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post #41 of 189
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Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post

Maybe. But I have a first generation iPhone. It cost $599. For everybody waiting for a bigger tablet, thinking that it'll cost $600, please keep that in mind. My iPhone cost $600. The new ones reportedly still do, only their price has been buried beneath the AT&T subsidy.

If you're wanting a tablet with a bigger screen at the same price point, it'll have to be at the expense of some other features, and I can't imagine what that would be. If anything, we'll want the bigger screen PLUS a lot of features. How is it gonna come in at $600. (And of course, if it ever did, there would be an outcry because the week before a rumor would spread that it was going to be $400, but that's another issue).

Don't forget that the $600 iPhone, while not traditionally subsidized, had profit sharing backend subsidy.

Apple might sell such a device for $900 and then sell it through AT&T with a $60/month data plan with a 24-month contract. This is how they et al. currently sell their $300 3G cards to consumers.
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post #42 of 189
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

I predict starting at $1,099.

Well Teckstud, I actually agree with you..

This idea that Apple is going to sell a 7-9-inch netbook for $599 is a joke.

3.5" iPhone = $599 ($199 + $400 from AT&T)

13" MBA = $1799

There is NO WAY that a 7-9-inch Apple branded device will sell for the same amount they sell the iPhone for. Not a chance.

With the MBA, Apple have proven that portability has it's price.
post #43 of 189
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

MBA weighs more, has a high gloss screen, and has too large a foot print, no ports, no HDMI , no firewire, sealed battery, etc, etc- Boom???

Unless Apple decided to slip a product-change below radar, the MBA is only available with a matte-screen. No matter what angle I look at my MBA's screen, doesn't look reflective to me.
It does in fact have ports, 1-USB, and a mini display port. Probably not enough for you but suits me just fine.
post #44 of 189
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

Unless Apple decided to slip a product-change below radar, the MBA is only available with a matte-screen. No matter what angle I look at my MBA's screen, doesn't look reflective to me.
It does in fact have ports, 1-USB, and a mini display port. Probably not enough for you but suits me just fine.


Huh? The MBA is glossy. From Apple Product page:

"The moment you open the new MacBook Air, youre greeted by instant full screen brightness. And its slim design doesnt compromise on size: the glossy 13.3-inch, widescreen LED-backlit MacBook Air display is the same viewable size as the screen on MacBook."
post #45 of 189
but the iPhone's cost has a lot to do with the size of the hardware and the extra things (like 3G and GPS, which may not be needed in a netbook/tablet).

If they make a more conventional sized tablet, it may not be as expensive, or possibly just as expensive, as the iPod Touch (then you have to add the features like USBs and larger battery, etc). Using the rumored iPhone 3.0 processor as a base, it may not be that hard to believe that it could be in the same price range as a few high end netbooks.

My only question is - stylus or no stylus?
i like the unique touchscreen of the iPhone/iPod, but its almost impossible to use a pointing device. Unless they use some kind of wacom-like system, I could see the screen getting beat up pretty quickly.
post #46 of 189
The MacBook Air has a full size screen, a full size keyboard and trackpad, the display port can provide HDMI out, uses a penryn processor, and Nvidia Geforce 9400 graphics, and actually contributes to Apple's profitability.

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MBA weighs more, has a high gloss screen, and has too large a foot print, no ports, no HDMI , no firewire, sealed battery, etc, etc- Boom???
post #47 of 189
Netbooks do use 3G. Netbooks have sold well in Europe because they are subsidized with 3G wireless plans.

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Originally Posted by tazinlwfl View Post

but the iPhone's cost has a lot to do with the size of the hardware and the extra things (like 3G and GPS, which may not be needed in a netbook/tablet).
post #48 of 189
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The original MacBook Air had exactly the same internal components of the MacBook, the only difference was the low voltage CPU.

The bus speed being slower was a big difference - it was slower.
post #49 of 189
No both MB and MBA used the same chipset with 800MHz bus.

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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Wrong- The bus speed was slower.
post #50 of 189
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Originally Posted by teejaysplace24 View Post

I find it interesting that this information was "leaked" to Dow Jones, of all places, which really isn't an all-star in the rumours game. I also noticed that APPL stocks jumped about $4 this morining...

Recall that Dow Jones is now owned by Rupert Murdoch.
post #51 of 189
Not an apples to apples comparison.

A tower is not the same as a small form-factor (sff) PC (Mini is sff)

Go price a sff PC and you'll find it is more expensive than the Mini.

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Originally Posted by jenkman91 View Post

Okay... Do seriously think the Mac mini is overpriced?? I want you to either go to new egg.com or tigerdirect.com and build a mini PC that has the same specs as the Mac mini.
I will help you out:
Mac mini base model:
-2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 duo Processor
-120 GB HDD
-1 GB of DDR3 RAM (no not DDR2)
--8x double-layer SuperDrive That can be swapped out for a SATA drive
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics-128MB or 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
-bluetooth 2.1
- WiFi802.11 b,g,n
-One FireWire 800 port (up to 800 Mbps)
-Five USB 2.0 ports (up to 480 Mbps
-Mini-DVI port
-DVI output using Mini-DVI to DVI Adapter (included)
-VGA output using Mini-DVI to VGA Adapter
-Mini DisplayPort output
-and uses less than 13 watts thats 45 percent less energy than any other desktop
-and have an OS pre-installed (Linux does not count)

Final price $599
So please, go build a mini desktop computer that cost at or less than the mac mini with specifications that match or almost match the base price version of the mac mini. Please!!! and if you do comment back. But, I doubt that will happen.
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Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 edit
Hardware Support Services 1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis edit
Monitors No Monitor edit
Large Displays None edit
Memory 3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 4DIMMs edit
Hard Drive 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache edit
Optical Drive 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit
Video Cards ATI Radeon HD 3450 256MB supporting HDMI edit
Sound Card Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit
Tuners and Remotes None edit
Keyboard Dell Consumer Multimedia Keyboard and Laser Mouse


Same price. $599.

Note how almost all components are actually better than the Mac Mini, and that's without the typical discount codes that they offer that take up to 25% off. Your point was...?
post #52 of 189
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

This contradicts itself. If the keyboard is virtual, then it doesn't need a physical keyboard and if there is no physical keyboard, then there is no need for the clamshell form factor.

Also, if it is a clamshell, then Apple violates it's own rule of never having sub-sized keyboards that they have repeated many times of late, and if they are going to break that rule, then why not just make the 12" MacBook that everyone has wanted for so long?

Not saying for sure it won't happen, but it seems more likely to me that it's a small tablet with iPhone OS-X and a larger version of the same virtual thumb-type keyboards. I predict it will be released at the same time as a new "super-iPhone" with much more power and multi-tasking and that the two together will redefine the OS (again) as more of a real computing platform. If they manage to pull it off, a tablet like this could be more useful and ultimately more popular than the iPhone IMO.

I am not disagreeing with you because obviously I am just guessing, but a clamshell with a virtual keyboard is not impossible. The problem with a tablet is that it is hard to work on in any serious manner because the relationship between the screen and the keyboard. A virtual keyboard on a clamshell has some advantages as has been discussed before. It would allow for far more versatility through the flexibility of the keyboard area. I remember seeing a patent drawing, I think on AI, which showed an iPhone type device with a fold out keyboard which was essentially a piece of glass. As for Apple's view on a smaller keyboard I take that with a pinch of salt. An undersize keyboard is a given with any miniature device, be it 10", iPhone size, virtual or real.
I don't know any more than anybody here but it seems to me that Apple would want to build on the iPhone, rather than miniaturize the Air. But tablets are too difficult so I imagine something different altogether.
post #53 of 189
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Why do I need to make a choice in having to choose from 6 versions of an OS?? That does just does not make any sense at all. OS X has ONE version and does everything right out of the box. I don't understand why Microsoft can't do one version (like OS X) that has all the features.

And don't even tell me the reason for 6 different versions is because Windows has all these "cool features" on it, and they cant fit it all on one disk.

I call BS from a mile away.

While I agree that the multitude of Windows versions is ridiculous, have you not heard of OS X Server? It is a different version of Mac OS X, so that makes two versions, and isn't the iPhone OS derived from Mac OS X? so three versions. Yeah okay, so the iPhone OS is part of the appliance and OS X server may not apply to the general computing public, and there ay not be a very long list of differences between OS X and OS X server - and OS X is not exactly crippled compared to OS X server (the way that Windows Home is, especially when it comes to things like remote management). Just saying that the various "versions" of OS X are just not as prominently marketed side by side in a way that begs for any direct comparison to the way MS markets Windows (and 64 bit windows, and windows CE - or is it windows mobile now).
post #54 of 189
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Originally Posted by lamewing View Post

... There are some very nice slates out there on the PC side. I could see Apple making a well designed slate.

As long as it isn't too expensive college students would snap them up...

I'm not sure how this is anything other than a recipe for disappointment. Mention a "very nice" category, which is already outside the netbook's generally bandied-about price point of $400-600. Ask Apple to do something better. Then ask that it not be "too expensive". The "very nice slates" I've seen are pretty pricey.
post #55 of 189
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Netbooks do use 3G. Netbooks have sold well in Europe because they are subsidized with 3G wireless plans.

But in the use, which 3G do you support? I could be wrong, but for much of the rest of the world, don't they pretty much use the same 3G technology? So Apple could sell the tablet with a 3G chipset and the customer could use whichever 3G provider they wanted.

But in the US, the two major providers use incompatible technology, which I believe requires different chips. It's bad enough that the iPhone is tied to ATT (therefore, I will never get one). But if we are talking a more capable device, it will house more of my data, likely have more advanced (ie, more expensive) applications, etc, then I don't want it tied to a carrier that I may not have or may not keep down the road. There could be too much invested (time, money, etc) in my device that "locked in" to a single carrier would have a whole new meaning.
post #56 of 189
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Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post

While I agree that the multitude of Windows versions is ridiculous, have you not heard of OS X Server? It is a different version of Mac OS X, so that makes two versions, and isn't the iPhone OS derived from Mac OS X? so three versions. Yeah okay, so the iPhone OS is part of the appliance and OS X server may not apply to the general computing public, and there ay not be a very long list of differences between OS X and OS X server - and OS X is not exactly crippled compared to OS X server (the way that Windows Home is, especially when it comes to things like remote management). Just saying that the various "versions" of OS X are just not as prominently marketed side by side in a way that begs for any direct comparison to the way MS markets Windows (and 64 bit windows, and windows CE - or is it windows mobile now).

He's only referring to the consumer PC versions of Windows. He didn't mention any of MS' server of mobile OSes. MS has 6, Apple has 1. MS could make one, but their business model doesn't work that way.
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post #57 of 189
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

But in the US, the two major providers use incompatible technology, which I believe requires different chips. It's bad enough that the iPhone is tied to ATT.

Precisely what I was thinking.
post #58 of 189
Yes that is a dilemma and the likely reason why Apple is not currently using 3G chips in its portables. If you are going to use a netbook it makes sense to offer 3G as an option. At the same time I'm not really arguing that Apple will introduce a netbook either.

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But in the use, which 3G do you support? I could be wrong, but for much of the rest of the world, don't they pretty much use the same 3G technology? So Apple could sell the tablet with a 3G chipset and the customer could use whichever 3G provider they wanted.
post #59 of 189
"Not an apples to apples comparison.
A tower is not the same as a small form-factor (sff) PC (Mini is sff)
Go price a sff PC and you'll find it is more expensive than the Mini." <--DeanShu


Would a Dell Studio Hybrid be sff? Not exactly the same specs, but at $449 (25% less) it's pretty comparable.

- Intel® Pentium™ Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache)
- Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic Service Pack 1
- No Monitor (System includes DVI and HDMI ports. VGA is not supported)
- Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive)
- 2GB1 Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz (2 DIMM)
- 160GB2 SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
- Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
- Integrated Stereo Audio with 5.1ch digital output (S/P DIF)
- 1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,3 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis4
post #60 of 189
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Originally Posted by retiarius View Post

Recall that Dow Jones is now owned by Rupert Murdoch.

haha...what possible relevance does this have?
post #61 of 189
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

But in the US, the two major providers use incompatible technology, which I believe requires different chips. It's bad enough that the iPhone is tied to ATT (therefore, I will never get one).

I'm quite happy with my AT&T service. I'm glad Apple didn't team with Verizon for several reasons, but mostly because my iPhone wouldn't work in most of the world if it was CDMA based.
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post #62 of 189
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Originally Posted by Microsoft Windows Fan View Post

Seriously, the only thing that apple has is the Mac Mini which is overpriced. Apple needs a netbook sooner or later. Or Windows 7 will kick their @#%() with its cheap cost.

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post #63 of 189
From a technical standpoint no that Dell is still not exactltly the same as the Mac mini.
The Dell uses an older and far slower graphics chip. Has an 800 front side bus, the mini uses a 1066 front side bus. The Dell uses older 667MHz DDR2 memory while the mini uses newer 1066MHz DDR3 memory.

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Would a Dell Studio Hybrid be sff? Not exactly the same specs, but at $449 (25% less) it's pretty comparable.
post #64 of 189
a 9 inch screen? do i mount my Mac 128k on hinges?

or did someone dig up those eMates?
post #65 of 189
There are three possible definitions of the term "NetBook":

1. A laptop computer reduced in weight and dimensions to be optimally portable while retaining functionality. This is the MacBook Air solution. It reduces weight and dimensions by omitting optical drive, while retaining large screen and large keyboard. It is not low-cost, but is in a similar price range to similar devices from Sony and Dell.

2. A laptop computer reduced in weight, dimensions and specifications to be both portable and low cost. This is the typical "netbook" solution. It reduces weight, dimensions and cost by omitting optical drive, reducing screen and keyboard size and lowering overall quality. It started out as a Linux device as a cost-saving solution, but recently managed to achieve similar results with Windows OS.

3. A portable device optimised for internet connectivity. This is the iPod touch and iPhone solution. It reduces weight and dimensions by omitting all but the most essential hardware, while using a powerful OS and a touch screen to achieve optimal functionality. When mobile network operators costs and subsidies are removed from the equation, an iPod touch at $230 costs less than any of the typical "netbook" solutions. It has better quality and functionality, but a lower screen size.

Sales figures suggest that laptop-style netbooks have slightly less than 20% of the total laptop market by volume. About 10 manufacturers are selling more than 20 netbook models, so each model has about 1% market share at best. Apple's MacBooks have over 30% of this market by sales which are clearly more profitable. Apple's iPhone and iPods sell many times these numbers compared to laptops.

Clearly, there is a huge opportunity for Apple to offer a device similar to the iPod touch but with a bigger screen, provided it can find a way to combine this with offering the greatest value from its combination of iTunes music, videos and apps, especially games. How such a device would work will also depend on whether it comes with a service plan, like the iPhone, or with only WiFi, such as the iPod touch.

Here in Japan, netbooks (plus dongle) are being offered at zero cost by mobile operators in exchange for a two-year sign up, just as the iPhone is. Would people sign on to a reporter's notebook sized Apple iPod touch style device on similar terms? Of course they would. Would it help if they only needed to pay for one contract and could use both devices for not much more than the cost of one? Could Apple deliver this?
post #66 of 189
There are three possible definitions of the term "NetBook":

1. A laptop computer reduced in weight and dimensions to be optimally portable while retaining functionality. This is the MacBook Air solution. It reduces weight and dimensions by omitting optical drive, while retaining large screen and large keyboard. It is not low-cost, but is in a similar price range to similar devices from Sony and Dell.

2. A laptop computer reduced in weight, dimensions and specifications to be both portable and low cost. This is the typical "netbook" solution. It reduces weight, dimensions and cost by omitting optical drive, reducing screen and keyboard size and lowering overall quality. It started out as a Linux device as a cost-saving solution, but recently managed to achieve similar results with Windows OS.

3. A portable device optimised for internet connectivity. This is the iPod touch and iPhone solution. It reduces weight and dimensions by omitting all but the most essential hardware, while using a powerful OS and a touch screen to achieve optimal functionality. When mobile network operators costs and subsidies are removed from the equation, an iPod touch at $230 costs less than any of the typical "netbook" solutions. It has better quality and functionality, but a lower screen size.

Sales figures suggest that laptop-style netbooks have slightly less than 20% of the total laptop market by volume. About 10 manufacturers are selling more than 20 netbook models, so each model has about 1% market share at best. Apple's MacBooks have over 30% of this market by sales which are clearly more profitable. Apple's iPhone and iPods sell many times these numbers compared to laptops.

Clearly, there is a huge opportunity for Apple to offer a device similar to the iPod touch but with a bigger screen, provided it can find a way to combine this with offering the greatest value from its combination of iTunes music, videos and apps, especially games. How such a device would work will also depend on whether it comes with a service plan, like the iPhone, or with only WiFi, such as the iPod touch.

Here in Japan, netbooks (plus dongle) are being offered at zero cost by mobile operators in exchange for a two-year sign up, just as the iPhone is. Would people sign on to a reporter's notebook sized Apple iPod touch style device on similar terms? Of course they would. Would it help if they only needed to pay for one contract and could use both devices for not much more than the cost of one? Could Apple deliver this?
post #67 of 189
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Would a Dell Studio Hybrid be sff? Not exactly the same specs, but at $449 (25% less) it's pretty comparable.

- Intel® Pentium Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache)
- Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic Service Pack 1
- Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100

Closer, but there are some really aspects to the system. You choose a Pentium with 1MB L2 over a C2D with 3MB L2. I think that Pentium cost about $40. Then you haven't upgraded to the best version of Windows Vista, which is more comparable to Mac OS X, though that would be price prohibitive for that machine and not even run all the PCU intensive bells and whistles offered. The IGP in the new Mac Mini is considerably better than the X3100, though in fairness the X3100 is better than the GM950 that was available in the Mini just a week ago.
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post #68 of 189
Breaking News! It's an absolutely gorgeous Apple-branded leather bound spiral notebook with a built-in digital clock, 1/4" thin calculator, stretchy pen holder and exclusive machined aluminum clipboard! Confirmed!!!

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post #69 of 189
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Originally Posted by aal234 View Post

Plus it will probably be used to justify the higher price point.

Yes I am being anal but what is the difference between 'price' and 'price point'?
post #70 of 189
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Originally Posted by travisc77 View Post

"Not an apples to apples comparison.
A tower is not the same as a small form-factor (sff) PC (Mini is sff)
Go price a sff PC and you'll find it is more expensive than the Mini." <--DeanShu


Would a Dell Studio Hybrid be sff? Not exactly the same specs, but at $449 (25% less) it's pretty comparable.

- Intel® Pentium Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache)
- Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic Service Pack 1
- No Monitor (System includes DVI and HDMI ports. VGA is not supported)
- Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive)
- 2GB1 Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz (2 DIMM)
- 160GB2 SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
- Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
- Integrated Stereo Audio with 5.1ch digital output (S/P DIF)
- 1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,3 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis4

Comparable? Hardly. A GMA X3100 vs. an Nvidia 9400, for one thing. Then you are talking about Vista Home Basic, the crummy version. The mini comes with Leopard and iLife '09. The Mini also has much faster RAM (1066MHz DDR3), which is twice as significant when talking about machines with shared video memory.

A lot to lose for 150 bucks. And then your higher electric bill will take the $150 away too, over a couple of years.

IMHO, The mini is an excellent value for the money. Probably the best price/performace ratio of the whole line, except perhaps for the unibody MacBooks.
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Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post

Yes I am being anal but what is the difference between 'price' and 'price point'?

There's just one point of difference.

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post #72 of 189
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Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post

Maybe. But I have a first generation iPhone. It cost $599. For everybody waiting for a bigger tablet, thinking that it'll cost $600, please keep that in mind. My iPhone cost $600. The new ones reportedly still do, only their price has been buried beneath the AT&T subsidy.

If you're wanting a tablet with a bigger screen at the same price point, it'll have to be at the expense of some other features, and I can't imagine what that would be. If anything, we'll want the bigger screen PLUS a lot of features. How is it gonna come in at $600. (And of course, if it ever did, there would be an outcry because the week before a rumor would spread that it was going to be $400, but that's another issue).

If it is a phone, it will be subsidized. If it's not also a phone, then the proper comparison is to the iPod touch which is $229/299/399. The iPod touch launch was almost two years ago; the CPU got a slight boost last year and a few minor features. Since then, the ARM chips have moved to its next generation (at about the same cost), plus Apple has PA Semi adding its tweaks. Plus, it may have a low-power Nvidia GPU, and Snow Leopard tweaks to use it. Also, flash memory has come down in price (around 50% less).

So compared to iPod touch, this "tablet" has a much larger touch screen display, a GPU, and a larger battery. I could see it at $599.
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Yes I am being anal but what is the difference between 'price' and 'price point'?

price point
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a point on a scale of possible prices at which something might be marketed.

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I understand what you are saying, but I think anything much larger than 9" would be too difficult to hold and use with only two hands. It should be small enough to be able to: A) hold on the sides with both hands and type on the onscreen keyboard with your thumbs, and B) hold in one hand with enough leverage (hold it steady) to be able to do gestures with the other hand. If you make it so big that I need to set it down to use it, I might as well just use a laptop.

Did you see Elgan's prediction at Computerworld?

http://blogs.computerworld.com/apple...folding_iphone
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Originally Posted by Alonso Perez View Post

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'll bet that a midget MacBook Air is most definitely NOT coming.

It will be a pad. A bluetooth physical keyboard might be included or be optional. It won't run full-blown OS/X.

It won't be a clamshell, because clamshells are not good for hand-held use. There has to be a way to get the keyboard completely out of the way, or detached, and to use the device in either portrait or landscape mode.

Just a thought, but if you have a rugged shell front cover that slides off, reverse slides in the back you can carry it around and use it without fear of damage. It's not a phone so a slide locking [magnetically locking] case with grooves on the side could be cool.
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

Oh great. Apple's stock price is going to go up 5% on this news today. Then in a few days when it proves to be false, the stock will drop 10% in disappointment.

The Dow is up 4.5% and the NASDAQ up 6% as of this writing. Apple and Amazon up 6%, MS up 7% and RiM up 9%.
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Originally Posted by solsun View Post

Well Teckstud, I actually agree with you..

This idea that Apple is going to sell a 7-9-inch netbook for $599 is a joke.

3.5" iPhone = $599 ($199 + $400 from AT&T)

13" MBA = $1799

There is NO WAY that a 7-9-inch Apple branded device will sell for the same amount they sell the iPhone for. Not a chance.

With the MBA, Apple have proven that portability has it's price.

Not to be anal, but IF Apple were to make a 7-9 inch netbook/UMPC the price of their current lineup which would need to be extrapolated from is not the iPhone but the iPod Touch. The iPhone has components in it that this new machine would not need, unless Apple is going to give it 3G access, which I highly doubt.

So, what you would be looking at is

3.5" iPod Touch with 32GB $375

Now consider also that if they make this fabled "netbook" have a 7-9 inch screen then it would likely have more room for components, thus the actual cost could remain close to the same for the "computer" parts while increasing in power simply because of the larger size. As for the screen, it is likely that the 7-9 inch screen may not even cost much more than the 3.5 inch screen.

So, given these things. I could see Apple selling a 7-9 inch netbook/UMPC for around $500-$600.

Of course, I wouldn't put money on this fabled device arriving any time soon, so it all might be moot.
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Well Teckstud, I actually agree with you..

This idea that Apple is going to sell a 7-9-inch netbook for $599 is a joke.

3.5" iPhone = $599 ($199 + $400 from AT&T)

13" MBA = $1799

There is NO WAY that a 7-9-inch Apple branded device will sell for the same amount they sell the iPhone for. Not a chance.

With the MBA, Apple have proven that portability has it's price.

3.5" 8GB iPod touch = $229 (no subsidy)

Alas, there's a difference in price between an Intel Core 2 Duo (including all its supporting chips) and an ARM-based chip (and its support). There's also a lot fewer chips/circuitry/connectors in iPod touch than in MBA.
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So compared to iPod touch, this "tablet" has a much larger touch screen display, a GPU, and a larger battery. I could see it at $599.

Your argument is reasonable, but you rarely go wrong with Apple by assuming a price on the high end of whatever range you expect. My guess is at least $699 or higher, for a 7" touch device similar to a large iPod Touch.
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Why not something like this?

http://news.cnet.com/1606-2_3-50005371.html

I really like that idea, and I think Apple could do a really good job with designing the "dock/keyboard" feature...

(this is my first post, but I've been browsing here for ages)

I cannot believe no one has commented on this…

I watch the video that is linked, I think of the claims of an "application unknown" touchscreen being made for Apple, and I imagine something that blends the video device (but with a cleaner screen to keyboard connection) with this old mockup…





And just maybe a new feature in the 24" LED Cinema Display…?!?





Seriously though, watch the linked video, and think to yourself, "What Would Apple Do?"

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