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post #81 of 111
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so have you actually listened to any of the songs on "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" or did you just look up the lyrics to mock them? why would you dedicate that much time to something you dislike? and Soulja Boy? if you want to confuse a rapper, just ask them to spell something correctly....that will probably make their head explode. you probably like eminem too..

There you go, Toddj. Way to register on an Apple enthusiast site to defend the honor of U2 against illiterate rappers and, um, people who do not use their time wisely.

I vote that Apple Insider secede from Google.
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post #82 of 111
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Originally Posted by Mr Squid View Post

U2 has not been alternative since the 1990s. Now they just do bland pop rock. Long ago, however, they were brilliant.

Mr Squid - you are right on the money - 'alternative rock band U2' - alternative to what? A good rock band?
post #83 of 111
U2 being the worlds most business like rock band clearly should go with the worlds most business like smartphone...
post #84 of 111
"I Will Follow"... YES!!!

"Get Your Boots"... NO FRICKIN' WAY!

They just seem to be trying to be somebody else these days... Sell-outs, maybe?
What a shame... If I had a dollar for every once-great-band-that-now-sucks, I'd
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post #85 of 111
The really interesting question is: Why partner with RIM and not with Palm? Through the investment company Elevation Partners Bono is one of the biggest shareholders of Palm.
post #86 of 111
I think you all need to chill out. Why so much venom for a band's association with a box of wires?
post #87 of 111
Sorry guys, I never post to sites, but I went through this entire thread and couldn't believe no one mentioned "PopMart"!!!!

U2 has somehow gotten this halo as being above it all, but the truth is, they are just a bunch of guys who make music. half the band doesn't even have last names!

When they go out to do a tour they have a choice. Pay for all the sets, travel costs, etc. by themselves or get someone else to pay for it.

A few years back Kmart was desperately trying to stay afloat and so, rather than invest money to improve it's single largest asset (it's stores!) they threw money into a U2 tour, complete with giant launch ceremony in which Bono promised to change the perception of Kmart amongst the youth of America!!!

For those who don't know, Kmart went bankrupt then sold out to Sears.

My take on all of this is that RIM, though doing well financially, is desperate to break out of it's predominately corporate user base. They saw an opportunity to throw money at the problem to address a "younger" crowd, and they did. U2, happy to offload the costs of giving their fans what they want (and rake in the revenues while doing it!) jumped at the chance. The sound bite from Bono (no last name) about access tot he labs sounds an awful lot like how Bono was going to turn Kmart around.

It's the U2 "Reality Distortion Field"!!!

The bottom line is that fans will get cheap ($150) tickets to a very expensive show at the cost of having to be inundated with Blackberry hype, including a really cute during the show in-which The Edge (no last name) text's 3 lucky crowd-members, who get signed Blackberry's, in a cutting-edge black and red motif.

And then they'll go back to buying the phone they like, because media saturation has cut marketing effectiveness to 1% of what it was 10 years ago.

There. I am glad I got that out of my system. Thanks to both of you that bothered to read it.
post #88 of 111
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Originally Posted by sub View Post

The really interesting question is: Why partner with RIM and not with Palm? Through the investment company Elevation Partners Bono is one of the biggest shareholders of Palm.

He probably meant to and got mixed up.
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post #89 of 111
Ok.

See ya.
post #90 of 111
Maybe with the new iPhone 3.0 and expanded doc connector options - Apple could start sponsoring racing teams and put an iPhone into the car with a doc connector wired up to the telemetry in the car.

Or maybe Apple is building a module for the space station, yeah.
post #91 of 111
I think the real issue was that there is no "Special Edition U2 iPod Touch" or "Special Edition U2 iPhone". That's where the action is and probably where U2 wanted to be. The iPod classic is old technology and Bono probably wasn't interested in being associated with legacy technology.

Apple on the other hand feels their products are well entrenched enough that they don't need special editions any more.
post #92 of 111
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Originally Posted by sub View Post

The really interesting question is: Why partner with RIM and not with Palm? Through the investment company Elevation Partners Bono is one of the biggest shareholders of Palm.

RIM is rolling in the dough and Palm is struggling to survive.
post #93 of 111
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

I think the real issue was that there is no "Special Edition U2 iPod Touch" or "Special Edition U2 iPhone". That's where the action is and probably where U2 wanted to be. The iPod classic is old technology and Bono probably wasn't interested in being associated with legacy technology.

Apple on the other hand feels their products are well entrenched enough that they don't need special editions any more.

Most sensible explanation I've heard so far.
post #94 of 111
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

yeah they do. "product [red]" might have originally been a U2 initiative but it's far bigger then them now.

All U2 has done for Apple is make them produce the ugliest iPod colour scheme ever (the U2 iPod). It will be very interesting to see what they end up doing with Riim that is so cool that Apple refused to help them out with.

I predict that it will be nothing much at all.

Maybe lack of sales of the U2 iPod, was what made Apple say "Bye-Bye"?

Apple may be hard to work with, but we don't even know what it is or was that U2 was asking for - REALLY asking for. If I was to guess, it was a piece of the sales of iPods, or a BIGGER piece. Heck he might have asked Steve and company to pay any back taxes owed, or any he would be owing in the future.

I don't see it as a bad thing at all, that being, Apple not becoming a "Concert Sponsor" although it does make sense, but Apple would then be put in a bad place - who do they sponsors, who do they say "Sorry" to. With ALL of the musical acts that they sell records for this could have put them in a tough spot.

And at the FU%^$KING prices these ego maniac's are asking for ticket pricing - I say so long. It is only music after all, and NO ONE is worth the ticket money they are asking.

Hey live is fun, but in my opinion, some live acts SUCK unless your stoned out of your mind, and then, hell you aren't listening to the music that's playing live, your listening to the music in your head

Skip

PS Bye-=Bye Bono, no loss at all in my mind, but then again, I am NOT a Bono fan any ways.
post #95 of 111
come on everyone know that Bono is a little bitch. They would switch to any company that gives them the highest support and the highest profit. Apple has very little use for U2 at the moment and quite frankly the iPhone is more popular than U2 is. Anyway, I think it's really nice that RIM are finally going after the regular consumer although it's a little bit late in the game IMHO. I wish them all the best since the iPhone really need more competition than Palm.
post #96 of 111
who gives a shit what Bono thinks. U2 sucked 30 years ago and they still suck today. sure it has to be popular band, but at least they could pick one that's not complete and utter garbage. who's next... Disturbed lol. why associate yourself with such god-awful music.

why not pick up a cool band, like Radiohead or something worth listening to.
post #97 of 111
Here's Trent Reznor et al describing a new Nine Inch Nails app for the iPhone.

Location aware fan chat linked to the NIN tour schedule and with a pretty slick interface, streaming remixes, etc.

Apparently they didn't have any trouble getting a developer to make an app that did what they wanted, and they come off cooler for just using the tools at hand and being a little tech savvy, as opposed to needing to "partner" with Apple or anyone else.
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post #98 of 111
I wonder if the fact that Bono's financial company Elevation Partners owns 40% of Palm has anything to do with their decision to go with Blackberry? Good business decision?
post #99 of 111
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Originally Posted by jeffersonwilde View Post

I wonder if the fact that Bono's financial company Elevation Partners owns 40% of Palm has anything to do with their decision to go with Blackberry? Good business decision?

Merely a coincidence, I'm sure.

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post #100 of 111
[QUOTE=tdmelvin;1399449]U2? Christ, do they still tour? The last song I heard them play was "I still haven't found what I'm looking for".

you live in a cave?
post #101 of 111
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

RIM is rolling in the dough and Palm is struggling to survive.


I would hardly say they are rolling in dough! Checked the marker recently?
post #102 of 111
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Originally Posted by dpompi View Post

Sorry guys, I never post to sites, but I went through this entire thread and couldn't believe no one mentioned "PopMart"!!!!

U2 has somehow gotten this halo as being above it all, but the truth is, they are just a bunch of guys who make music. half the band doesn't even have last names!

When they go out to do a tour they have a choice. Pay for all the sets, travel costs, etc. by themselves or get someone else to pay for it.

A few years back Kmart was desperately trying to stay afloat and so, rather than invest money to improve it's single largest asset (it's stores!) they threw money into a U2 tour, complete with giant launch ceremony in which Bono promised to change the perception of Kmart amongst the youth of America!!!

For those who don't know, Kmart went bankrupt then sold out to Sears.

My take on all of this is that RIM, though doing well financially, is desperate to break out of it's predominately corporate user base. They saw an opportunity to throw money at the problem to address a "younger" crowd, and they did. U2, happy to offload the costs of giving their fans what they want (and rake in the revenues while doing it!) jumped at the chance. The sound bite from Bono (no last name) about access tot he labs sounds an awful lot like how Bono was going to turn Kmart around.

It's the U2 "Reality Distortion Field"!!!

The bottom line is that fans will get cheap ($150) tickets to a very expensive show at the cost of having to be inundated with Blackberry hype, including a really cute during the show in-which The Edge (no last name) text's 3 lucky crowd-members, who get signed Blackberry's, in a cutting-edge black and red motif.

And then they'll go back to buying the phone they like, because media saturation has cut marketing effectiveness to 1% of what it was 10 years ago.

There. I am glad I got that out of my system. Thanks to both of you that bothered to read it.

Excuse me but tickets for giants stadium, top tier were selling for over $250 with all the ticketmeister crap loaded on!
post #103 of 111
Apple never sponsored their prior tour, all they did was make a U2 inspired iPod.
post #104 of 111
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

My mom believes that Bono is a spy. Funny.


My wife's girlfriend's mother was hit on by Bono and lured backs stage with him. My wife's girlfriend now despises him for being such a pig. She screams obscenities whenever he is mentioned or U2's music plays.

Heehee, that bastard. I gotta love him for it!
post #105 of 111
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

WTF?

Why the heck would they need access to the labs? Is Bono a scientist now?

I predict this switch will be the last nail in U2's coffin. They are already ancient and mostly irrelevant. Switching from the cool brand to the un-cool brand is all it will take to make anyone younger than 50 or so think twice about buying their albums.


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Wow, what a bunch of douches post here!
If we rounded up all you self-centered, slack jawed, pasty f*cks and erased all traces of your existence, it would be a net benefit to humankind. Bono on the other hand, aside from what you think of him as a musician (damm good one), has used his fame to promote many worthy causes. I didn't realize he pressured Apple to do the product (Red) iPods. That's cool. Fcuk all you all bitches!
post #106 of 111
I wonder if Bono's blackberry app will be better than Trent Reznor's iPhone app.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2009...reznor-wa.html
post #107 of 111
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Originally Posted by quinney View Post

I wonder if Bono's blackberry app will be better than Trent Reznor's iPhone app.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2009...reznor-wa.html

Already linked to that a few posts up.
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post #108 of 111
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Originally Posted by Spiffy1 View Post

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Wow, what a bunch of douches post here!
If we rounded up all you self-centered, slack jawed, pasty f*cks and erased all traces of your existence, it would be a net benefit to humankind. Bono on the other hand, aside from what you think of him as a musician (damm good one), has used his fame to promote many worthy causes. I didn't realize he pressured Apple to do the product (Red) iPods. That's cool. Fcuk all you all bitches!

Based on this post of yours, I'd say that you're the douchbag.
post #109 of 111
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Originally Posted by addabox View Post

Already linked to that a few posts up.

Oops. Missed it skimming past a bunch of junk posts.

I like your comment too. I would like to know what U2 wanted to do that is so
above and beyond what NIN did (which sounds pretty cool for their fans). It
gives me the impression that U2 (Bono) just wanted to be treated like privileged
characters.
post #110 of 111
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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Excuse me but tickets for giants stadium, top tier were selling for over $250 with all the ticketmeister crap loaded on!

That's pathetic. Too bad you didn't see them in their prime for roughly $25.

Hell, I saw Van Halen [Hagar], The Scorpions, Metallica [And Justice for All], Dokken and Kingdome Come all for $35 at The Monsters of Rock in 1988.

That was money well spent.
post #111 of 111
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Originally Posted by quinney View Post

Oops. Missed it skimming past a bunch of junk posts.

No worries! I'm just rarely first out of the gate with relevant news!

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like your comment too. I would like to know what U2 wanted to do that is so
above and beyond what NIN did (which sounds pretty cool for their fans). It
gives me the impression that U2 (Bono) just wanted to be treated like privileged
characters.

Yep. I guess we'll see what RIM and U2 have cooked up, but if I had to guess I would say something much like NIN is doing. And even if it involves something new and different, I'm willing to bet it won't be anything that a developer couldn't have done, once someone decided that such functionality was called for.

This talk of getting "access to the labs" just strikes me as foolish. Cool programmers don't have to go begging for special privileges, they use the available tools and make cool stuff.

It's sort of like a musician making a big deal out of his custom, just-for-him-special-edition-check-out-the-paint-job guitar and coming off like kind of a tool, when a real musician is tearing it up on his beat to shit old axe.
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