Originally Posted by Ireland
Ok then, perhaps he's not seen me and a few others here go on about an Apple television lately. This product would be welcomed by me!
Although I don't think it will happen, I have recently felt there needs to be a product like how you've described before. Trying to buy a media player for my grandparents is a bit of a nightmare because they don't know how to work the remotes.
I wanted a single unit that gave a nice picture with freeview, a PVR (80GB is fine; 16-32GB Flash might have done actually if it used mpeg4) and a DVD player. You do get them but they are very hard to find and not very good models.
One problem is cost. I found that an AIO device was actually more expensive than 3 separate parts and the individual parts were higher quality.
If Apple made one, it may be simple but it likely wouldn't hit the £200 price point I managed to get the 3 devices for. Sure, they will be a little more complex to work but not that much.
The TV is basically an on/off affair and the remote isn't needed. The freeview box does most of the work and uses the EPG to record shows (choose from the guide, hit record). Then the DVD player is an on/off affair too with basic navigation.
itunes content is meaningless because my grandparents don't have internet and they only like what's on TV anyway. The pay per download model wouldn't go down well - itunes really needs a subscription model.
Given that Apple don't do the whole PVR thing, I don't see them being the ones to fill this space.
The screen would have to be 26" minimum (£300), with the ATV components (£195) + twin freeview tuner (£40) = approx £499 price point.
Like I say, that's just out of the question when I paid £200. For some people, it is worth it but most people don't like tying their really expensive TV to their low cost TV decoders and recorders.
The low end ATV needs a tuner with EPG and PVR ability for half the price it's at now. Even then, you still need a separate box for playing DVDs.