Originally Posted by vinea
Really? Pray tell what you're doing that requires the 7900GTX? Which is completely outclassed by the 9600 GT barely two years later?
I use Archicad, among other, such as Motion with FCS. I imagine that PS ill also get a boost after 10.6 comes out.
Well, The Gulftowns (desktop chip, not Xeon) will still be LGA 1366 but Intel still isn't sure if it will work with existing X58 boards. That uncertainty carries to the Xeons. intels' 6 core Dunningtons are Caneland processors, not Seaburgs.
The Gulftown is a server, desktop chip, and it uses the same LGA-1366 socket. It will work, at least according to Anandtech, who usually gets these thing right.
Beckton is the Nehalem 8 core and I dunno that it will be compatible with the Gainstowns (doubtful). It seems likely that Intel might do a 6 core Nehalem Xeon even if it hasn't announced it yet. But there's no certainty that they will be clocked very high. The Dunningtons top at 2.66Ghz despite having 3.4Ghz Harpertowns and 2.93 Tigertons.
The Becton is not a drop-in part, as it uses the LGA-1567 socket. Apple would need a new mobo for that. If Apple is still intending to bring the Mac Pro into higher territory, they may go that way next year, but I don't think so.
Given the roadmap has Gainstown at 3.2Ghz at the top end, I wouldn't expect it to be much more than a Dunnington-like Nehalem...that may be destined for 4-way and up servers and not workstations like the Mac Pro.
If you're still talking about Becton here, I agree, though the highest speeds are malleable right now, as Intel's been making excellent progress in ramping up. It's happened much more quickly than any new architecture in recent history, with fewer tapeouts. It's thought that we may see 3.4 GHz.
So the odds of you upgrading to 6 core 3.3Ghz chips in your current Mac Pro seems to be 50-50 at best. Either it will be not much faster than 2.66Ghz or it will be for the other Xeon line or both like the Dunningtons...which mostly run in blade servers and other high density applications.
The odds are actually rather excellent.
And in any case it will likely cost you $1600+ per chip on the retail market. Which is what the 3.4 X5492s cost today. You're seriously going to drop $3200 for that upgrade when you can get a new Mac Pro instead?
We'll see about the prices, which haven't been set yet. but, I saved $1,200 by sticking with the 2.66 for now, so it's not that much of a stretch for me. If spending another $3,200 rather than another $5,000+ is the choice, you bet!
Even if the top end Mac Pro is $6K who on earth thinks that's a good deal? God help you if you manage to munge up the install and break something in the process. You now have a 5K+ doorstop or a $1600 piece of costume jewelry.
A good deal is in the wallet of the buyer. I like these machines very much. As I'm retired, I didn't buy a new machine every three years, and updated in between as I always used to do. But now I've decided to go for it, as I've been waiting for these chips. I'm also doing work I haven't done for a few years.
I've converted a number of Mac Pros to 4 core, and never had a problem, though it's a pain. I know of others who have done it as well. These new machines look MUCH easier to work on.
That's not the point. That Apple makes it hard to do the buy cheaper and upgrade more often is an issue but the general strategy is sound.
That's exactly the point, because I'm not talking about buying a cheaper machine, I'm talking about the difference between buying a low end version of the same model, vs the higher end version.
So, for me, the difference would be between buying the single core 2.26 Mac Pro, or the dual 2.66 mac Pro, which is what I did order.
It's NEVER a question of going for something else.
That's the CURRENT upgrade. If not this then what did you many friends upgrade from and what did they upgrade to?
The way you wrote that, it seemed as though you were saying something a bit different. For people who bought an earlier model of the Mac Pro, with the older, slower, 2 core chips, they could upgrade to the faster 4 core chips, whichever number they may have. That's quite an upgrade.