Originally Posted by pixelcruncher
Ugh, this argument always sets me off, even if you are trying to slap down a troll like iLad.
Can you imagine if Microsoft dictated which apps could be installed on Windows systems? There would be a revolt. We would all be screaming about choice. You're saying Apple should have the right to ban Firefox from their laptops (it's THEIR device, Safari works better). ISPs should be able to say that you can't download any file over 50MB (it's THEIR service, there would be fewer slowdowns). Sony should be able to say you can't attach a non-Sony stereo up to your Sony TV (it's THEIR device, it creates a better end-user experieince). Car companies should be able to dictate that you can only replace your tires with a particular brand (it's THEIR car, you are safer if they make these decisions for you). That Microsoft should be able to ban Quicktime, because it duplicates the functionality of Windows Media Player.
There are so many things wrong with the argument that it's "X's right to dictate". You would be incredibly unhappy if every company actually dictated how their devices were used.
Back OT, I hope the Pre is better than the Storm. Competition is always good for the end-user.
So far, despite all the yammering about it, the iPhone is still a phone with extra abilities.
As such, it is limited in its power and storage, as all other smartphones currently are.
Because of that, it surely is Apple's right to limit what they think should be done with it, just as it's your right to not buy it because it doesn't do what you think it should, and buy something else that does.
Back in the beginning of the personal computer, something I remember very well, software companies worked very hard to limit the footprint of their programs, and coded them very tightly to get as much performance as possible out of them.
It was later MS's philosophy, as stated by Gates, publicly, in response to a question as to why his software always ran so slow, that their purpose was to add as many features as possible, and to let the hardware companies worry about how fast they could get them to run. MS is basically responsible for the concept of "bloatware".
Now, with phones running over networks, a thing unimaginable way back in 1976, when this all started, manufacturers have to worry about things out of their direct control. Also, people these days are so used to the expectation that they can do anything on their computers because of the power and storage capacities, they also expect the same from their smartphones.
Well, smartphones can't deliver yet.
I have often seen over the past few years, people struggling with their phones. I had some problems like that with my Treo 700p which also didn't multitask, well, the iPhone does multitask, but the Treo didn't. Still there were problems. I see people tell me how well their phones work with background apps, only to see then barely function. The owners often seem happy, because they aren't expecting anything else. it seems normal to them, but I'm wincing.
Apple's customers are less forgiving. What someone else would forgive, an Apple customer will complain about.
Apple is about the experience of getting the features it does offer, to work as well as they can possibly get them to. We can see the complaints with AT&T's network. People, instead of thinking that such a huge increase in traffic would take AT&T a while to recover from, and then giving them the benefit of time, have been complaining.
I'd rather my phone worked well, which it does, than get bogged down by multiple apps competing for the limited program RAM, and cpu cycles, that would be the case otherwise.
What will happen, is that people will download all these free and $0.99 apps that require background use without realizing that they do, and then find that their phone is slow, and jerky in its response. Then they will complain. And complain. It won't occur to most of them that it's their fault. No, that won't happen, because it's never the fault of a stupid user, only the company that makes the possibility available.
I think that Apple understands this, and is walking a fine line right now.
Just as they've given way in a number of areas when the time, or network capacity was right, such as song downloads over 3G, for example, they will give way on this as well, once they feel the phone can handle it, but not before.
That's the way it should be.
Remember, there are other phones out there. When you find one that meets your expectations in ALL ways, then go buy it. If you like everything about the iPhone, say, except for not having all these background apps, then find that phone that matches the iPhone in all those ways, AND also allows third party background apps.
Let us know how you decide.