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I have never understood why people dislike the chin. I love the chin! I think it makes the iMac look distinguished, to say nothing of the fact that it's really good for post-its.

AND people seem to forget that from the 17" to the 24" it has SHRUNK.
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post #42 of 154
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I have never understood why people dislike the chin. I love the chin! I think it makes the iMac look distinguished, to say nothing of the fact that it's really good for post-its.

Thank you Romy- or is it Michelle?
post #43 of 154
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Originally Posted by KindredMac View Post

The Mac Pro is just a floating Ghost Ship now with no crew so you might as well make the iMac the pro machine.

I don't know how long ago I last posted, but this has to be the quote of the day
post #44 of 154
Introduce the new iMac during the SuperBowl - the 25th anniversary of the MAC!!!!!!
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A complete desktop update is needed:

- iMac last updated April 2008
- Mac Pro last updated January 2008
- Mac mini last updated August 2007
post #46 of 154
Last time apple warned of dwindling macbook supply was 2.5 months before they released the new ones. If they follow the same pattern this time (which I assume they will), we should get new iMacs around April 14. That also makes sense, it's a Tuesday...
I'm hoping for sooner, however, so that new iMac sales can be recorded this quarter.
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Introduce the new iMac during the SuperBowl - the 25th anniversary of the MAC!!!!!!

What a stunningly brilliant and original idea, shame its been talked about for about the last year AND that Steve doesn't do nostalgia.

Other than that, wow, you are on fire!
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post #48 of 154
Last time apple warned of dwindling macbook supply was 2.5 months before they released the new ones. If they follow the same pattern this time (which I assume they will), we should get new iMacs around April 14. That also makes sense, it's a Tuesday...
I'm hoping for sooner, however, so that new iMac sales can be recorded this quarter.
post #49 of 154
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Originally Posted by Walter Slocombe View Post

What a stunningly brilliant and original idea, shame its been talked about for about the last year AND that Steve doesn't do nostalgia.

Other than that, wow, you are on fire!

Steve doesn't do anything- he's on leave.
I never portended it to be brilliant nor original.
And what do you bring to the table besides rotten eggs?
post #50 of 154
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

blah, blah, blah, headless Mac, etc. blah, blah .....

While it's likely that Jobs might bring back the cube form factor simply because he hates to lose *anything* ... the argument for a headless Mac in a slightly cheaper price range than the current flagship iMac is just stupid IMO.

It seems to me that it actually presupposes that Apple will at the same time discontinue the iMac (their flagship product that sells like hotcakes), because otherwise your headless wonder would eat it's dinner. Such a product would also probably destroy the market success the mini currently enjoys or at best require turning the mini into just a cheaper version of the same headless product.

Congratulations! You have just suggested replacing Apple's entire desktop line with Dells.

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post #51 of 154
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

Congratulations! You have just suggested replacing Apple's entire desktop line with Dells.


The current iMac couldn't look any more "Dell-ish"
post #52 of 154
Take these for what there worth - definitely worth the read.

iMac Rumor
http://macosrumors.com/2009/01/30/up...-new/#more-540

MacPro Rumor
http://macosrumors.com/2009/01/28/im...erge/#more-520
post #53 of 154
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Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post

I'd trade thickness for getting rid of the chin. I don't for a second understand the obsession with making a desktop computer thin. How many people look at their displays from the side? That's right zero. If you lose the chin then even a thicker machine would be the same weight and same total amount of material. Probably the only thing that would change is the shipping box would have to be a bit bigger. All that extra engineering to fit and cool components in a tiny space just to save a few trees hardly seems worth it.

Is this a joke? You could keep going, you know:

"I'd trade looks for usability any day. I don't for a second understand Apple's obsession with design. A computer is a tool, not a pretty sculpture. Shoot, I can build my own PC out of cheap mail order parts at 1/4 the price. And who cares what the OS looks like? I can do the same stuff with Linux for free. I'm working, not looking at a stupid painting."

(Of course, with someone like you at the helm, we would never have had Apple in the first place.)
post #54 of 154
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Originally Posted by GCS View Post

Take these for what there worth - definitely worth the read.

iMac Rumor
http://macosrumors.com/2009/01/30/up...-new/#more-540

MacPro Rumor
http://macosrumors.com/2009/01/28/im...erge/#more-520

Uggh why won't they just die?
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post #55 of 154
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Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post

I'm eager to see new iMacs. My minimum requirements are: IPS display (like the current 24"), quad core processor, OpenCL compatible graphics (minimum 9600), FireWire 800 port(s), ability to upgrade the hard drive myself.

My parents are waiting for the new Mac mini. They've been making do with a 533MHz G4 since their iMac died and ask me every time we talk if Apple has released the new model yet.

You're never going to get a user replaceable hard drive in an all-in-one computer, so, by all means, keep dreaming.

In any case, I already have the current top iMac, so I'm more interested in the new Mac Minis (if they are still to be) than anything else.
post #56 of 154
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Originally Posted by jwervel16 View Post

Is this a joke? You could keep going, you know:

"I'd trade looks for usability any day. I don't for a second understand Apple's obsession with design. A computer is a tool, not a pretty sculpture. Shoot, I can build my own PC out of cheap mail order parts at 1/4 the price. And who cares what the OS looks like? I can do the same stuff with Linux for free. I'm working, not looking at a stupid painting."

(Of course, with someone like you at the helm, we would never have had Apple in the first place.)

The real joke is that Jobs panned the current iMac's form factor when he introduced the Sunflower iMac. After Apple discontinued the sunflower and brought in the chin, there had never been more "WTF?" reactions. Although improved significantly in the aluminum iteration, the iMac design is exactly as dull and stupid as Steve said it was seven years ago.
post #57 of 154
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Bring it!!
And while your at it- please add to it
1.) Blu-ray drive
2.) MAtte option
3.) 30" Display
3.) New mouse- flat touch pad.
4.) A unified color scheme with no screen border and no chin.

My name is Lisa Chin and I am very offended.
post #58 of 154
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Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post

Uggh why won't they just die?

those are no worse than anyone elses speculation, whats you're point?
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post #59 of 154
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

While it's likely that Jobs might bring back the cube form factor simply because he hates to lose *anything* ... the argument for a headless Mac in a slightly cheaper price range than the current flagship iMac is just stupid IMO.

It seems to me that it actually presupposes that Apple will at the same time discontinue the iMac (their flagship product that sells like hotcakes), because otherwise your headless wonder would eat it's dinner. Such a product would also probably destroy the market success the mini currently enjoys or at best require turning the mini into just a cheaper version of the same headless product.

Congratulations! You have just suggested replacing Apple's entire desktop line with Dells.


What I'd like to see to the disappointment of others is:

A Core 2 Duo Extreme Mac Cube with a standard PCI-e slot in it as a replacement to the MacMini. Problem is, I think it would be hard for Apple to make a decent Mac Cube without charging like $999 for it. So at $999 and there being no more MacMini it would make Apple's cheapest Mac $999, which isn't great in this economy. If they could make one for $799 and $899 or $999 that would be great. Of course we all know this won't happen...but one could hope.

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post #60 of 154
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Originally Posted by Walter Slocombe View Post

those are no worse than anyone elses speculation, whats you're point?

Actually sites like 9to5 actually have rumors and speculation with a shred of credibility. I just simply refuse to support macosrumors.com made up information.
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post #61 of 154
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Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post

Actually sites like 9to5 actually have rumors and speculation with a shred of credibility. I just simply refuse to support macosrumors.com made up information.

macosrumors? I thought they were dead. Every time I go to their website, its dead. The whole site is down.

Their rumors are almost never true. Or they pull a macrumors and just report what everyone else is reporting and claim they were right.

Most of the time though, they're a struggling website.

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post #62 of 154
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

The current iMac couldn't look any more "Dell-ish"

Say what????

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post #63 of 154
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Originally Posted by lightstriker View Post

My name is Lisa Chin and I am very offended.

This whole discussion of the iMac brings back memories from years (decades, actually) ago one night when Joan Rivers was guest-hosting on the Johnny Carson show. Rivers was poking fun at Elizabeth Taylor's large weight gain during her monologue:

"She has more chins than the Shanghai phone book".
post #64 of 154
I hope the limited availability means that new models are coming soon, but
it could also just mean that Apple is trying to avoid having too much inventory
in a struggling economy.
post #65 of 154
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Originally Posted by macxpress View Post

Say what????

Compared to the Sunflower, it looks pretty Dell-ish.

What is not Dell-ish about it, though, and Apple deserves credit for this, is that it is rather quiet.

But, frankly, the iMac could be improved by being a bit more Dell-ish in a few ways, such as having component and/or HDMI inputs for the display. Only Apple requires you to buy their display when you want a mid-range Mac and furthermore only they make it so that you can't use the display for much of anything else.
post #66 of 154
I'm hanging for the new iMac, but badly need one now, argghh the dilemma...
post #67 of 154
The basic design convention of the iMac comes from the Apple Cinema Display introduced in 2005. If their is any similarity to any product of Dell, it's because Dell is copying Apple's design.

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The current iMac couldn't look any more "Dell-ish"
post #68 of 154
HDMI and component are audio/video ports, not computer ports.

The iMac is a computer not a television.

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Originally Posted by Phong View Post

But, frankly, the iMac could be improved by being a bit more Dell-ish in a few ways, such as having component and/or HDMI inputs for the display. Only Apple requires you to buy their display when you want a mid-range Mac and furthermore only they make it so that you can't use the display for much of anything else.
post #69 of 154
Little of what you said made sense, but I can respond to this statement.

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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The iMac is a computer not a television.

Not a single television sold today comes without multiple computer chips working on various audio and imaging functions. The distinction between television and computer displays today is completely nonexistent. They're all computer displays. Furthermore, all computers are audio/video systems.
post #70 of 154
All electronic gadgets have at least some basic form of microprocessing. That's about what they all have in common.

Their are obvious and clear differnces between a computer and a television. An iMac is not sitting in the middle of my entertainment system. My 42" HDTV is not sitting in my office running OS X and it's software.

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Little of what you said made sense, but I can respond to this statement.

Not a single television sold today comes without multiple computer chips working on various audio and imaging functions. The distinction between television and computer displays today is completely nonexistent. They're all computer displays. Furthermore, all computers are audio/video systems.
post #71 of 154
Most apple dealers in the u.k are out of stock on 24 inch imacs and only a few department stores have got the ones on display left.So could be sooner than later.
post #72 of 154
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Originally Posted by macxpress View Post

Say what????

That cheap black plastic on the back with the embossed Apple is pure "DELL".
post #73 of 154
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The basic design convention of the iMac comes from the Apple Cinema Display introduced in 2005. If their is any similarity to any product of Dell, it's because Dell is copying Apple's design.

The Apple Cinema display never had a cheap black back plastic with an embossed Apple- so Dell.
post #74 of 154
Will somebody please think of the CHILDREN? Why is nobody thinking of the CHILDREN!!

Edit:
Replace "CHILDREN" with GRAPHICS

WHY IS NOBODY THINKING ABOUT THE GRAPHICS? 9600GT 256MB IN ENTRY LEVEL IMAC COMEON APPLE PLEASSSSEE I don't want to have to build a PC just to play me games... Please please please
post #75 of 154
Now that .. that rant is out of the way, check out
http://www.macworld.com/article/1362...kgraphics.html

I seriously hope Apple does not have just a 9400M integrated in the new entry level 20" iMac ... Which means, they probably will ... The 9400M is no significant improvement from the ATI 2400XT 128MB.

Almost a year since the update of the iMac, the ATI 2400XT is old, old news, I hope they put a 9600GT in the *entry level* iMac. Sorry, but I couldn't give a flying frak about quad-core.
post #76 of 154
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Originally Posted by macxpress View Post

Letting the public know of updates hurts Apple's bottom line. If you were told today that new iMacs were coming out next month you'd wait until next month to get one right? Of course you would! The majority of others would do the same. So now, what does Apple do with the remaining old inventory? They either sell it off cheaply thus, not making as much money off it, or letting someone like overstock.com try and get rid of it which also would hurt Apple's bottom line. Yes there are people that will buy the old stock anyways between Apple's announcement of a new iMac and the day its actually introduced, but the majority of people would wait.

Plus it also gives Apple's competitors an opportunity to get a kick start on a competing product, possibly before Apple gets to release they're new/updated product.

As much as everyone hates it, this is not an uncommon practice by businesses. You don't see Chrysler telling you when the next Chrysler 300 will be out do you? You don't really know until its made available to order from the dealer.

I completely agree with you.

In the last 6 months we have heard rumors of the iPhone nano, Mac mini, iMacs etc... Its all rumors.

Apple wants to sell out old stock. Not warn people and then be stuck with it.


It may be true that new Macs are coming, duh the last refresh was almost a year ago for iMac, and years for everything else except the Macbooks.


I say in February a new iMac with Duo Core, nVidia card, FW800 and USB, LED displays, thinner all silver like the LED display today and bigger HD with Ram of 4 GB
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post #77 of 154
The newest ACD has a cheap white plastic back with an embossed Apple.

Exactly how do you equate plastic or embossed logos to Dell? Or do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

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The Apple Cinema display never had a cheap black back plastic with an embossed Apple- so Dell.
post #78 of 154
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Originally Posted by macxpress View Post

1. I don't see any reason to have a blu-ray drive on an iMac or any Mac for that reason. There isn't any software on blu-ray discs. Apple wants you to use the iTunes Store to obtain TV Shows, Movies, etc instead of buying them on blu-ray. For HD, they want you to get an AppleTV. Or you could use something else via the internet to get your HD fix.

Well a good reason would be to let the user either watch Blu-ray movies, or burn Blu-ray disks...

If Apple wanted you to buy a AppleTV to view HD movies/TV shows, then why don't they star selling one that supports it properly. No HD audio support on either, and only 720p video support, and more expensive than purchasing physical media. Also, at least with a Blu-ray disk I can purchased it from any number of countries, rather than being restricted by what Apple wants to sell me.
post #79 of 154
It's not that simple their are other factors to be considered.

Apple would have to license and implement the various layers of Blu-ray DRM. I doubt Apple is interested in more DRM in OS X.

Their are no BD drives that fit into the MacBooks and iMac.

BD storage is more expensive per GB than HD storage.

I cannot see Apple TV and iTunes movies being more expensive than a BD player and BD discs.



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Well a good reason would be to let the user either watch Blu-ray movies, or burn Blu-ray disks...

If Apple wanted you to buy a AppleTV to view HD movies/TV shows, then why don't they star selling one that supports it properly. No HD audio support on either, and only 720p video support, and more expensive than purchasing physical media. Also, at least with a Blu-ray disk I can purchased it from any number of countries, rather than being restricted by what Apple wants to sell me.
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It should be noted that should the iMacs adopt the Intel chips singled out by DigiTimes, it would mark a significant architectural shift for the desktop line, which has long relied on the same breed of mobile chips found in Apple's MacBook and MacBook Pro lines. The quad-core chips in question are true desktop-oriented processors with a higher thermal design point.


The Intel Core i7 quad-core desktop processors have been waiting for iMacs since last November 17, 2008. See:

- Intel unleashes Core i7, beats itself @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/40213/135/

- Core i7 PCs launch with prices from $1250 to $13,000 @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/40227/135/

- Intel Core i7 processor pricing @ http://files.shareholder.com/downloa..._1ku_Price.pdf


The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 65 nm CPU has been available for $266 since November 2007, and $224 since April 20, 2008, but was never used by Apple for the iMac because it was not a mobile processor (the iMac being a MacBook on a pedestal !!!). See:

- Intel releases sixteen new Penryn processors for servers and high-end @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34800/118/

- Intel to cut 65 nm quad-core processor prices for 45 nm @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36136/139/

- Intel drops second quad-core CPU into the mainstream @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37038/135/

- Have quad-core processors arrived in the mainstream? @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36548/135/

- Intel adds cheap dual-core, quad-core @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39135/135/

- Intel lowers CPU prices up to 48% on server, quads, duals and mobile @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41092/135/


Now that the quad-core desktop Core i7 CPU (code name: Nehalem) is available, fairly inexpensive and 20% more powerful than a quad-core Penryn desktop processor, it would be yet another mistake to delay the adoption of the Core i7 desktop processor in favor of a lower spec, previous generation Penryn quad-core processor for "all in one" computers. See:

- Intel to launch 65W desktop CPUs for all-in-one PCs @ http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/40267/139/


Top dollars go for the latest technology. We deserve no less. Core i7 it will be if Apple wants to grow its market share with a competitive desktop computer.

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