iPhone 3.0 adds Copy & Paste, MMS, global Spotlight search - Page 7  

Originally Posted by Haggar

The typical Apple fanboy mentality is "If Apple currently doesn't have it, then it doesn't matter". And they go to great lengths rationalizing Apple's current policies and dismissing anybody who disagrees with Apple. But now Apple has made those fanboys look like total idiots, but those fanboys can't even admit that they were wrong. So the question is will these fanboys learn from this week's events and not be so dismissive in the future? Or will they continue dismissing people's requests, only to look stupid again later on? For example:

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really really SWEET.

Apple should not implement copy and paste in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about copy and paste in the iPhone.

Apple should not implement MMS in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about MMS.

Apple should not support 3G in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about 3G.

Apple should not put GPS in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about GPS.

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about watching video on an iPod.

Apple should not make laptops easier to service. Nobody needs, wants or cares about ease of service. If Apple makes a laptop the slightest bit easier to service in any way whatsoever, the laptop will be so intolerably large and heavy that it will collapse in on itself and create a black hole.

Apple should not implement preemptive multitasking or memory protection in Mac OS. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about preemptive multitasking and memory protection because Macs never crash.

Apple should not implement dynamic memory allocation in Mac OS. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about dynamic memory allocation. Just click Get Info and change the number yourself.

Apple should not make menus stay open when you click the mouse button once. System 7 menus are better because you have to hold down the mouse button to keep menus open.

Apple will never make a multibutton mouse. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about a multibutton mouse.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

Originally Posted by melgross

By the way, I never said she was a genius. You've been using that word. So, unless you think YOU'RE a genius, in which case when I said she might be smarter than either of us, you felt you had to make that point?

Others have bet against me in the past here with statements like that, and were wrong too.

I got into a big argument, for example, with a few people about Flash and SSD size and pricing. That went on for days. They were willing to bet as well. They were also completely wrong. That's just one example. Good luck on this.

Originally Posted by Haggar

The typical Apple fanboy mentality is "If Apple currently doesn't have it, then it doesn't matter". And they go to great lengths rationalizing Apple's current policies and dismissing anybody who disagrees with Apple. But now Apple has made those fanboys look like total idiots, but those fanboys can't even admit that they were wrong. So the question is will these fanboys learn from this week's events and not be so dismissive in the future? Or will they continue dismissing people's requests, only to look stupid again later on? For example:

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really really SWEET.

Apple should not implement copy and paste in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about copy and paste in the iPhone.

Apple should not implement MMS in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about MMS.

Apple should not support 3G in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about 3G.

Apple should not put GPS in the iPhone. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about GPS.

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about watching video on an iPod.

Apple should not make laptops easier to service. Nobody needs, wants or cares about ease of service. If Apple makes a laptop the slightest bit easier to service in any way whatsoever, the laptop will be so intolerably large and heavy that it will collapse in on itself and create a black hole.

Apple should not implement preemptive multitasking or memory protection in Mac OS. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about preemptive multitasking and memory protection because Macs never crash.

Apple should not implement dynamic memory allocation in Mac OS. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about dynamic memory allocation. Just click Get Info and change the number yourself.

Apple should not make menus stay open when you click the mouse button once. System 7 menus are better because you have to hold down the mouse button to keep menus open.

Apple will never make a multibutton mouse. Nobody needs, wants, or cares about a multibutton mouse.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

Originally Posted by TBaggins

Sorry Mel, but you were somewhat obnoxious (hopefully unintentionally) in your defense of her.

Especially the "she's a millionaire, how much did you make last year" comment. I'm actually very well off financially now (ironically, for much the same reason as Paris- wealthy family with foresight and real estate... and the properties have just now finally been paid off, so it's one heckuva profit machine going forward), but the reasoning behind the whole "if you're rich, you are beyond reproach" jibe is just so... lame. Remember Tactic #1 of the Microsoft fanboi? "Ohh, you guys are just jealous of Bill Gates, 'cuz he's so rich. You just wish you were him."

I mean...barf. It's a loathsome defense, period, because it implies that the rich are beyond criticism because... they're rich. If the current financial crisis has taught us nothing else, it's that the rich and powerful can be quite stupid, and do indeed f*** up plenty. And usually cause way more damage than Joe Sixpack while doing so.

Now, Paris isn't in the same league as a Bernard Madoff or the guys who ran AIG into the ground, not even close. But it is hard to respect someone who's basically 'famous for being famous' and who so consistently turns out such utter crap in terms of movies and music, all the while acting like something of a retard on a sugar high.

When that changes, let me know, and I'll be happy to re-evaluate my opinion of her.

Hey, even Joe Louis gets knocked out of the ring eventually.

No one bats a thousand Mel... not even Stevie J. And if he can't do it, what makes you think you can?
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Apple will never........

Originally Posted by TBaggins

Now, Paris isn't in the same league as a Bernard Madoff or the guys who ran AIG into the ground, not even close. But it is hard to respect someone who's basically 'famous for being famous' and who so consistently turns out such utter crap in terms of movies and music, all the while acting like something of a retard on a sugar high.

When that changes, let me know, and I'll be happy to re-evaluate my opinion of her.

Originally Posted by melgross

Actually, I wasn't, you were. I merely pointed out that she could be smart when you jumped to dismiss her.

Then you went nuts over it. Why do you have such a fixation over her?

I made a simple comment, and you're turning it into a diatribe!

She's made money on her own. More power to her.

I don't know what you're talking about here. This has nothing to do with what we were talking about at all.

My predictions have been pretty good. Why are you bringing Jobs into this?

I'm keeping this local, while you're bringing the whole world into it.

Originally Posted by solipsism

The copy/paste is missing at least one feature I'd like to see before it's released.

In the demo Forestal pasted in the same font, size and colour from where he copied the text, but he didn't show an option to Paste and Match Style. I'd like the ability to hold down the paste button to have additional options appear. The same way you with the keyboard to see accented letters.

Originally Posted by melgross

Somewhere, it was said that it preserves formatting. how far that goes, I don't know, but rarely does cut/paste preserve fonts.

Originally Posted by sisk

... $60/year charge so you don't have to worry about paying PER text? It's obvious that the smarter decision, if you receive text messages sporatically, just to pay the $5 and have it done with instead of worrying about it. Call it extortion call it whatever you want - the simple fact is YOU CHOSE APPLE AND AT&T. In fact, you had 30 days to decide whether or not to keep the service and equipment with only paying a 10% restocking fee on the phone.

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I simply want internet access without being pickpocketed for the other $5. You know, like every other device I own. A phone isn't special anymore, it's just another internet device. It should be priced like one. That $5 is a holdover from a legacy technology. The rest of the money I spend gets me a *LOT* of value for that $30. That $5? Gets me *nothing*. That's the point. It's $5 *wasted*, as opposed to $30 spent for a very useful service.
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Imagine if you were charged by your ISP for every email that you got, regardless of if you wanted it. That's the way it used to be, but consumers demanded that they stop it, and move to a reasonable model. For some reason, that tipping point hasn't occurred in the cell industry...

Originally Posted by solipsism

In the demo it shows it preserving the fonts from where it was copied from. Same as with copying on a Mac.

While I don't expect to use this feature often I do hope I have this option so I don't have to do some workaround, like pasting into the basic text window and then copying again to get vanilla text.

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Imagine if you were charged by your ISP for every email that you got, regardless of if you wanted it. That's the way it used to be, but consumers demanded that they stop it, and move to a reasonable model. For some reason, that tipping point hasn't occurred in the cell industry, and I lay the blame directly at the feet of uneducated consumers who insist that SMS/MMS are 'necessary'. There are options. Use them, shut off your messaging, and dry up the funding source for the carriers.

Originally Posted by Haggar

The typical Apple fanboy mentality is "If Apple currently doesn't have it, then it doesn't matter".

Originally Posted by melgross

Others have bet against me in the past here with statements like that, and were wrong too.

I got into a big argument, for example, with a few people about Flash and SSD size and pricing. That went on for days. They were willing to bet as well. They were also completely wrong. That's just one example. Good luck on this.

Originally Posted by dfiler

By resurecting this thread, you were probably hoping to reputation monger and make yourself look good. But looking back through the past few pages, it has done more to make you look like an annoying jerkwad. MMS is hardly mentioned at all. Instead it is just petty bickering where the original argument is largely lost.

Originally Posted by dfiler

If it isn't for reputation, why did you dredge up a 2 year old squabble?

Originally Posted by TBaggins

By the same token, one could ask you why you care? 'tis a puzzlement.

Well, duh. Juvenile ppl do juvenile things. How does engaging in name-calling do anything other than make you look small?

Originally Posted by nht

You're going to have to wait a lot longer than two years to get him to admit he was wrong.

Originally Posted by dfiler

Why do I care? As a longtime member of this forum, as in real life, ridiculous behavior sometimes merits comment. It is the only way by which the culture of this board is steered in the right direction.