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post #1 of 50
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Enough of the mockups of products that'll never happen; let's talk what's most likely to actually come true. There's actually a few things out there which probably give us a few clues. My guesses:

16GB and 32GB models: something of a given, really; flash memory prices are still dropping, and Apple's habit ever since the first iPod nano has been to double capacity every year. It's the main reason I'll probably be upgrading my iPhone this year.

HSUPA 3G access: Infineon should have a new HSUPA chipset ready in time for an iPhone to use it, so that's what I'd expect. You'll get somewhat faster downloads, but the main deal is better uploads. Don't even think about HSPA+; there'll barely be any access points in 2009.

iPhone firmware 3.0: you know how background push notification still hasn't shown up yet? My hunch is that they're saving either that or true background apps for a major firmware revision to launch alongside the new iPhone. Hopefully there's also copy and paste as well as turn-by-turn GPS nav, but regardless, I get the feeling there'll be something big.

802.11n Wi-Fi, video chat, others: ...are big fat "maybes." HSUPA is better for video chat, but ideally you'd wait until the lower latency of 4G (LTE) to do it. There are mobile 802.11n Wi-Fi chips now, but it's a tossup as to whether or not Apple will have access to them.

And now it's your turn.
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Given their PA Semi developments, I'd expect custom designed multi-core ARM processors running faster than the current 400MHz.

Latest PowerVR graphics chip. New OS improvements as in Snow Leopard.

Ram doubled to 256MB, possibly more but I wouldn't expect over 512MB.

Hopefully a better camera. I don't know if this will be in software or hardware. The 2MPixel resolution is fine for me but the captures are terrible. I'd hope for an LED flash but they probably don't want to disrupt their oh-so-perfect design.

Video capture software built-in.

Tethering plan of some sort. I don't see why it can't be free though. All they need to do is offer limited bandwidth and data amount per day.

Turn by turn GPS.

Better battery life using their improved battery tech - hopefully so it won't die in just over an hour on 3G.

Improved software performance even for the older models so there is no lag when typing.
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Given their PA Semi developments, I'd expect custom designed multi-core ARM processors running faster than the current 400MHz.

Latest PowerVR graphics chip. New OS improvements as in Snow Leopard.

Ram doubled to 256MB, possibly more but I wouldn't expect over 512MB.

Hopefully a better camera. I don't know if this will be in software or hardware. The 2MPixel resolution is fine for me but the captures are terrible. I'd hope for an LED flash but they probably don't want to disrupt their oh-so-perfect design.

Video capture software built-in.

Tethering plan of some sort. I don't see why it can't be free though. All they need to do is offer limited bandwidth and data amount per day.

I wouldn't expect much from the PA Semi deal just yet; they haven't exactly had a lot of lead time. It may just be a faster off-the-shelf ARM chip.

PowerVR is more likely, and hopefully more RAM is too -- especially in the off-chance true background apps show.

The better camera may be a given too, come to think of it. Even if it's just a bump to a 3.2-megapixel sensor, it would do much. Apple also needs to think about autofocusing; video capture is still something of a battery hog.
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I agree I'm thinking that the iPhone of 2010 moves to a PA Semi sweetened multi core platform.

For now I'm thinking

32GB model- is a given. NAND flash density just doubled thanks to Intel and others. Expect a 64GB iPod Touch as well.

PowerVR SGX - another given. OpenGL ES 2.0 support and OpenCL support as well. Current games will run faster and games designed explicitely for OpenGL ES 2.0 will look and run better.

Better camera - with video capabilities is hopeful.

Bluetooth 2.1- Hopefully with Nearfield Communication and audio support.

Wifi - 802.11n is probably a given

Video out - I'd love to see it but it may be a long shot right now as DisplayPort, to my knowledge, has approved the Mobile Display Digital Interface (MDDI) which I assume Apple will use since their computer lineup is rapidly adopting DP.

New SDK - a given to support Push Notification and OpenGL ES 2.0 features and more.

AMOLED screen - longshot but i'd love to see Apple move to OLED technology.

Battery - I assume that better battery life will come and that the design of the 3rd gen iPhone will be more efficient componentwise.

RAM- double it.

That should suffice for 2009. I think the iPhone Gen 4 is going to be a barn burner.
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Check out what just got unveiled by SE at MWC. It's 12.1mp and is running on the new Symbian Foundation OS. 3.5 inch WVGA screen.....It will be officially announced before the Summer but is heavily rumored to be running on the OMAP 3rd gen chipsets meaning it can support HD video capture too. I would go as far as to predict that SE will incorporate something similar to the cover flow style feature seen on the new walkman x series. If this does happen then this is surley a real threat to iphone in it's current state.

I hope Apple bump up the specs big time in their next phone starting with the camera. Samsung are going to announce a 3.8inch touch screen that records HD this week too.

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Originally Posted by Commodus View Post

I wouldn't expect much from the PA Semi deal just yet; they haven't exactly had a lot of lead time. It may just be a faster off-the-shelf ARM chip.

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I agree I'm thinking that the iPhone of 2010 moves to a PA Semi sweetened multi core platform.

With the multi-core ARM Cortex A9 in 2010 and Apple's yearly upgrade cycle, I think leaving multi-core that late would leave them behind the competition. The Palm Pre will have the Cortex A8 and Apple would only match that without a custom chip, although their OS may squeeze more out of it.

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it can support HD video capture too

I think it would be great if the iphone could do that but I think they need to redesign the case for video capture. I find the iphone very difficult to hold taking photos and have nearly dropped it on a few occasions. The edges are just a bit too thin.
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Marvin check out the video in the other thread I just made and tell me Apple can still sit comfy with just their UI and ignoring other specs. I love my iphone but I won't hesitate to ditch it if they only add a few minor things.
post #8 of 50
Sounds good, I'll take two. These upgrades mentioned all sound exciting. I have simply been waiting to buy one. I have been waiting for several things since rev 1... It's really improved since the first! I just don't think I'll be able to wait any longer after the rev 4! I want to buy one this spring or sometime this year and I'd mostly like to know when they're releasing the new one. Video capture, better UI and stronger processor and memory specs would be cool, but frankly whatever it is I'm getting two! I just want to know when!

Also, what do people think about absolutely no physical buttons, even a Send button so you can just whip out your phone and hit it to call who you called last? (Let's say you mostly call one person, like, say, your wife.) How many clicks does it take to just do that? Do users here wish it had buttons? Does anyone think they'll add them? I've always wondered about this...thinking maybe they should have just a few buttons.
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Marvin check out the video in the other thread I just made and tell me Apple can still sit comfy with just their UI and ignoring other specs. I love my iphone but I won't hesitate to ditch it if they only add a few minor things.

That phone looks like it might use resistive touch but I agree I don't think Apple can get away with minor updates now that the market is becoming so much more competitive. Hopefully their revision numbers really do point to a major update: rev 2,1 instead of 1,2 for the 3G model.

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Also, what do people think about absolutely no physical buttons, even a Send button so you can just whip out your phone and hit it to call who you called last? (Let's say you mostly call one person, like, say, your wife.) How many clicks does it take to just do that? Do users here wish it had buttons? Does anyone think they'll add them? I've always wondered about this...thinking maybe they should have just a few buttons.

I thought I would miss more buttons but not that much. The transitions annoy me a bit as they are far too slow. When you see the older Blackberries zip through menus, you realize how slow the iphone is for navigation.

The answer button is fine because when someone calls, the screen lights up with a big answer button immediately. But quickly going to call someone, you have to slide to unlock first, then hit the contacts shortcut and then switch to contacts tab if you aren't on it, scroll to the name (there is a list of letters to quick-jump to the right one), select it and hit the right number.

There aren't speed dial presets but people have made 3rd party apps that let you do it and even put a picture of your beloved on the icon. You can use webclips to do dialling too but the 3rd party apps are easier.
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...Video capture, better UI and stronger processor and memory specs would be cool, but frankly whatever it is I'm getting two! I just want to know when!

I'm with you. I am probably sold on the next model whatever it has, though I am hoping for more, faster and better.
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There aren't speed dial presets but people have made 3rd party apps that let you do it and even put a picture of your beloved on the icon. You can use webclips to do dialling too but the 3rd party apps are easier.

Actually you don't need 3rd party Apps, a speed dial is built in.

Once you slide to open the main menu a double press of the single button brings up the 'Favorites' list, tap the one you want to call, you can even choose which number to use for contacts with multiple numbers.
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Want! Better! Battery! Far better!!!! ("pas contents! pas contents!")

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Actually you don't need 3rd party Apps, a speed dial is built in.
Once you slide to open the main menu a double press of the single button brings up the 'Favorites' list, tap the one you want to call, you can even choose which number to use for contacts with multiple numbers.

I wouldn't second this... That finger dance is still too complex and time consuming. Emergency calls do need single big red button. I took "112" application myself. It would be nice though to have only one monstrous red button centered on the first page of applications...

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post #14 of 50
I hope the next iPhone has the following:

1) An easily replaceable battery. I HATE what Apple is doing with these hard wired batteries. I'm never going to buy one until this is changed.
2) Built in Wi-Fi.
2a) An option with AT&T to buy the phone on a regular phone plan. Paying 70 bucks a month for data is ridiculous. If you need data and don't have wi-fi, then there should be an option on the phone to temporarily get connected to data if you need it.
3) GPS that works with satellites.
4) The option to connect an external keyboard to the iPhone along with the ability of the iPhone to drive an external monitor.
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I hope the next iPhone has the following:

1) An easily replaceable battery. I HATE what Apple is doing with these hard wired batteries. I'm never going to buy one until this is changed.
2) Built in Wi-Fi.
2a) An option with AT&T to buy the phone on a regular phone plan. Paying 70 bucks a month for data is ridiculous. If you need data and don't have wi-fi, then there should be an option on the phone to temporarily get connected to data if you need it.
3) GPS that works with satellites.
4) The option to connect an external keyboard to the iPhone along with the ability of the iPhone to drive an external monitor.

1) they're technically not hard-wired anyways, the battery uses contact connection if i remember correctly. the only problem is the casing on the outside.

2) it already has wifi (since you mention it in 2a, i think you were confused for a second)

2a) you can get it with a regular plan, just swap the sim card from your old phone, though you wanna be careful. I do agree that, not only at&t, but all the carriers like to jack up prices on the rate plan for their most prominent phones.

3) it does, aGPS is faster anyways. Read the introductory sentence to this article. Assisted GPS still uses satellites, it also uses data coverage to speed up data connections. so it's BETTER than GPS that works only with satellites.

4) i'm not sure i would ever use a phone connected a monitor, but maybe?
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Which phone currently uses a far better battery?

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Want! Better! Battery! Far better!!!! ("pas contents! pas contents!")
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Originally Posted by sc_markt View Post

I hope the next iPhone has the following:

1) An easily replaceable battery. I HATE what Apple is doing with these hard wired batteries. I'm never going to buy one until this is changed.

The iPod has always had an integrated battery. The chances of this changing are zero. If the integrated battery already blocks you from buying an iPhone, theirs no reason for you to wish anything else for it.

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2) Built in Wi-Fi.

Already has Wi-Fi.

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2a) An option with AT&T to buy the phone on a regular phone plan. Paying 70 bucks a month for data is ridiculous. If you need data and don't have wi-fi, then there should be an option on the phone to temporarily get connected to data if you need it.

Its not worth it for AT&T to pay the steep cost of subsidizing the iPhone if they cannot make money from data subscriptions.

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3) GPS that works with satellites.

Assisted GPS uses satellites. The satellite signals are too weak and too easily blocked for the phone to gain a quick and accurate location fix in all situations. Assisted GPS helps makes the location fix faster and more accurate.

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4) The option to connect an external keyboard to the iPhone along with the ability of the iPhone to drive an external monitor.

These two are largely unnecessary. Most people would not care to connect their phone to a monitor or keyboard.
post #18 of 50
I posted the link in another thread but given Nvidia's links with Apple these days and OpenCL, what are the chances the next iphone could be something like this:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/17/n...d-pumping-out/

They'll have to match it if competitors will be using it anyway.
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Which phone currently uses a far better battery?

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In my experience iphone has the best battery of any phone.

Question to all:

What are the chances Apple will up the megapixels for the camera on board the next iphone? There was something on macrumors the other day that predicted it would have video but the same 2mp cam. I really hope this is not the case.
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In my experience iphone has the best battery of any phone.

And my biggest disappointment about iphone is its battery. I haven't changed my habits since having been using e61. My demands are always extremely reduced. Some minutes of internet to load a book, some hours of reading that loaded book, approx. 1 hour of video per day, local video from ipod, not youtube, some minutes of voice calls.
I never paid any attention to nokia's charge more oftenly than once every 3 days, I'd rather say 4 days... How on the earth does all that come to drain iphone's battery in only 2 days and sometimes in only one single day???
Yes, guys, I took already all precautions, wifi is constantly off, email push is off, only one account is updated, 3g is on, sorry, Apple, I bought iphone 3g to benefit from it...
And I'm undoubtedly not lone with my battery claims... Why then did battery extenders for iphone 3g come on the next day after the phone itself had arrived...

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post #22 of 50
I agree one of the biggest problems with the iPhone is the battery. I love how they didn't put 3G into the original one because it used too much power... Yet somehow that same logic didn't apply to the massive battery draining screen!
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It is not the display who eats iphone's battery most aggressively. We all used to blame screens. Apple introduced that brightness flip-flop in 2.2.1. Missed! It's 3g chip and the processor itself! Folks around tell me wifi is even worse, than 3g, but I don't use it, I can not say...

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It is not the display who eats iphone's battery most aggressively. We all used to blame screens. Apple introduced that brightness flip-flop in 2.2.1. Missed! It's 3g chip and the processor itself! Folks around tell me wifi is even worse, than 3g, but I don't use it, I can not say...

This is true, I thought the screen would drain a lot but it really doesn't. I can have my screen up full brightness for 6 hours or something. Start using 3G or wifi though and the battery drains very rapidly. Even 3D gaming doesn't drain the battery as quickly.

Someone needs to make better network technology.
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Nokia makes a lot of phones, which phone are you talking about?

Here is a comparison between the iPhone 3G and N96.

Battery Life
Nokia N96: Close to four hours' talk time, stand-by is 220 hours, video playback is five hours, music playback 14 hours.
iPhone 3G: Up to five hours of talk time using 3G, or 10 hours using 2G, standby is 300 hours, five hours of 3G internet use and six hours of Wi-Fi internet use, seven hours of video playback and up to 24 hours of audio playback.




Another list of battery life comparison.




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Wi-Fi is a short range network technology, while 3G is a long range network technology. Wi-Fi is faster and much more energy efficient than 3G or EDGE.



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It is not the display who eats iphone's battery most aggressively. We all used to blame screens. Apple introduced that brightness flip-flop in 2.2.1. Missed! It's 3g chip and the processor itself! Folks around tell me wifi is even worse, than 3g, but I don't use it, I can not say...
post #27 of 50
Things I would like to see in possible iPhone 2009 (I say possible, because I imagine it is all speculation, isn't it??

Apart from all the technical stuff, which most of it I don't understand....., these are the things that might make me buy the next-gen iPhone:

1- better battery life (I know, I know.... already one of the best in the market.... but still pretty poor.....)
2- Better camera and video recording even better....
3- VOICE CALLING/DIALING!!!!! (so you can use easily hands-free car kits, etc.... (just got installed a new Parrot CK3000, but can only use it hands free for receiving calls, not for calling, as can't pass contacts, etc... into Parrot..... Tried sending vCards through iMac, etc... Still nothing....Really bugging me!!!!!). Really unbelievable Apple is not adding this feature.... (probably only software update, I think....)
4-better 3G
5-proper GPS
6- and all the things that you say above!! haha

Please Apple!! Put Voice calling/dialing soon!!!!! (as software update or on new iphone..... PLEASE!!!!)
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1- better battery life (I know, I know.... already one of the best in the market.... but still pretty poor.....)

The battery life isn't because of the battery, its because of 3G.

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4-better 3G

What do you mean by better 3G?

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5-proper GPS

Their isn't really such a thing as proper GPS. When GPS was originally designed it wasn't really intended to do what we have it doing.

An article that explains how GPS works, Inside assisted GPS: helping GPS help you
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The battery life isn't because of the battery, its because of 3G.

If they made the battery bigger, battery life would be longer! Certainly the iPhone 3G has had the worst battery life for web browsing out of all the 3G phones I've had. So it's not just the 3G part causing the problem since other 3G phones can last much longer!
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This is true, I thought the screen would drain a lot but it really doesn't. I can have my screen up full brightness for 6 hours or something. Start using 3G or wifi though and the battery drains very rapidly. Even 3D gaming doesn't drain the battery as quickly.Someone needs to make better network technology.

Thanks for supporting my point. I'd just be quite curious to listen to radio h/w guys to understand, why is 3g so gourmand...

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Nokia makes a lot of phones, which phone are you talking about? Here is a comparison between the iPhone 3G and N96.

E61 did much (2x) better in my experience. I know, E61 is not exactly the challenger to iphone, N96 is. But from the customer point of view I keep doing all the same things on both phones. Why then should I care to recharge iphone on Tuesday, if nokia got used to chirp by only Thursday??
The friend of mine is now rushing to have N96, we'll see how's all that gonna happen in wildlife with it... I can't say it right out of here...

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Wi-Fi is ... much more energy efficient than 3G or EDGE

Good to know. Thanks. Still, I'm not accustomed to, I'm in country and not using wifi at all...

There goes my forecast
Apple will in all probability fix the battery (or whatever actually cripples it) in coming years/releases. They're already trying (by wrong ineffective moves, though).
Then I guarantee you I will say: "IPhone? That's indisputably perfect, superior to everything else on the market. Why even bring it up? Simply Apple."

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I wrote a post on my blog about this a few weeks ago here is a list of features apple could add right now with firmware

* MMS picture messaging I can see apples view on this on why not just e-mail them
* Cut and Paste
* Better recognition of caps mode - For example, when typing two or three consecutive upper case letters, enable caps until end-of-word character is pressed.

* Better Bluetooth support -file transfer, keyboards, mice, stereo headsets.
* Transmit your contact card - To another iPhone user, just to annoy Palm
* Tether support - To let you access the Internet over EDGE / 3G on your laptop
* A mode that forces ALL calls into voicemail. That lets you leave the phone on.
* Store file That lets you store pdf and doc etc
* Ability to save other attachments - To a Documents folder, or a folder of your choice.
* Voice recording. As a standard feature, it would also be nice to be able to record calls
* Option to make the entire surface the button for taking pictures.
* Ability to create, manage a MobileMe gallery from iPhone itself, including syncing of new pictures up/down to iPhone.
* Background application support for twitter and such like
* RSS Reader with background support

These cover the features that in my opinion require immediate attention and could be resolved with a software update and I am sure would result in increased iPhone sales.



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Why isn't there more talk about Nvidia Tegra?

It all makes sense with Apple linking up with Nvidia for everything else, Tegra is ideal to take the iphone to the next level.

It can do HD recording as well as playback so think of the camera suddenly getting a lot better. Kind of like adding a Flip Mino to the iphone.

Outputting Quake 3 at 720p shows the gaming ability and this goes back to the iphone putting in experimental games output on a TV as well as adding a premium app store section.

10 hours of high def video playback - another marketing win.

We know that Palm is going for Arm Cortex and PowerVR. Judging by the laughable performance of their map software recently demoed, Apple have nothing to worry about but Tegra would ensure that it's sufficiently advanced that the Pre launch will be like a kid peeing in the ocean. No one will even notice, except for the guy snorkelling nearby.
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Higher/wide screen resolution, higher than 640x360 (which seems to be the limit of Symbian), preferably 800x480 (to match the best WinMo devices without WinMo's current 65k colour restriction).

This is something which would make it very competitive with the best.

It might make the phone a bit longer but that would let Apple put in a bigger battery.
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Why isn't there more talk about Nvidia Tegra?

It all makes sense with Apple linking up with Nvidia for everything else, Tegra is ideal to take the iphone to the next level.

It can do HD recording as well as playback so think of the camera suddenly getting a lot better. Kind of like adding a Flip Mino to the iphone.

Outputting Quake 3 at 720p shows the gaming ability and this goes back to the iphone putting in experimental games output on a TV as well as adding a premium app store section.

10 hours of high def video playback - another marketing win.

We know that Palm is going for Arm Cortex and PowerVR. Judging by the laughable performance of their map software recently demoed, Apple have nothing to worry about but Tegra would ensure that it's sufficiently advanced that the Pre launch will be like a kid peeing in the ocean. No one will even notice, except for the guy snorkelling nearby.

That would be great.
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Ok so this will be about my 4th or 5th list I've made out of all the forums and blogs I post on but they are fun so why not another right?

(The Hopes and Dreams List

(1) More RAM. 256? 512? I don't really care as long as it's more and keeps Safari from crashing and aids in running apps faster and smoother.

(2) Faster Processor. A8? Tegra? Moorestown? More Power, More Speed.

(3) Longer-Lasting Battery. Even if it is the best, MORE is always better.

(4) More Storage. 32GB, 64GB?

(5) Larger Touch Screen. I won't argue on resolution support but I think there is plenty of room for expansion in the current form factor, maybe as much as an inch, well, length-wise anyways. Dare I say wider and longer? (Screen)

(6) Better Camera. Again, no arguments from me on MP's to Sensors, yadda yadda, but just better quality, maybe a zoom (internal 3x optical?). Flash? To solve most of those low-lighting situations.

(7) Video Recording. HD recording/playback. Flip Mino cometition. Upload direct to YouTube.

(8) Front-Facing Camera. Video Chat. Self Portraits/Videos.

(9) Better Build Material. Or at-least better shell backing. Aluminum/Plastic Combo. Matte Rubbery Metal. THICKER Plastic. Ceramics. Carbon Fiber. T!tanium. Something that isnt going to crack as easily as some have had countless problems with.

(10) Keep it under 300 bucks.

(More REALISTIC List

(1) See 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9 and 10 above.

I've been waiting since V.1 to get an iPhone. I'll be getting one after WWDC '09.

List are fun and all but I'm keeping expectations low for this rumored NEW phone due out this summer. I would advise not setting up for dissapointment.
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(3) Longer-Lasting Battery. Even if it is the best, MORE is always better.

The best?! The iPhone 3G battery life totally stinks in comparison to other phones! It should be brought into line with other devices before they try to make it better!
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The best?! The iPhone 3G battery life totally stinks in comparison to other phones! It should be brought into line with other devices before they try to make it better!

I have tried them with plenty of S60 and WM devices if that is what you are referring to and they are all rubbish in this respect compared to iphone.
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Nokia's E61/71 - 1500 mAh -- CPU 220 MHz ARM processor (E61i)
iPhone 3G - 1150 mAh(1400mAh?) -- CPU 620 MHz ARM 1176, underclocked to 412 MHz
Nokia N96 - 950 mAh -- CPU 264 MHz Dual ARM 9, with video accelerator

We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

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We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

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post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

I have tried them with plenty of S60 and WM devices if that is what you are referring to and they are all rubbish in this respect compared to iphone.

N95-8GB and E71 easily outlast the Iphone 3G
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Oh, forgot..... and uncapped/unblocked Bluetooth!! So it can be used as any other mobile....
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