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The number of digital storefronts reflecting availability of Apple's high-end iMac configuration is dwindling this week in yet another sign that long-overdue updates to the all-in-one desktop line may be inching their way closer to market.

We picked up on the trend while making routine updates to our Mac Price Guide (also below) throughout the week. Having been dropped from MacConnection's catalog a bit earlier in the year, the 3.06GHz model more recently saw its availability run dry at several other resellers, namely MacMall, OnSale, and ClubMac.

Around the same time, Apple pushed lead times for the system out to 2 to 4 days, from 1 to 2 days, on its U.S.-based online store. The minimum wait is a bit longer at some of the company's international shops like those in Canada, France and Japan.

While these slight delays happen from time to time, more telling may be the model's absolute removal from Amazon.com's product catalog sometime in the past 48 hours. The retailer's product page for the system is now a dead end, meaning it has likely been yanked from the retailer's database of products permanently.

Amazon, which is believed to be one of the largest -- if not the largest -- online Mac resellers by volume, traditionally does not remove product entries due to lack of inventory, but rather when the product has reached the end of its life. Although new searchs for the 3.06GHz iMac on Amazon still turn up a couple of results, those systems are being offered through the retailer's affiliates and are not stocked by Amazon.

These oddities come just weeks after it was reported that Apple had advised some of its sales partners that supply of iMacs would grow constrained in the weeks that would follow. In particular, the 3.06GHz iMac was singled out as a model that was unlikely to see further production.

We put in some calls to various resellers reflecting no stock of the high-end config and were told in some cases that Apple had indicated fresh stock of iMacs would arrive sometime next week. Should those deliveries not pan out or not include the 3.06GHz model, it would be seen as a further sign that the much-anticipated NVIDIA-based iMacs with Mini DisplayPorts are on their way.

Also expected in the near term are updates to the Mac mini and Mac Pro. Expectations for each of these revisions are archived in full and in descending order by date on their respective topics pages: iMac, Mac mini, Mac Pro.

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Amazon shows them in stock right now... and from Amazon, not from and affiliate store.
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Amazon shows them in stock right now... and from Amazon, not from and affiliate store.

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Availability of Apple's high-end iMac starting to fade

THANK GOD! FINALLY.
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I'm holding off on buying a Mac Mini (as a backup to our Macbook) until a refresh.
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Waiting for the Mac mini update please.
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I hope they keep the 20". I have a 20" core solo which I want to update but since I use it at the eating bar in the kitchen I don't want anything larger than 20.

I'll probably end up just tossing my current core solo once I upgrade since a couple of months ago it fell off the counter, landed on the tile floor and ended up with a crack across the screen. Other than the slight hairline crack it still works great, just a little slow.

I'd sell it on Craig's but then I'd have to spend hours deleting everything and have strangers come over to the house to look at it. I'd rather just destroy it. Yet you are 'supposed' to take it to the recycling center instead of tossing it in the bin. I guess it is worth an hour of my time to help save the planet.

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I still wouldn't expect to see anything new before end of March at the earliest. We've previously seen top end kit have 2-3 weeks of no availability before a refresh appears.

Really keen on seeing a mac mini update though. Didn't get a Chrissy pressy cos I thought it would be updated earlier.

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I hope they keep the 20". I have a 20" core solo which I want to update but since I use it at the eating bar in the kitchen I don't want anything larger than 20.

I'll probably end up just tossing my current core solo once I upgrade since a couple of months ago it fell off the counter, landed on the tile floor and ended up with a crack across the screen. Other than the slight hairline crack it still works great, just a little slow.

I'd sell it on Craig's but then I'd have to spend hours deleting everything and have strangers come over to the house to look at it. I'd rather just destroy it. Yet you are 'supposed' to take it to the recycling center instead of tossing it in the bin. I guess it is worth an hour of my time to help save the planet.

wow!

really? its too much trouble for you to put in the install disc wipe the HD and do a fresh install, that the Mac actually pretty much does itself.
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Okay, AI, can we just agree NOT to use the term "long-overdue" unless it pertains to the Mac Mini? There has never in the history of Apple been a product so long-overdue as the Mac Mini.

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I still wouldn't expect to see anything new before end of March at the earliest. We've previously seen top end kit have 2-3 weeks of no availability before a refresh

I agree, but think we'll have a Special Event hosted by Cook in the halls of 1 Infinite Loop within the first 2 weeks of March. At least 5 days will needed for press.
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Okay, AI, can we just agree NOT to use the term "long-overdue" unless it pertains to the Mac Mini? There has never in the history of Apple been a product so long-overdue as the Mac Mini.

There can be more than one item that is long overdue. No one denies that the Mini is the longest overdue, but Apple's other desktops have gone an unprecendented duration between their rekative refreshes.
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...desktops have gone an unprecendented duration between their rekative refreshes.

Lets not forget the 500mhz g4 tower.
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I agree, but think we'll have a Special Event hosted by Cook in the halls of 1 Infinite Loop within the first 2 weeks of March. At least 5 days will needed for press.

March 10th?
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There can be more than one item that is long overdue. No one denies that the Mini is the longest overdue, but Apple's other desktops have gone an unprecendented duration between their rekative refreshes.

Then perhaps "long-overdue" when used to describe anything other than the Mac Mini should be followed with the caveat: "(not nearly as epically, mind-bogglingly, inconceivably overdue as the Mac Mini)"

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I love Apple's computers, I really do, I switched 5 years ago, but I love my PC games too and Apples (they're taking the piss now) long overdue system update has had me looking at building a custom based PC and using my MacBook as my other machine.

I wanted a new iMac to replace my ageing 17" core2duo but with the weakening pound which is pushing up the prices in the UK and the sloppy upgrade cycle i'm in between a rock & a hard place.
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After being reprimanded ( ), I re-read the original post. I found only the 3 lower models a Amazon... the 3.06 is, as you said, absent. My bad.
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Amazon, which is believed to be one of the largest -- if not the largest -- online Mac resellers by volume, traditionally does not remove product entries due to lack of inventory, but rather when the product has reached the end of its life. Although new searchs for the 3.06GHz iMac on Amazon still turn up a couple of results, those systems are being offered through the retailer's affiliates and are not stocked by Amazon.

These oddities come just weeks after it was reported that Apple had advised some of its sales partners that supply of iMacs would grow constrained in the weeks that would follow. In particular, the 3.06GHz iMac was singled out as a model that was unlikely to see further production.

What I wonder is if they are going to stick to dual core chips, then what's the hold up? Also, what chips would they subsequently use? Intel haven't brought out any major improvements over what they already use on the mobile end, nor have the prices dropped.

If they stick in new Nvidia graphics chips and the same displays then it's going to be a pretty minor refresh. They could do a redesign but still, no reason to wait this long.

I still reckon low power Core 2 Quad desktop chips and all 24-inch models that look like the Cinema display and the Mini matches the Macbook spec in the current Mini enclosure but with new ports as shown in the video.

There are currently no reasons for holding out on refreshes as all the chips they need to use whatever they do on the consumer end are available.

If there's going to be a press event, they'll try and squeeze the updates together though as the Nehalem Pro is the big update and the Mac Pro chips won't be out until possibly late next month. They could just put the update online though and have a 2 week shipping time or something. They must realize how fed up people are waiting on them.
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I agree, but think we'll have a Special Event hosted by Cook in the halls of 1 Infinite Loop within the first 2 weeks of March. At least 5 days will needed for press.

I have a sneeking suspicion that it coincides with Steve Wozniak appearing on Dancing with the Stars- March 8th.
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What I wonder is if they are going to stick to dual core chips, then what's the hold up? Also, what chips would they subsequently use? Intel haven't brought out any major improvements over what they already use on the mobile end, nor have the prices dropped.

If they stick in new Nvidia graphics chips and the same displays then it's going to be a pretty minor refresh. They could do a redesign but still, no reason to wait this long.

I still reckon low power Core 2 Quad desktop chips and all 24-inch models that look like the Cinema display and the Mini matches the Macbook spec in the current Mini enclosure but with new ports as shown in the video.

There are currently no reasons for holding out on refreshes as all the chips they need to use whatever they do on the consumer end are available.

If there's going to be a press event, they'll try and squeeze the updates together though as the Nehalem Pro is the big update and the Mac Pro chips won't be out until possibly late next month. They could just put the update online though and have a 2 week shipping time or something. They must realize how fed up people are waiting on them.

That is a well thought-out comment, and I think that is the true cause of the delay in refresh. It makes no sense for this amount of time, unless there was going to be a major overhaul of the system. The NVidia upgrade isn't that much of an overhaul. However, a switch from Duo to Quad, now THAT is an upgrade!!
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I have a sneeking suspicion that it coincides with Steve Wozniak appearing on Dancing with the Stars- March 8th.

I have a sneaking suspicion that he will be the first to go home this season.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that Woz will make a play for more "face time" by joining other shows like VH-1's Celebirty Fit Club or The Surreal Life.

Though it would be great if they made an original show for him. Since he engagement to Carrot Top fizzled, perhaps he could have Tech of Love or Woz of Love, in the vein of Flavor of Love and Rock of Love. He is worth considerably more than Brett Michaels and Flavor Flav have ever had and put together, so finding him plenty of attractive women to fight for him shouldn't be too difficult.
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And I hope it is true. Not currently in the iMac market but this would make room for other releases.

Even stranger is that if the hardware is released in the next week or two Apple will have kept a very tght lid on the new machine. There have been virtually zero leaks as to what is coming. It is like they imlemented a new level of security.


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post #24 of 53
same sitation in Germany at apple.de and the reseller gravis.de - no 3,06 iMac...
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sorry, not apple.de but amazon.de
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The age of Dual Core processors is going away, it is now time for Quad processors is here and Apple needs to jump on that train. Core 2s can only last you so long no matter how much cache they can manage to squeeze into the processor.

iMac with a Quad Core configuration with a better cooling system would be the ideal consumer machine if offered for the same price.
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I hope they keep the 20". I have a 20" core solo which I want to update but since I use it at the eating bar in the kitchen I don't want anything larger than 20.

I'll probably end up just tossing my current core solo once I upgrade since a couple of months ago it fell off the counter, landed on the tile floor and ended up with a crack across the screen. Other than the slight hairline crack it still works great, just a little slow.

I'd sell it on Craig's but then I'd have to spend hours deleting everything and have strangers come over to the house to look at it. I'd rather just destroy it. Yet you are 'supposed' to take it to the recycling center instead of tossing it in the bin. I guess it is worth an hour of my time to help save the planet.

Shhh... you are swearing in church! Besides, what are you TALKING ABOUT just destroy it? Give it to some poor soul who doesn't have a computer. It'll make you feel great. Bring a smile to someone's face.
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Even stranger is that if the hardware is released in the next week or two Apple will have kept a very tght lid on the new machine. There have been virtually zero leaks as to what is coming. It is like they imlemented a new level of security.

Coincidentally there have been no leaks ever since Jobs hasn't been at the company.

Looks like they've found the mole.

No wonder he's had his communication with certain online buddies cut off. He's been blabbing to his Silicon Valley friends all this time.
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Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post

Okay, AI, can we just agree NOT to use the term "long-overdue" unless it pertains to the Mac Mini? There has never in the history of Apple been a product so long-overdue as the Mac Mini.

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What I wonder is if they are going to stick to dual core chips, then what's the hold up? Also, what chips would they subsequently use? Intel haven't brought out any major improvements over what they already use on the mobile end, nor have the prices dropped.

If they stick in new Nvidia graphics chips and the same displays then it's going to be a pretty minor refresh. They could do a redesign but still, no reason to wait this long.

I still reckon low power Core 2 Quad desktop chips and all 24-inch models that look like the Cinema display and the Mini matches the Macbook spec in the current Mini enclosure but with new ports as shown in the video.

There are currently no reasons for holding out on refreshes as all the chips they need to use whatever they do on the consumer end are available.

If there's going to be a press event, they'll try and squeeze the updates together though as the Nehalem Pro is the big update and the Mac Pro chips won't be out until possibly late next month. They could just put the update online though and have a 2 week shipping time or something. They must realize how fed up people are waiting on them.

It appears they skipped a generation with the iMac - no Santa Rosa, no DDR3 Ram, no LED monitors, etc. You would have thought Apple would have simply updated the iMac when the new MacBook Pros came out. Since they didn't, they maybe are waiting for newer chips? I hope it's not tied up with the fighting between Intel and Nvidia about the Core i7 integrated chipsets - that would be a big bummer if Apple had to release a compromise iMac, or just keep waiting.
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For the people who REALLY follow this stuff, what price will the $1199 entry-level iMac probably go for in Apple.com's clearance section once the new generation is released? I can't remember what kind of discount Apple generally gives.
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Imac 3.06 was NEVER sold on Amazon.com, it was an apple.com "exclusive". I called amazon 2 months back wondering why they had all the other Imacs and not the 3.06 (because I want amazon's visa points) and they said amazon NEVER had and NEVER will sell the Imac 3.06 due to it being an exclusive on apple's website. So I have no idea where this information about amazon sold 3.06 came from in the first place...
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For the people who REALLY follow this stuff, what price will the $1199 entry-level iMac probably go for in Apple.com's clearance section once the new generation is released? I can't remember what kind of discount Apple generally gives.

One just barely large enough to woo you away from the brand new machines, that's for damned sure.
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I hope they keep the 20". I have a 20" core solo which I want to update but since I use it at the eating bar in the kitchen I don't want anything larger than 20.

I'll probably end up just tossing my current core solo once I upgrade since a couple of months ago it fell off the counter, landed on the tile floor and ended up with a crack across the screen. Other than the slight hairline crack it still works great, just a little slow.

I'd sell it on Craig's but then I'd have to spend hours deleting everything and have strangers come over to the house to look at it. I'd rather just destroy it. Yet you are 'supposed' to take it to the recycling center instead of tossing it in the bin. I guess it is worth an hour of my time to help save the planet.

core solo? The first intel iMac had a core duo...

But hey, if you want to get rid of your computer I'd gladly take/buy it. I've been looking for an iMac for my grandpa.
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i hope they wait another 2 or more months... i want to buy one in august and i want it to still be pretty fresh by then.
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Coincidentally there have been no leaks ever since Jobs hasn't been at the company.

That would be funny but I don't like the fact that Apple is getting better with it's security. Part of the fun in following these forums is seeing who comes closest to describing what Apple has up it's sleeves. The new Nvidia chip due out next week is interesting in the fact that nobody until today has even mentioned that it might go into an iMac.

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Looks like they've found the mole.

Looks like he will have to fire himself.
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No wonder he's had his communication with certain online buddies cut off. He's been blabbing to his Silicon Valley friends all this time.

Considering is skills in showmanship I would not be surprised to find out that he indeed was working the media, either directly or via a trusted executive. It certainly has proven to be effective in the past, that is the rumor mill.
post #37 of 53
So, only iMac update mid-march...? Any hope to see a Mac Mini bundle with screen and keyboard at decent price? What about a new mouse for all desktop systems??
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It appears they skipped a generation with the iMac - no Santa Rosa, no DDR3 Ram, no LED monitors, etc.

They have Santa Rosa and Penryn chips, they're just not common chips that show up in Intel's price lists etc. DDR3 Ram doesn't give much real world advantage over DDR2. LED displays are the only significant upgrade and even then it's aesthetics that a lot of consumers won't be too bothered about. The iMac displays usually have pretty even backlighting as it is.

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I hope it's not tied up with the fighting between Intel and Nvidia about the Core i7 integrated chipsets - that would be a big bummer if Apple had to release a compromise iMac, or just keep waiting.

The iMacs won't use Nehalem so it's not holding them back and I don't think it matters for the Mac Pro as I'm pretty sure Nvidia don't even make chipsets compatible with the Xeons.

Basically:
Mini = Nvidia chipset + Pernyn dual core = no problem, could have been updated already but Apple won't update it before the iMac
iMac = Nvidia chipset + possible Core 2 Quad = slight problem as chips they might have used were only available since Feb 23rd (5 days ago)
Mac Pro = Intel chipset + Xeon Nehalem (Gainestown) = chips not out yet - supposedly these come out in the last week of Q1:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...11717&Itemid=1

It just seems a bit of a coincidence that Snow Leopard was rumored to be coming out then too. I know that June is a much more likely venue and timeframe for Snow Leopard but an 8-core Mac Pro Nehalem will actually show up as a 16-core machine. I think they will need to ship it with Snow leopard in order for it to perform at its best.

If they ship it with SL, then they have to ship it with the others too. As I say, this ties in with the whole Nvidia overhaul. Laptop owners have had their updates for a few months now so having to buy SL shouldn't be a huge issue. If Apple release the hardware in March and expect people to pay for SL in June then it's not so good.

I really hope that Apple don't hold out until the end of March for the press event though. They just need to demo the hardware with SL and say it will be shipping in a week or two. I guess they will want to make the statement of 'shipping today' but at this stage, I don't think it's important.
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They have Santa Rosa and Penryn chips, they're just not common chips that show up in Intel's price lists etc. DDR3 Ram doesn't give much real world advantage over DDR2. LED displays are the only significant upgrade and even then it's aesthetics that a lot of consumers won't be too bothered about. The iMac displays usually have pretty even backlighting as it is.



The iMacs won't use Nehalem so it's not holding them back and I don't think it matters for the Mac Pro as I'm pretty sure Nvidia don't even make chipsets compatible with the Xeons.

Basically:
Mini = Nvidia chipset + Pernyn dual core = no problem, could have been updated already but Apple won't update it before the iMac
iMac = Nvidia chipset + possible Core 2 Quad = slight problem as chips they might have used were only available since Feb 23rd (5 days ago)
Mac Pro = Intel chipset + Xeon Nehalem (Gainestown) = chips not out yet - supposedly these come out in the last week of Q1:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...11717&Itemid=1

It just seems a bit of a coincidence that Snow Leopard was rumored to be coming out then too. I know that June is a much more likely venue and timeframe for Snow Leopard but an 8-core Mac Pro Nehalem will actually show up as a 16-core machine. I think they will need to ship it with Snow leopard in order for it to perform at its best.

If they ship it with SL, then they have to ship it with the others too. As I say, this ties in with the whole Nvidia overhaul. Laptop owners have had their updates for a few months now so having to buy SL shouldn't be a huge issue. If Apple release the hardware in March and expect people to pay for SL in June then it's not so good.

I really hope that Apple don't hold out until the end of March for the press event though. They just need to demo the hardware with SL and say it will be shipping in a week or two. I guess they will want to make the statement of 'shipping today' but at this stage, I don't think it's important.


I wonder if there will be new price points from Apple? With world wide failing economy combined with Apple gaining about 1.5% of market share when Leopard came out, if they will release products at a new price point.

The reason I ask is, unlike Leopards release, plus iMac price cuts (down from what they were several years ago), Microsoft has Windows 7 and based on the buzz about it, many people and especially I.T., love it, so you know Apple will make a push, somehow, in order to garner some market share. Have to wonder if Apple starts to market SERVER software instead of their known stance of "we don't push I.T. software", now that everyone is moving into "the cloud"
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I wonder if there will be new price points from Apple? With world wide failing economy combined with Apple gaining about 1.5% of market share when Leopard came out, if they will release products at a new price point.

The reason I ask is, unlike Leopards release, plus iMac price cuts (down from what they were several years ago), Microsoft has Windows 7 and based on the buzz about it, many people and especially I.T., love it, so you know Apple will make a push, somehow, in order to garner some market share. Have to wonder if Apple starts to market SERVER software instead of their known stance of "we don't push I.T. software", now that everyone is moving into "the cloud"

Apple is one of the companies that can weather this economic storm without seeing much loss. For starters, they have plenty of capital so making drastic decisions are required.

They are also a higher-end company which don't seem to be hurting much overall. The companies that sell the cheaper items to consumers that are more frugal and less likely to be financially set are more likely to suffer as their volume sales will no longer sustain them and they may have lower prices even more to move product. There is probably a name for this, but I surely don't know it.

Apple also has to worry how a price reduction will affect the perceived value of their product and bottom line over the long term. Once you lower a price it's get harder to raise it.

How long will this economic situation last? If you go to an Apple Store you'd think that things were peachy. What percentage of Apple's potential consumer base will not buy an Apple product because of the situation? They did record sales for the last Holiday quarter while many had record lows. This next quarter will probably be lower than the year's previous, but we are now toward the end of the Mac desktop line and pushing to the end of the iPhone. I imagine that the next quarters after this one will be higher than the year previous.

Remember, marketshare is pointless if you aren't making as much money, overall, for your efforts to get the marketshare. There just aren't many companies that can see this through as is and come out on top. The only other company in my portfolio that will probably best Apple in growth this quarter is McDonalds, for obvious reasons.

PS: I fully expect Snow Leopard to cost $129. Many are going to complain if it cost anything.
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