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post #41 of 185
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Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post

If your choice is to make a smaller sale or lose a sale completely, which would you pick?

Exactly. Some people simply don't need everything that the regular Macbook offers, so they don't see the point in dropping $1300+ on it.

Netbooks are meant to be small, lightweight and inexpensive. Generally, netbook prices hover around $400-$500, with some even being as low as $300. People saying that Apple should release a netbook for $700-$800 have their heads in the sand. People don't want to spend that much on a netbook. If Apple can't make a well-built, well-featured netbook for under $600, then they've got a problem.

If Apple could make a netbook that matches (or exceeds, even) the Samsung NC10's features, then I'd gladly drop $600 on it, but no more.
post #42 of 185
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Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post

If your choice is to make a smaller sale or lose a sale completely, which would you pick?

Depends on if the sale is actually profitable. Make sure that customer service and R&D iare included in sale price and margin.

Netbooks are commodities and 3rd or 4th computers. Apple doesn't make commodities that are judged soley on price/performance.
post #43 of 185
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Originally Posted by Dorotea View Post

Netbooks are commodities and 3rd or 4th computers. Apple doesn't make commodities that are judged soley on price/performance.

You'd be surprised how many people are using a netbook as their primary (or only) computer. The fallacy that netbooks can't be used as a primary machine is quickly falling apart.
post #44 of 185
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Originally Posted by t0x View Post

You'd be surprised how many people are using a netbook as their primary (or only) computer. The fallacy that netbooks can't be used as a primary machine is quickly falling apart.

I set one up for a customer today.

I sure would like to meet the person that's using a Dell Mini 9 as their primary computer...
post #45 of 185
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
The market share number means nothing!

Just because someone arbitrarily decides netbooks are the same market as >1000$ notebooks doesn't mean it has any effect. Apple's "phone market share" will drop significantly, as well, if your supermarket writes "phone" on your cans of peas and carrots and starts delivering them with a long piece of string.

So no, netbooks are apparently NOT hurting Apples sales (up 24%!), everything else is mathematical trickery.
post #46 of 185
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Originally Posted by PXT View Post

Exactly.

Well... not necessarily.

Netbook is 2nd or even 3rd computer for a user, not main one... thus, OS choice is not that important as it should be for the main computer.

Well, for me at least. I have Vista desktop and notebook, and am considering netbook. At this stage OS is completely irrelevant as netbook will be used for limited tasks. I'm not going to edit photos on it. I'm not going to do home videos on it. I'm not going to play big games on it. However, I'm going to use it to dump and basic-organize photos when travelling or being outdoors, also to have access to the Internet, emails... eventually, to read an ebook or two. I can do those basics on ANY OS, so I'll be looking at price, comfort (keyboard, screen) and portability (battery) before my OS preference.

Now... true Apple is selling more laptops than they used to, but it is to be expected they would sell even more if they are present in netbook market. A lot of people who have iMac or Mac Pro or even MBP (and don't like carrying it around all the time) would consider netbook. A lot of Windows users who - like me - don't care about OS on netbook would consider Mac netbook if it fits the bill specs wise.

So it is not the question if Apple would sell more - the question is would profit justify investments in developing such device. I think it would.
post #47 of 185
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Originally Posted by Vituperable View Post

Apple will wait for a viable market to emerge first! Then, and only then, will they produce the finest netbook type device on the market. They will not outsell all other vendors in doing so, but they will make more money.

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post #48 of 185
I still think that a properly designed tablet (7-9" diag)with the ability to dock to a keyboard or home 'mothership' will dominate eventually.
And I think that that's where Apple is headed within the next 2 years.
Don't know whether that's prediction or projection.
post #49 of 185
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

There will be no video iPod. Nobody wants to watch videos on an iPod.

Apple will not enter the cell phone market.

Apple will not allow third party native iPhone applications. Web apps are really, really SWEET.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

LOL. You forgot- Apple will never release a headless Mac.
post #50 of 185
Windows users are already used to buying a POS cheap computer, no wonder they enjoy using a Netbook. Mac users enjoy quality. If Apple released a $300 Netbook, it won't be as nice as their other products.
post #51 of 185
Hey everyone...

I'm not going to even begin to guess what Apple's response to the growing Netbook market. I'd just like to share what my thoughts are on the market as a whole.

I am an avid Mac user. I have been using a Mac for almost 6 years now and have said that I would never buy another Windows computer. Fast forward to last night when I walked out of a well known electronics store with an HP Mini 10.2" Windows XP netbook. Now this is not my main computer, but it serves 3 main purposes that I was looking to find solutions for:

1.) My wife needed a computer to remote into her office. Because I depend on my Mac to complete freelance work, I was very hesitant to install any Windows-based remote desktop software on my Mac. I know it has limited risk, but I needed 0 risk.

2.) As a freelance web designer, I needed a computer to check websites on IE6. Since many of these Netbooks are Windows XP, I am able to easily check websites on IE6.

3.) I wanted something ultra-portable and inexpensive. I considered purchasing a new Macbook or even a Macbook air for our purposes. Obviously, that would have made the Windows solution a little more tricky (installing Parallels and Windows), but it would have worked. Also, the cost was prohibitive to purchasing another Macbook or Macbook Air. $399 vs. $1299-$1799.

I understand this computer is not going to serve as my main computer, but for my wife's basic computing needs, it is a perfect fit. We love the Mac operating system and would have purchased a Mac netbook if it was available. However, the decision came down to cost/size rather than Mac vs. Windows.

Just a little input from a Mac lover who purchased a Netbook.
post #52 of 185
I still see the current netbook devices as experiments at the very least and possibly fads. Long term viability comes down to apps and hardware size. Nothng I've seen so far on the market really competes well with iPhone.

That is for a device you can carry on your body constantly. I look at it this way I recently went to Vegas to relieve myself of excess cash. The iPhone of course came along. It functioned as a phone, an E-Mail device, a GPS, a web browser and handled other duties. It did that any where I was without effort on my part to have it available or fumble around for it, even when running around wearing shorts and a tee. Not many netbooks can do all that.

Now I'd be the first to admit that iPhone is not perfect and the small screen hurts it big time. That is why I think an ideal netbook response from Apple would be a device slighly larger that would fit well into a suit jacket or pants pocket. The utility in these device is portability something that the netbooks don't have. A 10 inch netbook isn't going to fit into my pocket. Worst yet that ten incher has fewer useful features than my iPhone.


Dave
post #53 of 185
iPhone and iTouch are netbooks. Apple has to change conventional notions that netbooks has to be smaller notebooks.
post #54 of 185
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Originally Posted by Dorotea View Post

Depends on if the sale is actually profitable. Make sure that customer service and R&D iare included in sale price and margin.

Netbooks are commodities and 3rd or 4th computers. Apple doesn't make commodities that are judged soley on price/performance.

iPod Shuffle.

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Originally Posted by madmaxmedia View Post

LOL. You forgot- Apple will never release a headless Mac.

You have to quote the full list:
  • Apple would never kill off Classic completely.
  • Apple will never open brick-and-mortar stores. It would be a disaster.
  • Apple will never make the eMac available to non-educational buyers.
  • Apple would never get into the music business. They can't legally do it.
  • Apple would never offer iPods for Windows users.
  • Apple would never discontinue the iPod Mini. It's way too popular.
  • Apple would never create their own browser. They need Internet Explorer on the Mac.
  • Apple would never offer iTunes for Windows.
  • Apple would never create a 24" iMac. It would be too top-heavy.
  • Apple would never create their own office suite. It would make Microsoft angry.
  • Apple would never offer a headless Mac.
  • Apple would never switch to Intel chips.
  • Apple will never get into the cell phone market. It's way too competitive.
  • Apple will never create another handheld platform. The Newton was a disaster.
  • Apple will never let people run Windows on a Mac.
  • Apple will never make Safari for Windows.
  • Apple will never let developers into the iPhone. It's a security problem.
  • Apple would never call something the Macbook Air. That's horrible sounding.
  • Apple will never release a 3G iPhone. It's too power-hungry.

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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post

If Apple released a $300 Netbook, it won't be as nice as their other products.

Who said Apple will release a $300 netbook? I don't see that in the article or the comments. Right now, if you want a functional (more than just Net access, music, video, games and frou-frou fun applications) portable Apple device, your cheapest choice is $1000. That's not chump change for most people. $500-600 would be much more affordable and could still offer Apple a comfortable profit margin.
post #55 of 185
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Originally Posted by cameronj View Post

I set one up for a customer today.

I sure would like to meet the person that's using a Dell Mini 9 as their primary computer...

Most people with a Mini 9 don't use it as a primary computer. I use an iMac at home as my primary computer. My Mini 9 (Running OS X 10.5.5, and wifi, webcam, and all other features work fine) is for just taking around everywhere. Allthough, if I needed it to, it could stand in as a primary as opposed to my iPhone.
post #56 of 185
What netbook does Sony make?
post #57 of 185
You guys just do not have a clue, honestly.

Do you realise how many people are buying netbooks?
Do you realise how many netbooks will be bought as Christmas presents this month?

MacBook sales have got to suffer big time with everyone going mad over a $400 netbook.

And I know plenty of people who are buying netbook's to use as their primary notebook, I know many business users who have ditched their normal notebook and use their netbook all the time now. With a docking station and external monitor/keyboard they do the job on the desktop.

Apple should have seen this coming, many of use did.
post #58 of 185
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post #59 of 185
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


Macs don't compete directly with any particular model of PC in that way. A consumer would first need to decide if they want a Mac or a PC. Then they decide which specific model of Mac or PC they want.

People buying netbooks have already decided they want a Windows notebook. The next choice is which Windows notebook.


Not in the least. I've been a Mac apologist since my Mac Plus and have two Macs at home and three at work. When it came time for a small, cheap laptop for non-critical use that had to be the price of a netbook and the size of a netbook for the third computer in the family...I got a netbook. A $400 Asus and everyone who uses it couldn't be happier. And my neighborhood (NYC) is filled with people who did the same.

In fact, I'm buying two more as presents tomorrow.

I practically never sat in front of a Windows computer in my entire life and never chose to for the OS. I needed a small $400 laptop that wouldn't be crap and I got it. If there was a new $550 Apple the size of the Asus I likely would have bought it.
post #60 of 185
One more computer to maintain? one more clamshell to wrestle with? Nope! All we need is a bigger iPod Touch with:

- a 7" or 9" screen - enough real estate to reasonably edit documents and really great for web, media, and games
- ability to run a couple of apps in the background
- cut and paste, etc.
- even better, a bundled and simplified iWork set of apps
- screen display output to a connected monitor or TV

with "cloud" file storage like MobileMe and streaming media from online portals, we don't need a big SSD like a laptop. just 16G is enough. 32G is luxury.

one great accomplishment of the iPhone/Touch is that their simplified OS X system software is so so much easier for a user to set up and maintain than a standard computer, and that the third-party focused-purpose apps for it are so much simpler and easier to buy, set up, and update than standard computer applications.

that's why a bigger Touch would immediately capture half the netbook market. if Jobs would just stop being so damn stubborn and give us the chance.

and yes, i'd pay $499 for one.
post #61 of 185
The price and size of 'netbooks' make them almost irresistible, despite OS grumbles. Most come in Linux versions, if you feel above the Win 'rabble'. But, they just work for most laptop usage, are cheap, fit in a tiny bag, can be used in 'coach', can be made secure (TrueCrypt).

Apple will likely come-out with 'high-end' netbook ala Sony TT (Oh, maybe it's the Air?) to satisfy the need for exclusivity. The MSI Wind (modded to OSX) w/ LED backlit etc. is sure appealing at $420.
post #62 of 185
Got my Wind for $349. Runs OS X 10.5.5 just fine. No netbook from Apple. Period. Not gonna happen.
post #63 of 185
What I found really funny was somebody insisting in another thread that a used 12" Powerbook G4 makes a fine netbook. Right. A 4.6 pound machine is just as attractive as one that weighs half that. Running a processor that's four or five generations behind and won't even run some current Intel-only Mac software. Graphics chip so slow that it can't even play back H.264 movies. That maxes out at only 1.1GB of RAM instead of 2. With only USB 1.1 ports instead of 2.0. An LCD screen up to seven years old, faded and far dimmer than current screens even when new. That can't dual-boot and can run Windows only in the dog-slow VirtualPC rather than Parallels or VMWare. With only 802.11b instead of 802.11g or n. No card reader or webcam. A battery pack that may have only a hundred charge cycles left. And you can have all this pre-owned goodness for only the same price (or even more) as a brand, spanking new netbook complete with warranty. Yeah, I'm sure people will be lining up with wallets in hand for those.
post #64 of 185
I cannot see this being a common trend. If you have been using Macs for all of these years you have no Windows software. I cannot speak for your financial situation. But most people are not going to buy software for both Mac and PC.

I live in Fort Green in Brooklyn. I cannot speak for the hundreds of thousands of other people living in my neighborhood. But when I go to the neighborhood coffee shop. I mostly see MacBooks and full Windows notebooks. I see netbooks here and there, far more people own iPhones and Blackberry for mobile internet and email.

At $400 they are practically an impulse buy in computer terms. I think the media are really trying to hype netbooks but it still remains to be seen if they last in the long run.


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Originally Posted by jlandd View Post

Not in the least. I've been a Mac apologist since my Mac Plus and have two Macs at home and three at work. When it came time for a small, cheap laptop for non-critical use that had to be the price of a netbook and the size of a netbook for the third computer in the family...I got a netbook. A $400 Asus and everyone who uses it couldn't be happier. And my neighborhood (NYC) is filled with people who did the same.

In fact, I'm buying two more as presents tomorrow.

I practically never sat in front of a Windows computer in my entire life and never chose to for the OS. I needed a small $400 laptop that wouldn't be crap and I got it. If there was a new $550 Apple the size of the Asus I likely would have bought it.
post #65 of 185
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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post

Windows users are already used to buying a POS cheap computer, no wonder they enjoy using a Netbook. Mac users enjoy quality. If Apple released a $300 Netbook, it won't be as nice as their other products.

Mate, that is so shallow...
post #66 of 185
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Originally Posted by kim kap sol View Post

Of course...to anyone with low standards, an Eee 901 running a crippled Mac OS X is perfectly fine.

Anything can be perfectly fine so long as one's standard is lowered sufficiently. To a lot of people, a 200 dollar PC running Windows is fantastic.

This is the same crap statement I hear from Macheads all the time. (I own an iPhone, FWIW). I get so tired of hearing this, especially when it comes to running Windows. I haven't used Vista yet, but know that XP is an excellent product. If one really only needs to surf the net and check email, it really doesn't matter what operating system they have installed. And no, OS X doesn't surf the net any better than XP or Vista.
post #67 of 185
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

One more computer to maintain? one more clamshell to wrestle with? Nope! All we need is a bigger iPod Touch with:

- a 7" or 9" screen - enough real estate to reasonably edit documents and really great for web, media, and games
- ability to run a couple of apps in the background
- cut and paste, etc.
- even better, a bundled and simplified iWork set of apps
- screen display output to a connected monitor or TV

with "cloud" file storage like MobileMe and streaming media from online portals, we don't need a big SSD like a laptop. just 16G is enough. 32G is luxury.

one great accomplishment of the iPhone/Touch is that their simplified OS X system software is so so much easier for a user to set up and maintain than a standard computer, and that the third-party focused-purpose apps for it are so much simpler and easier to buy, set up, and update than standard computer applications.

that's why a bigger Touch would immediately capture half the netbook market. if Jobs would just stop being so damn stubborn and give us the chance.

and yes, i'd pay $499 for one.

That would pretty much be tablet PC form. Tablets lost miserably in PC segment, can't see them having big success in Mac World.

For fully functional computer (which netbooks are, though a bit on the slower side), you simply need proper keyboard - as good as you can get. Fingering screen simply can not replace mechanical keyboard - even a small, low quality one (not that most netbooks have bad kbd at all). And having 9" screen permanently exposed on highly portable device? How long would it survive..?

I don't know how good or bad OS in iPhone is... but can you plug in printer, external HDD, share data over network, connect digital camera and copy images from it, plug wired network at all..? Can you install normal, full featured apps? Once you start adding functionality and compatibility to iPhone OS, you end up with having (almost) fully featured OS.
post #68 of 185
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

I cannot see this being a common trend. If you have been using Macs for all of these years you have no Windows software. I cannot speak for your financial situation. But most people are not going to buy software for both Mac and PC.

I live in Fort Green in Brooklyn. I cannot speak for the hundreds of thousands of other people living in my neighborhood. But when I go to the neighborhood coffee shop. I mostly see MacBooks and full Windows notebooks. I see netbooks here and there, far more people own iPhones and Blackberry for mobile internet and email.

At $400 they are practically an impulse buy in computer terms. I think the media are really trying to hype netbooks but it still remains to be seen if they last in the long run.

You are forgetting netbooks are selling only for a year. While they sell extremely well, number of already owned notebooks is huge. Give netbooks another year of current sales and you'll see change easily.

Now consider this: most manufacturers still make and sell entry-level Celeron based notebooks with 1GB of RAM and 80+ GB drives. Obviously, they still sell and they do the job for casual users - people who will email and browse Internet, maybe copy photos from P&S camera... but not much more than that. Netbooks hardware is comparable performance wise - you sacrifice bigger screen and built-in optical disk for portability and better battery performance. It is fair trade, from my point of view.
post #69 of 185
Why don't Apple make a netbook type enclosing for the iPhone/Touch. Or would this be a terrible, terrible idea?
post #70 of 185
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

One more computer to maintain? one more clamshell to wrestle with? Nope! All we need is a bigger iPod Touch with:

- a 7" or 9" screen - enough real estate to reasonably edit documents and really great for web, media, and games
- ability to run a couple of apps in the background
- cut and paste, etc.
- even better, a bundled and simplified iWork set of apps
- screen display output to a connected monitor or TV

with "cloud" file storage like MobileMe and streaming media from online portals, we don't need a big SSD like a laptop. just 16G is enough. 32G is luxury.

one great accomplishment of the iPhone/Touch is that their simplified OS X system software is so so much easier for a user to set up and maintain than a standard computer, and that the third-party focused-purpose apps for it are so much simpler and easier to buy, set up, and update than standard computer applications.

that's why a bigger Touch would immediately capture half the netbook market. if Jobs would just stop being so damn stubborn and give us the chance.

and yes, i'd pay $499 for one.

Spot on - the "apple needs to do a tablet right" story and the "apple needs to be in the netbook" story are the same. Trying to cheapen a macbook makes it seem hard to get the costs down - grow an iPod touch and it's easy to see how they'll make something low cost...

... and we haven't seen very adventurous multi-touch yet!.. and that's surely wht people will pay a bit more. I guess it would need a new SDK and iTunes app store too. I bet they'll show it in Jan but sell it mid year. ?
post #71 of 185
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Originally Posted by jameshopkins View Post

Why don't Apple make a netbook type enclosing for the iPhone/Touch. Or would this be a terrible, terrible idea?

they could certainly do a low end 'iPad' that only has wifi and tethers to iPhone - starts at [nice low price] - 8gig maybe .... and a high end 3g number with more memory...
post #72 of 185
... if the new product is expected to bring in more than than old one. Remember the iPod mini that fell victim to the iPod nano?

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Originally Posted by wwrightstufff View Post

... Apple evaluates its current products when bringing a new product to the market. If the new product will take sales from another apple will not bring that product to market.
post #73 of 185
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Originally Posted by zunx View Post

The perfect NetBook (first picture) with full Mac OS X 10.5.5 inside, VGA-out port for full-blown presentations from NATIVE Keynote and PowerPoint files, Ethernet port and Firewire ports to transfer large files, audio, video and repairs via Target Disk Mode. Touch screen.

Next Apple moves will be Books and Games
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09...ooks-and-games

Like the OQO, but with Mac inside:

OQO model 02
OQO model e2
http://www.oqo.com

We need thousands for our University.

I was considering buying one of those things, but after doing some reading it dawned on me, this devise is not very practical.
I found a OQO2 1.6 GHz with 120GB HD on eBay in perfect condition with a Buy It Now price of only $900!! After I read the sellers comment, I was convinced that this device is really only a gadget and nothing more. The seller stated and I quote "I bought this about a year ago and used it frequently until I got my I-Phone 3G. I don't use the OQO frequently enough now to justify it."

Don't believe me? Check this out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OQO-Model-02-1-6...QQcmdZViewItem
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post #74 of 185
They just mash together the cheapest possible components, without any innovation. Apple will NEVER do that! I think any thought along the lines of a Maxi-iPod Touch is much more reasonable.

BTW, the margins you get out of Netbooks this way are razor-thin! I think this statistic is by counting units, so making 15$ on a 300$-netbook weighs the same as making 400$ off a 2000$ MacBook Pro. Go figure ...
post #75 of 185
Apple will have to release some sort of "NetBook" at MacWorld next month or Wall Street in all their wisdom will cry further tales of "Apple is t3h D00med... All your iPhone base are belong to PC netbook".

That said, elevator pictures, mockups, website fakes and china-cases of the new Apple Tablet/Mac Touch/'NetBook' will make a very interesting few weeks after Christmas.

Updated "Teh Sexay" iMac 20", 24"
Unibody 17" MacBook Pro
Apple HDTV 30 and 42" with AppleTV integrated ()

and... ONE MORE THING.
BOOM!

Oh the insanity has already started...
post #76 of 185
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Originally Posted by financegozu View Post

They just mash together the cheapest possible components, without any innovation. Apple will NEVER do that! I think any thought along the lines of a Maxi-iPod Touch is much more reasonable.

BTW, the margins you get out of Netbooks this way are razor-thin! I think this statistic is by counting units, so making 15$ on a 300$-netbook weighs the same as making 400$ off a 2000$ MacBook Pro. Go figure ...

The key, key, key thing for Apple here is, in lieu of such economic madness, is that if the Apple "NetBook" is going to have 3G, which it should, Apple will very likely leverage all their iPhone 3G sales channels.

Think about it.

Apple will be pushing hard to continue to grow the Mac platform, etc etc. All good, though the numbers will never live up to the analysts' expectations.

However, the iPod line is now "cannon fodder".

Now let's look at the iPhone 3G.

Apple's leverage of global iPhone 3G sales, contracts, and very expanded sales channels through all the telco providers, make this the best way of introducing the NetBook.

So you've got iPhone 3G as it is, then the upsell (for example, through AT&T USA) is ---
BOOM! Mac Touch 3G.

Apple continues to push the higher-margin Mac desktop and portable platform through 2009, while having the "backup" of having all their telco partners share the risk of the iPhone 3G line and the Mac Touch 3G/NetBook line.

I mean, next month, Apple slips an ultra-sexy "netbook"-thingy into the market, it will be iPhone 3G madness all over again.

Throw gaming into the mix, I mean, right now, Steve is
*conceptually surfing the zone between the MacBook Air and the iPhone 3G and he is loving it*

Get ready for the bright spot in January 2009 while the rest of the world screams doom and gloom.

Steve turns GLOOM, into BOOM!

(Yeah, I don't know why I never made it to becoming a journalist or hack writer of some sort...)
post #77 of 185
Obama-Jobs . Your choice for election 2012 .

[TV Reporter]
"The man the Democrats claim turned gloom into 'boom', is now the front-runner for Vice President..."
post #78 of 185
Well, the first big problem with the netbooks is that most, AFAIK, cannot be used in a simple, landscape, touch/tablet mode. Apple does this well, and it would smoke all these mini wannabes.

Next, imagine a netbook that is a Mac... just like a book, with two touchscreens on the inner side... NO PHYSICAL KEYBOARD SO YOU MAXIMISE THE DUAL-SCREEN space--It's a netbook, an e-Book, a touchscreen, a gaming-thing, a Mac, an Ultra NintendoDS-esque thing.

Oh boy...

The EDU and BIZ (sales, etc) market will go bananas over this.

I've gotta get to doing a mockup of my vision... Feeling insanely inspired right now. Time to take my meds.

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Originally Posted by zunx View Post

The perfect NetBook (first picture) with full Mac OS X 10.5.5 inside, VGA-out port for full-blown presentations from NATIVE Keynote and PowerPoint files, Ethernet port and Firewire ports to transfer large files, audio, video and repairs via Target Disk Mode. Touch screen.

Next Apple moves will be Books and Games…
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09...ooks-and-games

Like the OQO, but with Mac inside:

OQO model 02
OQO model e2
http://www.oqo.com

We need thousands for our University.
post #79 of 185
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Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post

How would sales of netbooks loaded with XP hurt MS?

The Top 13 netbooks are loaded with XP.

Because usually those netbooks have a HDD ??

I reckon AIs interest in these posts is so they can post the usual "as we noted back in..." bollocks that will likely also mention the geographical location of Apples HQ in California ?? anyone agree?


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Been looking into these over the last few days, I couldn't bring myself to run XP so it was a matter of assessing which flavour of Linux was best.. THEN IT DAWNED ON ME!

despite not being what you would call a Hacker, I surmised it would be a viable option to follow some instructions and install OSX. BOOM! so to speak.

and IF I got it working, I could buy a Leopard disc.

but its xmas, and then Jan and Macworld, to do I wait?? dunno, will be checking my bank today to see whats possible! they are so cheap as to be practically an impulse buy!

Would REALLY like to see where Apple would go with the concept.

1200 x 900 display? (res independence?)
9 or 10" (anything bigger is silly)
all SSD 32GB
induction charging ??

the old (cheap) trackpads

kinda have to be plastic to build to cost (which might stop them)

or will they just lower the price of the white macbook by $100 and everyone will think "BOOO!"
I don't see how an anti M$ stance can be seen as a bad thing on an Apple forum I really can't!

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I don't see how an anti M$ stance can be seen as a bad thing on an Apple forum I really can't!

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post #80 of 185
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Originally Posted by Buck View Post

I wonder if AI is subtly preparing us for a major netbook launch?
I mean, two news bits about netbooks in a week...

You may be on to something. My bet is when SJ does enter this market Apple's offering will be as radically different from PC note books or pads as the iPhone was from the then so called smart phones. It will be dare I say it ... a paradigm shift.
From Apple ][ - to new Mac Pro I've used them all.
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From Apple ][ - to new Mac Pro I've used them all.
Long on AAPL so biased
Google Motto "You're not the customer. You're the product."
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