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Originally Posted by gmcalpin View Post

A kit just means it's two 4GB DIMMs; there is nothing else besides the RAM chips. This is universal language when talking about RAM upgrades (just look it up at any store), so Apple isn't being misleading or confusing here.



Why call it a kit and just say, "Oh, by the way, the MBP 2.66 and 2.93 CPU systems support up to 8GB RAM." Is this so hard?

Why buy Apple's "kit" when it is always more expensive and not necessarily the highest quality? Yeah, it is a sales tactic, but sorry it *IS* misleading when they understate their machine's capabilities. Just tell your potential consumers what you support and let them decide what to do next.

I am happy about the fact that the 2.66 and 2.93 will support 8GB, since I plan to buy one within the next few months and the RAM capacity was something that concerned me. I would have kept waiting if the 15" couldn't support 8GB.
post #42 of 80
Well, the article update says it will "definitely" work in the 2.53 GHz and if that's the case, WOO! But it doesn't totally jibe with the answer I got from Apple myself, so I'm a little skeptical.

I was going to wait for prices to fall (and I bought it resigned to the idea that I would only be able to have 4GB in it anyway), so it's really not a big deal, but it would be nice to know for certain I could upgrade my RAM and add another couple of years of life into my MBP.

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Originally Posted by Carcarius

Why call it a kit and just say, "Oh, by the way, the MBP 2.66 and 2.93 CPU systems support up to 8GB RAM." Is this so hard?

2 RAM chips sold together are always called kits. It is an industry-wide ("universal") term.

Be my guest and backpedal and now say it's "misleading" that they haven't updated the MBP's tech spec page to say it supports 8GB yet not about the fact that they used the word "kit" but the word "kit" is not misleading; you're just ignorant.
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Originally Posted by StLBluesFan View Post

$1200??? How can anyone justify this price? Oh wait, it's an Apple forum.

Wait 3 months and buy it from NOT apple and it will cost $200.
post #44 of 80
This is nice and all, but who here was actually going to spend at least $980 just to upgrage their RAM from 4 to 8GB?
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Originally Posted by rbonner View Post

Other World Computing has the 4 GB SIMM for $370, works great, I have it next to my 2GB stock SIMM. A slight performance hit with the mis-matched pair, but the extra memory more than compensates.

The only reason I could see to purchase the Apple memory is for warranty reasons. Make sure you save your original memory if you need to send the unit into the repair depot, they insist on having it sent back stock.

Probably because they're selling you 4 *MB* SIMMs relabeled as 4 GB. SIMMs are so 1980s!
post #46 of 80
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I think there was an article here on AI that mentioned testing on the unibody MB and MBP (excluding the 17") indicate that they can accept 6 GB RAM max and if you put 8 GB of RAM the system will only recognize 6 GB. I think it was sometime last Nov.

When those models were first released some numbnuts over at macrumors got their grubby little paws on some 4gb dimms and tested it. 6gb 2+4 worked fine but when you put in 8 4+4 the system could see it but not use it and then would run really slow and have a crash. Badly. So there must have been some other upgrade when they bumped the processor.
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post #47 of 80
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

This is nice and all, but who here was actually going to spend at least $980 just to foible their RAM from 4 to 8GB?

"Foible"? Foible is a noun; it means "a flaw." What?

But I get what you're trying to say, and no, I'm not going to spend $1000 to double my MBP's RAM but I'd be happy to know that when 4GB RAM chips go way down in a year or two, I'll have that option.
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post #48 of 80
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This is nice and all, but who here was actually going to spend at least $980 just to foible their RAM from 4 to 8GB?

I just about fell off my seat when I saw the 4GB prices to upgrade the iMac (or anything else) to 8GB. Kingston & Crucial are a little cheaper (from their website) but nonetheless, that's a serious chunk of change. For that price, I'll get more bang from my buck by just getting a second monitor and wait (a while) for memory prices to come back down.

It would be nice if they could somehow have implemented a four-slot design so that we could just use 2GB modules but I realize space would be an issue.

Ouch!
post #49 of 80
only idiots buy their ram at apple anyway
post #50 of 80
Here's some more coverage on this:

Gizmodo:
http://tinyurl.com/clqc3c

Macrumors:
http://tinyurl.com/4qjq2c

Maybe 10.5.7 will patch software limitations with addressing 8GB??? We'll see.
post #51 of 80
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Originally Posted by gmcalpin View Post

"Foible"? Foible is a noun; it means "a flaw." What?

Weird iPhone spelling correction. That is a new word for me.


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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

It would be nice if they could somehow have implemented a four-slot design so that we could just use 2GB modules but I realize space would be an issue.

I don't think it's possible. The only notebooks I've seen with more than 2 slots for notebook-grade RAM are large gaming notebooks that are using desktop-grade CPUs.
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post #52 of 80
Who is that standing behind you?
post #53 of 80
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Originally Posted by gmcalpin View Post

2 RAM chips sold together are always called kits. It is an industry-wide ("universal") term.

Be my guest and backpedal and now say it's "misleading" that they haven't updated the MBP's tech spec page to say it supports 8GB yet not about the fact that they used the word "kit" but the word "kit" is not misleading; you're just ignorant.

You never understood my post. Try reading between the lines. A "kit" is a marketing term for selling a "bundle" of a computer product. No fooling, great, I am glad you know the definition.

My point is, who cares about the industry term that is used? I want to know how much RAM the MBP 15" supports just like ANYONE else. Apple could just state this up front and save anyone the trouble of questioning the MBP's capabilities. The sales and marketing tactics are silly.
post #54 of 80
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Originally Posted by federmoose View Post

W/e. I'll send the computer into Apple again when I have time. That'll be repair 2 out of 5. Once I hit 5 over lifetime... time for a free new computer baby .

I'm on my 5th display repair for my early 2007 MBP and the manager said "we don't do replacements for environmental issues" The problems I've had are 2x dust, 1x uneven backlight, and 1x flickering.

That's on top of the 2 keyboard replacements, 2 batteries, motherboard, fan assembly, keyboard assembly, and wrist rest/trackpad ( because too many repairs had warped the case).

So this is not a hard and fast rule.
post #55 of 80
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Originally Posted by StLBluesFan View Post

$1200??? How can anyone justify this price? Oh wait, it's an Apple forum.

whippersnappers.... I remember paying $10,000 for a 40 MB hard disk in the 80's
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Originally Posted by roehlstation View Post

whippersnappers.... I remember paying $10,000 for a 40 MB hard disk in the 80's

I bet at the time, you were thinking, "MAN, I'm never gonna fill up this thing! Who could possibly need 40 MEGABYTES OF SPACE?!"
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post #57 of 80
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I just about fell off my seat when I saw the 4GB prices to upgrade the iMac (or anything else) to 8GB. Kingston & Crucial are a little cheaper (from their website) but nonetheless, that's a serious chunk of change. For that price, I'll get more bang from my buck by just getting a second monitor and wait (a while) for memory prices to come back down.

It would be nice if they could somehow have implemented a four-slot design so that we could just use 2GB modules but I realize space would be an issue.

Ouch!

Its a chicken and egg situation the RAM vendors will need to sell it cheaper to get the volume up. But because of stupid 32bit cheap crappy windows boxes we will not enjoy the cheaper prices like with the intel transition.
post #58 of 80
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Originally Posted by l33tpmp View Post

At $1200 for the 8GB upgrade, the 17" Pro with 8GB is a better deal.

Very good point. If you don't mind the extra weight, the money you'd save by just buying the 17" would be awesome, not to mention the better battery and the larger screen real estate and resolution.

Edit: I mean with the $200 discount on the ram, and considering the 17" is $2,799 vs. $2,499 for the 15", the extra 100 bucks is a small price to pay for the upgrades mentioned above. Of course this only matters if you're planning on getting 8GB no matter which computer you purchase.
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post #59 of 80
I remember watching a contractor tech come around and crack open our corporate SEs to install 2 megabytes of RAM in them. You lost two 256kb sticks, so it totaled out to 2.5mb of RAM per CPU. The price label was right on the package: $970 to more than double your RAM. That was in 1990 dollars.

Later we found accelerator+video cards with a Moto 25MHz 68030 (same as a IIci) and a full-page portrait grayscale monitor for about $1500, and you could drag back and forth between the little Mac 9" screen and the big one. Ran circles around SE30s people used to drool over.

$1200 to double your RAM to 8Gb doesn't seem like so much if you really need it. (Most probably don't... I don't. I got a Mac Pro for that.)

That's right, PC lovers, we were running PageMaker and Illustrator in 2.5mb of RAM and multiple monitors on a networked "toy computer" when the IBM PCs with DOS 3.0 were using about 128kb and running PFSWrite and PFSFile.
post #60 of 80
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Originally Posted by gmcalpin View Post

Is that ECC memory, or non-ECC?

I agree, though; Apple's mark-up is really for the warranty. I'm just tired of asshats complaining about Apple's pricing as if it's something shocking or new.

Why do people say the Apple memory is expensive because of the warranty? 1-3 years tops??

Other memory vendors offer the same memory at less money with a lifetime warranty.

Steve
post #61 of 80
i have a 15" 2.53Ghz MBP with 4gb RAM so heres the trick.....

Wait 3 or 4 months then buy a mac mini + 8gb of DDR3 3rd party Ram when someone else tests it and a 500Gb hard drive......

take the 4 gb out of my MBP and install in the mini along with the hard drive..

make my MBP 8Gb


Happy Days......
post #62 of 80
Apple pulled 15" 2.66GHz memory upgrade options?
http://store.apple.com/us/memoryfamily/ME_MBP
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Originally Posted by darrenscerri View Post

Apple pulled 15" 2.66GHz memory upgrade options?
http://store.apple.com/us/memoryfamily/ME_MBP

Yep.. It's not there anymore!! \

I guess Apple does read AI after all!
post #64 of 80
Honestly I think there are some serious politics on this one. First i think the new MPB 2.66 and 2.93 can take them and actually utilize 8gbs but i think the 2.4 cannot and Apple screwed up in the beginning on that one and has to stick to the story line. Because the previous models 2.8 and such can't either but just these two new ones can and they would have mud on there face if only 2 units can out of 5 that have been released since November. I think they even went as far as telling there ram vendors to stick to this theory as well. There would be a lot of unhappy campers if Apple actually supported the 2.66 and 2.93 with being able to take 8gb. I have 6gb in my 2.93 and I may just buy the damn 4gb chip anyway and if there is no performance gain over the 6gb I have than just sell it. They certainly work with 6gb and I living proof of that and my old 2.4 2006 model as well had 6gb on it. I can't see how the 17 can and the 15 cannot except for sales and the 17 always was behind in sales to the 15. This was a way for Apple to make more sales on the 17 inch. Not sure how long this post will last before it gets deleted but this is marketing pure and simple. There is no other theory in my mind. Anyway whats the worst that can happen it don't work correctly than rip it out if it does not. But that extra 2gbs of Ram is what I want and need so damn the torpedoes I will get a extra 4gb chip here soon. Unless someone can actually proof to me on paper the performance negative hit it will take than I going forward. Let me add I would love to see someone that has 8gbs and show me the performance gain over 6gb and i will buy you lunch. LOL
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Yep.. It's not there anymore!! \

I guess Apple does read AI after all!

http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_15_2_66_MBP
http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_15_2_93_MBP
post #66 of 80
Does this mean the MacBook Pro could have 16, 32, 64, etc. GB of RAM? Would the only limitation be sofware or market demand?
post #67 of 80
Just wander if any luck with 8GB upgrade for MBP 2.53?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by gmcalpin View Post

I was unsatisfied with the previous answer, because I felt that the sales guy was just quoting the tech specs, so I called the Apple Store again, and this time the sales person brought an engineer assistant (or something) on the line to talk with me.

The engineer told me that there was "a very good chance" that the 8GB RAM would work with the 2.53GHz because he was not aware of any major changes to the memory controller, but that Apple doesn't go back to test older systems.

So we're back to square one, I guess. Who wants to test it out on their 15" 2.53 GHz MBP?


I don't know too much about the difference between ECC and non-ECC, but there is a price difference and Apple only sells ECC memory. From what I've read about it, ECC isn't really important for average users.



A kit just means it's two 4GB DIMMs; there is nothing else besides the RAM chips. This is universal language when talking about RAM upgrades (just look it up at any store), so Apple isn't being misleading or confusing here.
post #68 of 80
I will be upgrading my MBP to 8GB when the price drops to $200, which should be in 4 months from now
post #69 of 80
Just wander if anyone tried, and is it working at all? So many groups, but no one said I did it, and it is working or not. Only guesses. Anyone????
post #70 of 80
On Monday, I will install 8GB or DDR3 RAM in Macbook Pro with 2.53 processor, and finally let the world know. So disappointed that so many users, and no one can give such a expertise.
post #71 of 80
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Originally Posted by areiku View Post

On Monday, I will install 8GB or DDR3 RAM in Macbook Pro with 2.53 processor, and finally let the world know. So disappointed that so many users, and no one can give such a expertise.

Out of curiousity, what do you need 8GB for? Photoshop, Aperture, Final Cut, Calculator ?
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post #72 of 80
Video and photo editing on the go, plus VM. Company will cover the cost, so I'm using the chance to get when I can.
post #73 of 80
So this is the end point: Macbook Pro with 2.53 processor works absolutly great with 8GB or RAM. Ram kit was ordered from OWC for total of $665.99
post #74 of 80
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So this is the end point: Macbook Pro with 2.53 processor works absolutly great with 8GB or RAM. Ram kit was ordered from OWC for total of $665.99

Thanks for the info. I will buy it when the price drops to $200 around July.
post #75 of 80
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So this is the end point: Macbook Pro with 2.53 processor works absolutly great with 8GB or RAM. Ram kit was ordered from OWC for total of $665.99

Out of curiosity, what work do you do that requires 8GB RAM? I have 4GB and that is more than enough for all the apps I have running, but I don't do any graphical work on my machine.
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post #76 of 80
Video editing
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Video editing

I hope you make lots of money with that investment.
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post #78 of 80
Thank you. Will try my best
post #79 of 80
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Originally Posted by areiku View Post

Video editing (aka stitching porn clips together)

Fixed.
post #80 of 80
After few days of testing, unfortunate result: doesn't work, hangs the system and get KP. Bummer......
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