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Unboxed: Amazon Kindle 2 gets iPod treatment. Will it sell?

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Amazon's second generation of its Kindle ebook reader takes cues from Apple in hopes to make the new product the "iPod of books." Here's a graphical tour of how close Amazon comes to replicating the iPod experience.

A much smaller box

Compared to the giant box that the original Kindle came in, the Kindle 2 ships in a tiny package the size of a textbook. To slim down, Amazon dropped the large hard-bound book volume case it shipped with the original model.

The smaller packaging will also save Amazon money in materials and shipping. The company already streamlines the ordering process to associate the unit's serial number with an Amazon user account so that the device is ready to go as soon as it is received. It's in the company's interests to push its readers to adopt the Kindle because sending digital books to their Kindle incurs none of the warehousing and shipping of heavy books. Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos said that Kindle e-books now make up 10 percent of the online retailer's total book sales for the books that are available in kindle format (statement clarified - ed).



Inside the box, the Kindle 2 device sits in a paperboard tray resembling a microwavable meal. It and the inside of the exterior box are both covered in what looks like Harry Potter-inspired magical black text.




Both the exterior box and the magical meal tray appear designed to get users to rip the packaging open so as to leave it more difficult to return. However, it's still pretty easy to open up the box and leave all the wrappings intact, just in case you want to leave yourself the option of returning it later.



Easy to set up and use

The unit itself sits on a white plastic tray just like the iPhone's, with a thin getting started manual and a USB power cable tucked behind it.



The power cable is nearly identical to the one Apple ships with its iPods, although it users a plain mini-USB connector to connect to the device rather than Apple's Dock connector, which also supplies audio and video output and remote controls that are not necessary for the Kindle.



The USB cable unplugs from the power adapter, allowing it to serve as a sync cable for a computer (which is wholly optional; Amazon designed it to not need to sync with a computer at all), and also charge from any standard USB port (including an iPod power adapter).

Once plugged in, the Kindle 2 starts charging, and is immediately usable while being charged. It boots up fairly quickly and starts with a manual on how to use the device.



iPod-style industrial design

The new version is not just thinner and more attractive (the original model looked like a Pontiac Aztec), but is built better all around, with a fit an finish similar to Apple's consumer products.

The oddball, former separate silvery menu track for navigation is now replaced by a much simpler menu system controlled by the "five way" mini joystick controller. Page buttons make more sense, and the keyboard, while cramped and challenging to use for more than a few words, is adequate and not excessively in the way.




The unit resembles an iPod touch scaled up to accommodate a larger screen, with a plain white front and a silvery metal back. The unit incorporates serviceable speakers that work well enough to hear the new text-to-speech reading system without needing to use headphones, as long as you are somewhere that reading off text won't cause others around you to swing evil looks or punches in your direction.



The power/wake switch at the top of the unit makes it easy to power up the unit after it falls to sleep to conserve power (it can sleep with an image on the display). The neighboring headphone jack is the only other ports on the device apart from the mini USB jack on the bottom. There is no longer an SD storage card or a removable battery, following the footsteps of the iPhone and Apple's iPod family.




Same eInk but faster and smarter

The screen retains all the pros and cons of the original's eInk technology. On the pro side, the screen barely sips power, is easy to read, and is cost effective enough to make the unit $359, the same price as a higher-end iPod, despite having a larger 600x800 display.



The downsides of the eInk screen being that it refreshes very slowly (although slightly faster than the original), can't support color (although it now does 16 shades of grey, making the display look quite a bit smoother), and has no backlight, making it impossible to read without ambient lighting.

The Kindle 2's significant upgrade in physical packaging, a boost to 2GB of storage, longer battery life (on top of what was already plenty for regular use without regular charging), the continued availability of free EVDO 3G wireless access for on-demand content from nearly anywhere, the addition of text to speech synthesis, and Amazon's increasingly large supply of digital book titles, all at a price slightly lower than the original models, will undoubtedly make the new ebook reader even more attractive to the relatively tiny audience of early adopters.

What remains to be seen is how popular Amazon's new device can become following its iPod-style makeover. The answer will say a lot about the eBook market, which hasn't caught on over the past decade despite parallel efforts by Sony and other makers, as well as the potential for devices larger than the pocket sized iPhone.

After all, if Amazon can't sell a book sized, $360 ebook reader to book lovers, Apple probably won't be able to sell an oversized iPod touch to gadget lovers for significantly more (a large, color multitouch LCD display would cost many times more than the eInk screen does). That makes Kindle's future a matter of interest to much wider audience than just avid bookworms.

The Kindle 2 is now available for immediate order.
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I like the USB cable. More products should be delivered with pretty cables with small connectors (although this cable seems to have the standard size enormous plastic cover for the connector, it's arguably one of the prettier cables).
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I like the USB cable. More products should be delivered with pretty cables with small connectors.

I have a Kindle v1.0, I like the new version. No way I am giving that for an updated version. Let's face it, there is a difference between getting a new iPod and a new Kindle. I read a lot and listen to music a lot.

I think they have really started to nail this thing with v2.0 and I hope this takes off for them.
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I like this one a lot more than the original. I'll probably wait for a few more reviews and then seriously consider picking this up. I just wish it had a backlight, I know this would kill battery life and bring the cost up considerably, but hopefully it will be implemented at some point and time.

As the Cliche goes, "imitation is the best form of flattery;" Amazon will turn a lot more heads with 2.0.
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What the hell is up with the screen distortion in that last photo? The text is distorted.
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I'm not one of those who thinks the Kindle needs a backlight. Backlighting, which we tolerate all day long, isn't actually great on the eyes. But the Kindle needs to be black on WHITE, not black on grey. Then I'd be tempted to want one. I've seen the original Kindle's black-on-grey, and didn't like the visibility. The new one (from these photos) seems to have about the same contrast.

I'd also move the keyboard up by the screen, leaving a nice empty "grab" margin at the bottom.

But it has come a long way--I wish it success.
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I am watching Kindle with great interest, but I will wait until it becomes cheaper ($199 is the price point that I am waiting for, even if that means stripped down version) and with additional file format support. Specifically, I am waiting for native PDF and DOC support (without conversion).

I think Amazon should reward original Kindle users with free software update to bring some of the features up to spec.
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Reminds me; why are those overprice Apple notebook power adapters so damn low quality? (not really a question) Literally feel like crap, really. It's a disgrace. Go on, tell me I'm a troll, a hater or I'm wrong. Opinions aside, the quality/price on those things suck, suck, s-u-c-k.
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Very Little...

If one drops their Kindle on the floor and it smashes into pieces...

Would you have 'kindling'...

Sorry about that folks, just my weird sense of humor!

Kindle 2 looks nice! I agree with the black on a white screen comment and it would be a nice option of having illustrations or maybe even video clips in color to help make the story come alive!

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Why wont they make a proper, decent, simple, version?

No WiFi or Wireless Connection Tech. ( A lot of Cost Saving )
No keyboard.
Much Higher Resolution and something like 64 Grey Level.
post #11 of 84
Cute headline, though.

This unit is a big improvement over the first, partially through ergonomics, mostly through increased and improved functionality. They now simply need to add a few UI tweaks (e.g., the relevant functions of the hardware buttons should be included in every menu invoked by the 5-way), and some of the options need to be more intuitive and accessible (you change TTS by using the aA button...).
post #12 of 84
That's called barrel distortion and it's the result of the (cheap) lens on the digital camera. More prominent when shooting closeups or macros.

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What the hell is up with the screen distortion in that last photo? The text is distorted.
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I love that they kept the Amazon-factory styling for the exterior look of the package. But they could consider modernizing it a little.
And I still can't stand the dull-gray MONOTONE display - are we back in the 20th Century?? I understand the concept of a simple page as a book would be, but would it kill ya Amazon to add a little nuance? Maybe an off-white page or true-black for the text or the occasional deep-red accent for a header?
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I'm not one of those who thinks the Kindle needs a backlight. Backlighting, which we tolerate all day long, isn't actually great on the eyes. But the Kindle needs to be black on WHITE, not black on grey. Then I'd be tempted to want one. I've seen the original Kindle's black-on-grey, and didn't like the visibility. The new one (from these photos) seems to have about the same contrast.

I'd also move the keyboard up by the screen, leaving a nice empty "grab" margin at the bottom.

But it has come a long way--I wish it success.

if the Kindle gets to Black-on-White; that's when I'll stop buying them. The displays now are so much easier on the eyes...
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Now I'm not saying that Kindle is a bad device, it is just for the money they are asking I want a device that is a lot more versatile than Kindle. For the most part it does nothing more than deliver books or text, that is very limiting.

I'm hoping that Apple does the whole Touch thing to their tablet. That is a tablet with a maximal sized screen that does high resolution and Touch. We aren't talking a huge screen here either but something paperback sized. At least in one tablet as Apple really needs to offer a whole family of devices.

As to a LCD screen why certainly. I'm not sure why the author thinks LCD screens are that much more expensive if they are even more expensive. Even if Apple went OLED it doesn't imply a more expensive device as OLED will be cheaper to build in the long term. I'm not even sure where E-Ink stands price wise, it is just that LCDs in theses devices are not that expensive. One can find prices online for raw LCDs, they wouldn't be a problem in a Kindle sized device.

At least from the standpoint of technical/engineering or cost, LCDs aren't a problem. Now from the standpoint of the user, LCDs might not be great got extended reading but for many of us that won't be a problem. Color is so important for delivering all of the possibilities of a tablet that I for one would be willing to put up with a little eye strain while reading. IPhone clearly demonstrated to me that a good quality screen is usable over the long time periods. So sadly though I find Kindle to be interesting, I'm not likely to buy one at it's current price. I'm pretty confident that Apple could do a Touch based device that has color and more versatality than Kindle for a similar price.


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Given that I have no personal interest in the Kindle whatsoever, and am a big fan of many of Apple's products...

Holy shit, Dan. You're "surprised" that the Kindle doesn't use a 30-pin iPod connector? The plastic tray it sits in looks too much like the iPhone's?! Are you seriously that desperate to make the Kindle look like it's a wannabe iPod? Most of your articles are at least very decent, but this is way over the top with all the frantic comparisons of every last possible detail to somehow contrive connections with Apple products. It reads as if you can't accept even the possibility that not everybody is hunkering in Apple's gargantuan shadow. Or am I missing some hidden area of heated competition between Amazon and Apple which has set off your predatory instinct?
post #18 of 84
Buy a cheap netbook, have a computer and a backlighted screen to read your ebooks from.
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I hope you get punished for this rudeness.

He has disappeared. Anybody else thinking of a personal attack, don't.
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Is the 3G EVDO connection free? Or do you have to have a cell phone account with Spring, AT&T, etc., for it to download when WiFi isn't available?
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Hey, r-e-l-a-x, dude. All he was complaining about -- rightly or wrongly -- was the quality of the power cord that came with a computer. It's not like he was insulting a close member of your family or some such thing......
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I have a Kindle v1.0, I like the new version. No way I am giving that for an updated version. Let's face it, there is a difference between getting a new iPod and a new Kindle. I read a lot and listen to music a lot.

I think they have really started to nail this thing with v2.0 and I hope this takes off for them.

If you read a lot of books then the Kindle is probably worth the price. I just can't see myself paying over $300 for the device. The Kindle is the iPod of readers and Amazon has shown they are the book kings. I'm glad to wait until such devices (probably competitor devices) come down in price for us cheapstakes.

This is great for the environment and a game changer for the industry. We might actually save a forest or two with such devices. Hopefully Amazon's Kindle 3 will be more environmentally friendly on its components the next go round with maybe an aluminum case. Good enough that it saves trees.
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I hope you get punished for this rudeness.

Seconded: I think it would be appropriate for irnchriz to cool his heels for a week or so -- mods?

Kindle is an exciting technology, in my opinion. The real killer app (if it can be called an app) would be college textbooks. It would also be useful to be able to take notes "in the margins." If Amazon manages these two things, there will be no more campus bookstores at any universities (and good riddance!).

The grey scale display is not an important detail. Colour will come eventually in the eink tech; and the eink is a much better solution than an LCD as it allows for much greater power management.

Plus there's this:



I'm happy with my Kindle 2 so far, but if they cut off the free Wikipedia browsing, I plan to show up drunk on Jeff Bezos's lawn and refuse to leave. xkcd.com
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Inside the box, the Kindle 2 device sits in a paperboard tray resembling a microwavable meal. It and the inside of the exterior box are both covered in what looks like Harry Potter-inspired magical black text.

Ok, I'm following you on the microwavable meal comment, but wtf are you talking about "Harry Potter" text? Abusing a contemporary reference makes you sound like a social neophyte.

The actual structure of the package leaves something to be desired, I agree, but I think the type treatment is its best-developed quality. The concept is clear and easily communicated, as well as a pleasant (if not entirely refreshing) use of spot-UV. In my opinion, at least.

Of course, leave it to a graphic designer to have nothing to say about the product itself...
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"The real killer app (if it can be called an app) would be college textbooks."

I work in publishing and textbooks are the worst possible use for a Kindle. We publish hard and soft science books and the Kindle's 6 inch screen is woefully inadequate. A full 65% of the artwork in our textbooks (mainly engineering, mathematical, forensics, but some social science and humanities) cannot be displayed on the Kindle without severe loss of detail. The devise is limited to a single font, making math texts very difficult to display, the lack of color makes forensic titles irrelevant, and the lack of Unicode support means the chemistry, physics, cultural, and language studies books we we co cannot be displayed without expensive rework. Kindle is for trade paperbacks and nothing else. I hope the Kindle 3 gets with modern standards and allows us to move textbooks forward.

Cool comic, love that series and will check to see if it is available on my Kindle
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"The real killer app (if it can be called an app) would be college textbooks."

I work in publishing and textbooks are the worst possible use for a Kindle. We publish hard and soft science books and the Kindle's 6 inch screen is woefully inadequate. A full 65% of the artwork in our textbooks (mainly engineering, mathematical, forensics, but some social science and humanities) cannot be displayed on the Kindle without severe loss of detail. The devise is limited to a single font, making math texts very difficult to display, the lack of color makes forensic titles irrelevant, and the lack of Unicode support means the chemistry, physics, cultural, and language studies books we we co cannot be displayed without expensive rework. Kindle is for trade paperbacks and nothing else. I hope the Kindle 3 gets with modern standards and allows us to move textbooks forward.

Cool comic, love that series and will check to see if it is available on my Kindle

Personally, I'd love to see Kindle put overpriced textbook publishers on notice.

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it's the result of the (cheap) lens on the digital camera. More prominent when shooting closeups or macros.

Cheap or expensive, the main problem is the human element behind the camera. My PowerShot G5 will do the same if I shoot a closeup fully zoomed out. That's why the photographer in this story should have used his head, put the camera on a tripod, and then used full zoom on the camera to eliminate the distortion. It's easy to do. And honestly, we are all reading this story to see just how amazing the Kindle is, so I for one want to see some crisp, non-distorted photos of the screen in all its glory. Tisk, tisk, AppleInsider photographer!
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I like this one a lot more than the original. I'll probably wait for a few more reviews and then seriously consider picking this up. I just wish it had a backlight, I know this would kill battery life and bring the cost up considerably, but hopefully it will be implemented at some point and time.

As the Cliche goes, "imitation is the best form of flattery;" Amazon will turn a lot more heads with 2.0.

The absence of a back light is a plus! Our eyes become stressed when light shines into them ... this is why reading on the iPhone is tiring after a only a short time.
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Very Little...

If one drops their Kindle on the floor and it smashes into pieces...

Would you have 'kindling'...

It's supposedly impact resistant. They have videos of drop tests on their site.

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Sorry about that folks, just my weird sense of humor!

Kindle 2 looks nice! I agree with the black on a white screen comment and it would be a nice option of having illustrations or maybe even video clips in color to help make the story come alive!

Video clips making the story come alive? Why not cut to the chase and just watch the movie adaptation rather than deal with a mixed text and video story?

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Why wont they make a proper, decent, simple, version?

No WiFi or Wireless Connection Tech. ( A lot of Cost Saving )
No keyboard.
Much Higher Resolution and something like 64 Grey Level.

For higher res, more grays, you're either going to pay more or have to wait a while. That's going to negate the cost savings of no wireless.

If you just want a reader like that, then it's probably not the device they intend. They might want it to feel like a product in its own right rather than a computer accessory. Also, it follows the idea that you can download media from just about anywhere at any time without having to go home to your computer. Being able to get sample chapters and buy the rest of the book without missing a beat sounds like a nifty feature.

But if the market demands a second model that is cut-down, then I imagine they will eventually do it.

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Personally, I'd love to see Kindle put overpriced textbook publishers on notice.

I don't see how that will change anything, the same industry is going to be the ones that will provide the ebook version. You would have to find authors that bypass that industry and sell straight to the ebook companies, and I don't know how they'll be able to afford an illustrator to make any diagrams they may need.
post #30 of 84
I would buy a Kindle today if it could do one more thing: allow me to transfer books from other (yes, free) sources.

The 'Killer App' imho, would be ability to walk into your public library and have them beam a book loan to your device.
post #31 of 84
the cables looks similar to Apple's calbles.
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10 years from now Amazon could be making Apple class computers...

Normally I treat every suggestion for a product Apple doesn't currently do with a degree of ambivalence but I have to say it again Apple really are acting absurdly stupid in letting the 7 to 10" table form factor pass them by..
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Unfortunately, I agree with several other posts commenting on the lack of support for other formats. I think this will ultimately lead to limited success for the device. The ipod succeeded because it supported the legacy mp3 format and incorporating it into there own ecosystem. Amazon is trying to create a similar ecosystem by keeping everything closed. There are literally millions of free books out there in PDF or DOC formats. Making it easy to use these formats would seriously reduce the number of books sold. It is kind of backwards from the ipod ecosystem. Apple makes very little money selling music and gets their money from selling ipods. Amazon is trying to grab money with both hands. Close the ecosystem as tight as you can so you can sell more books and make money off of the device itself. I might work, but it won't work as well. If I am going to carry around a reader, I am going to want to read PDF and excel documents from work... word documents from home... listen to audiobooks... listen to music. I want to do it with simple sync and not email and conversion.

It is a great idea, and I would even pay the price, but as it stands now, it is too limited. It is just so close to being where it needs to be, I can almost see it succeeding, but it is just not there yet.
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Apple really are acting absurdly stupid in letting the 7 to 10" table form factor pass them by..

I really agree there. I want an iPod touch that is 7 to 10 inches in size. Slim and elegant, apps from app store, used for reading, movies, tv shows, some basic editing, email, wifi, and of course MUSIC. I'd pay good money for 3G for ultimate connectivity too.

Small enough for my purse, but not too heavy.

I'd love such a device.
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Originally Posted by Jamsian View Post

"The real killer app (if it can be called an app) would be college textbooks."

I work in publishing and textbooks are the worst possible use for a Kindle. We publish hard and soft science books and the Kindle's 6 inch screen is woefully inadequate. A full 65% of the artwork in our textbooks (mainly engineering, mathematical, forensics, but some social science and humanities) cannot be displayed on the Kindle without severe loss of detail. The devise is limited to a single font, making math texts very difficult to display, the lack of color makes forensic titles irrelevant, and the lack of Unicode support means the chemistry, physics, cultural, and language studies books we we co cannot be displayed without expensive rework. Kindle is for trade paperbacks and nothing else. I hope the Kindle 3 gets with modern standards and allows us to move textbooks forward.

Cool comic, love that series and will check to see if it is available on my Kindle

Well, that may be true of the current Kindle, but a future version will obviously address all of those issues. Color, graphics, etc are just a matter of time and engineering.
I think texts will largely disappear within 10 years because:
1) lug-abillity. (ever hear of 'book-bag back'? Its a real issue with grade-school kids)
2) ability to take notes in-line without destroying the value of the book for future readers
3) search-ability
4) hyperlinking
5) cost. (and I don't buy the economies of scale arguments for the absurd cost of textbooks.) Forcing re-purchase of books to accommodate trivial updates of content is precisely an arguement for eTexts. Forced re-purchase is as much a scam of the tenured class as it is of the publishers.
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Originally Posted by surferfromuk View Post

10 years from now Amazon could be making Apple class computers...

Normally I treat every suggestion for a product Apple doesn't currently do with a degree of ambivalence but I have to say it again Apple really are acting absurdly stupid in letting the 7 to 10" table form factor pass them by..

Who says they're letting the opportunity pass by? I think a tablet is a sure thing, and its a just matter of market timing. Anecdotal evidence that a few of us hard-core, bleeding edge types want it now doesn't mean that the market is ready, particularly with the economy in its current state.
It'll be here... chill.

As for Amazon becoming a world-class computer manufacturer, nonsense. They're booksellers who've had a device designed and made for them to facilitate their core business... selling books.
post #37 of 84
It looks great now! I think it has the potential to really grow.
It's not for me though because my typical books and reference material is filled with photographs and big high resolution color images. E-ink simply can't reproduce that to the level of where it's getting useful.

If the Kindle and the whole e-book thing ever is going to catch on I believe it's got to start heavily with students and university libraries. It would be a killer app there where all student material could be updated on the kindle, not having to carry around heavy books anymore.

A agree a little with the Black on white instead of black on gray opinion. Isn't reading a lot of text on a retro gray background in dim lighting conditions potentially frustrating? Also I'd like to know if the screen is reflective or matte? Is there trouble with reflections or glares?
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I'm not one of those who thinks the Kindle needs a backlight. Backlighting, which we tolerate all day long, isn't actually great on the eyes. But the Kindle needs to be black on WHITE, not black on grey. Then I'd be tempted to want one. I've seen the original Kindle's black-on-grey, and didn't like the visibility. The new one (from these photos) seems to have about the same contrast.

I'd also move the keyboard up by the screen, leaving a nice empty "grab" margin at the bottom.

But it has come a long way--I wish it success.

Actually the Kindle 2 has 16 shades of grey vs 4 shades of grey on kindle 1- a big difference. I plan to get one this summer as I enjoy reading the newspaper on my commute each day. This will make that experience a whole lot better and I won't wind up with anything to dispose of.
I am a little perplexed by the title of this thread "Will it sell?"
It's already been selling big time (Kindle1) and this will be an even bigger success- it's been selling before it was even released.
Jeff Bezos on Charlie Rose was excellent yesterday demonstrating it.
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Who says they're letting the opportunity pass by? I think a tablet is a sure thing, and its a just matter of market timing. Anecdotal evidence that a few of us hard-core, bleeding edge types want it now doesn't mean that the market is ready, particularly with the economy in its current state.
It'll be here... chill.

As for Amazon becoming a world-class computer manufacturer, nonsense. They're booksellers who've had a device designed and made for them to facilitate their core business... selling books.

Yes, but how much will it sell for - that is the question. Will it be under $1,000?
Amazon is a lot more than booksellers- much, much more. They are the biggest online retailer of goods- which happens to include books.
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I really agree there. I want an iPod touch that is 7 to 10 inches in size. Slim and elegant, apps from app store, used for reading, movies, tv shows, some basic editing, email, wifi, and of course MUSIC. I'd pay good money for 3G for ultimate connectivity too.

Small enough for my purse, but not too heavy.

I'd love such a device.

Netbooks and ultra compacts are selling big time now. Seems like all the R&D went into MacBook Air and the greening of Apple (thank you Al Gore). Too bad we don't have our own version of a 7-11" anything now.
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