Apple releases iPhone Software v2.2.1 - Page 2

I think it must be just you because as you mentioned the past year has brought.

1. MacBook Air
2. iPhone 3G
3. Completely redesigned laptops
4. New iPod nano

Not to mention, many major software upgrades like

1. Apple TV Take 2
2. Mobile Me
3. iPhone 2.0
4. App Store
5. ILife 09
6. iWork 09

In fact, looking at that list, I'd say 2008 was probably Apple's most prolific year ever. Can you think of a year where more was introduced?

Yeah, but I'm a loser with video recording and copy & paste.

why are we not outraged that we don't yet have application notifications??

Both of which I could care less about.....


Because were all too busy bitching about the lack of copy and paste.

Does it fix AT&T?

no deal. we were never promised copy and paste... copy and paste was never demoed!!!

It scares me that I don't read about this more often...

From what I can gather there is somewhat of an expectation that the next version of the iPhone will be so much more powerful as to be able to simply offer multi-tasking apps straight out instead of that workaround with the notification server. Also, this is just a point release, not a release when one could expect new features.

It is curious though, since everyone likes to pile on Apple these days about mostly illusory problems and failures, that this "real" failure is ignored for the most part. People seem willing to write entire angry articles about the lack of copy and paste, which was not even promised and of only limited usefulness, but for some reason Apple missing a deadline on a major promise by months and months and months is no big deal?

Copy and Paste is a big deal when every other phone on the market can do it. Wouldn't you be a little bent if Apple had released the Mac without Copy and Paste and 2 year later still didn't have it when every other OS had it? Seems like a trivial thing to do and to leave it off is perplexing. It is a legitimate gripe.

Need the basics back*
- No image loading option in mail
- Text only option in mail
- Mark read w/o reading in mail
- Msg display sort order options in mail
(MailTags changes the mod date which moves messages to the top)
- Tethering!!! When oh when? Apple? AT&T? Do I have to jailbreak?
- Real Bluetooth

I'd give up all the apps (which are cool but I almost never use) for this

*("back" because I gave them up when I traded my Blackberry in without even considering these basics would be missing. Still getting spam because of an email I opened before I knew about the image loading issue. Yes - I do know that's the spam source.)

The real skinny is, it corrupts the software. This has been known since dev 1. It existed in the 1st beta and has never been repaired. Not sure why they can't figure it out, but that's the truth, it's broke and they can't fix it.

Now youre just being unrealistic. To expect the iPhone to be used for actual business purposes rather than the gaming toy its become.

Come on, you have to realize that Apple put Emogi Icons ahead of all of these features that actually could make the iPhone worth upgrading to the next rev.

I think you need to lower your expectations as I have and realize that I am a middle aged man with a toy in my pocket (no pun intended).

Thankfully, competition is always out there and I can move on to a real Smart Phone that caters to the business world and not the FaceBook generation.

Yes, I want a real camera on my phone. Who carries a camera with them at all times?
Yes, I want push email that actually works.
Yes, I want Speed Dial and Voice Dial like my 7 year old Motorola V551.
Yes, I want to be able to actually edit a document on my Phone and not just view it.
Yes, I want Flash and every other popular (non apple) video to work on my phone. Ever go to CNN or ESPN that has all Flash for their video sources.
Yes, I want multi tasking.

The phone world isnt used to Apples once a year slam upgrade policy and the 3g was no big game changer.

Was I promised these things. No. But its been a long, long time since anything has come out for the iPhone that is useful.
Yes there are tons of Apps but Im not a gamer and 99.9% of the apps in the store dont reflect what anyone in the business world actually needs to enhance their work day.

:grum ble:
I want MMS! Everyone else has had it since the 1990's! I used to have it on my cheap $50 phone. I WANT MMS!!!!

Wait a sec! So you're saying Apple will release these updates?

First off, in my last post, I mentioned that Apple hasn't been able to code the iPhone with CUT and PASTE since it's carnation as it WAS on the beta.

Second, Tom Tom was reportedly (Google it) working on a iPhone App yet it never came out - this was almost a year ago.

So I hardly doubt that suddenly we'll see these.

Given that a) The price of the PRE is very low and full featured and b) everything from Android to Palm will have an app store in a few years (many of whom were iPhone App developers told NO or fed up with the rules are going there (see note of APPLE iPhone Creative LEAD goes to Palm to develop phone) and I see, once again, Apple and it's proprietary(ala no tethering for example) and closed ended system running into a wall if they are not careful. Some say the iPhone isn't even hip anymore. Also no longer #1 in tech devices.

I think with the way the iPhone works with its touch interface and the lack of multi-tasking, its really not necessary. What do you do all day that would require copy and paste? Seems to me it would be more of a convenience feature only a select few would use in the end. Sure, lots of people want it, but you don't know in the end who will actually use the feature on a daily basis. Apple isn't about adding features just because the rest of its competition has them implemented. They're about innovating, or perhaps even re-inventing the wheel with new features that go beyond what its competition already has implemented. This is what makes Apple great. They're a leader, not a follower.

Tell me truthfully if you dont need multi tasking on your computer.
While youre at it tell me you dont use copy and paste at least a few times a day at minimum.

Apple doesnt need to give us what almost every other phone does because they need to do it first, thats just about the most ignorant statement Ive seen on this site (and thats saying a lot).

Thats not what makes Apple Great. It just makes them stubborn (or stupid) for not giving the end users what they want.

Well first of all...the iPhone is not a computer. Its a mobile device (phone) with a completely different OS, different interface, different way of interacting, for different uses. HUGE difference. This basically makes your whole post look kind of dumb.....

I was beginning to think I was the only one recognizing some basic flaws. I'm a big Apple fan. Have never owned a PC. For a 53 y/o engineer that's really unusual but these missing features are a big deal for me. If they could give us a release date for these (publicly acknowledged by Apple) issues I'd be willing to wait.

C'mon fellow Apple diehards - take off the blinders - is asking for an option for these basic features really too much to expect?

Apple/AT&T - At least say yes or no and when - then I could make an informed decision.

Did the update, now experiencing drop calls!

LOVELY APPLE!

Can they ever get an update right?

Problem after problem after problem.

Prior to this update I had no drop calls.

I am holding off on this, in the Apple Forums there are a few threads from desperate iPhone owners who have had great difficulty with this update requiring a "restore" and a few that have not managed to get their phones to work at all. Anyone here actually successfully done this?

I often read in threads like this that there are people who won't buy an IPhone because it lacks, among other things, a "cut & paste" function.

I've used computers almost daily for thirty years, and worked for several years doing interface design, and have can't imagine what the problem is....with the users! Why is this particular function given such a high priority by some people? What would they "cut" and where do they intend to "paste" it? I'm very curious.

I really just don't get it. Thanks for taking the time to explain to me what I'm missing here.

I have an iPhone 3G that I have had for the past few weeks.
I have honestly come across several situations where copy/paste would have been quite helpful, such as 1) sending a longish text to the wrong person (side note: shouldn't I bar able to forward so someones most recent text to another contact), 2) In Mail, came up selling things on craigslist most recently. That's somewhere you end up with several responses where people may need the same basic additional info. I don't want to have to add these people as a contact to forward them a message I sent to someone else and will likely break the "thread" when I go back to gmail or my mac at home. Copy/paste would be helpful here. 3) emailing a friend a link as part of a longer ema that I started composing before needing the link or which is a reply. I should not need to type the that I will email the link in a different message. Copy/paste.

I, like some of you eve worked out in my mind what would be a simple finger command- hold margins of what you wa t to cut until yiu get a double magnifying glass effect. Pinch to cut. Reverse (I.e. Pinch out) to paste. I suppose I could go on.

Some of my desired features, in addition to spotlight varient and others mentioned above are
- landscape keyboard in mail, ok everywhere
- email more than one photo
- editing
- and really just some of the same things many have been wanting. If a need or want is expressed across the board- on here, macrumors, gizmodo, egadget and through downloads on various productivity apps that address some of these issues in the app store, I quantify that as more than a "geek outcry" or whatever.

I've wondered a bit about this, but here's the reason I came up with. iPhone software 2.0 was INCREDIBLY buggy and unstable. That was right during the height of iPhone software "feature" griping. Everyone realized this was still an early-gen product, and were so pleased to just get 2.1 and get stability back that they're all willing to wait on Apple to get the feature right. In addition Apple's been struggling with other (presumably) similar server-type services, such as the huge MobileMe fiasco.

Anyway, that's the case for me as an iPhone user. I don't want them screwing up my phone again, as much as I long for the many feature improvements that I'm sure they are working on. So I am willing to wait for them to get it right - at least unless someone else beats them to the punch and comes out with something better, at which point I might well switch to that.

Anyway, the whole Apple news cycle has been dominated by this absolutely stupid, sickening coverage of Steve and his health (despite no one actually having, you know, any FACTS to even discuss). So that might be another reason.

After 2 years and the same phone in Gen2 with the exception of 3G and useless GPS I think you have your answer.

I know I do, and I think many in this room are finally admitting it.

Again, I just wanted to post that I have had no issues with this or any previous update and I actually enjoy the iPhone. I have had this berry and that berry..this razor and that razor, but I still fall back on what I actually do with the phone and the iPhone is a winner...for me, at least.

I do hate to hear about the issues and the difficulties, but wanted to tip my hat to Apple.

hahaha.

real multi-tasking would make the wait worth-while. remember when apple claimed that they didn't need to have SDK because webapps were good enough?

Lets hope that they give in on multi-tasking, too.

Thank you! Appreciate this post. I want better stability with Safari but I don't think this update is worth having to re jailbreak the phone.

For these reasons, coupled with the recent patent granted Apple, there's a chance you, nor anyone else may ever see a Pre released.

I would imagine they will call it...

The iPhone 3G

Just like they call the new ipods, iPods
the new iPod Nano, iPod Nano
and finally the new iPod Shuffle, iPod Shuffle

Just like the iMac is called, iMac
and the Macbook, Macbook
even the Macbook Pro, Macbook Pro.

I think there might be a pattern forming

There it is! I was looking for the perfect comment. The iphone is nearing it's mid-late life cycle. It already cannot handle the game or apps that come out for
It. It is too laggy. They won't implement obvious necessates and when the PRE comes out... Lol you can bet that I will be forking over 180 to get out of at&t for a device that can handle an SMS app without lagging.

they roll out the devkit upgrade as well... frankly, i develop iphone s/w on ppc machine... now i'd like to see clearly, will it explode my setup or not

maybe with steve out of the house, somebody could sneak in a phone call to the newton team and and find out how it's done....

Surely you mean couldn't care less about?

Why is it that AppleInsider now mention NOTHING about the dev-team and their unlocks/progress? There's absolutely no mention in this article that the upgrade disables the yellowsn0w unlock and users are recommended not to upgrade.

Surely this type of information has some relevance to the readers of AppleInsider? Once upon a time, dev-team work was reported on. There wasn't even an article here about the yellowsn0w unlock!

I want to send a photo to one person for the same cost as emailing a photo to 10,000 people...

...hang on, no I don't.

SendPhoto lets you attach multiple photo's to an email and select the size of the photo's you attach, up to 1600x1200, which can be sent to multiple contacts for a fraction of the cost of an MMS.

99c App Store.

SayWho voice dialling, works and works well.

How many other phone's can do Google voice search?

Cut and paste would be handy for sharing a link in a forum but can live without it.

So you started using computers in 1979 and don't use copy paste? Please... I use copy paste in Linux daily, in windows its second nature. That's with a mere 16 years of programming and 18 years of normal use and operation.

That's funny that you try to act like you have never had a need for it. Do you work for apple?

Hopefully, this is the last time I have to have the MMS vs. email conversation but I doubt it. They are not the same and are not interchangeable. I'm not talking about sending a photo to 10,000 people. I'm talking about being able to receive a photo that someone has sent to several of their friends while they are out and about. I should be able to view it without going to a stupid website that only works half the time...just like EVERY other phone is able to. And I don't want to hear any nonsense about "workarounds". I'm not texting my friends back every time and telling them to send it some place else. (The only people who do are fellow iPhone users.) To not support MMS b/c email is "the future" is like no longer selling gasoline b/c hydrogen is the future. Maybe it is, but we still need gas for our cars now! Why Apple can't either support MMS or simply tell us why they cannot is beyond me. Sorry, but this just really makes me mad.

I've used 'voice search' as a novelty when I first installed it..haven't used it since...I can use MMS DAILY. The post above me nailed a very good point. Yeah I can email a photo to someone..but they don't always have the ability to email a photo to me. In fact my Samsung Sync used to do everything my Iphone does with no issue (well except being a touchscreen phone with video).

It had tethering (for no charge)
It was 3G (with tethering *gasp*)
MP3 Player
Recorded Video
Could multitask
MMS Support
8gb memory (through miniSD)
Web Browser (Of my choice..I used OperaMini)
I could play games (Maybe not as nice but they were still there)

The Iphone has some nice features but the basics are missing for what reason again?

About 9,990,000 "end users" want a simplified experience and have no use for copy/paste or the extra complications it will add to the UI. I imagine these people are like my mother. They are Apple's target audience and, guess what - so far the strategy has worked!

The other 10,000 people read forums like this one and bitch and complain about missing "features". Apple does not care about them because they represent a tiny fraction of the market; nor should they. You want a whizz-bang phone that can do loads of useless stuff and looks and acts like a piece of crap (because you've customised the .png files in teh systemz and added a cron job to run a multi-core port of a WoW server in the background) as a result? Windows Mobile is to your left, thanks for your time, and have fun when it crashes and you lose all your contacts...

As for others on this site actively complaining because Apple puts out an incremental bug fix? Christ alive, whatever next?

As you were, Apple. As you were.

A lesson in how MMS works.

NEWSBREAK *** YOU CAN SEND AN MMS TO AN EMAIL ADDRESS.***

If you are in dire need of your friend's sending you an MMS ask them to add your email address to your details in their contacts list.

Guess what happens when they send the MMS to your email address?

Apparently my network provider will provide me with a link to an MMS in an SMS when I receive one BUT in the six months since I got my iPhone 3G I haven't had a single chance to test this as no-one I know uses MMS, we all use email.