Originally Posted by cygnusrk727
People said that about the Gizmodo article.
the difference is that Gizmodo never stated a source. it was always "unnamed source close to X" which could mean 'out their butts'.
in this article, because they knew the real doctor would keep his mouth shut under doctor/patient they went to some doctor in another country who has probably never met Steve Jobs much less treated him and got a statement about the worst case scenario, failed to admit that that was the question asked and put the baby disclaimer that is required under the statement.
see in Journalism (a career I almost had) the rule is that you put the most important stuff first and then trickle down to the filler. that way when the audience stops reading after the 2nd or 3rd paragraph, they don't miss anything important.
so folks are reading this article from a supposedly 'good' source and they read those first two paragraphs and get the big info. how many are going to keep reading that the guy has no clue what he's really talking about compared to the ones that run to sell off their Apple stock because the company tanks cause Steve was the only one that did or thought anything there.
Originally Posted by DoctorBenway
What they're not saying is a quote from right after his first operation by doctors in the field. Only 1 percent got the treatable form of pancreatic cancer - but life-extension case history was not available after 5 years.
And that surgery? That was 5 years ago.
The probabilities in his procedure have run out,
probabilities are just that. they are 'based on the information we have'. they are not solid rules. They might say "only 1 in 5 million patients that have received this treatment have lived beyond 5 years" based on the fact that that's what they have seen. but hey you only need 1 and in the last five years they might be due for another '1' and that could be Steve Jobs
Originally Posted by roehlstation
I thought the point of Mr. Jobs taking medical leave was to get out of the limelight to keep the distractions down from reports, just like this.
at this point the man is dammed no matter what. if he goes he's dying, if he stays he's dying.
he is taking this active duty leave because all the stress of not having taken a leave, plus all this BS is not helping him recover and the doctors probably told him this
but hey, lets not forget that all Apple laptops and imac, plus the new LED display have a built in isight camera.
steve can go off to the Bahamas with his new hot off the press MacBookPro 17 inch and be a virtual presence at the morning meetings where he gets updates about whatever is happening for WWDC etc while sitting on the beach. He can join in the Board Meetings no one the wiser that he's getting a nice full body massage at the same time.
and here's the thing too. computer tech is not something you dream up and do in a weekend. it takes months, if not years, to plan, design and execute a new idea. so what his happening right now is stuff Steve was involved in. some of which we won't probably see for another year or two. the guy could die today and the company still has his great ideas to work with for a while. and chances are that the ideas that come afterwards would just be a continuation with WWSD at every turn. at least for a good 5 years.
heck he may have notes to guide them even
Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
He has no facts, and no idea of exactly what Steve Jobs' health problems are. He's just spouting the same stuff you can look up on Wikipaedia on survival rates and probabilities.
not exactly. this guy was involved in the early days of developing the procedure that Jobs had. so he does have a clue about the procedure. he just doesn't have a clue about Steve
hormones are a tricky thing and it is possible that some of this trouble would have happened even without the cancer. the guy is in his 50s after all.
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
True enough. This is just more rampant speculation. Whether he does or doesn't have surgery, and whether he lives or dies, he's got more important things to deal with than Apple right now.
not according to some of the stock holders
Originally Posted by amac4me
These speculative stories by those who don't have first hand knowledge of Jobs' condition are just that ... SPECULATION and hence, are not worthy of publication in my view.
which is kind of the point. Bloomburg was not every responsible with this article and frankly I think they should be invested and sanctioned for it. I would love, and I sure Apple and Jobs would agree, for the SEC if possible to put it out there that anyone, from any source, that publishes any news about Steve Jobs Health that is not a reprinted from an official Apple release, will be invested and sanctioned for possible tampering with the companies stock price. not unlike what happened with the kid that hacked the paper and posted that Jobs was dead and the price dropped like 20 dollars in a day.
Originally Posted by nagromme "When conditions are complicated, physicians have difficulty making clear decisions."
-- Joe Grundfest, professor of capital markets, corporate governance and securities litigation at Stanford University
(And to be even more fair, I--who know just as little about medicine as Joe Grundfest--think his statement is quite reasonable!)
yep. and the only one that should be made. because it addresses why all the 'spin' (as naysayers have deemed it). Medicine is complicated and there are not certain addresses.
heck, Steve could survive all of this and come out clean only to get hit by a bus walking across the street from work to pick up a grande frap or to take a walk in the park during lunch.
Originally Posted by Kolchak
If the speculation is true, it could actually be an opportunity for Apple. Imagine Jobs pushing Apple to design an incredibly intelligent and user-friendly insulin pump
there are already insulin pumps and glucose pumps in the market. one needle in the side or the thigh and all you have to do is monitor the supply levels and the read outs. most of them will even beep to let you know when you need to check something.
Originally Posted by macFanDave
I just hope that he's going to real medical doctors trained in science!
i doubt he'd let some witch doctor perform surgery on him.