trying to mount? Give me a bit more detail, there's no reason login items, in concert with Keychain, shouldn't automatically mount your network shares. I do it all the time.

[quote]Originally posted by Brian Paulsen:
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It's an smb mount. Here's what I get:

The operation could not be completed because no application was found to open the Internet location file "mygroup;brian@thor-brian"

If I go to "Connect to Server..." and click on that same location from my favorite servers, I don't get an authentication notice anymore, so it appears that the Keychain part is working.

I will note that when I set up my server to do AFP mounts, it seems to work better. However, when I log in, I still get a dialog box prompting me for a username and password, but at least the Keychain is filling in the password for me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hmmm.... that's interesting, about mounting SMB volumes at start up. I'll look into it further for you when I'm in the office Wednesday. (Sorry it's gonna take that long, but I'm really baffled by that.)

But you said it works with AFP mounts, huh? But it still prompts you to press OK? That's because it's set not set to Always allow access under Access Control tab in Keychains. You have to change this setting on each individual item for it to not even prompt you. Hope that helps.

[quote]Originally posted by Brian Paulsen:
<strong> Address Book - geez, what a disappointment. Here I was thinking that the address book would actually use LDAP. In other words, I thought that maybe the OS would be running an LDAP server that the address book would connect to. This would make it so damn easy to transfer all the contacts to my main server.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can't help you there, mate, sorry. Although, Adress Book DOES support drag and drop exporting and importing, as well as exporting the information to vCards if you select more than one.


[quote]<strong> Sherlock: no google, and no customization? Thanks for nothing.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Again, can't help you there. That's an issue with you, the Sherlock development team, and maybe somebody from the co that created Watson.


[quote]<strong> Speed. This isn't a knock against Jaguar, but I don't see much of an improvement. Then again, I didn't think the speed on 10.1.5 was all that bad.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Jaguar is MUCH faster if you have 768 megs or more of RAM. RAM is cheap, so don't bitch! (too loud.) (Although I have NO right to complain about OS speed: I have a 933 G4 with a GeForce 4Ti and 1024 megs of RAM, speed has never really been an issue so I can't really relate.)


[quote]<strong> CiscoVPN doesn't work because kmodload and kmodstat weren't installed. It seems very bizarre that Jaguar was released without a way to load modules. (In fairness, perhaps they have been moved to some other directory)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Again, sorry, can't help you there. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

10.2 was an excellent upgrade, in my opinion, and judging from the lack of complaints here in the AI forums, I would say that most agree. Sorry you don't think the little tweaks in Jag plus all the huge features weren't worth it. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

[quote]Originally posted by Brian Paulsen:
<strong>I double-checked and I have the "Always allow access" set for the server on the AFP stuff and I still get the login prompt. As I said, though, the password is filled in at least.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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