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Originally Posted by tumme-totte View Post

They aren't Microsoft or Palm you know - they UPDATE their stuff!

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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

I'm surprised they are branding it the "iPhone OS 3.0" when it also is on iPod's.
I think "Mobile OS X 3.0" would be more appropriate but doesn't roll off the tongue.

Speaking of iPod...$10 upgrade?

I also hope this relates to the 10" touch panels we have been hearing about.
I want a full size Document reader that works with my PDFs.

Push notification?
more Bluetooth profiles?
Tethering?
Copy-Paste?
Better organizing of Apps?

the new iphone/touch hardware is supposed to be a quad core CPU and better 3d graphics. there is a rumor of a new premium app store with $20 games and EA being an early partner.

In the next few years Apple is going to wipe the floor with almost every handheld gadget maker out there
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Originally Posted by Galley View Post

At worst, it will cost you $10 to upgrade the OS. I don't see a new iPod touch coming out anytime soon.

I don't see the operating system update coming out any time soon either. A buyer of a Touch today would get a few months use out of it before an update is available.

I wouldn't expect a new Touch until the next mega iPod event in the August-October time frame.
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Originally Posted by Olternaut View Post

Full native multitasking. Web apps never really took off for the iphone. Iphone Web apps made people want to barf.

Who says it doesn't have native multi-tasking now? Its OS X afterall.
post #44 of 181
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making it likely that it will also add Street View

Don't we already HAVE street view?? I'm confused
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Originally Posted by Olternaut View Post

Plus copy and paste!
I would be kinda cool if Apple is able to upstage Palm's WebOS and come out with something better. That would take the wind out of Palm's sails. And it would make McNamee shut up.

Have you seen WebOS? It won't take much to upstage what looks like 'Mobile HyperCard' (as much as I loved HyperCard.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXS3SQauwPE
post #46 of 181
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Originally Posted by Jensonb View Post

Bummer, I wanted to see Snow Leopard.

Yeah, me too, but I'll take iPhone 3.0 just the same so not a total bummer for me.

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Originally Posted by tazinlwfl View Post

Don't we already HAVE street view?? I'm confused

Yeah, me too
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post #47 of 181
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Who says it doesn't have native multi-tasking now? Its OS X afterall.

I too am certain that iPhone OS has multi-tasking right now, but app developers aren't allowed to use it.

Other than saving the state of an app, I don't remember all the reasons why people said it's helpful for a phone, though things like the advanced push system wouldn't be as important.
post #48 of 181
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Originally Posted by GTL215 View Post

Seriously - I pray for copy/paste ONLY because it will make everyone shutup about not having it. I've had the iPhone since day 1 almost two years ago and found myself wanting copy/paste MAYBE two or three times.

As opposed to me, who needs it almost daily.
post #49 of 181
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Originally Posted by FusionFox View Post

I'm hoping that Apple has been listening to complaints and looking at their customers outside the US and is going to throw MMS in with all of these.
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Completely agreed. Although MMS may seem irrelevant, it is a huge issue that many consumers miss, myself included. Some people even forego an iPhone BECAUSE it is missing basic features like this.

I suppose in Apple's perfect universe, everyone would have an iPhone, or at least a device that handles photos in a compatible way. But they don't, and that is why MMS is so important: other people's phones use MMS and DO NOT have fancy email. So, if we are to be able to communicate with each other and share photos, we need to be able to speak a common language, and right now the iPhone is doing the equivalent of speaking some bizarre dialect of French in an English speaking world. In the Apple view, it is just obviosuly sooooo supperior, everyone should switch. But that attitude doesn't address or solve the actual problem.

Here is how it plays out for me all the time: friend or family member X wants to send me a picture of their cute kid / vacation / dog / cat / whatever. They snap it on their phone and send it to my phone number. Guess what? On 99% plus of the phones out there, that message goes out as MMS. For me that means this: I will not get to see it through my photo application, save it in my photo roll, etc. Instead, I will get some funky notification from AT&T telling me to go to their web site to look at a tiny, scaled down version of the picture that I can't see in a better resolution and that I can't save. Frankly speaking, I am tired of getting these text messages to go see a picture that someone sent me mobil to mobil; i'd rather just get the picture. This isn't a hard technology problem - there is some weird resistance at Apple, I think.

By the way, guess what other conspicuous feature absence becomes blatantly apparent when you get these MMS texts from AT&T? You guessed it: the password and ID they send for their picture forwarding site are long strings of random characters - very hard to remember. Sure would be nice to be able to, oh, say... copy and paste.
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... making it likely that it will also add Street View, a feature Google debuted in showing off the mapping capabilities of its Android platform.

Isn't this here already? You guys don't use maps on iPhone?
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple on Thursday announced plans to hold a special media event for journalists on its Cuper...making it likely that it will also add Street View, a feature Google debuted in showing off the mapping capabilities of its Android platform.

Dunno about you, by my iPhone's Google Maps has had Street View for a while!
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Originally Posted by BlackPepper View Post

Isn't this here already? You guys don't use maps on iPhone?

Sorry, BlackPepper! I searched right before I built that post, but we were writing at about the same time...
post #53 of 181
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Originally Posted by fraklinc View Post

Copy and Paste would be nice but i rather them to focus on other stuff, i mean sure the iphone is missing a lot of common things but at least Safari has is not chocking when browsing the web something others have been try to do for years and are still working on it with no luck lol.

While I agree that the iPhone is a wonderful device, the absence of a basic feature like copy / paste is baffling. Apple is a big company with significant resources, and should have been able to fix this by now. The absence of copy and paste from any computing device in this day and age is just a really puzzling oversight that Apple needs to correct. It's a bit like buying a Lexus with manual windows. Yes, it's just an annoyance... but why would the manufacturer bring the car to market with such an obvious shortcoming, and then persist in it for multiple versions and product upgrades? It just makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post

Sorry, BlackPepper! I searched right before I built that post, but we were writing at about the same time...

I was still the first to post about it, so :-P
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

I was asking a rhetorical question, it wasn't aimed at the article itself. Many people have been saying that the iPhone is growing stale and everyone else is catching up. My point essentially is Apple has not been sitting on its hands.

As long as the iPhone remains stuck with AT&T and its bad connections it's gets staler by the day. The real growth is with the Touch. Free up the iPhone now.
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"complaints"
"missing functions"

It is interesting to note that there are millions of iPhone owners who bought the devices knowing their abilities; there are also some who bought before thinking. I've had one since last year and have no complaints; there are some functions I would like to see added, but I am more than happy with my iPhone because it does what I thought it would do.

Apple made a device that may or may not be for some people. Often it is the people the device was not made for that are the loudest about attacking it. Brings back memories of the MacBook Air complainers who never actually owned it yet wasted many hours bashing it while the owners were getting work done on them.

Apple made a function set. If you aren't happy with it, don't buy it and give Apple feedback so they might incorporate the functions in a future model.

 

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post #57 of 181
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post

Dunno about you, by my iPhone's Google Maps has had Street View for a while!

My iPhone software is up to date, but I am yet to figure out how to use street view. Satellite images works fine, but I can't figure out street view - what am I doing wrong?
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Originally Posted by GTL215 View Post

My iPhone software is up to date, but I am yet to figure out how to use street view. Satellite images works fine, but I can't figure out street view - what am I doing wrong?

When you drop a pin or do a search, click the little icon (orange or red) next to the name
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post #60 of 181
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Originally Posted by GTL215 View Post

I agree. I'm not gonna complain about it, since the iPhone is great in many other ways, but I'd definitely like to see MMS. I find this missing feature to be more of an inconvenience than copy/paste.

I agree, I rarely need MMS, but just ocasionally I want to send someone with a 'normal' phone a picture. It's hardly that important, but I'd like it there.
post #61 of 181
My wish list:

-copy/paste
-bluetooth options
-multi tasking, background apps
-more GPS functions (live search, turn by turn, etc.)
-MMS
-Push Gmail
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When you drop a pin or do a search, click the little icon (orange or red) next to the name

ahhh...thanks!
post #63 of 181
The success of the iPhone is because of AT&T. Left to Verizon there never would have been an iPhone.

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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

As long as the iPhone remains stuck with AT&T and its bad connections it's gets staler by the day. The real growth is with the Touch. Free up the iPhone now.
post #64 of 181
New theory by someone over at 9to5 mac....

Someone thinks that the new iphone 3.0 SDK will allow apps to be resolution independent. And that in turn would suggest that more devices with different dimensions than the regular iphone are soon to follow.

Oooohhhh........Aahhhhhhhhh!!
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Its likely a philosophical difference. Apple is well known to not support technology it feels is old or irrelevant. Apple feels MMS is an inferior technology to email and does not want to support it. Newer phones are gaining email, eventually given time MMS will be phased out.

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Originally Posted by ttupper View Post

Completely agreed. Although MMS may seem irrelevant, it is a huge issue that many consumers miss, myself included. Some people even forego an iPhone BECAUSE it is missing basic features like this.

This isn't a hard technology problem - there is some weird resistance at Apple, I think.
post #67 of 181
You don't have to be an Apple fan to do some research and look at the pros and cons of a product before you purchase it. I would call that smart shopping.

If you purchase a product that does not perform a function that it was never promised to perform and you becomes angry. Its your fault for not doing the proper research. That has nothing to do with being a fan, that simple common sense.

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May I just say that this is a silly attitude? Here is a blunt point: Apple has no right, and would be unwise in doing so... to expect the majority of its consumers to be rabid fan-boys willing to overlook obvious problems because they are so enamored with Steve Jobs' brilliance. That's a point Steve himself seems to get, so it is amazing to me that fans such as yourself do not.

Doesn't seem quite so clever now, eh?
post #68 of 181
To me the fact that Apple has decided to jump to three instead of some sort of 2.X tells me that they are doing a complete overhaul to the OS, like when it first went to 2.0.

If Apple by now has not added copy/paste or MMS, I don't think they plan to at all. Especially since now that the App store is open, third parties are doing things like that. I might be wrong, and have seen it in Cydia, but I'm pretty sure I saw a MMS application in the App store. It would be nice to have them, but I am not holding my breath.

I will be happy with whatever Apple decides to add, I am happy with my iPhone as it is, it is imperfect, but it could be better. I read somewhere before that Adobe was working with Apple to bring Flash to the phone, that would be extremely helpful to browse the "real" internet. Another function that would be nice: landscape SMS. If I can use the landscape keyboard in the browser, it is frustrating to know I can't on SMS.
post #69 of 181
Give me:
  1. Picture Messages
  2. A Horizontal Keyboard when texting
  3. GPS turn by turn w/ VOICE directions (and the ability to turn this on/off easily)
  4. Built-in Voice Dialing
  5. A light when I have a missed call (hardware but im putting it here anyways)
  6. COPY & PASTE
  7. A better looking dock at the bottom (that resembles Leopard)
  8. When i go to the app store, an option to "Install in the background" instead of taking me back to the home screen and making me re-launch the app store when i want to install more apps

Anything less would be uncivilized.
post #70 of 181
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Originally Posted by GTL215 View Post

I agree. I'm not gonna complain about it, since the iPhone is great in many other ways, but I'd definitely like to see MMS. I find this missing feature to be more of an inconvenience than copy/paste.

MMS /and/ delivery notifications for SMS please! Actually, I can live without mms, but hacking the latter is a right pain.
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The two features I want to get is Home Screen folders and the ability to organize from with iTunes. I fully expect to get the first one.

One reason I don't load and reuse as many App Store apps a I want is the navigation is getting out of hand. There are just too many items to organize on the pages. dragging one app at a time to put all my games on the last page is tedious. And once they are setup going through the pages can be rough. I want a folder on the Home Screen that once clicked keeps the bottom row the same and displays the items in that folder; the upper left icon displaying Apple's back arrow for moving up a hierarchy with the back arrow named the same as the folder you just clicked. This would allow for folder within folders but you won't get lost because clicking the physical Home button will bring back out, like it sends you to the first page with the current OS build.

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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

All Apple has to do is implement the new functionality of HTML 5 and allow web apps to have local access to system resources and that's pretty much most the advantages of Palm Pre.

I don't expect, or want, 3rd-party app multitasking in a cellphone that already gets a battery drain too quickly from my excessive daily use. I do like your idea that Apple could just update WebKit to a newer version (which is expected), probably to a 100/100 score on Acid3, though still not passing due to speed issues, and allow for HTML5 localizing like the Pre with it's weak 3rd-party multitasking claims.


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Originally Posted by Roc Ingersol View Post

Wouldn't rolling out the 3.0 SDK to devs tip their hand on the next iPhone's updates?

Yes, but it doesn't matter. People will be coming off their current iPhone contracts and some may be coming off contracts with other phones wondering if they should get the new iPhone. The other competitors can't compete with iPhone OS X at this time. Palm is making some claims but their OS is completely untested in the real world. Look at the work the iPhone needed and still needs after 2 years of real world use, and that came with the same Mac OS base that we're use to and all the NeXT development before that. Either Palm is using another OS base or they are going to have to start more simple to reduce fatal SW flaws than they are letting on.


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Originally Posted by Jensonb View Post

Bummer, I wanted to see Snow Leopard.

I think this ne OS will be SL based.


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Originally Posted by Olternaut View Post

Full native multitasking. Web apps never really took off for the iphone. Iphone Web apps made people want to barf.

There were so many web apps for the iPhone that specially formated pages and special icons were including just for the iPhone. I have a feeling that no matter how fast the CPU, how much RAM is included or how long the battery could possibly last for a cellphone that Apple will not allow for uncontrolled 3rd-party SDK multitasking.


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Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post

i'm 99% sure that the push technology in this is licensed from Microsoft. Apple already licenses ActiveSync from MS for the MS Exchange integration. Last month Google licensed it as well for their app store and a lot of other uses other than email. I bet Apple did the same.

I don't think so, unless MS has patents for a notification server that Apple couldn't bypass. I believe that only ActiveSync is licensed and that is for connections with Exchange servers.
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post #73 of 181
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

You don't have to be an Apple fan to do some research and look at the pros and cons of a product before you purchase it. I would call that smart shopping.

If you purchase a product that does not perform a function that it was never promised to perform and you becomes angry. Its your fault for not doing the proper research. That has nothing to do with being a fan, that simple common sense.

No no no Tenobell don't you understand?

The correct procedure for Apple products is to immediately fall in love with them and immediately go ahead with a purchase.
After you use the product you then find stuff you don't like about it and complain.

Didn't you get the memo?
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No MMS please Apple, the world is better off without it.
post #77 of 181
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Originally Posted by ttupper View Post

Apple needs to fix this because it will assist them in selling their devices.

who said they need assistance?? lol
post #78 of 181
Yep,

I would like

- calendar to work with iCal meeting e-mails so one can confirm and invite too meetings thru iPhone without computer

- tethering is indeed wanted. I love my NetShare....

- sync media thru WiFi

- iPod DJ

- Wide screen e-mail

- some new insights iPhone OS and Snow Leopard Server! I don't want to have to go for Microsoft for inhouse push, mail, calendar and remote wipe. And better wiki for iPhone!

Yep - some smaller ones...
post #79 of 181
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Originally Posted by ttupper View Post

That's an interesting observation... but I bet you didn't know that a lot of the apps being sold in the app store ARE web apps.

Don't looks so incredulous.

The iPhone SDK lets you through a webView on a pane and point that at resources either locally or on the network. It is remarkably easy to build an app this way.

Please. Well, ok sure.
I guess they are still being made even now out of necessity. And the majority of the pre-existing one must have been thrown into the app store after its debut.
But really.....how many of the 25,000 or so of the applications in the store now are web apps?
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No MMS please Apple, the world is better off without it.

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