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Many of these networks have the potential to become formidable platforms in their own right.



Porn was the driving force behind many technologies, streaming, SEO, file-sharing just to name a few. It is more influential than people think. I'm not saying that lack of porn will break apple, but general increased levels of freedom that will be available from Android , could well eat into Apples market share, and a contributing factor will be availability of porn and other trash.

The gentleman who criticize this subject being brought up are not history scholars obviously. I recall lectures at University in the history of art department referencing the volume of 'oil on canvas' being heavily influenced over the centuries by such matters too. Don't forget to add in the development of the camera, the development of film, the development of moving pictures ... all had massive uptake due to, shall we say, 'visual art'. The VHS tape deck's success over the superior rival is attributed to the same thing as it was far cheaper and quality wasn't the main concern for 'those uses'.

Apple should not do anything to encourage porn openly, but speaking as a share holder, Apple should not do anything to prevent whatever use an owner wishes in this area. I totally agree with you, history shows if some iPhone knock off makes porn usage very simple it may do a 'VHS over Beta' repeat.
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Re: multitouch: I think Apple has specific patents on capacitive multitouch, there are other forms of it, one involves reading the internal reflection of the glass panel with an array of sensors. I think Microsoft's surface uses an infrared light and camera to see where objects are touching the table.

Apple doesn't have any patents that would stop other capacitive touchscreen phones coming out. You bet that Samsung are working on a sequal to the Omnia with multitouch.

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As is customary with most Nokia phone introductions, the N97 lacks support for AT&T's 3G network.

It supports HSDPA on 900/1900/2100Mhz. Doesn't that cover AT&T?

Personally, I'm looking forward to the N97. The iPhone has too many limitations to satisfy a nerd like me - especially as I've got an iPod touch anyway. I've currently got a Nokia N95 8GB and I'm very happy with it, apart from the lack of a keyboard.

32GB onboard + 32GB microSDHC should be fun.
post #43 of 130
Folks, we know Apple is listening, they're not re-acting as fast as we'd like, but they are listening.

All this does, is help Apple to decide what features they NEED to come out with. If we all complain enough about features we'd like, and the competition comes out with them, then Apple will give much more serious look at these features.

Apple will get beat to many "cool" features for phones, it's whether or not, these features really matter to folks.

Some features are wants, while some features / requests are needs. I believe Apple looks at all of these and decides which is the most important at the time and makes them part of the new iPhone.

If Apple came out with a phone that did EVERYTHING we wanted it to do, WE'D want more with the next new model, because after all, it doesn't do this what ever to hell "this" is.

This is good for us and for Apple, so sit back and enjoy the ride, I promise you'll be glad you did.

In case you haven't noticed, Apple stock is a GREAT buy!

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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

The gentleman who criticize this subject being brought up are not history scholars obviously. I recall lectures at University in the history of art department referencing the volume of 'oil on canvas' being heavily influenced over the centuries by such matters too. Don't forget to add in the development of the camera, the development of film, the development of moving pictures ... all had massive uptake due to, shall we say, 'visual art'. The VHS tape deck's success over the superior rival is attributed to the same thing as it was far cheaper and quality wasn't the main concern for 'those uses'.

Apple should not do anything to encourage porn openly, but speaking as a share holder, Apple should not do anything to prevent whatever use an owner wishes in this area. I totally agree with you, history shows if some iPhone knock off makes porn usage very simple it may do a 'VHS over Beta' repeat.

Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.

Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.

Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.

You are right on point with your post. When 3G came out, we joked that it stood for: Girl, Games, Gaming. It seems that the gaming missed the mark, games are floundering but girls are alive and kicking.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.

Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.


Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?

Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.

Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
post #47 of 130
God bless The Hun
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post #48 of 130
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Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?

Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.

Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.

Not everyone who looks at porn is"creepy" or "immoral" or "perverted" or"endangers children" or whatever other nonsense you just said. If you are uncomfortable with the human form I'm sorry to say but you are the odd one out.

Porn is a relevant topic, I 'was' having a sensible discussion as to the potential affects porn may have on the adoption of the iphone until you randomly accused me of being "an idiot" for mentioning sex.

I dont believe I have mentioned porn once in the many years I have viewed this site until today.

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The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad

The fact that I spoke the truth? Would you rather I lied to you?
post #49 of 130
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

Not everyone who looks at porn is"creepy" or "immoral" or "perverted" or"endangers children" or whatever other nonsense you just said. If you are uncomfortable with the human form I'm sorry to say but you are the odd one out.

Porn is a relevant topic, I 'was' having a sensible discussion as to the potential affects porn may have on the adoption of the iphone until you randomly accused me of being "an idiot" for mentioning sex.

I have no problem with the human form. It's the EXPLICIT use of the human form. (Do you even know what porn is?) And I called you an idiot for bringing up porn and masturbation, not sex. Porn is no more relevant than slavery or drug addiction.

But hey, you keep telling yourself whatever you need to make yourself comfortable with it. If I'm the odd man out, then thank you.
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Originally Posted by dualie View Post

I'll never own another Nokia phone as long as I live. The one I have now, is really pretty horrid. And get this, nowhere in the instruction manual, and I mean NOWHERE, does it tell you how to perform one of the most basic functions of ANY phone: How to adjust the volume. Really, if that is as much thought as they put into their products, I'll pass.

In case you are still trying to work the volume thing out, its the two buttons on the side of the device. Just like the iphone, which does not even come with a manual.
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Originally Posted by Frank Furter View Post

Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?

Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.

Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.

Anyone who thinks that way about porn is CREEPY!

I think you might want to go somewhere else, Frank, you're weirding us all out.
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Originally Posted by Frank Furter View Post

I have no problem with the human form. It's the EXPLICIT use of the human form. (Do you even know what porn is?) And I called you an idiot for bringing up porn and masturbation, not sex. Porn is no more relevant than slavery or drug addiction.

I love the way you try and associate sex with racism. nice, real parallels there!


Listen I have many immoral things I must get on with, nice talking to you.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

I love the way you try and associate sex with racism. nice, real parallels there!


Listen I have many immoral things I must get on with, nice talking to you.

Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.

To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.

God bless you.
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Originally Posted by Frank Furter View Post

Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.

To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.

God bless you.

Ever do your sexy wife from behind? How immoral! How'd you find the internet, anyway?
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Originally Posted by hotmarkb View Post

In case you are still trying to work the volume thing out, its the two buttons on the side of the device. Just like the iphone, which does not even come with a manual.

Maybe he can't read. Simply pathetic.
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Ever do your sexy wife from behind? How immoral! How'd you find the internet, anyway?

using technologies bought and paid for by immoral porn barons at a guess
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Originally Posted by Frank Furter View Post

Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.

To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.

God bless you.

Ah, the God angle. Surely you can add some anti-gay rhetoric as well.
post #58 of 130
I just don't like Nokia phones, I prefer Blackberries and now iphones.
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Originally Posted by Adjei View Post

I just don't like Nokia phones, I prefer Blackberries and now iphones.

Great post. Honest and to the point. Worthy of respect. I may disagree with you but I think this is the best post I have ever read by you.
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And three, multitouch is only used in a couple of apps. And as research has shown, most users don't even know it is there.

Jody, you should just stop posting about the iPhone.
It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and even your resources don't say what you're saying.

The fact that Google has an app on the iPhone that 30-55 year old people don't know how ONE multi touch gesture works doesn't mean most users don't know multi-touch is there.

And another thing, some apps are more important than others.
I defy you to show me a study that says most iPhone users don't know about multi-touch gesture uses on the web browser! (remember, it's not fair to limit the study to old people that have trouble with hi-tech devices)

Let's have a look at that Nokia device and see how you navigate over-sized webpages and understand what you're doing.

And as for the iPhone being all JPegs when it was shown, I'd remind you that Jobs was reported to be in peoples offices actually using the phone. Apple didn't run around propping it up in front of the media to stop the stock from sliding and trying to put a hold on customers fleeing the company like Nokia is doing. Apple was hiding it from view so competitors would keep flailing and guys like Balmer would keep saying stupid stuff that proved they have no idea what they, Motorola, Palm, Nokia and Rimm are talking about.

Spanked and put to bed, see ya Jody. \
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

using technologies bought and paid for by immoral porn barons at a guess

You've heard the saying " A man is known by the company he keeps. "

It is reasonably safe to say that pornographers, virus writers, identity phishers, software pirates and spammers are pretty much cut from the same cloth which is why their activities are often interlinked.

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Jody, you should just stop posting about the iPhone.
It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and even your resources don't say what you're saying.

The fact that Google has an app on the iPhone that 30-55 year old people don't know how ONE multi touch gesture works doesn't mean most users don't know multi-touch is there.

And another thing, some apps are more important than others.
I defy you to show me a study that says most iPhone users don't know about multi-touch gesture uses on the web browser! (remember, it's not fair to limit the study to old people that have trouble with hi-tech devices)

Let's have a look at that Nokia device and see how you navigate over-sized webpages and understand what you're doing.

And as for the iPhone being all JPegs when it was shown, I'd remind you that Jobs was reported to be in peoples offices actually using the phone. Apple didn't run around propping it up in front of the media to stop the stock from sliding and trying to put a hold on customers fleeing the company like Nokia is doing. Apple was hiding it from view so competitors would keep flailing and guys like Balmer would keep saying stupid stuff that proved they have no idea what they, Motorola, Palm, Nokia and Rimm are talking about.

Spanked and put to bed, see ya Jody. \

So should we all go throw our Nokia's and BB's, SE's, etc... away because you have such an enlightened view. You act as though everyone will simply concede the market to Apple. Hey other guys, might as well pack it in. The oracle has spoken. When Nokia sells about 30 million of these N97's and Apple is still trying to break 20 mil, then come back and show me how Nokia and the rest don't get it. By your "logic" it assumes that everyone wants an iPhone and no one was waiting for Nokia to produce this model. Why is it that Apple and AT&T have to use damn near strong arm tactics to make sales. Let's see Apple really compete but allowing an alternative browser, or AT&T allow tethering. Nokia will compete and do well with an Open Source OS, and unlock, unlimited applications that Apple may or may not accept or allow others to violate their own policies. With each passing day on this forum I truly understand why many people hate Apple. It is not the products so much as it is the fanboys behind the products.
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

You've heard the saying " A man is known by the company he keeps. "

It is reasonably safe to say that pornographers, virus writers, identity phishers, software pirates and spammers are pretty much cut from the same cloth which is why their activities are often interlinked.

And it's safe to just assume that is it! Trial by assumption! This thread is hilarious, I cant quite believe what I am reading. Naivety beyond belief, have you all been living in a box?

Just because I had involvement in the sex industry 11 years ago, does not make me an unscrupulous character then or now, I mean I may have murdered a few people but thats as far as it ever went, all in good spirits though.
post #64 of 130
Why do people keep saying this will be an iphone killer? It is no way advanced in terms of touch interface compared to the 5800. All it is is a 5800 with better specs. Still the same old Nokia.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

And it's safe to just assume that is it! Trial by assumption! This thread is hilarious, I cant quite believe what I am reading. Naivety beyond belief, have you all been living in a box?

Just because I had involvement in the sex industry 11 years ago, does not make me an unscrupulous character then or now, I mean I may have murdered a few people but thats as far as it ever went, all in good spirits though.

Dude. DOn't sweat it. People are people. No need to convince them one way or another. You are wasting your time in this forum with that. This is the cheerleading forum. You made a good point no matter how unpleasing it is to some but that is your right to make a point. I would drop it as this is the myopic side of the forum.
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Originally Posted by jodyfanning View Post

Three things. First, it was a proto, not the final software. If I remember correctly when the iPhone was first shown half the software was nothing but a JPEG!

Two, try using your capacitive touchscreen with gloves on... Oh, sorry you can't. And the iPhone has a minimum operating temperature of 0 degrees C. Total fail there then. Obviously designed only for use in California too.

And three, multitouch is only used in a couple of apps. And as research has shown, most users don't even know it is there.

is that why nokia is so big in your home country? because you can operate them in a freezer? i wonder if you can use a nokia keyboard with gloves on? 'research has shown'? the credentials for the author of that 'research' don't sound too promising: 'helping ... yahoo make compelling products...' huh? zooming in on a map or a photo is so intuitive on the iphone that i wonder if 'the people don't know it's there', use it without realising it...

i accept that the iphone is not for everyone, but it works for me and that is ultimately what matters in deciding where i put my money.
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So what does this mean, that we will never see a phone except the iphone with multi-touch functionality? I'm not talking about the gestures here but there must be other ways to benefit from it?

That would be crazy. It'd be like if the use of buttons were patented. It must be a misunderstanding. Of course the world is free to use on screen touch navigation using multiple simultaneous touch inputs...
post #68 of 130
Nice specs, Nokia always has that.

Resistive screen is just so last year.

The big problem is that the Nokia CEO himself said at the launch that the HIGHEST end Nokia's will not use Symbian but Linux maemo that runs on the N8x0 tablets. Who wants to buy a dead-end OS that can't run the highest end phones? Who wants to buy a phone that developers will be reluctant to code apps for, since it's a dead end?
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Resistive screen is just so last year.

Apparently the decision was made to appease the Asian market. Inputting Asian text is a lot easier on a resistive screen since it's more accurate.

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The big problem is that the Nokia CEO himself said at the launch that the HIGHEST end Nokia's will not use Symbian but Linux maemo that runs on the N8x0 tablets. Who wants to buy a dead-end OS that can't run the highest end phones? Who wants to buy a phone that developers will be reluctant to code apps for, since it's a dead end?

Oh no he didn't! One of the VPs (not the CEO) said that Linux will become a serious alternative to Symbian in high-end models. Source.

Nice attempt at FUD though.
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it's quite normal to have such presentations computer animated. here's another video that really shows the UI. http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=AD-elt8MN3I and it isn't bad at all.
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

Wrong. iPhone 1.0 did pretty much everything it does now except for App Store and stability fixes.

You may want to learn to read, he said when the iPhone was first shown, ie not released
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is that why nokia is so big in your home country? because you can operate them in a freezer?

Yes, Nokia is large in his home country, but you shouldn't confuse location with home country.
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Originally Posted by wbrasington View Post

Let's have a look at that Nokia device and see how you navigate over-sized webpages and understand what you're doing.

You use the navigation keys, like you have to navigate on the iPhone

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And as for the iPhone being all JPegs when it was shown, I'd remind you that Jobs was reported to be in peoples offices actually using the phone.

Wow, Jobs was reported to have been using an early version of one of his companies products, man, damn, well, how can anyone follow up from that. Wow, Apple is amazing, I bet a CEO has never tested a product before.

But that doesn't get around the fact that some parts of the iPhone feature set when Apple presented their hurried original showing, and some parts were just images.

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Apple didn't run around propping it up in front of the media to stop the stock from sliding and trying to put a hold on customers fleeing the company like Nokia is doing. Apple was hiding it from view so competitors would keep flailing and guys like Balmer would keep saying stupid stuff that proved they have no idea what they, Motorola, Palm, Nokia and Rimm are talking about.

Spanked and put to bed, see ya Jody. \

WTF are you on about, companies work in different ways, some present products they are working on, some don't. That was Nokia World, they showed products they are working on. What is the bet Apple shows something at MacWorld. Infact the way Apple leaves everything to the last minute annoys a lot of people, but I suppose they try to get the impluse buyer that way.

Remember (except for the iPod) Apple is only successful in their home market, what you are seeing in the US, doesn't reflect on the rest of the world.
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Originally Posted by jfanning View Post

You use the navigation keys, like you have to navigate on the iPhone



Wow, Jobs was reported to have been using an early version of one of his companies products, man, damn, well, how can anyone follow up from that. Wow, Apple is amazing, I bet a CEO has never tested a product before.

But that doesn't get around the fact that some parts of the iPhone feature set when Apple presented their hurried original showing, and some parts were just images.



WTF are you on about, companies work in different ways, some present products they are working on, some don't. That was Nokia World, they showed products they are working on. What is the bet Apple shows something at MacWorld. Infact the way Apple leaves everything to the last minute annoys a lot of people, but I suppose they try to get the impluse buyer that way.

Remember (except for the iPod) Apple is only successful in their home market, what you are seeing in the US, doesn't reflect on the rest of the work.

I would say this round goes to jfanning. Nice post. He will rev up the engines though and get the spin in full effect.
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You use the navigation keys, like you have to navigate on the iPhone

Navigation keys on the iPhone?
ok, so now we know YOU know nothing about the iPhone too. \
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Remember (except for the iPod) Apple is only successful in their home market, what you are seeing in the US, doesn't reflect on the rest of the work.

I think you mean the rest of the world, just guessing.

You may want to look again, you clearly don't know where Apple gets their revenue and earnings.

I think you need to turn that around.
Nokia is successful everywhere EXCEPT North America.
And that is changing now that Apple has gone worldwide with the iPhone.
Suck it up Nokia fanboys, Nokia is going the way of Motorola and Palm. Such has-beens....
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Originally Posted by wbrasington View Post

Navigation keys on the iPhone?
ok, so now we know YOU know nothing about the iPhone too. \

No, you just need to learn how to read.

You commented about the size of a Nokia screen and how to move around it, I said you need to use the navigation keys to move around the page, just like you need to move around a page on an iPhone, as it can't display the whole thing either.
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No, you just need to learn how to read.

You commented about the size of a Nokia screen and how to move around it, I said you need to use the navigation keys to move around the page, just like you need to move around a page on an iPhone, as it can't display the whole thing either.

You don't use navigation keys on the iPhone.
It doesn't have keys, that's the point.
You simply focus on the thing you're interested in and deal with it.
On the Nokia, I suppose there is an actual key to zoom in and out... right?
After all, I was talking about navigating around an oversized page.
So do you use hard keys to pan left and right with scroll bars, or do you actually have kardware keys to zoom in and out?

Give us a break....

Nokia's sales are declining for the first time in their history.
They're terrified and doing anything they can to stop people from fleeing.
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I think you mean the rest of the world, just guessing.

Yes, I will fix it

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You may want to look again, you clearly don't know where Apple gets their revenue and earnings.


Yes, they post it here and go on and on about is constantly. iPod, and iPhone sales make up the majority of their sales. A bit risky if you ask me.

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I think you need to turn that around.
Nokia is successful everywhere EXCEPT North America.

No, they are not successful in Japan either.

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And that is changing now that Apple has gone worldwide with the iPhone.

No it isn't. Apple sells a single model, that is very expensive (and don't start the crap about it being $199 in the US, that doesn't mean anything elsewhere). iPhone sales are very poor outside the US,

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Suck it up Nokia fanboys, Nokia is going the way of Motorola and Palm. Such has-beens....

As lots of people have said time and time again, start looking outside the US. I own a lot of Apple products, but their phone is not that much of a jump from what I have to make me want to change to it.
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Originally Posted by wbrasington View Post

You don't use navigation keys on the iPhone.
It doesn't have keys, that's the point.

I said you had to move the screen, you still have to click and drag it, the screen is still small on the iPhone.

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Originally Posted by wbrasington View Post

You simply focus on the thing you're interested in and deal with it.
On the Nokia, I suppose there is an actual key to zoom in and out... right?
After all, I was talking about navigating around an oversized page.
So do you use hard keys to pan left and right with scroll bars, or do you actually have kardware keys to zoom in and out?

I use the navigation keys on my phone to move around an oversized page. If you look at a Nokia phone they have a central button, with four buttons around them, the navigation keys, they provide the same functionality in all applications, they move around.

Just like you need to move around an oversized page on an iPhone, if doesn't magically move around based upon brain waves, you need to click the screen and drag it somewhere.

As for zooming, I don't know, i just navigate around the page, I don't zoom in and out.

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Originally Posted by wbrasington View Post

Nokia's sales are declining for the first time in their history.
They're terrified and doing anything they can to stop people from fleeing.

It is not the first decline in their sales, it has happened before, and will happen again.
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