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Originally Posted by
jimmac 
I'm sorry trumptman but this sounds more like you than it does adda.

Yeah because you know so much about me to make such a claim. Don't go outside your area of expertise. I am not your expertise. Get a hobby.
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Originally Posted by
@_@ Artman 
What a lame retort.
Your offended by my pics? I'm offended by the lack of humanity.
You think I'm happy
another drone attack in Pakistan happened on Obama's watch? I'm not. The CIA has the authority to launch attacks in Pakistan without the presidents approval though. He didn't order it. He merely acknowledged the mission. But that is (and will be) troubling.
Anything he can do to
change that, as he is willing to do with other shit that Bush left behind gives
hope that he will.
Carry on with your show...
Listen, if you are so offended, then stop cluttering up the thought process that allows change. It is offensive to claim to desire change while disrupting the very discussions that can empower it. Give the people cartoons and watch them think like four year olds.
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Originally Posted by
@_@ Artman 
Well, I know you'd get a hard-on from it.
Obama's playing this just right. The Republicans are trying two strategies here. Some of them are ignoring Obama's plan and proposing a completely separate, Limbaugh-approved, Bush Tax Cuts II plan, which they know won't pass but it gives them a talking point for political posturing. The other Republican strategy has been to actually offer a few useful ideas.
In this meeting, Obama thoroughly smacked down the right-wing posturing, and he showed that he was receptive to reasonable ideas from the other side.
Ignoring Limbaugh and taking the high road doesn't really seem to work. That's always been the Democrat strategy toward him, but it really just seems to make him think he's empowered to say any idiotic thing he wants with no reprisals. Maybe instead of shrugging him off, people should start shouting him down for once. We all know he's a cowardly blowhard who can't stand up to real opposition or debate.
So maybe we should start giving him and his ilk just that.

Real opposition or debate would cause the left to collapse in a heap. They deal in caricatures and insults. Obama is already tearing at everything that even raises an eyebrow at the mere thought of "wasting questions" on daring to ponder what he suggests as a plan. His own party will rip itself apart ready to fall on their utopian sword. No solution will be perfect and "good enough" is something worth dying over until it is bought out with trillions in spending.
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Originally Posted by
Flounder 
Just because a statement fits someone, or they think a statement fits them, or they think that someone thinks a statement fits them, does not mean it's about them.
Yeah I mean it would be paranoid to think that, but of course when someone calls the person out and they NAME the person and others still want to claim it isn't about that person, well then they would just be fucking idiots.
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Originally Posted by
jimmac 
Obama's right. It's Mr. Limbaugh's type that has sunk the Republican party. As soon as they get that and move on to form a better PR of themselves representing something closer to a classic Republican and not a smoke and mirrors, blo hard, oaf of a Neocon ( because the time of the Neocons is over ), and try to appeal to the american voter the sooner they'll be back on top. But even then it'll take awhile. Remember most Americans blame Bush and the Republicans for our current state of affairs.
Things actually have to improve a bit before they start to forget. So you'd better pray that Obama's plans work because strangely enough they're the only hope Republicans have of getting back into the limelight in a shorter period of time. Of course they have to change in the mean time as well.
They really need to get that this kind of bull shit isn't a highly prized commodity these days and it's unpopular. It may be 29% popular but unpopular as a whole. And they need the whole.
Hey Jimmac, congrats on putting together more than three fragments and a smiley. You love your trends so just remember that the last time the Democrats controlled both houses and the presidency it took a whole two years for the wheels to come off.
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Originally Posted by
Bergermeister 
... and 84% of Americans believe Obama is doing a good job so far, meaning lots of people who voted McCain/Palin support the new president. Rush and his cronies are in that rather small 16% somewhere, and are probably feeling rather lonely. (16% likely includes no opinion, too, so Rush isn't representing but a very small, rabid part of the populace).
Sorry those numbers are already down and normalizing with the first true poll. I guess we should play with numbers too. Since Obama is already down to 68% from 83% (15 points in a week) we can just project that amount of loss per week out until he should be impeached by summer.
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Originally Posted by
addabox 
I think we're likely to see (or are seeing) the reduction of that demographic-- and by reduction I mean in the soup stock sense, where the intensity increases as the volume shrinks.
At some point we may reach the pure bullion cube of Rush conservatism: tiny, but packed with seething resentment and delicious crazy.
At some point, the national mood will provide the boiling water, and the larger but less flavorful conservatism will be born anew.
Either that or they'll go right past "compacted" into "imploded" and become a black hole, from which nothing will ever escape again.
You've made me hungry. I like the commercials best with the sock puppets. They really help sell the soup more than the dancing bongo players.
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Originally Posted by
addabox 
Don't underestimate Obama's caginess. He's been patiently laying the groundwork for "I welcome your principled opposition in the spirit of bipartisanship" exactly because it allows him to play the "but I reject your obstructionist, know-nothing bullshit" card.
I think he intends to lend a helping hand to whatever remains of a programmatic Republicanism, drawing them into the process and publicly praising their contributions, while isolating and shaming the Limbaugh faction.
And I believe he will do this, not out of any spitefulness, but because he is aware that there are ginormous problems to be tackled and the country can ill-afford the side show of Paleocon posturing.
He's cagey. He is so very cagey. I mean now he'll have to be that one president at a time and comment on issues. Maybe next week when he wanders into the press room he might have to even answer question rather than telling them about the gym where he polishes up his abs. The week after that those seething factions might not even want to know about the first dog anymore and the week after that, they might even want to know the details of his trillion dollar stimulus plan.
I'm sure though that when they do that, he'll just talk about the gym, the dog, ask them not to waste questions and then tell them that all opposition is just bullshit.
Soup is the new pie.