Gadget blog juices fears over Steve Jobs' health - Page 2

Publishing rumors like these are the reasons that blogs will never be taken seriously as journalism. Gizmodo is only harming legitimate bloggers in its quest for more clicks and viewers.

How bad does the economy have to get before Gizmodo publishes a "rumor" that Jobs is dead just to get a few more page views?

The people running that joint should be ashamed of themselves.

If you play the latest 'Get a Mac' ad backwards, it says "Steve is Dead". Honest! (Hey, would I lie to you???)

I worked at a Whole Foods Mkt. for a few years in the late 80's/early 90's. There is a certain stereotypical vegan health nut; they can be both thin and a bit crazy. But this is a stereotype, and it's no more true that all vegans are thin and/or crazy than it is that all carnivores are gun-toting rednecks.

Also, it's not clear that the contributors to this thread know the difference between vegetarian and vegan. Vegetarians avoid animal flesh, vegans avoid all animal products, even milk and eggs. True vegans are pretty rare. Nonetheless, it's entirely possible to be healthy on either diet. And weight is a completely independent issue. You don't have to be a carnivore to consume carbs and fat. I've known more than a few vegetarians with a sweet tooth. And take a look at the fat content on soy products-they're not diet items.

What exactly is 'out of control' with a citizen emailing a complaint to a public official?

And, who the heck are you to pronounce judgment on this, anyway?

In stating something like that, you must have a price prediction in mind. So, if you're for real, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and buy puts on AAPL?

And, tell us how it all panned out at maturity?

Unfortunately, even with the Reality Distortion Field turned up to 11, anybody is going to look gaunt and emaciated next to Phil Schiller.

I for one welcome the era of morbidly obeese keynote speakers.

Seriously, Steve is healthier than 90% of the fat cat CEOs in America today.
Steve is seen everyday in the cafeteria.
If there was a problem, they wouldn't be able to hide it.
We wouldn't be hearing a single anonymous tipster to a gadget site.
When a real journalist gets multiple sources then it's time to worry.

It's interesting that no one has commented on this post -- and also the fact that Apple Insider is parroting this story despite the fact that you guys are crying for Gizmodo's head.

I find the comments today quite weird.
1) Stock market is time invested. Had I purchased Apple Stock when I had the chance I would have made significant return on investment even at today's current price.

2) Many complaints of Jobs in the past seem to not be the case as much now. A) He is showing much more gratitude to those working at Apple. B) He has been sharing the stage more with others who work at apple. I can remember years ago complaining about "What will happen to Apple after Jobs?" or "Jobs is an egotistical jerk." So, Jobs has been the in the process over the last couple of years or reproducing himself.

3) If I'm not mistaken, Jobs doesn't do everything at Apple. So, someone else has to be designing, writing code, testing, coming up with ideas, etc. Apple is not just one man.

4) Timing of new products is important. And nearing or at the bottom of an economic slowdown may not be the best idea to launch a new product that people may not buy, or if they do, will not be in numbers that would make the product a "success." Further, having new products launched just before or at the beginning of major shopping seasons would seem to make more sense.

5) How often has Apple been complained about for showing a new whatever in January, set a target date, missed it, and then ticked everyone off because of the delay? Apple controlling their product launch cycles makes way more sense.

6) Apple has cancelled appearances before, so this is nothing new.

I could be wrong on all this, and I think mostly the comments on AppleInsider are good. But this thread seems way out in left field. Even if his health may be the reason, there seem to be far more reasons that make Apples move a smart move regardless of Jobs health.

Funny how it is in America that we always like to knock down the top dog.

Looks like the real deal to me


Looks like Steve is going to step down later this spring.

Gizmodo is a joke.

A few hedge funds proly gave them some nice kick-backs for posting the story...at the most random time ever.

also jizmodo is owned by the big corporates.....they proly needed to drive the traffic up..to keep their endless supply of web searchers , i mean bloggers, i mean journalists.

Yes, that's what it's going to take to get me back into the market during this economy -- an anonymous challenge from some internet nerd.

Exactly. I think that for a few minutes maybe a couple of hours Apple's stock will go down (maybe that is a buying opportunity) and then the market will realize that Apple is fine without Steve and everything will be fine.

Steve Jobs is going to be a hard act to follow but imagine if you are the man who drove Apple to a greater height after Steve? You will walk on water!!!!!!

Arvi

Really? Then what is AI receiving for covering it? I've noticed that other Apple-oriented sites haven't touched the story yet.

"Proly"?

thought the same..... proly...you know probably....

macrumors is the best apple rumors site out there...run by arnold kim...and he knows better to touch the crap rumor.

Pernicious bloody speculation

Dude they keep saying he's fine, what the heck do you want them to say, that he's not, or I guess they are lying, why the heck should the man have to give the details of his health to the whole word, I feel sorry for the dude, this must be traumatizing for him.

Look at this one, why shouldn't he email it, some of your are utterly ridicilous, I doubt if it was your health that people were "gossiping" about on the internet, you sure as heck wouldn't like it.

no he's a pescatorian, eats fish but not meat.

So when is he supposed to show up, is he supposed to give a live a video conference every week showing that he's a live, wasn't he at the notebook event and their earnings report, I guess the guy should be walking the mall so that everybody know he's fine.

What a dumb azz coment, why don't you come out and give your private health information out in public.

history...


Steve founds Apple = Apple does well

Steve leaves Apple = Apple does bad

Steve comes back = Apple does good

Steve leaves again = ?????


that is why there is worry about his health.



I think Apple's lack of 'outright dismissal' of this rumour speaks volumnes, they are still pushing the same line from when the first MW announcement was made.

If SJ is well then all he has to do is appear at a press conference and say he's fine. He's the CEO FFS!! its his job to do that...protect the stock.

becuase he doesn't have to do it..legally..like some people do!


I also think Giz must be happy with their source or they wouldn't print it. Getting this... badly wrong could finish them.

Why don't you take your blinders off -- his point still stands. You people are jumping all down Gizmodo's throat for posting this "rumor", but I don't see any backlash against Apple Insider for propagating the "rumor". Where are the letters to the SEC about Apple Insider spreading "rumors".

That being said, I agree with him. Apple Insider posts rumors about Apple and Apple-related topics ALL OF THE DAMN TIME. And they have on more than one occasion posted about Steve Jobs's health be it substantiated or not. So now that Gizmodo does a big story on it, people go ape s**t and start huffing and puffing.

Get over yourselves, IT'S JUST A COMPANY!!! Steve Jobs isn't your friend. Apple isn't your friend. You folks take this stuff way too personally.

The last time I remember this much rampant speculation about someone's health was when rock fans were wondering about the health rumors of Freddie Mercury.

Oh wait, maybe that's a bad example.

There's got to have been someone out there who's seen the guy in the past couple months. We get pictures of Obama walking around without a shirt, can't the paparazzi back of Britney and get some Steve shots instead?

A hit piece written by hack lacking ability and credibility.

So are the Apple haters, case in point.


Weren't you one of those that said that Apple's profits and sales volume were going to decline in this recession? And you're continuing this kind of talk despite the fact that they've both consistently grown by leaps and bounds in the last four quarters being recession? You're now also calling it a depression, it's not yet and no one really knows that's going to happen, it's all either fears or fear mongering.

I thought heard that Steve fired him. Was real nasty about it, too.

Who is publicly compelled to report their health?

A CEO of a listed company if he/she believes it materially affects them doing their job.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/bu...QnUY3A9yNO0GsQ



“The question surrounding any kind of corporate disclosure always is: Is it material?” said Larry S. Gondelman, a lawyer with Powers Pyles Sutter & Verville. “And there is no bright line test in determining materiality.” A spokesman for the Securities and Exchange Commission said that the law defined materiality as information that “the reasonable investor needs to know in order to make an informed decision about his investment.”



bearing in mind the enormous credit Jobs is given for Apple's recent upsurge, I think it would be disingenious to suggest that his health is immaterial.

Apple certainly needs someone with vision steering the boat, to keep it ahead of the pack and to keep forcing the company to innovate rather than imitate, but you are right - Apple has a ton of corporate momentum moving in the right direction.

You probably think people are arbitrarily associating this rumor with Apple's general stock price. Did you see this today?



The spike down is from the rumor. That spike cost options and day traders massive amounts of money, and made other people a lot of money. If gizmodo is found to have manipulated the market for gain, those people will go to prison. This is a big deal.

Now who's the moron? Go learn a few things about the stock market before you post.

given whats happened this year to all stock markets you could argue that anyone with ANY involvement in the stock market is a moron.

Betting with fraudsters will never be successful.

For every seller, there's a buyer. So, yes, "anyone" is still holding Apple stock.

Of course AppleInsider is also to blame for spreading this bullshit rumor beyond Gizmodo.

I lost money this year with other people, but I'm still way richer than any of my friends and coworkers who have been too scared in the past decade to play the game. The only moron is someone who doesn't invest or save their cash, because it gets slaughtered against inflation without them even knowing it.

You are correct. I'd do the responsible thing for the company and the stock holders and hold a press conference to put the subject to rest.

Apple nor Steve Jobs has done the responsible thing and are acting irresponsible by not doing so.

Steve Jobs will get well when the Hedgefunds and Short Sellers cover and go long on Apple. At that time, I'm sure they will announce a complete cure to pump the stock.

They've ground Apple stock down for a year with the help of writers and analysts that love reporting a problem whether it's real or not! It's all BuLL!

Heh heh. I guess you need to google the phrase 'put options.'

And, geniuses like you only prove the old dictum that talk - esp. anonymous talk in internet forums like these - is cheap.

Then so will AppleInsider for continuing to spread the rumor.

They are simply quoting an unsubstantiated rumor. That isn't illegal or this site would have been shut down years ago.

Apple needs to do the right thing and have Steve Jobs hold a press conference.
It's either Steve's arrogance or his health that are stopping this.

Either way it's Apple's responsibility to address the issue.

LA Times is now running the story based on Gizmodo's piece:


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/tech...jobs-illn.html

And The Street:


http://www.thestreet.com/story/10455...cm_ven=GOOGLEN