or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Software › Mac OS X › Briefly: Apple prepping new Snow Leopard, iWeb, ARD updates
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Briefly: Apple prepping new Snow Leopard, iWeb, ARD updates

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
The news vacuum that's followed Apple's Mac desktop refresh offers space for some updates on the company's software-related efforts, which should soon produce new builds of Snow Leopard. Meanwhile, minor updates to iWeb, Remote Desktop, and other OS X components are also reportedly in the works.

Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard

People familiar with the ongoing development of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard say Apple is gearing up to provide some developers with a new build of the next-gen OS in the near term.

The target build is said to be 10A286, which could change at any time. Regardless of the build, an identically numbered beta of Snow Leopard Server should arrive in tandum.

Apple last equipped Apple Developer Connection members with build 10A261 in early February. Around that time it was reported that Snow Leopard would include Core Location and Multi-Touch frameworks for third-party developers, and also deliver more intuitive printer driver delivery.

Specific to the 10A261 build were a handful of visual tweaks, such as a Put Back option in the Finder and the ability to drill down into stacks via a new grid-view interface, each of which were documented in a series of screenshots.

While calls from Apple legal have marred various reports on those features, including AppleInsider's, readers point out that several videos covering the design tweaks live on over at YouTube, like the one below.



iWeb

Also in the works, and reportedly undergoing internal testing, is iWeb 3.0.1. The update is believed to address issues with publishing iWeb pages to MobileMe and FTP, which has been one of the largest sources of complaints about the new Web editor that shipped last month as part of iLife '09.

One thread running since late January concerns FTP publishing errors where a test worked properly but the publish failed. Others have reported issues with pictures not appearing correctly while still others have struggled with uploading for a month only to discover their sleep settings were putting the computer to sleep before it could finish the upload.

Apple Remote Desktop & VoiceOver

Meanwhile, two other software updates growing closer to release, though very little information is know about them at this time. The first is Apple Remote Desktop 3.3, which is reportedly code-named Hook. Somewhat further behind is said to be a significant update to VoiceOver.
post #2 of 30
What I really want is the ability to right click stack items, without the need to install anything on top of SL. That feature is a no-brainer.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #3 of 30
I'm interested in Snow Leopard for sure and will buy it on day one, but I suspect Snow Leopard OSX Server will be feature rich enough to take another slice out of the Windows server market.
post #4 of 30
It should be noted that the latest Wifi update for Intel has helped somewhat but there are still significant issues depending on the network you reside on. I still get the intermittent scanning for network problem on certain WiFi access points. It it better but still not 100%.

As to Snow Leopard all I can say is that I hope it comes quickly. The number one thing I'm hoping for is GPU acceleration of video play back. That should make a huge difference on my early 2008 MBP. If they don't implement I will be very disappointed with Apple. Not that Apple is in my good graces right now but I suspect that I will get over it.

Even if the iMac update was lackluster I'm starting to warm up to one of their new networking appliances. It is good to see that Apple has been steadily updating all their software even on embedded devices. Software is one of the good things to look at this year as Apple has been doing well here. Everything I have, my MBP, MobileMe and Iphone, are all working better than when I started out with the stuff in 2008.

Dave
post #5 of 30
It seems like the Snow Leopard builds are slowly starting to pick up the pace. Maybe I'm wrong???

Mac Mini (Mid 2011) 2.5 GHz Core i5

120 GB SSD/500 GB HD/8 GB RAM

AMD Radeon HD 6630M 256 MB

Reply

Mac Mini (Mid 2011) 2.5 GHz Core i5

120 GB SSD/500 GB HD/8 GB RAM

AMD Radeon HD 6630M 256 MB

Reply
post #6 of 30
Me too, from what I'm reading about Snow Leopard I like. A smaller footprint, more stable and faster, I will be buying it day one.

I want to upgrade my iWeb '08 (Real Estate website) to '09 just for the FTP capability. A simple click rather than opening Fetch and dragging and dropping, but Apple's iWeb '09 support forums are awash with supposed problems using this feature.

I'll wait till I see a fix. I bet we see an iWeb '09 FTP fix before the SL release.

Thanks for the info AI, saves a lot of unnecessary headaches!

Chris
post #7 of 30
major update to voiceover, iphone... oh... yes!!!!
post #8 of 30
Yech... Stacks. Not a fan.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply
post #9 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Yech... Stacks. Not a fan.

Stack's isn't useful for much, but it is useful for accessing small folders of apps without having the Dock take up an insane amount of space on the screen. Especially if you aren't running on a high resolution like 1680x1580 or 1920x1200.
post #10 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Yech... Stacks. Not a fan.

Me neither. First thing that I turn off after a re-install.
They have added stuff like scrollbars and folder navigation.
You just as well can open a Finder window when clicking the dock icon,
it offers more control too. Stacks are different, I know, but do we really need it?
post #11 of 30
With all of the fancy graphics and animations, why does the Activity Monitor still suck ass? The graphics look like they are from 1984.
post #12 of 30
I am not impressed by SL build numbers. Maybe Apple has less builds in its development methods now. Tiger had GM build 8A425 or so and Leopard had 9A581, before that they were working into B and C, like Panther 7B85 and Jaguar 6C115 or so.

Leopard was released on October 26th. Now it is about 16 months later. With a daily build we would be around 480. I expected to see a build number like 10A4xx.

Could it be that Snow Leopard will not be that big an upgrade. We know they are hitting the Pause button on features, but maybe they are also hitting the pause button on OSX work?

Prince (Daniel) McClean, do you have an explanation, or anyone else for that matter??
post #13 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Around that time it was reported that Snow Leopard would include Core Location and Multi-Touch frameworks for third-party developers, and also deliver more intuitive printer driver delivery.

Pray, Apple, enlighten me on when capable TimeMachine framework is gonna meet developers... Didn't I miss something?
My home-brewed dual pane file manager can't wait anymore...

We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

Reply

We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

Reply
post #14 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Yech... Stacks. Not a fan.

I love them. It reminds me of the tabbed windows in OS 9, only much less intrusive (no more oddball tabs positioned around the edges of the screens) and easier to use. If you have a lot of locations with lots of files in each that you have to access frequently, then they are perfect and much more convenient than having to dig around in the Finder or leave your desktop cluttered with windows. Guess it depends on the kind of work you do.
post #15 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by enzomedici View Post

With all of the fancy graphics and animations, why does the Activity Monitor still suck ass? The graphics look like they are from 1984.

The whole point of Activity Monitor is to monitor your system - you don't want it screwing up the figures by taking up a whole load of CPU time.
post #16 of 30
Isn't that 'new' stacks method just the Finder, but with windows that have a black background and background windows that have some perspective?

With regards to stacks, all I want is the implementation that Apple originally showed with the Leopard preview, where the files themselves reside in the stack, rather than the stack simply being a front end for a folder residing elsewhere.

I want to be able to grab a bunch of icons and drop them into a stack, without necessarily having to create an enclosing folder and file it away.
OK, can I have my matte Apple display, now?
Reply
OK, can I have my matte Apple display, now?
Reply
post #17 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Yech... Stacks. Not a fan.

I rely on it every day.

Stacks + Expose + Spaces is an important part of my workflow.
post #18 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messiah View Post

Isn't that 'new' stacks method just the Finder, but with windows that have a black background and background windows that have some perspective?

With regards to stacks, all I want is the implementation that Apple originally showed with the Leopard preview, where the files themselves reside in the stack, rather than the stack simply being a front end for a folder residing elsewhere.

I want to be able to grab a bunch of icons and drop them into a stack, without necessarily having to create an enclosing folder and file it away.

Autostacks.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26206
post #19 of 30
Amen!

If Apple wants "Stacks" to be an easy way to select stuff from the Dock, they should NOT implement this folder navigation / scroll bar thingie, because you will invite your audience to use it for something different than its original purpose.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Messiah View Post

Isn't that 'new' stacks method just the Finder, but with windows that have a black background and background windows that have some perspective?

With regards to stacks, all I want is the implementation that Apple originally showed with the Leopard preview, where the files themselves reside in the stack, rather than the stack simply being a front end for a folder residing elsewhere.

I want to be able to grab a bunch of icons and drop them into a stack, without necessarily having to create an enclosing folder and file it away.
post #20 of 30
Ooops!

an identically numbered beta of Snow Leopard Server should arrive in tandum

This must be TANDEM, I have no idea what TANDUM is

John Davis
post #21 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by johninokinawa View Post

This must be TANDEM, I have no idea what TANDUM is

But you are well versed in sardonicism.

Why point out the misspelled datum if you know perfectly well what it means?
Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"
Reply
Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"
Reply
post #22 of 30
Could they can the rap music or the creepy keyboard music? Just present the changes. The music is like being forced to hear big bass while waking up and brushing your teeth.
post #23 of 30
I just don't see how Apple plans to sell Snow Leopard to the masses. For the ordinary folks out there, there is just nothing to lure them into buying it.

don't get me wrong, I'll get my copy (still hoping for ZFS support), but compared to Leopard and Tiger, I don't see other people being attracted by it. So I guess they'll just introduce it along with the new hardware that sells, I'm really looking forward to see how fast it is being adopted.

what do you think?
post #24 of 30
I used iweb 09 to upload my website to an FTP last week and it worked fine, no problems. It's a nice feature, now I don't have to use fetch to upload my site.
post #25 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by randfee View Post

I just don't see how Apple plans to sell Snow Leopard to the masses. For the ordinary folks out there, there is just nothing to lure them into buying it.

don't get me wrong, I'll get my copy (still hoping for ZFS support), but compared to Leopard and Tiger, I don't see other people being attracted by it. So I guess they'll just introduce along with the new hardware that sells...

what do you think?

What are you talking about? Besides the entire platform moving to Cocoa, a new kernel, completely updated Printing System, Email, Finder, and every other application space getting streamlined and updated, you're worried that because it looks very similar to 10.5 people will pass on it?

That's ludicrous.

Who would pass on improved Samba? Improved NFS? Improved File system support? Added security? New versions of Apple applications leveraging more services to one another?

There are hundreds of changes that will have people smiling when they upgrade.

For a Developer the options are obviously more obvious. For consumers they will see the changes in 3rd party applications, new applications across the board.

I passed on Leopard knowing that Snow Leopard is the first version I've been waiting on for 10 years. That's just the ex-NeXT snob in me.
post #26 of 30
jeez... I'm not talking about you and me, I'm talking about the broad mass of users, that looks for the next exposé, spotlight or time-machine.

I know very well what I can get out of 10.6, as I said, I'll definitely get it. I don't know if my favorite feature (ZFS) will be in yet, but hell yeah, lots of stuff that is gonna keep me smiling.


BUT, I was talking about the average guy/gal, that can't care less about all the stuff that interests us. Those are the masses, they don't see a new shiny feature, they'll complain and/or not buy it. As easy as that!
post #27 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Autostacks.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26206

Isn't this basically the same as the "Recent Items" found under the upper-left Apple icon?

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply
post #28 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by randfee View Post

jeez... I'm not talking about you and me, I'm talking about the broad mass of users, that looks for the next exposé, spotlight or time-machine.

I know very well what I can get out of 10.6, as I said, I'll definitely get it. I don't know if my favorite feature (ZFS) will be in yet, but hell yeah, lots of stuff that is gonna keep me smiling.


BUT, I was talking about the average guy/gal, that can't care less about all the stuff that interests us. Those are the masses, they don't see a new shiny feature, they'll complain and/or not buy it. As easy as that!

I'm not buying Apple's "featureless" crap.

Hell the plethora of little tweaks i'm seeing leak are really getting me pumped for this OS. Initially I was a bit like "well I only have a Core Duo so the Grandcentral OpenCL thing really isn't going to benefit me"

But now I'm seeing the polish I've longed for. A cleaner Services Menu so I actually want to use it.

Smaller apps for a faster install. Better printing and I think the final thing Apple adds is a cohesive and unified UI.

I'm sold. I'm hoping Apple is kind and delivers it for say half price but if we continue to see improvements I'll pay full pop for it.

I keep hearing developers dropping hints about features they can't wait to tap in SL. I think there is going to be a lot of "I don't see anything I'd use" coming from people but human nature, it appears, mandates its easy to talk yourself out of spend money.
He's a mod so he has a few extra vBulletin privileges. That doesn't mean he should stop posting or should start acting like Digital Jesus.
- SolipsismX
Reply
He's a mod so he has a few extra vBulletin privileges. That doesn't mean he should stop posting or should start acting like Digital Jesus.
- SolipsismX
Reply
post #29 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shookster View Post

The whole point of Activity Monitor is to monitor your system - you don't want it screwing up the figures by taking up a whole load of CPU time.

I agree. One thing I'd love is for common apps to have an option to click on a process for a quick explanation for apple for what they are so that you know what is up. Obviously this is for the apps/processes that are common and almost always running on all systems.

I have an (dual core) MBA and for the first six months, I'd find one core stop working (go to 100% with no apps opens) and find some random routine that was using all of 1 core and 60% of another. I hate having to google each one to find out.
post #30 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

iWeb
Also in the works, and reportedly undergoing internal testing, is iWeb 3.0.1. The update is believed to address issues with publishing iWeb pages to MobileMe and FTP, which has been one of the largest sources of complaints about the new Web editor that shipped last month as part of iLife '09.

One thread running since late January concerns FTP publishing errors where a test worked properly but the publish failed. Others have reported issues with pictures not appearing correctly while still others have struggled with uploading for a month only to discover their sleep settings were putting the computer to sleep before it could finish the upload.

It may interest you to know that the above quote sent to the Apple discussion forum about the many problems people are having with iWeb3, was removed by the staff on account of being speculation and rumor.
I don't know whether this means that Apple is NOT going to fix the iWeb3 bugs.
You can see for yourself how images are misplaced on many iWeb blogs:
http://web.me.com/fabrice.baudon/My_...l/Journal.html
The rss feed iWeb produces is faulty as well.
It seems that not many magazines dare to publish about these problems. They certainly have not tested the blog.

I do hope they will fix the bugs though.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Mac OS X
AppleInsider › Forums › Software › Mac OS X › Briefly: Apple prepping new Snow Leopard, iWeb, ARD updates