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post #41 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

You know tape is the dumbest way to store/share/distribute movies right?

Perhaps not the best way to share/distribute it, but if you have a lot of raw footage, it is one of the better ways to store it. Tape will last longer and hold more than CD/DVDs. You could also argue that tape is less likely to suffer total failure. If a hard drive fails, you could lose everything on that hard drive. If there is an error on the tape, you might lose a few seconds of footage, but you can still recover the rest of your footage.
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post #42 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:09pm
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iLife requires an Intel processor. Anyone else think that Snow Leopard will support PPC? This looks like it will be with almost 100% certainty that it will not.

No, I don't believe you're correct. iLife requires OSX Leopard, not an Intel processor.

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post #43 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:11pm
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You know tape is the dumbest way to store/share/distribute movies right?

Maybe he's writing back to Beta or 1" tape?

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post #44 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:23pm
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iLife requires an Intel processor. Anyone else think that Snow Leopard will support PPC? This looks like it will be with almost 100% certainty that it will not.

You need to read the article next time. No, Snow Leopard will not support a 5 year old PPC processor.
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post #45 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:26pm
Based on the system requirements, it sounds like the new iLife will run dog slow on single processor G5 and G4 Macs. iLife 08 is already slow on my iMac G5, and painfully slow on my older iMac G4 (especially iPhoto). Still love iMovie HD 6, and have no intention of using the replacement iMovie.
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post #46 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:35pm
I'm not sure how many people care to do this but it is a feature I've been waiting for. Can iPhoto '09 do this? I didn't find a reference to this on the website but I only did a quick look through.

For anyone wondering the reason I would like to do this is because I manage a few websites where I allow users to download pictures from my gallery. I have over 20000 pictures and when users add pictures to their cart to download all at once it does not preserve the album structure. So if all the pictures are named img7098.jpg etc. they won't know what the picture is of unless they open the file.

Currently, I use iPhoto '08 to manage my library of pictures. I import the pictures from the camera using image capture and then delete the bad ones and use a batch renamer to give the pictures a descriptive filename, for example naiaregionalxc2008.jpg. And then import the renamed files into iPhoto. While I don't mind doing this, it just takes extra time and wife refuses to use this process - so I got back later and change the names of the albums she imports and yes I guess I am a bit OCD about the iPhoto library.

If anyone reading this has a better workflow - I'd like to hear about it. I've tried Aperture but my wife won't use it - so it doesn't really solve my issue.

I would hand over $79 in a heartbeat if iPhoto '09 does this.

Kevin
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post #47 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by kjgienapp View Post

I'm not sure how many people care to do this but it is a feature I've been waiting for. Can iPhoto '09 do this? I didn't find a reference to this on the website but I only did a quick look through.

For anyone wondering the reason I would like to do this is because I manage a few websites where I allow users to download pictures from my gallery. I have over 20000 pictures and when users add pictures to their cart to download all at once it does not preserve the album structure. So if all the pictures are named img7098.jpg etc. they won't know what the picture is of unless they open the file.

Currently, I use iPhoto '08 to manage my library of pictures. I import the pictures from the camera using image capture and then delete the bad ones and use a batch renamer to give the pictures a descriptive filename, for example naiaregionalxc2008.jpg. And then import the renamed files into iPhoto. While I don't mind doing this, it just takes extra time and wife refuses to use this process - so I got back later and change the names of the albums she imports and yes I guess I am a bit OCD about the iPhoto library.

If anyone reading this has a better workflow - I'd like to hear about it. I've tried Aperture but my wife won't use it - so it doesn't really solve my issue.

I would hand over $79 in a heartbeat if iPhoto '09 does this.

Kevin

If you have to manage 20K images, sounds like you might want to look into Aperture or Lightroom.

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post #48 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

Both the iWeb and iDVD icons were in Phil's dock... I am assuming small updates to both apps.

Yep, both are updated but didn't get demoed. The demoed apps also have additional features that they didn't show.

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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

When exactly did Steve say this? Is this a press release? Looks like someone forgot to change it to Phil Schiller.

Press release.

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Originally Posted by voodooru View Post

"aging fleet" -- LOL!!

I guess you're ignorant of how long it has been since machines like the Mini and Mac Pro have been updated.

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You need to read the article next time. No, Snow Leopard will not support a 5 year old PPC processor.

Who said anything about a five year old processor? There are PPC machines that are newer than that. The question is whether 10.6 will run on PPC, and I don't believe that has been answered definitilvely, people are just speculating.
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post #49 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:46pm
Can you do searches for body parts other than "faces"?
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post #50 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:48pm
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Can you do searches for other body parts besides "faces"?

That's why God invented the Internets.

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post #51 of 93
1/6/09 at 1:58pm
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That's why God invented the Internets.

I mean- who cares about the face?
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post #52 of 93
1/6/09 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

If you have to manage 20K images, sounds like you might want to look into Aperture or Lightroom.

I've tried it but my wife won't use it, so I'd have to got back and fix her pictures still. I don't do much editing, if any. It has been a while since I tried Aperture so maybe I'll give it another try. But can Aperture change filenames?
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post #53 of 93
1/6/09 at 2:26pm
Seems like some nice updates, both to iLife and iWork. I think I'll hold out and see if they update the Mac Box Set to Snow Leopard before buying though - I want all three of those this year, so I might as well see if I can get them at the best possible price.

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post #54 of 93
1/6/09 at 2:49pm
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I've tried it but my wife won't use it, so I'd have to got back and fix her pictures still. I don't do much editing, if any. It has been a while since I tried Aperture so maybe I'll give it another try. But can Aperture change filenames?

I'm no expert, but I believe you can batch rename files.

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post #55 of 93
1/6/09 at 2:50pm
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Seems like some nice updates, both to iLife and iWork. I think I'll hold out and see if they update the Mac Box Set to Snow Leopard before buying though - I want all three of those this year, so I might as well see if I can get them at the best possible price.

My impression is that Snow Leopard may not be coming out for some time. I'm getting the current Box Set offering.

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post #56 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:08pm
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I've tried it but my wife won't use it, so I'd have to got back and fix her pictures still. I don't do much editing, if any. It has been a while since I tried Aperture so maybe I'll give it another try. But can Aperture change filenames?

Yes, Aperture can rename files with sequence numbers during import, or as a batch after import. However, there are also tools that can do this at the finder level (this can also be done easily with Unix shell scripts or AppleScript if you know how). You can then import into iPhoto.
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post #57 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:26pm
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Yes, Aperture can rename files with sequence numbers during import, or as a batch after import. However, there are also tools that can do this at the finder level (this can also be done easily with Unix shell scripts or AppleScript if you know how). You can then import into iPhoto.

I believe the problem wasn't in renaming files to have sequence numbers, but that if you change the name of a file after importing it to iPhoto then iPhoto gets all confused because it's still looking for the old file. iPhoto provides no mechanism to change the name of the underlying file. Say if you don't want every file being named like img0009.jpg. It would be a smart feature for the common user to be able to rename it to "Fishing With Grandpa.jpg" after it's already in iPhoto.

Granted, iPhoto seems to welcome 3rd party plugins well enough that the feature could be added. I'd do it, but the last time I thought about doing one of these, Apple went and released the feature before I could get started (face detection and tagging, really).

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post #58 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:28pm
Can iWeb actually produce and manage more than 1 web site at a time now?

I found that missing from the first release ridiculous.

Thanks for any info!
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post #59 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:31pm
Please, oh please, please please, Apple, gimme tables for iWeb!!!!

I know that there are other apps out there that have tables, for example, ALL OF THEM, but for some of my stuff, iWeb is perfect.

I just really would like to see tables. I hope that they're in '09.

www.glacialdrumlin.com is the one site that I use iWeb for. Tables would really help me out.
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post #60 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:39pm
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I believe the problem wasn't in renaming files to have sequence numbers, but that if you change the name of a file after importing it to iPhoto then iPhoto gets all confused because it's still looking for the old file. iPhoto provides no mechanism to change the name of the underlying file. Say if you don't want every file being named like img0009.jpg. It would be a smart feature for the common user to be able to rename it to "Fishing With Grandpa.jpg" after it's already in iPhoto.

Oh indeed, it would be a nice feature if files could be batch-renamed in iPhoto, but batch-renaming them prior to import is an alternative to spending $200 for Aperture and then learning how to use it (as its interface can be a bit intimidating at first; I personally could not live without Aperture and very rarely use iPhoto anymore).
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post #61 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by djames42 View Post

Oh indeed, it would be a nice feature if files could be batch-renamed in iPhoto, but batch-renaming them prior to import is an alternative to spending $200 for Aperture and then learning how to use it (as its interface can be a bit intimidating at first; I personally could not live without Aperture and very rarely use iPhoto anymore).

I use iPhoto to download them from my camera, so there is no "prior to import".
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post #62 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by djames42 View Post

Oh indeed, it would be a nice feature if files could be batch-renamed in iPhoto, but batch-renaming them prior to import is an alternative to spending $200 for Aperture and then learning how to use it (as its interface can be a bit intimidating at first; I personally could not live without Aperture and very rarely use iPhoto anymore).

I batch-rename my files before I import them into iPhoto but I would love for iPhoto to let me rename them. I'll give Aperture another try but $200 for a fancy photo manager that I won't really use it a lot of money. I wonder how difficult it would be to write a plugin for iPhoto to do this?

If I imported the pictures from the camera into iPhoto, removed the bad pictures and ran a script or a plugin that would copy the pictures from event's folder in the iPhoto folder -> renamed the pictures based on the event's name -> put the renamed files in a temp folder -> delete the corresponding iPhoto event -> import the renamed files back to iPhoto into an event.

I think my logic is ok - it would certainly take awhile though but at least it would be automated and my wife could use iPhoto to import the pictures.
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post #63 of 93
1/6/09 at 3:57pm
Garageband seems to have undergone a UI overhaul, which is nice, but the only new features seem to be the instructional video (which doesn't interest me) an improved Magic Garageband and an apparently new set of effects and amp simulations. The Apple site is pretty vague on details on the last bit. Is there any more info out there?

Also, with regard to the video content: in 1983, Sting had probably the most refined sense of cool in rock music. His presence in a Garageband lesson video shows that you can't even see cool from where he is.
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post #64 of 93
1/6/09 at 5:20pm
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All these improvements are nice and all but where am I going to put the bits on my MBP. At 200GB I'm almost full now. I'm really hoping that SL does in fact free up a lot of disk space because things are a bit crowded.

You can buy 500GB notebook drives too, drives are very cheap now. Just be careful to buy the thinner ones, the thicker ones won't fit.

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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

You know tape is the dumbest way to store/share/distribute movies right?

Tape can be the smartest way to store as in an archival medium, but sharing and distribution are likely different, but that depends on considerations and circumstances.

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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

If you have to manage 20K images, sounds like you might want to look into Aperture or Lightroom.

True, though Picasa is a good example of a program that can handle 25k+ pictures without so much as a blink. Aperture and iPhoto can be pretty sluggish. I think the two companies can learn from each other.

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I guess you're ignorant of how long it has been since machines like the Mini and Mac Pro have been updated.

One year and a half and one year, respectively. The CPUs really weren't updated for the Mac Pro anyway, it's a bit too much to expect updates when new CPUs aren't available when Apple doesn't update Mac Pros until a new processor is available.

The mini has always been a second class citizen, I doubt that would ever change.

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I mean- who cares about the face?

Face recognition is probably the best way to identify the person that the face is attached to.

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Originally Posted by kjgienapp View Post

I batch-rename my files before I import them into iPhoto but I would love for iPhoto to let me rename them. I'll give Aperture another try but $200 for a fancy photo manager that I won't really use it a lot of money. I wonder how difficult it would be to write a plugin for iPhoto to do this?

Aperture is more than just a fancy photo manager. But if I had to do it again, I think I would give Lightroom a more serious look. I chose Aperture only because I got a very good deal at a CompUSA closing sale.
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post #65 of 93
1/6/09 at 6:33pm
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No entirely new app? Apple used to be able to release a whole new iApp every year, but now all they can manage is updates.

To introduce a new app, there has to be a broad need for it in the consumer space. What would you suggest? I think the updates do offer some interesting new features.

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Originally Posted by oberpongo View Post

well this is nice:

Mac Box Set, Leopard, iLife, and iWork for $169.

Hope that this will also be available with snow leopard.

To bad that iWork is available now, but ilife at the end of January and Snow Leopard sometime in Q2.

It's a good incentive to wait, though I wonder if it's a limited time bundle.
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post #66 of 93
1/6/09 at 7:17pm
Can iWeb actually produce and manage more than 1 web site at a time now?

I found that missing from the first release ridiculous.

Thanks for any info!
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post #67 of 93
1/6/09 at 8:14pm
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post #68 of 93
1/6/09 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

Not true - http://www.apple.com/ilife/systemrequirements.html



What does this sentence mean? ;-)

It does require Intel see these lines from the link above:
Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor
iMovie requires an Intel-based Mac, Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0GHz or faster), or iMac G5 (1.9GHz or faster).
GarageBand Learn to Play requires an Intel-based Mac with a dual-core processor or better.
You can not use iMovie 09 on a PPC G4, nor can you run the Learn to Play on any PPC (G4 nor G5)
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post #69 of 93
1/6/09 at 10:01pm
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I batch-rename my files before I import them into iPhoto but I would love for iPhoto to let me rename them. I'll give Aperture another try but $200 for a fancy photo manager that I won't really use it a lot of money. I wonder how difficult it would be to write a plugin for iPhoto to do this?

If I imported the pictures from the camera into iPhoto, removed the bad pictures and ran a script or a plugin that would copy the pictures from event's folder in the iPhoto folder -> renamed the pictures based on the event's name -> put the renamed files in a temp folder -> delete the corresponding iPhoto event -> import the renamed files back to iPhoto into an event.

I think my logic is ok - it would certainly take awhile though but at least it would be automated and my wife could use iPhoto to import the pictures.

I assume you want to rename upon export of iphoto for use in some other application. A quick google give.

"Add a title to a pic in iPhoot, then if you want to export the pic simply use the File -> Export command and use the Title as Filename option."

So the exported files have unique, meaningful names. I believe this has been available is iphoto 6
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post #70 of 93
1/7/09 at 2:17am
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I hope iMovie can export back to Tape

My biggest concern was that Apple never fixed the issues with iMovie 08 when editing and exporting DV tape SD formatted video!! \

You could spend hours editing your video and getting everything looking good and then when the Video was rednered onto a DVD or back to tape the video quality was appaling!!

So I am hoping iMovie 09 is much better at editig video and exporting to different formats, cause I have been surviving on imovie 06 for 2 years!

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post #71 of 93
1/7/09 at 4:40am
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Originally Posted by frankie View Post

Can iWeb actually produce and manage more than 1 web site at a time now?

I found that missing from the first release ridiculous.

Thanks for any info!

I have about 7 different sites in iWeb '08.
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post #72 of 93
1/7/09 at 5:29am
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I assume you want to rename upon export of iphoto for use in some other application. A quick google give.

"Add a title to a pic in iPhoot, then if you want to export the pic simply use the File -> Export command and use the Title as Filename option."

So the exported files have unique, meaningful names. I believe this has been available is iphoto 6

I used to do this manually before I uploaded the pictures to my webserver but found that renaming them before iPhoto worked and they were correctly named in iPhoto. I would like the pictures' filenames to be descriptive in iPhoto not just after an export.

I'll see if I can get automator to do this before I have it batch rename my pictures and re-import them into iPhoto. Thanks for the idea - I've done it the other way for so long I forgot I could do this.
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post #73 of 93
1/7/09 at 8:40am
Photo face recognition is cool - but yet another tool that excludes an often-ignored demographic - twins.
And does it work for pets too?
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post #74 of 93
1/7/09 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by oberpongo View Post

Great new features. It's the software that makes every Mac so much more fun than a PC. To bad though that i just got a new MacBook Pro for XMAS and will have to pay 79$ for new iLife and another 79$ for the new iWork.

When I worked at my local Apple Retail Store, as I am sure is still the case, there was a 2 week return/adjustment period. Depending on the date on your receipt (if your MacBook was purchased within 2 weeks) you can "return" the MacBook to the store and "repurchase" the same MacBook with the discounted $49 version of iWork.

In my experience, as long as you are not a jerk about it (not that you *personally* are, just speaking in generalities) the staff/managers have been very understanding and nice about things like this. Never know unless you try. . . .

It's not much, but $30 is $30 (or 30 Wendy's Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers, depending on your preferred form of currency).
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post #75 of 93
1/7/09 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Too lazy to look youself?

http://www.apple.com/ilife/idvd/

Interesting that on all of the promotional banners, the Apple homepage, etc. When iLife 09 is mentioned, listed are iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, and iWeb. iDVD, although still part of iLife '09, sure is getting a little bit shade, isn't it?
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post #76 of 93
1/7/09 at 9:33am
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Interesting that on all of the promotional banners, the Apple homepage, etc. When iLife 09 is mentioned, listed are iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, and iWeb. iDVD, although still part of iLife '09, sure is getting a little bit shade, isn't it?

And iDVD is the only one that isn't branded with '09.
Phil Schiller may get into a little trouble for accidentally saying iDVD was also new for iLife '09.
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post #77 of 93
1/7/09 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by carloblackmore View Post

Photo face recognition is cool - but yet another tool that excludes an often-ignored demographic - twins.
And does it work for pets too?

I wonder if there is any way for it to take into account that my daughter, even though she has the same name, doesn't look the same over the course of a year or two.
I wonder if that will mess things up.
Either way, it's a pretty cool feature.
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post #78 of 93
1/7/09 at 11:42am
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I wonder if there is any way for it to take into account that my daughter, even though she has the same name, doesn't look the same over the course of a year or two.
I wonder if that will mess things up.
Either way, it's a pretty cool feature.

Google's Picasa Web Album has this feature and it wasn't able to recognize my kid's face a few years apart. What can you do if a face changes?
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post #79 of 93
1/7/09 at 1:17pm
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Can iWeb actually produce and manage more than 1 web site at a time now?

I found that missing from the first release ridiculous.

Thanks for any info!

It has always been able to manage multiple websites, I have many all done in the same version of iWeb '08. No tricks just the basic app.

www.idparkinson.co.uk
www.mysausages.com
www.urbanremotesport.com
http://web.me.com/idparkinson/Adriatic/Welcome.html
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1/7/09 at 1:21pm
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And iDVD is the only one that isn't branded with '09.
Phil Schiller may get into a little trouble for accidentally saying iDVD was also new for iLife '09.

He did not say iDVD was 'new' for iLife '09, he just said it was part of it.
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