Originally Posted by Sekio
The fact that the Zune is STILL Windows only can't be helping them either. Microsoft's head is stuck in the sand not realising that so many people are using Macs now, especially people who use mp3 players. Terrible thinking on Microsoft's part!
Please explain why a Mac user would want to use a Microsoft device. Not only that, the reality is that Mac users are a minority. Adding a Mac client would expand their market by 10%. A Linux client would expand their market by 1%. Those are serious diminishing returns, if the Windows user market can't sustain the Zune, then Mac and Linux users won't either. Porting apps take a lot more than 10% more work, so the additional customers would cost more to support than their Windows user base.
Originally Posted by KevinN206
* Microsoft failure to expand to other markets besides the US (don't know why)
All those other points aside, for this point I would blame the music companies. They've segmented all their download rights to a per-country basis and you have to make negotiations for each country. Apple takes a while to add countries too. The recording companies simply haven't caught up with the new reality.
Originally Posted by brlawyer
Sorry, but if you feel like paying something per month to get a lot of music, at least try eMusic...DRM-free, a good number of downloads per month and very low prices...to use a rent model for music is to be masochistic...
It looks like maybe you misunderstand, read post #30.
eMusic's selection is fragmentary at best, the bands that I checked were only represented by a few of their albums. I didn't appreciate the fact that credits don't roll over, and you can't buy more music a month than your credits allow, that's incredibly constraining.
Originally Posted by parky
If it is so great - why is it not working?
You are in the minority regarding renting music, the majority prefer to buy it.
That is clear if you look at the failed rental services.
Even MS and all their marketing money can't sell a player and a rental model.
I think it's probably a misunderstanding. Usually, Microsoft doesn't have much for marketing money, they've generally spent less on marketing than other companies do. They certainly didn't market Zune as much as Apple did when Apple started selling the iPods. What marketing MS did do was poorly executed.
Frankly, I don't think people understand the math behind it, which is understandable why it fails in the US because Americans are generally bad at math, our typical students would probably get whooped by Europe's special ed students.
If you spent $15 a month buying albums, you'll buy 18 albums a year. Ten years of that means that you own 180 albums, and who knows, maybe you'll decide you don't like some of the older ones you bought, maybe only 15 of them are in your rotation. In comparison, $15 a month of renting gets you access to several hundred thousand albums, all commercial free. But people are fine with spending, $30, 50 75 or more on cable TV for video that is infested with horrible ads, which is also a rental, cancel the cable and the cable goes away. You can record cable for later, but then, it's also possible to record music using the analog ports too, the same analog hole applies to both mediums.