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post #41 of 188
4/3/09 at 5:30pm
Of course she's an actress. No company would ever grab a person off the street to put in a commercial. Don't be stupid.
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post #42 of 188
4/3/09 at 5:33pm
jeeez, of course it's all fake, and of course everybody does that! That's the purpose of ads! They trick you into buying shit. People at McDonald's aren't as joyful when they sell you hamburgers. The Wendy's owner was never at the place when I visited. And the Verizon guy has never come by my house checking the wireless signal. Sprint's CEO does not walk NYC in black and white taking to himself.

Danielle Dilger you are the worst pseudo journalist on the internet. How sad.
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post #43 of 188
4/3/09 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by elroth View Post

And California is one of those states? No.

It doesn't matter if it's CA or PA. It's an AD. Not *real* life. Not real, all staged, like American Idol, Wife Swapping Reality Shows, The Steelers' Super Bowl wins, etc... pick your poison.
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post #44 of 188
4/3/09 at 5:40pm
I can't believe we get yet another ridiculous Microsoft bashing thread from AI. Like WTF? As if? Who cares?
Where's the more important sheet like the Woz getting booting off DWTS or the Queen of England receiving an iPod from the President of the United States?
Come on AI- you can do better.
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post #45 of 188
4/3/09 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut View Post

jeeez, of course it's all fake, and of course everybody does that! That's the purpose of ads! They trick you into buying shit. People at McDonald's aren't as joyful when they sell you hamburgers. The Wendy's owner was never at the place when I visited. And the Verizon guy has never come by my house checking the wireless signal. Sprint's CEO does not walk NYC in black and white taking to himself.

On the other hand, none of those commercials EXPLICITLY CLAIMED that the ad was reality. The MS add featuring Lauren de Long DID EXPLICITLY CLAIM that it was an actual real-life experience.

Yes, saavy consumers can be expected to understand that, no matter how earnest the claimant appears, ad men are probably lying (NB: my father and grandfather were both ad men... so I might be biased...) But, the thread here is simply noting that this is an excellent example of the boldest sort of bald-faced untruth: that which comes right out and says, "No, really, this is absolutely true," while still lying.
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post #46 of 188
4/3/09 at 5:53pm
I managed to last 56 seconds into the Songsmith ad, but then I am a fan of the horror genre.
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post #47 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by italiankid View Post

Dude I own Apple products... Ps... The ones I see for Rogers and AT&T don't show that its shortened. I see them all the time...

Ps That is why the european union banned them... Good on them.

I was under the impression the UK banned some of them for stating the iPhone had "all pieces of the internet" which it clearly didn't because of the lack of flash. I could be wrong though.
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post #48 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:09pm
Jesus Fucking Christ! Give it a rest!

We all know that Microsoft is a shitty, evil, lying, thieving scummy company.

Is anyone surprised?

Lauren IS awfully cute, though!


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post #49 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

You shouldn't believe everything you read on the web though.

If you think about it for a second, there is no way Lauren could have been fooled into thinking it was a "market research survey" beyond the point at which she showed up for the first shoot. She probably knew about it even sooner than that.

The ad clearly shows actors walking back and forth on the sidewalk when she enters the Apple store and the same actors again, when she leaves it. If she was being fooled into thinking it was market research, the actors should have tipped her off. If they were really trying hard to fool her (doubtful), they would have even filmed the scenes in sequence so she would have known from the first scene that it was a commercial.

You'd have to be an idiot of the first order to ever think this was a real consumer and pretty dumb to think that maybe she is an actress but was "fooled" into thinking it's market research.

The only rational reason for the film crew *not* letting her in on their intentions would be that they want to "reveal" the truth to her at the end and film her reaction (which they didn't), so why wouldn't they tell her when she first arrives on set (or even sooner) what the deal is?

Actually, it seems quite likely to me that she showed up, participated in the 'market research' study, which was to find a 17" laptop for under $1000. That might not have been filmed. Afterward, they filmed a less spontaneous "reenactment".


Really, though, who knows or cares.. It's an ad.
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post #50 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:25pm
This is just sad this is considered "news."
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post #51 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:39pm
next your going to tell me that Justin Long isnt an *actual* mac.

seriously people, its a commercial, and to be honest they have a good point. there is certainly a large amount of "smug" within the apple community, and you cant get a 17in apple notebook for $1000 at the apple store.

whats to argue about?
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post #52 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:47pm
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It was in Los Angeles, genius.

I really didnt study the Ad like you mac heads do. I got better things to do...

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post #53 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post


Lauren IS awfully cute, though!


She is a hottie and that red hair drives me nuts!


As for her paying $699 for a Vista PC, it looks like she turned down the extended warranty Best Buy loves trying to sell too!
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post #54 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by sisyphus View Post

wow that songsmith commercial is vile, the moment the singing started it felt like a swift kick to the groin


OMG. I felt like punching myself in the face after listening to about 30 sec. of that sh*t. Horrible.
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post #55 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post

Jesus Fucking Christ! Give it a rest!

We all know that Microsoft is a shitty, evil, lying, thieving scummy company.

Is anyone surprised?

Lauren IS awfully cute, though!


All things considered, I don't think Jesus had anything to do with this thread or the "news" story.
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post #56 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:57pm
Good ad. If it has people talking about on either side of the issue it's effective and hence works.
It will be interesting what the follow-up ads will be. This is looking more and more like an all out assault from Miscrosoft after all the slaps Apple has gotten away with for years.
This will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.
I'm finding the Apple iPhone App ads to be kind of annoying actually.
I'm not really surprised though that anyone would be alarmed to think an ad would not use an actor.
There are some really stupid people around these days without common sense and easily manipulated. Look how we elect our leaders.
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post #57 of 188
4/3/09 at 6:59pm
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next your going to tell me that Justin Long isnt an *actual* mac.

Well I did believe Noah Wyle was Steve Jobs.
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post #58 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:02pm
I think one poster back on page 1 caught the real and sad irony... Microsoft is reduced to advertising PCs and can't even muster up the courage to make any mention of Windows or any other of their own products. If you know you're that bad, why advertise at all?

I'm guessing HP payed for a good chunk of the thing. The only hardware names mentioned by name are HP and Apple. Steve Jobs must be laughing.
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post #59 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:09pm
The fact of the matter is that Microsoft targets retarded people. I mean everyone knows Macs are more expensive. So it Acura from Honda. But a lot of people choose Acura (for example)

Microsoft seems to fail at all it does. Where my big ass table by the way?
Apple had me at scrolling
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post #60 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:12pm
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I think one poster back on page 1 caught the real and sad irony... Microsoft is reduced to advertising PCs and can't even muster up the courage to make any mention of Windows or any other of their own products. If you know you're that bad, why advertise at all?

I'm guessing HP payed for a good chunk of the thing. The only hardware names mentioned by name are HP and Apple. Steve Jobs must be laughing.

Microsoft is merely pimping the worldwide economic crisis to it's own advantage with an ad about economizing. Why would they mention Windows? It's too expensive.
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post #61 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:34pm
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Ps That is why the european union banned them... Good on them.

It was not the EU. It was the UK Advertising Standards Authority.

You want to know something interesting kid? There was a grand total of NINETEEN people that complained about two of Apple's iPhone ads. I suspect that quite a few of them were people not unlike yourself.
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post #62 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:43pm
I can't believe people are getting this worked up over this commercial. Who cares if she's an actress or not, the point of the commercial (Mac pricing vs PC pricing) was made loud and clear.

The fact that people are still talking about it and getting their feathers all ruffled tells me that Microsoft hit the mark.
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post #63 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:45pm
It certainly doesn't take much to get some people riled up. Who. Cares. !?! If a consumer out there has less than $1000, they aren't buying a Mac laptop. Apple has made it clear they aren't interested in this consumer. If they were they would be pushing the white Macbook in ads and marketing.

The $999 Macbook doesn't appear ANYWHERE on Apple's site until you hit the "buy" button. The Macbook is advertised as "Starting at $1299" on Apple's site - Apple doesn't care about this type of consumer, or even making the consumer aware that this model exists. So why does anybody care that Microsoft wants them??????
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post #64 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post

Jesus Fucking Christ! Give it a rest!

There's no need for that. You give it a rest.
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post #65 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by italiankid View Post

I really didnt study the Ad like you mac heads do. I got better things to do...

Something tells me you really don't have better things to do.......
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post #66 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:53pm
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Advertisers go as far as being less than 100% genuinely honest! Details at 11.
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post #67 of 188
4/3/09 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by Gyokuro View Post

All things considered, I don't think Jesus had anything to do with this thread or the "news" story.

Jesus is everywhere. Except Republicans.
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post #68 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Good ad. If it has people talking about on either side of the issue it's effective and hence works.

Rubbish! Apple fanboys picking apart every single element of a Microsoft commercial ... followed by Windows fanboys defending it.... hardly makes for "effective".

Here's an old ad man's trick. Try taking out the Apple section of the ad. Does it really make much difference to the message? Sure there's a lot less for geeks and blogs to shout about but basically everything stays the same. Girl wants to buy 17 inch laptop for under a grand. Girl finds lots of choice of shiny laptops. Girl buys laptop for 700 bucks.

.... reading between the lines....

Apple doesn't even have a machine in the same ballpark... so what's the point? Most potential Mac buyers already know that ... so what's the point? HP, Dell and everyone get to thank Microsoft from turning their attention away from their more expensive models.

And the PC geeks praising Microsoft's ad fight against Apple... wouldn't be seen dead with Lauren's new laptop. Sorry this ad is just not effective on so many levels I cannot believe any self respecting agency would come up with it.
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post #69 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

The fact that people are still talking about it and getting their feathers all ruffled tells me that Microsoft hit the mark.

Or missed the mark entirely.

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post #70 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:09pm
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Or missed the mark entirely.


Yet you guys are still talking about, AI is still writing articles about it which brings even more attention to the ad. If it missed the mark, everyone sure is spending a lot of time looking for the errant arrow...
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post #71 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:12pm
Ok... I've got the Apple follow-up ad...

"Hi, I'm a $1500 hooker."
"And I'm a $25 hooker."

Apple: You get what you pay for.

The ad has all kinds of flaws, but I think the reason we're all so riled up is because deep down we're afraid it just might be effective. The good news is that Macs are making enough impact that Microsoft is worried.
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post #72 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:12pm
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I can't believe we get yet another ridiculous Microsoft bashing thread from AI. Like WTF? As if? Who cares?
Where's the more important sheet like the Woz getting booting off DWTS or the Queen of England receiving an iPod from the President of the United States?
Come on AI- you can do better.

I agree, leave it to MacDailyNews for the Microsoft bashing. Thats all they do best, and the best ain't good. That site is so childish in comparison to this site. I expect more from AppleInsider. MacDailyNews loves the drama. Hope this site ain't going towards that.
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post #73 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:14pm
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Yet you guys are still talking about, AI is still writing articles about it which brings even more attention to the ad. If it missed the mark, everyone sure is spending a lot of time looking for the errant arrow...

That's funny, I thought I was in an Apple-related forum discussing the flaws of an ad attempting to attack Apple on its pricing! Silly me. Let's talk about unicorns instead.

Bringing more attention to the ad? Yeah...I bet the vast majority of Microsoft's target market hangs out here at AI.

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4/3/09 at 8:15pm
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Good ad. If it has people talking about on either side of the issue it's effective and hence works.
It will be interesting what the follow-up ads will be. This is looking more and more like an all out assault from Miscrosoft after all the slaps Apple has gotten away with for years.
This will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.
I'm finding the Apple iPhone App ads to be kind of annoying actually.
I'm not really surprised though that anyone would be alarmed to think an ad would not use an actor.
There are some really stupid people around these days without common sense and easily manipulated. Look how we elect our leaders.

Well said. Microsoft for years hasn't poked at Apple. For years Apple poked at Microsoft. Now the tables have turned and it seems Microsoft is fighting back. With MS Win 7 coming out, its gonna get ugly for Mac. Apple will need NEW Ads, as the present ones are tired and dated and need a refresh.

Apple has its work cut out for them.
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post #75 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:19pm
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Dude I own Apple products... Ps... The ones I see for Rogers and AT&T don't show that its shortened. I see them all the time...

Ps That is why the european union banned them... Good on them.

You're an idiot if you think that any phone would operate that quickly. They're not trying to mislead anyone. The answer is simple: Air time for advertising on national television is extremely expensive. If you're advertising on television, you want to show as much of your product's value in as little time as possible. This is why the sequences are shortened. Didn't you see the one-second ad by Miller during the Super Bowl? It was one second of a black guy in a warehouse full of beer yelling, "High life!" Apple was simply trying to show off as many apps as possible in the short amount of time they had to work with. There's nothing wrong with this.

Get real.
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4/3/09 at 8:19pm
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Well said. Microsoft for years hasn't poked at Apple. For years Apple poked at Microsoft. Now the tables have turned and it seems Microsoft is fighting back. With MS Win 7 coming out, its gonna get ugly for Mac. Apple will need NEW Ads, as the present ones are tired and dated and need a refresh.

Apple has its work cut out for them.

APPLE WARS - EPISODE IV: ATTACK OF THE $699 LAPTOPS

I don't think Apple has anything to worry about. It's all about profit margin. PC manufacturers are going to have to sell oodles of netbooks and $699 laptops to make anywhere near a respectable profit.

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post #77 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:29pm
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You're an idiot if you think that any phone would operate that quickly. They're not trying to mislead anyone. The answer is simple: Air time for advertising on national television is extremely expensive. If you're advertising on television, you want to show as much of your product's value in as little time as possible. This is why the sequences are shortened. Didn't you see the one-second ad by Miller during the Super Bowl? It was one second of a black guy in a warehouse full of beer yelling, "High life!" Apple was simply trying to show off as many apps as possible in the short amount of time they had to work with. There's nothing wrong with this.

Get real.

Guess what?

You can't show off the iPhone in 30 seconds. So if Apple wants to show off the multi touch (one Ad), Apps (another Ad), Web (another Ad) etc etc... No need to do everything in 30 secs and say...

Do it SUPERFAST to boot... LOL Sorry I call bullshit... Its misleading.

Next time, Apple should not show an Ad with superfast downloads, interenet webpages loading SUPERFAST etc etc... the iPhone 3G is S.L.O.W.
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4/3/09 at 8:30pm
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APPLE WARS - EPISODE IV: ATTACK OF THE $699 LAPTOPS

I don't think Apple has anything to worry about. It's all about profit margin. PC manufacturers are going to have to sell oodles of netbooks and $699 laptops to make anywhere near a respectable profit.

Apple was once in the red. No one stays in the black forever.

Don't forget... Apple owns 9% market share. Microsoft 89% = 10x more

Windows 7 is gonna bring them back over 90% - guaranteed.
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post #79 of 188
4/3/09 at 8:32pm
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All things considered, I don't think Jesus had anything to do with this thread or the "news" story.

Take your conservative Christian bullshit elsewhere.
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4/3/09 at 8:33pm
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Guess what?

You can't show off the iPhone in 30 seconds. So if Apple wants to show off the multi touch (one Ad), Apps (another Ad), Web (another Ad) etc etc... No need to do everything in 30 secs and say...

Do it SUPERFAST to boot... LOL Sorry I call bullshit... Its misleading.

Next time, Apple should not show an Ad with superfast downloads, interenet webpages loading SUPERFAST etc etc... the iPhone 3G is S.L.O.W.

I don't remember them claiming that they were doing all of this ON the 3G network. They could have been on FiOS with WiFi for all you know.
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